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Ron: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast.

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Ron: I'm Ron.

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Ron: And I'm Dave.

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Ron: Just the two of us tonight, and I'm going to be honest with you, I forgot we were supposed to record this week.

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Ron: So, everybody, thank Dave for us having an episode.

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Ron: Otherwise, we would have been incognito, been silent, been whatever, and had nothing going out this week.

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Ron: Have a live panic Friday night.

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Ron: Well, it would have happened.

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Ron: Like, normally I'm on top of these things, but for some reason, like, everything that's been going on has just gotten away from me.

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Ron: It's been a busy week.

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Ron: It's been a busy couple weeks.

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Ron: And I think it's thrown me, too, because we usually record it on weekends, like the last few times.

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Ron: Yeah, to get the Reggie situation going.

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Ron: Right.

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Ron: And so now we're back to during the week, and it just, like, the weekends have been busy, so I haven't thought about recording, and it just blew right over my mind.

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Ron: But we're here.

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Ron: But we're here.

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Ron: We've got a couple things to talk about.

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Ron: I don't know how long we're going to be here today because, well, I didn't have much time to prepare to be on last-minute things.

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Ron: But anyway, Dave, welcome back to my humble home.

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Dave: Thank you, sir.

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Ron: So, in honor of Tommy being gone, I wanted to talk about something that is kind of, I guess, maybe near and dear to him.

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Ron: I'm not sure compared to...

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Dave: I think he's much more fan than both of us are.

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Ron: Right.

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Ron: But last week was the final Reno Air Races.

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Ron: Apparently, they're looking for a new place to hold them in, from what Wikipedia says, because I know nothing more than Wikipedia told me.

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Ron: They're looking for a new place to hold them in 2025.

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Dave: Right.

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Dave: So, I guess 2024 is going to be a year off,

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Ron: maybe giving them time to figure stuff out, and hopefully in 2025 they will be able to announce a new place to have them, as opposed to Stead Airport in Reno, Nevada, which I guess has been there for almost 70 years.

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Ron: It's been there a long time.

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Ron: Long time.

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Ron: They ended on a very sad note this year.

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Ron: They had two airplanes crash and kill the pilots upon landing, when they were trying to land.

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Ron: Yeah, it wasn't during the race.

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Ron: No.

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Ron: So, I mean, that's apparently part of air racing, because it happens semi-often.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Dave: Unfortunately, they tear up a bunch of heavy iron.

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Ron: I wish Tommy was here to fill in all the blanks,

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Ron: because that's about all I know about them.

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Ron: Right.

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Ron: Like, when you look at some of the things on Wikipedia, a lot of the names that I don't associate with real things, like real airplanes, are real airplanes that people have modeled airplanes off of.

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Ron: Yeah.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Ron: Strega.

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Ron: There's a few other ones, and I don't remember what else.

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Ron: Oh, my God.

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Dave: Apparently, it was during the gold T6 race, so there's a couple less Texans in the world.

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Ron: Do you remember what crashed at Oshkosh?

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Dave: Texan.

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Ron: Was that a Texan, too?

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Ron: Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Ron: That's not a good time to be a Texan pilot.

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Ron: So let me see here.

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Ron: What's next?

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Ron: I mean, do you have anything else on that?

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Ron: I don't have anything.

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Dave: I've been so busy this week, I knew there was a crash, but I didn't even really know anything about it.

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Ron: Well, I'm sure we're just having people just glued to their earpieces trying to listen to what we're going to talk about next.

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Ron: So next up,

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Ron: I guess one of the good things about waiting so late to record is that today, which is the day before this is going out, eFlight announced they are re-releasing the Viper 70mm EDF jet.

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Dave: An updated version.

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Ron: So they have changed a couple things on it.

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Ron: It's got beefier landing gear with softer tires.

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Dave: That's going to be a big improvement because I did notice that on the one I have that it's pretty stiff gear and low-quality tires.

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Ron: Yeah, so hopefully this will be nicer.

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Ron: And it looks like it has the oleo struts on it, so they're going to have a little bit of give to them.

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Dave: Should handle rough field much better.

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Ron: Or just landings in general.

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Ron: They should look a little nicer when you touch down.

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Ron: Man.

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Ron: Having a little bit of shock absorber.

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Ron: Not quite so pogo-y.

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Ron: Right.

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Ron: Then also they updated the electronics.

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Ron: Which?

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Ron: Which is normal.

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Ron: I mean, everything they have now has got the...

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Ron: AS3X and telemetry.

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Ron: Yeah.

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Ron: Flaps still, electric retracts.

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Ron: What I like, though, new color scheme.

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Ron: The new color scheme is pretty sharp.

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Ron: Looks good.

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Ron: It's got some orange in it.

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Ron: Somebody there must like orange because the MB339 has a lot of orange on it.

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Ron: But the price did not go up.

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Ron: Exactly the same.

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Ron: $349.99.

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Ron: Which actually makes me think about getting one of these.

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Ron: Like, the only thing that's stopping me at this point is I don't have a battery.

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Ron: Yeah, me neither.

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Ron: I've got the plane.

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Ron: No battery.

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Ron: See, well, you have the plane.

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Ron: You're a step out of I am.

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Ron: But had I had that right size battery...

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Ron: Because those are over $100 for a battery.

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Ron: 25% of the cost of the airplane.

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Dave: I was looking like $60, $75 for a battery.

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Dave: I was going to borrow one from Reggie and see how this thing is before.

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Ron: Well, you should do that before fall hits.

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Ron: Yeah, we're not in fall yet.

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Dave: But before...

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Ron: No, are we?

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Ron: And we're close.

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Ron: I was going to say, maybe that's this weekend anyway.

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Ron: Time is getting away from me.

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Dave: Time change is coming up here real soon.

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Ron: That's in November, right?

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Ron: I thought that was first November.

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Ron: We have some stuff coming up.

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Ron: We still have Halloween and all that stuff.

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Ron: But anyway, E-Flight came out with a new airplane.

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Ron: It's pretty cool.

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Ron: It's one that I might actually think about getting.

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Dave: We'll see how the fall and winter goes.

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Ron: Yeah.

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Dave: It'd be nice if it was grass field capable.

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Dave: That would be...

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Ron: Yeah, I don't know how those are.

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Ron: I've never flown one of them.

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Dave: Well, we'll find out when I get a battery.

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Dave: I would think you'd be okay.

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Dave: I've flown 70mm off grass before.

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Dave: It should work.

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Dave: Because there's nothing extra in it.

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Dave: It's pretty light.

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Ron: Yeah.

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Ron: Good flying airplanes, from what I hear.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Dave: Okay.

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Dave: Kind of L-39 looking.

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Dave: It's due for a paint job in my book.

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Ron: You don't like the new paint?

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Dave: No, I like the new one.

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Dave: Just the older one that I've got.

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Dave: Yeah, it's going to get an L-39 paint job.

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Ron: Nothing wrong with that.

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Ron: Because, you know, I can't leave anything alone.

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Ron: I know.

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Ron: You don't like to do that very much.

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Ron: I prefer to just leave stuff and not spend the extra time on it.

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Dave: And I can make it gray to make time even.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Dave: Completely gray to where you can't see top or bottom or anything.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Ron: Okay.

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Ron: Well, we also have some good news.

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Ron: Well, is it good?

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Ron: I don't know if it's good news.

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Ron: It's good news.

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Ron: Good news.

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Ron: So, the FAA has pushed out remote ID, six-month extension.

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Ron: So, according to the FAA, drone pilots who are unable to comply with the broadcast requirement of the remote ID rule will now have until March 16, 2024, to equip their aircraft.

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Ron: Pretty much all that's saying is we're just giving you another six months to get everything.

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Dave: Yeah, it got pushed out a year.

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Dave: Now, they're pushing out another six months.

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Ron: So, I've heard they've been having issues with the FAA actually getting all the free as approved.

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Dave: Yeah, I'm sure they're swamped with them.

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Ron: Well, they should be.

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Ron: But, they should just approve more a lot easier and be done with it.

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Ron: And then, also, remote ID modules are still not available.

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Ron: Like, I ordered mine from Horizon.

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Ron: And I know Horizon, if you want to, you can go out and look on Spectrum's website and on Facebook.

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Ron: They kind of had a little announcement about it.

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Ron: But, they were having some issues, I guess, with the website through the FAA.

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Ron: So, they are no longer, or they're not shipping the Sky ID modules out yet.

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Dave: Yeah, I knew there was some sort of problem with them.

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Dave: It's just that I think where you, because when you get it, each one has its own little

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Ron: ID number on it.

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Ron: And that number has to be registered with the FAA.

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Ron: Which makes sense.

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Ron: Otherwise, how do they know whose it is?

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Ron: Yeah, they have no idea.

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Ron: And I guess there's a problem with the FAA's website on.

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Ron: Gee, a federal government website with issues?

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Ron: Really?

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Ron: There's an issue with having that live.

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Ron: So, it's not working yet.

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Ron: And then they also said, once all goes live, there will be updates for our transmitters and stuff in order to properly use all the extra stuff.

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Ron: All the extra features that are available.

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Ron: That's coming on that.

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Ron: So, I guess, stay tuned, and we'll see what happens next.

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Ron: I don't know.

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Dave: I don't know.

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Dave: I see a lot of outlaw RC.

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Ron: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how to...

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Dave: There's going to be a bunch of 60 and 70-year-old men breaking federal laws, is what I see.

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Ron: Well, so here's the thing.

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Ron: Like, I fly at two sites that will most likely become free.

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Ron: I'm hoping...

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Ron: One's questionable.

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Ron: One is questionable.

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Ron: But I'm hoping, like, our home field will hopefully get pushed through.

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Ron: Because there's other fields that are flying in actual airports, too.

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Ron: Right.

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Ron: So, there has to be some sort of...

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Ron: What's what I'm looking for?

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Dave: Some sort of exemption or some sort of rule to where they can all work together nicely.

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Ron: I mean, the airport we fly at is...

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Ron: Technically, it's an airport.

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Ron: It's a grass strip.

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Ron: It's a privately owned grass strip.

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Ron: Uncontrolled airport.

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Ron: That is...

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Ron: I mean, there's not a lot of traffic.

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Ron: No.

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Ron: I mean, how often do you think they take off and land on that?

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Ron: Maybe...

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Ron: A couple times a month.

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Ron: Yeah.

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Ron: If that.

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Ron: I mean, when we're out there in the evenings and stuff, where you think a lot of people would be flying, there's no movement.

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Ron: I mean, every now and then you hear...

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Dave: Every now and then you hear an ultralight running.

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Dave: Right.

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Dave: But they never take off, so I guess they just play with their motors a lot.

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Ron: So, I don't know.

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Ron: I mean, the life flight is close, and I can see that being an issue.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Ron: And they're there for fuel, and then they're gone.

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Ron: Yeah.

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Ron: So, I mean, it's not like they stay there a long time either.

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Ron: So, I mean, it's...

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Ron: Holmes Airport is where we fly.

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Ron: Sanguine County...

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Ron: Or no, Sanguine Valley RC Flyers.

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Ron: And we'll...

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Ron: I mean, I guess we'll just see.

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Ron: Like, I haven't heard any updates or anything on whether or not we've been denied, approved, or anything like that.

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Dave: Yeah, we haven't heard peep one about anything.

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Dave: Okay.

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Ron: And so, I'm assuming then that it's not approved, which would make sense, but I don't know, like, if it was sent back and denied.

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Ron: Or not even sent in.

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Ron: Or still just waiting on the first round.

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Dave: You can hold Lee and find out.

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Dave: Might need to.

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Ron: And then Eli Field, the same way, they have not gotten anything back, yay or nay.

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Ron: It's still just in limbo.

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Ron: Which...

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Ron: Yep.

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Dave: What are you going to do?

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Dave: These things take time.

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Dave: It's the federal government.

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Dave: It moves its...

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Dave: Be the government.

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Ron: Which is very slow.

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Ron: But from what I understand, like, the remote ID module, there's nothing to it.

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Ron: Like, for the basic requirements, it just broadcasts that number.

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Ron: And just anybody that's listening or wants to see who's flying would have to have something open.

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Dave: They'd have to be able to figure out what that number is.

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Ron: Yeah.

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Ron: So, I mean, I'm not...

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Ron: I don't know.

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Ron: I'm not an expert on it, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be that big of a deal.

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Ron: Even if you're complying completely with the rules.

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Ron: Like, I'm not all that concerned about it.

00:11:41.870 --> 00:11:47.730
Ron: I don't like the extra money that we have to spend for it, but I think we're going to have enough added benefits to where...

00:11:49.830 --> 00:11:58.210
Ron: I mean, it kind of seems to me like the remote ID requirement is going to become second nature once it's built into all the different planes and stuff.

00:11:58.230 --> 00:12:01.350
Dave: It's going to be built into the drones is what it's going to be built into.

00:12:01.710 --> 00:12:03.310
Ron: Yeah, and it's not going to be that big of a deal.

00:12:03.430 --> 00:12:04.510
Dave: We're just casualties.

00:12:05.030 --> 00:12:05.530
Ron: Yeah, exactly.

00:12:06.150 --> 00:12:07.590
Ron: Like, to me, the sky is not falling yet.

00:12:07.730 --> 00:12:09.550
Ron: Like, I'm not concerned about this at all.

00:12:10.930 --> 00:12:11.370
Ron: Should I be?

00:12:11.590 --> 00:12:11.910
Ron: Maybe.

00:12:12.090 --> 00:12:12.510
Ron: I don't know.

00:12:12.670 --> 00:12:12.970
Ron: Are you?

00:12:13.390 --> 00:12:14.930
Dave: They don't have enough people to enforce it.

00:12:14.990 --> 00:12:15.770
Dave: It's not bothering me.

00:12:17.150 --> 00:12:19.390
Ron: So, I think that tells us where you land on that.

00:12:20.530 --> 00:12:22.470
Ron: But anyway, so yeah, six months extension.

00:12:23.050 --> 00:12:27.530
Ron: We'll talk about it as it gets closer, or we won't, and it'll just go into effect, and we'll all be fine anyway.

00:12:28.030 --> 00:12:28.830
Ron: We'll get through it.

00:12:28.870 --> 00:12:30.350
Ron: I'm hoping it's not killing the hobby.

00:12:30.490 --> 00:12:31.250
Ron: It shouldn't be...

00:12:31.250 --> 00:12:35.070
Dave: The sky was falling in back in the 90s when they made everything go narrow band with the FCC.

00:12:35.870 --> 00:12:37.210
Dave: So, we got through that.

00:12:37.390 --> 00:12:38.190
Dave: We'll get through this.

00:12:38.370 --> 00:12:49.010
Ron: Yeah, I think it's kind of one of those things that there's always an issue to fight, but it's not yet been the hill I want to die on.

00:12:49.510 --> 00:12:50.170
Ron: Does that make sense?

00:12:50.730 --> 00:12:52.970
Ron: Like, I mean, things change.

00:12:54.130 --> 00:12:57.270
Ron: Everything changes, and it doesn't seem to be getting that much worse to me.

00:12:57.470 --> 00:12:59.750
Dave: You used to have an FCC license to fly.

00:13:00.430 --> 00:13:04.710
Dave: You had to pass your basic ham radio license.

00:13:04.930 --> 00:13:05.790
Dave: I didn't know that, really.

00:13:05.990 --> 00:13:06.230
Dave: Yeah.

00:13:06.790 --> 00:13:08.170
Ron: Well, see, things are better then.

00:13:08.410 --> 00:13:09.270
Dave: Yeah, it got better.

00:13:09.940 --> 00:13:11.160
Dave: At least in that regard.

00:13:12.620 --> 00:13:15.260
Dave: Oh, anything else you want to say on that?

00:13:16.060 --> 00:13:17.760
Dave: Like I said, you know where I stand, so.

00:13:18.940 --> 00:13:20.380
Ron: Well, like I said, I got mine in order.

00:13:20.580 --> 00:13:24.140
Ron: I actually am interested to play with it, see how it works.

00:13:24.140 --> 00:13:25.920
Ron: I don't think the sky is falling.

00:13:26.100 --> 00:13:26.920
Ron: I think we'll all be happy.

00:13:27.100 --> 00:13:27.540
Ron: We'll move on.

00:13:27.620 --> 00:13:28.000
Ron: We'll be good.

00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:32.240
Dave: I will probably grab one at some point to have in my inventory.

00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:35.660
Dave: That way, if we go do a demo or somewhere, we can do it legally.

00:13:35.980 --> 00:13:36.340
Ron: Yeah.

00:13:36.340 --> 00:13:38.140
Dave: But, yeah, that's not happening.

00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:40.480
Ron: I'd order it now when it's $70 as opposed to $100.

00:13:40.900 --> 00:13:41.820
Ron: I'm waiting until it's $30.

00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:43.880
Ron: You'll probably be waiting a long time.

00:13:44.180 --> 00:13:50.940
Ron: I don't think it's going to be going, well, at least the Spectrum one is not, I don't think, going to be going down past $70.

00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:57.560
Dave: No, but there'll be ones out there that are just base models stripped down basic requirements to meet the law.

00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:00.580
Dave: And those, I'm sure, will be down there.

00:14:00.580 --> 00:14:01.840
Dave: Yeah, a lot cheaper.

00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:07.560
Ron: Okay, so do we want to talk about what we did already or what's coming up?

00:14:07.700 --> 00:14:08.680
Ron: Let's do what's coming up.

00:14:08.680 --> 00:14:09.800
Dave: Let's do what's coming up, yeah.

00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:14.660
Ron: So this weekend at Eli Field is the scale event, but actually I guess it depends.

00:14:14.900 --> 00:14:21.600
Ron: So when this comes out tomorrow, which is Friday, is the second day of the flying event, and then Saturday is the final day.

00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.640
Ron: If you listen to this early enough, come on out and join us.

00:14:24.700 --> 00:14:26.740
Ron: If not, well, I hope we had a good time.

00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:27.980
Ron: I hope you do.

00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:29.920
Ron: I hope I have a good time.

00:14:29.920 --> 00:14:30.740
Ron: I forgot you're not going.

00:14:34.220 --> 00:14:36.160
Ron: So that's pretty much it.

00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.720
Ron: We can't report on anything we don't know about.

00:14:38.900 --> 00:14:39.380
Ron: Not yet.

00:14:39.380 --> 00:14:44.020
Ron: But like I said, I'm taking time off of work tomorrow going over there.

00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:45.760
Ron: But I've got to get everything ready.

00:14:45.920 --> 00:14:47.620
Ron: Like I don't have that much that's scale.

00:14:47.800 --> 00:14:49.700
Ron: Like that was the other thing that like really concerned me.

00:14:50.380 --> 00:14:51.720
Ron: Scale event sounds cool.

00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:54.020
Ron: And then you're like, what do I have that's scale?

00:14:54.060 --> 00:14:56.580
Ron: Like I don't fly a lot of scale stuff.

00:14:56.700 --> 00:14:57.720
Ron: Come shop in Dave's Garage.

00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:59.760
Ron: Oh, but I don't fly other people's airplanes either.

00:15:00.140 --> 00:15:02.280
Ron: So that becomes problematic.

00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:03.220
Ron: I can take a credit card.

00:15:04.820 --> 00:15:06.470
Ron: Can you now?

00:15:07.990 --> 00:15:19.580
Ron: So I think the only things I'm taking is I've got, yeah, I think the only two airplanes I'm taking is I've got that Carbon Z Yak, which is just the foamy yak.

00:15:19.580 --> 00:15:23.340
Ron: And then the probably the, what is that?

00:15:23.420 --> 00:15:24.220
Ron: One point two meter.

00:15:26.700 --> 00:15:27.660
Ron: Oh, it's right there.

00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:28.580
Ron: What is that?

00:15:28.740 --> 00:15:28.960
Ron: The.

00:15:31.100 --> 00:15:33.160
Dave: All I'm seeing is your Sky Master.

00:15:33.420 --> 00:15:34.580
Ron: No, the otter.

00:15:35.310 --> 00:15:36.590
Ron: Oh, the twin otter.

00:15:36.690 --> 00:15:36.990
Ron: Twin otter.

00:15:36.990 --> 00:15:41.290
Ron: I don't have my glasses on because I can't read up close with my glasses on yet.

00:15:41.410 --> 00:15:42.510
Ron: I can't see without them.

00:15:42.710 --> 00:15:42.830
Dave: Yeah.

00:15:42.930 --> 00:15:44.130
Dave: I'm due for a new set of glasses.

00:15:44.890 --> 00:15:46.190
Ron: Last weekend about killed me.

00:15:46.550 --> 00:15:47.450
Dave: Sucks getting old.

00:15:48.430 --> 00:15:49.690
Ron: See, I'm just going to be taking those two.

00:15:49.830 --> 00:15:52.570
Ron: I think it'll just be a fun little laid back event.

00:15:52.590 --> 00:15:54.250
Ron: There's no pressure for anything.

00:15:54.270 --> 00:15:57.410
Ron: Just a bunch of guys getting together and flying toy airplanes.

00:15:57.750 --> 00:15:57.950
Dave: Yeah.

00:15:58.070 --> 00:15:58.550
Dave: That sounds great.

00:15:58.830 --> 00:15:59.550
Dave: Looking forward to it.

00:15:59.730 --> 00:16:01.210
Dave: I'm just behind stuff at home.

00:16:01.330 --> 00:16:03.200
Dave: I got to stay home this weekend.

00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:15.220
Ron: Oh, I'm behind at stuff or on stuff at home too, but that's getting put off for another week because after this, I think I'm pretty much done for the year because I don't think there's any flying events really that I know of.

00:16:15.420 --> 00:16:15.560
Ron: No.

00:16:16.160 --> 00:16:23.860
Ron: Meetings are now being moved into indoors because of time and darkness and cold.

00:16:24.820 --> 00:16:24.980
Dave: Yeah.

00:16:25.280 --> 00:16:28.540
Dave: You'll be looking at the New Year's Day flies before soon, before you know it.

00:16:28.820 --> 00:16:28.980
Ron: Yeah.

00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:29.860
Ron/Dave: Wow.

00:16:30.660 --> 00:16:32.320
Ron: Time definitely gets away from you.

00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:35.620
Ron: But, let's talk about last weekend.

00:16:35.620 --> 00:16:36.680
Ron: We had a little bit of fun.

00:16:36.800 --> 00:16:38.360
Ron: We went up to Streeter for their fly-in.

00:16:38.940 --> 00:16:39.860
Ron: Great fly-in.

00:16:40.060 --> 00:16:47.080
Ron: This is a yearly thing and this is the first time that I actually have stayed with you and Daniel in your camper.

00:16:47.420 --> 00:16:47.900
Dave: Oh, yeah.

00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:48.220
Dave: Yeah.

00:16:48.300 --> 00:16:49.240
Dave: You got to sleep with Fred.

00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:51.400
Ron: Yeah.

00:16:51.520 --> 00:16:52.940
Ron: So, you had your dog up there.

00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:54.360
Ron: Daniel had his dog up there.

00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:54.980
Ron: Stella, right?

00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:55.680
Ron: Stella, yeah.

00:16:55.800 --> 00:17:01.680
Ron: And if I woke up once, I woke up 10 times during the night to having dogs licking me in the face.

00:17:02.420 --> 00:17:02.820
Dave: Wonderful.

00:17:02.820 --> 00:17:04.680
Ron: It had to be Stella because Fred doesn't do that.

00:17:04.800 --> 00:17:05.780
Ron: No, it was definitely Stella.

00:17:06.520 --> 00:17:07.560
Ron: But, no, it was a good time.

00:17:07.560 --> 00:17:09.260
Ron: So, I went up Friday after work.

00:17:10.220 --> 00:17:12.040
Ron: You guys were a little bit behind me.

00:17:12.700 --> 00:17:15.560
Ron: I got an hour start before you did.

00:17:15.700 --> 00:17:17.900
Ron: So, I was an hour ahead of you before or when I left.

00:17:18.280 --> 00:17:22.140
Ron: And you guys ended up showing up about three hours after I did.

00:17:22.520 --> 00:17:23.520
Dave: Yeah, yeah.

00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:26.760
Dave: It was a great weekend for the event.

00:17:26.760 --> 00:17:28.640
Dave: It was not a great weekend for me.

00:17:29.520 --> 00:17:32.080
Ron: Well, this is kind of of your own doing.

00:17:32.360 --> 00:17:34.100
Ron: Like, I don't want to put the blame on anything.

00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:34.760
Ron: But you, okay.

00:17:34.780 --> 00:17:36.360
Ron: So, you had a flat tire on the way there.

00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:37.000
Dave: Yeah.

00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:38.280
Dave: I got eight miles from the event.

00:17:38.320 --> 00:17:39.400
Dave: My trailer blows a tire.

00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.020
Dave: So, you were pushing your luck.

00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:43.360
Dave: You knew the tires were bad.

00:17:43.360 --> 00:17:45.160
Dave: You were hoping to get through the end of the year, right?

00:17:45.360 --> 00:17:47.200
Dave: Actually, the tires are in good shape.

00:17:47.340 --> 00:17:47.960
Dave: They're not checked.

00:17:48.080 --> 00:17:48.740
Dave: They're not cracked.

00:17:48.900 --> 00:17:50.160
Dave: But they are timed out.

00:17:50.580 --> 00:17:53.320
Dave: I've had the trailer for six years and they were on it when I bought it.

00:17:53.540 --> 00:17:53.760
Ron: Okay.

00:17:53.760 --> 00:17:55.080
Dave: So, they're timed out.

00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:56.240
Dave: But they are not dry rotted.

00:17:56.380 --> 00:17:56.980
Dave: They're not cracked.

00:17:57.880 --> 00:17:58.120
Dave: Oh.

00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:00.560
Dave: But apparently, the tread falls off.

00:18:02.710 --> 00:18:03.650
Dave: That's not funny.

00:18:05.030 --> 00:18:05.850
Ron: It's a little bit.

00:18:06.050 --> 00:18:09.630
Ron: Well, I, so I started to, okay, hold on.

00:18:09.790 --> 00:18:11.410
Ron: I started to get concerned.

00:18:11.570 --> 00:18:12.850
Ron: I got a little excited and got ahead of myself.

00:18:13.010 --> 00:18:16.310
Ron: I started to get concerned because it's, like, almost dark.

00:18:17.210 --> 00:18:22.890
Ron: And, okay, so when I got up there, as I was pulling in, you guys obviously weren't there yet.

00:18:22.890 --> 00:18:28.060
Ron: It was still, I don't remember what, almost six o'clock, a little bit before six o'clock when I got there.

00:18:29.020 --> 00:18:37.700
Ron: And as I was pulling in and, you know, getting out, Brian was leaving and said, hey, we're all going up to dinner up in, in Leonor.

00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:39.460
Ron: Come with us.

00:18:39.700 --> 00:18:41.960
Ron: So, I ended up going up there with them and stuff.

00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:43.400
Ron: And we had dinner and all that kind of stuff.

00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.880
Ron: And then went through the hobby shop because it was open late.

00:18:47.190 --> 00:18:49.690
Ron: So, I was going through trying to find some stuff that I wanted to buy.

00:18:49.770 --> 00:18:50.870
Dave: Which, by the way, I didn't buy anything.

00:18:51.070 --> 00:18:52.250
Dave: I noticed that.

00:18:52.430 --> 00:18:52.990
Ron: That was weird.

00:18:52.990 --> 00:18:55.550
Ron: Like, I fully intended on doing it, but I just didn't.

00:18:55.590 --> 00:18:57.070
Dave: Brian's lost his touch about pulling your wallet.

00:18:58.190 --> 00:18:59.530
Ron: He'll be getting some soon.

00:18:59.950 --> 00:19:05.550
Ron: But, anyway, so after that, you know, I loitered around there for a while and hung out and stuff.

00:19:05.550 --> 00:19:08.550
Ron: And then went back to the flying field because it was dark by that time.

00:19:08.570 --> 00:19:11.750
Dave: Yeah, and I called you from Bloomington, which is a little over an hour away.

00:19:11.950 --> 00:19:13.810
Ron: Right, which I was still at dinner.

00:19:13.930 --> 00:19:16.750
Ron: I was still at Brian's shop, I think, or something when I talked to you.

00:19:16.790 --> 00:19:17.370
Ron: You're in Leonor.

00:19:17.430 --> 00:19:18.130
Ron: I don't know where you were.

00:19:18.310 --> 00:19:18.630
Ron: Right.

00:19:18.630 --> 00:19:22.430
Ron: Right, so I knew, like, about how long it would be until you got there.

00:19:23.330 --> 00:19:24.830
Ron: And that time passed.

00:19:25.290 --> 00:19:27.650
Ron: By the time I was back out of the field, that time passed.

00:19:27.810 --> 00:19:30.590
Ron: And then I was like, hold on, I was just Bloomington.

00:19:30.690 --> 00:19:33.590
Ron: That should have been, you know, 45 minutes or so from here.

00:19:33.590 --> 00:19:36.290
Ron: And it's been an hour and 15 or so.

00:19:36.690 --> 00:19:38.050
Ron: So I tried to call you.

00:19:39.010 --> 00:19:39.450
Ron: Nothing.

00:19:39.790 --> 00:19:41.690
Ron: Like, it just rang and went to voicemail.

00:19:41.790 --> 00:19:42.990
Ron: Because I left my phone in the truck.

00:19:43.110 --> 00:19:46.070
Ron: So then I called Daniel, and he didn't answer.

00:19:46.830 --> 00:19:47.670
Ron: Then I'm like, oh.

00:19:47.670 --> 00:19:49.170
Dave: Because it comes up odd.

00:19:50.150 --> 00:19:52.770
Ron: Yeah, so I forgot about that.

00:19:53.070 --> 00:19:55.550
Ron: Many, many years ago, so I'm a Verizon customer.

00:19:55.710 --> 00:19:59.220
Ron: Many years ago, this has been probably 15 years ago.

00:19:59.820 --> 00:20:04.800
Ron: So they had a thing where apparently, and I forgot all about this, you can change what it said when you call somebody.

00:20:05.060 --> 00:20:10.600
Ron: And I didn't want my name popping up to all the people I called, so I just changed it to a call for you.

00:20:11.080 --> 00:20:14.380
Ron: I mean, this goes all the way back to when we had the hobby shop here in town.

00:20:14.660 --> 00:20:15.000
Ron: Right.

00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:20.700
Ron: Because they would bring that up to me that whenever it came up, that's what their caller ID said.

00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.180
Ron: So it's been how long that's been.

00:20:23.320 --> 00:20:24.700
Ron: I mean, like I said, it's been quite a while.

00:20:25.300 --> 00:20:28.880
Ron: And anyway, so he didn't answer it because apparently he didn't have any programmed into his phone.

00:20:29.540 --> 00:20:30.900
Ron: So then I texted you.

00:20:31.420 --> 00:20:32.220
Ron: Or no, I'm sorry.

00:20:32.360 --> 00:20:35.020
Ron: I called my wife and talked to her for probably 10 or 15 minutes.

00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:36.720
Ron: Then I texted you.

00:20:37.660 --> 00:20:38.020
Ron: Nothing.

00:20:38.660 --> 00:20:39.680
Ron: Then I texted Daniel.

00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:41.080
Ron: Nothing.

00:20:41.460 --> 00:20:43.020
Ron: So I'm really starting to get concerned.

00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.540
Ron: And then finally, Daniel called and said, hey, we had a flat tire.

00:20:45.700 --> 00:20:50.100
Ron: Because I'm sitting there thinking, okay, so they should be here like easily by now.

00:20:50.550 --> 00:20:52.450
Ron: Why can I not get a hold of either one of them?

00:20:53.530 --> 00:20:53.670
Ron/Dave: Yeah.

00:20:53.850 --> 00:20:55.870
Ron: And that was my bad for leaving the phone in the truck.

00:20:56.030 --> 00:20:56.950
Ron: Thanks for ghosting me.

00:20:57.910 --> 00:20:58.850
Ron: Brad didn't answer.

00:20:58.970 --> 00:20:59.370
Ron: I'm sorry.

00:20:59.550 --> 00:21:00.610
Ron: Well, you should teach him better.

00:21:00.770 --> 00:21:01.590
Ron: You should train him.

00:21:02.750 --> 00:21:04.190
Ron: He already retrieves airplane parts.

00:21:05.530 --> 00:21:06.530
Ron: Yeah, in pieces.

00:21:07.270 --> 00:21:11.470
Ron: But anyway, so you guys finally made it after I found out you had a flat tire.

00:21:12.010 --> 00:21:14.770
Ron: And my worrying was completely alleviated.

00:21:15.350 --> 00:21:15.790
Ron: Alleviated.

00:21:16.270 --> 00:21:17.840
Ron: And I was fine.

00:21:18.120 --> 00:21:20.780
Ron: We were on the road enough to get the burnt rubber smell out of the trailer.

00:21:21.080 --> 00:21:22.980
Ron: Which I was appreciative of that.

00:21:22.980 --> 00:21:27.960
Ron: So you didn't want to put your airplanes together that night because it was late and it was dark.

00:21:28.420 --> 00:21:29.500
Ron: Which, understood.

00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:31.460
Dave: Tired, covered in grease.

00:21:31.840 --> 00:21:33.100
Ron: Latest I'd been up for a while.

00:21:33.100 --> 00:21:36.180
Ron: It was 10.30 by the time we decided to go to sleep.

00:21:36.380 --> 00:21:37.000
Ron: Something like that.

00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:37.260
Ron: Yeah.

00:21:38.360 --> 00:21:39.660
Ron: And I was tired by then.

00:21:39.820 --> 00:21:45.280
Ron: So I was out fairly quickly for a little while.

00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:49.760
Ron: But no, it was a lot of fun.

00:21:49.760 --> 00:21:52.020
Ron: And it was very nice out.

00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:53.320
Ron: Yeah, it was excellent.

00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:54.600
Ron: I'm going to be honest.

00:21:54.600 --> 00:22:00.580
Ron: I was not planning on staying previously because I thought it was going to be hot.

00:22:00.840 --> 00:22:01.100
Dave: Right.

00:22:01.340 --> 00:22:03.720
Ron: And so, you know, I am not.

00:22:04.120 --> 00:22:04.980
Ron: I'm high maintenance.

00:22:05.580 --> 00:22:07.740
Ron: So I don't handle the heat very well.

00:22:08.120 --> 00:22:11.040
Ron: But when I found out it was supposed to be down to, what, 51 that night?

00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:11.440
Dave: Right.

00:22:11.500 --> 00:22:13.020
Dave: We didn't even open the windows on the trailer.

00:22:13.100 --> 00:22:14.780
Dave: We were golden.

00:22:15.100 --> 00:22:16.080
Ron: I mean, it was beautiful.

00:22:17.460 --> 00:22:19.580
Ron: I was proud of myself remembering to bring a jacket.

00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:20.280
Ron: Yeah.

00:22:20.460 --> 00:22:21.780
Ron: So that could have been bad.

00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:24.580
Dave: I checked with you to make sure you had one.

00:22:24.700 --> 00:22:26.360
Ron: Because I thought, well, he forgot his jacket.

00:22:26.760 --> 00:22:26.940
Ron: Yeah.

00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:28.600
Ron: Checked with me after I was there, by the way.

00:22:28.860 --> 00:22:30.260
Dave: I had two of them in the trailer.

00:22:30.460 --> 00:22:30.820
Ron: Oh, okay.

00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:31.840
Ron: Well, I didn't need one.

00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:34.120
Ron: But I was, like I said, I was a big boy on that one.

00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:35.540
Dave: So mommy would have been proud.

00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:41.280
Ron: So then the next morning you decided to get up and start putting your airplanes together so you could fly.

00:22:41.760 --> 00:22:42.080
Dave: Yeah.

00:22:44.590 --> 00:22:47.670
Ron: You have taught me, just by watching you,

00:22:49.590 --> 00:22:53.850
Ron: that my decision of not having difficult-to-assemble airplanes

00:22:55.150 --> 00:22:59.650
Ron: is just the most correct decision I have ever made in my life.

00:23:00.230 --> 00:23:01.590
Dave: It's part of the enjoyment.

00:23:01.590 --> 00:23:03.710
Dave: It's not that bad when it's like that.

00:23:03.970 --> 00:23:09.210
Dave: It's bad when it's 90 degrees outside and you're having to sit there and sweat and put all this together.

00:23:09.450 --> 00:23:12.410
Dave: But you didn't seem like you were having a lot of fun.

00:23:14.840 --> 00:23:16.560
Ron: The PUP is not my favorite.

00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:17.440
Ron: Let me put it that way.

00:23:17.840 --> 00:23:20.620
Ron: So explain what this airplane is and what you have to do to put it together.

00:23:20.820 --> 00:23:22.520
Dave: It's a quarter-scale Stopwith PUP.

00:23:22.660 --> 00:23:25.080
Dave: It's also USA.

00:23:26.340 --> 00:23:28.780
Dave: By today's standards, it's pretty minor.

00:23:28.860 --> 00:23:30.120
Dave: But it's got a lot of flying wires.

00:23:30.900 --> 00:23:37.200
Dave: So you have to sort out all the flying wires and then put in the screws to hold the brackets in place.

00:23:37.420 --> 00:23:38.520
Dave: And this is only a biplane.

00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:39.680
Dave: This is only a biplane.

00:23:41.660 --> 00:23:48.810
Dave: And it takes a while to untangle everything because no matter how careful you put it away, it's like Christmas lights.

00:23:48.950 --> 00:23:50.270
Dave: They're going to tangle themselves up.

00:23:52.090 --> 00:23:59.710
Dave: And there's always a turnbuckle that's come loose at some point and it's no longer an adjustment and you have to readjust your turnbuckles and so forth.

00:24:00.530 --> 00:24:02.430
Dave: The plane's a pain in the butt to put together.

00:24:02.770 --> 00:24:02.930
Ron: Yeah.

00:24:03.150 --> 00:24:04.110
Ron: It's a gorgeous airplane.

00:24:04.310 --> 00:24:05.250
Dave: Yeah, it's a nice airplane.

00:24:06.790 --> 00:24:08.170
Dave: It's a pain in the butt to put together.

00:24:08.510 --> 00:24:08.710
Ron: Yeah.

00:24:08.950 --> 00:24:10.130
Ron: So you got that done.

00:24:11.070 --> 00:24:12.770
Dave: And then what else did you bring?

00:24:12.830 --> 00:24:13.570
Dave: Because you brought four.

00:24:13.790 --> 00:24:14.790
Dave: I had the triplane.

00:24:14.970 --> 00:24:15.950
Dave: I had the PUP.

00:24:16.410 --> 00:24:18.010
Dave: I had the Skywarden.

00:24:20.350 --> 00:24:21.850
Dave: And what was the fourth one?

00:24:23.830 --> 00:24:24.230
Dave: Eindecker.

00:24:24.670 --> 00:24:25.470
Ron: Oh, that's right.

00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:28.030
Ron: Nice looking airplane.

00:24:28.030 --> 00:24:30.550
Dave: The Eindecker is just with flying wires.

00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:32.910
Dave: They're non-functional and they're just on clevises.

00:24:33.070 --> 00:24:34.830
Dave: It's not a big deal to put that one together.

00:24:37.670 --> 00:24:38.470
Ron: The, yeah.

00:24:38.690 --> 00:24:44.830
Ron: Like I said, just watching you deal with all those wires and stuff, just, I mean, it was giving me a headache.

00:24:45.110 --> 00:24:49.710
Ron: So I can't imagine sitting there trying to get all that stuff together and figuring out what goes where.

00:24:50.830 --> 00:24:52.890
Ron: You just, you look like you're not having a lot of fun.

00:24:53.170 --> 00:24:53.470
Ron/Dave: Yeah.

00:24:53.710 --> 00:24:56.970
Dave: I may not look like I was having fun, but I wasn't upset either.

00:24:58.310 --> 00:25:01.690
Dave: When you build it, you kind of know where everything goes.

00:25:01.830 --> 00:25:06.070
Dave: If I were to sell the PUP to someone and say, here, put it together, they're not going to figure it out.

00:25:06.520 --> 00:25:07.600
Ron: Well, that's kind of how I was.

00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:11.440
Ron: Because I was watching you trying to figure like, okay, so next he's probably going to do this.

00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:13.820
Ron: And I was completely wrong every time I tried to predict that.

00:25:13.940 --> 00:25:15.620
Dave: I always forget which order the wings go on.

00:25:17.180 --> 00:25:17.540
Dave: So?

00:25:17.860 --> 00:25:19.460
Dave: It's bottom wing first on that one.

00:25:20.540 --> 00:25:20.900
Dave: Okay.

00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.520
Dave: And then the triplane, it's the top wings.

00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:27.420
Ron: So what's the triplane?

00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.420
Ron: What is that one?

00:25:28.600 --> 00:25:28.960
Ron: What do you got?

00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:32.680
Dave: That is a quarter scale Balsa USA DR1 triplane.

00:25:33.040 --> 00:25:35.160
Dave: And that one goes together fairly quickly.

00:25:35.340 --> 00:25:39.460
Dave: That one goes together much quicker because Anthony Falker didn't like bracing wires.

00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:44.040
Dave: So there are no flying wires on that airplane that I have to remove.

00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:51.040
Dave: There's a set on the landing gear and there's a set in between the upper and mid wings, but they are permanently attached.

00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:52.520
Dave: You know, you don't ever mess with them.

00:25:52.780 --> 00:25:56.900
Ron: So that, I mean, that one looked like it went together much easier than the PUP did.

00:25:57.120 --> 00:25:57.340
Dave: Yeah.

00:25:57.580 --> 00:26:00.840
Ron: That one does go, it's three times faster than the PUP.

00:26:01.180 --> 00:26:04.240
Ron: You were hour and a half?

00:26:04.520 --> 00:26:05.940
Dave: Hour and a half with three airplanes.

00:26:06.260 --> 00:26:06.960
Ron: Four airplanes.

00:26:07.940 --> 00:26:08.900
Dave: Oh, three with struts.

00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:09.860
Ron: Okay.

00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.240
Ron: But to get all of them together, you're about an hour and a half.

00:26:12.360 --> 00:26:12.480
Dave: Yeah.

00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:14.660
Dave: That just seems like a lot.

00:26:14.940 --> 00:26:16.580
Dave: That came apart in about 20 minutes.

00:26:19.180 --> 00:26:24.280
Ron: Apart is always easier, obviously, because you're not worried exactly with where things go and tightening them up.

00:26:24.460 --> 00:26:24.620
Ron: Right.

00:26:24.700 --> 00:26:26.340
Ron: You just coil up cables and get them out of the way.

00:26:27.700 --> 00:26:29.940
Ron: So what did you think of the flying up there?

00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.000
Ron: There are some gorgeous aircraft up there.

00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:32.420
Ron: Yeah.

00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.500
Ron: Your planes look big until you get around them.

00:26:34.740 --> 00:26:37.360
Dave: My airplanes look like tiny little toys.

00:26:37.360 --> 00:26:40.040
Ron: Well, they are all tiny little toys, I guess.

00:26:40.320 --> 00:26:40.660
Ron: But...

00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:41.660
Dave: They're much bigger toys.

00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.300
Ron: Like, I was impressed with some of the planes up there.

00:26:45.380 --> 00:26:46.040
Ron: I really was.

00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:46.680
Ron: Yeah.

00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.000
Ron: There's some super, super nice aircraft up there.

00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.440
Ron: John was up there with his Brandenburg again.

00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:52.320
Ron: Yeah, Brandenburg.

00:26:52.740 --> 00:26:53.420
Ron: That was...

00:26:53.420 --> 00:26:54.540
Ron: That's my favorite airplane.

00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:56.560
Ron: That just flies so slow.

00:26:56.780 --> 00:26:58.080
Ron: It just looks...

00:26:58.650 --> 00:26:59.470
Ron: It looks so...

00:26:59.470 --> 00:27:04.510
Ron: And by the way, I don't know if you noticed, he had that together and a lot quicker than you had yours together.

00:27:04.990 --> 00:27:07.550
Dave: Well, it was together when I got there, so...

00:27:07.550 --> 00:27:07.690
Ron: Hmm.

00:27:08.950 --> 00:27:09.690
Dave: Yeah, I'm sure.

00:27:09.790 --> 00:27:10.230
Dave: Just saying.

00:27:10.430 --> 00:27:12.090
Dave: I'm just saying that I'm not that good.

00:27:12.730 --> 00:27:13.850
Ron: Oh, I don't know if it's...

00:27:13.850 --> 00:27:14.450
Ron: Well, he is good.

00:27:14.590 --> 00:27:16.390
Ron: Because, I mean, watching him fly, he does a good job.

00:27:16.770 --> 00:27:17.710
Ron: We should have sat down.

00:27:17.830 --> 00:27:18.730
Ron: Like, I took my recording.

00:27:19.990 --> 00:27:21.350
Ron: The weekend got away from me.

00:27:22.010 --> 00:27:28.040
Ron: I took the recording gear, because I thought maybe we'll have a time to sit down and, you know, even talk to people there.

00:27:28.360 --> 00:27:28.580
Ron: Right.

00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:29.160
Ron: I failed.

00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:30.880
Ron: So badly did I fail.

00:27:31.040 --> 00:27:33.120
Dave: Well, to be fair...

00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:33.840
Dave: To be fair.

00:27:34.700 --> 00:27:38.340
Dave: We only had about two hours, because this was a Thursday, Friday, Saturday event.

00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:43.440
Dave: It started raining at 10.30, and by noon, it was raining.

00:27:43.900 --> 00:27:44.120
Dave: Yeah.

00:27:44.320 --> 00:27:45.160
Ron: I guess that's right.

00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:45.820
Ron: I forgot about that.

00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:50.480
Dave: So, I mean, we only had a couple hours, really, at the event.

00:27:51.140 --> 00:27:58.210
Ron: And then I had to get going sooner than I wanted to, because, like, Reggie was supposed to come up.

00:27:58.410 --> 00:28:00.110
Ron: First thing in the morning, I'm coming up.

00:28:00.250 --> 00:28:03.530
Dave: First thing in the morning for Reggie was 6.30 that night.

00:28:03.750 --> 00:28:03.970
Ron: Yeah.

00:28:04.130 --> 00:28:05.050
Ron: That's when he showed up.

00:28:05.430 --> 00:28:06.070
Ron: Ask him.

00:28:06.270 --> 00:28:07.230
Ron: It's not his fault.

00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:07.950
Ron: Never is.

00:28:08.950 --> 00:28:10.670
Ron: So, I didn't even get to see him.

00:28:10.790 --> 00:28:12.650
Ron: Like, I was kind of hanging out, waiting for him.

00:28:12.670 --> 00:28:25.610
Ron: He was bringing a couple airplanes up to fly, and I was going to spend some time, you know, figuring, when he says first thing in the morning, like, to me, first thing in the morning is, I will be there by 8.30.

00:28:25.970 --> 00:28:26.910
Ron: 9 o'clock latest.

00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:27.450
Ron: Right.

00:28:27.710 --> 00:28:30.810
Ron: So, leave here by 6 to 6.30 in the morning.

00:28:31.770 --> 00:28:32.070
Ron: No.

00:28:32.170 --> 00:28:34.290
Ron: He apparently left at, like, 4 in the afternoon.

00:28:35.690 --> 00:28:36.930
Ron: So, like I said, I didn't get to see him.

00:28:37.010 --> 00:28:38.650
Ron: I don't know what he actually brought.

00:28:38.790 --> 00:28:39.910
Ron: I think he said a B-70.

00:28:39.910 --> 00:28:42.350
Ron: He brought his B-24 and his B-17.

00:28:42.870 --> 00:28:44.130
Ron: And how did that go?

00:28:44.570 --> 00:28:46.410
Dave: B-24 actually flew fine.

00:28:46.690 --> 00:28:52.610
Dave: He broke the landing gear on it because he came in a little crooked, and they don't like the one wheel.

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:53.900
Dave: True.

00:28:54.260 --> 00:28:55.740
Dave: So, it broke the bracket on that.

00:28:55.840 --> 00:28:57.800
Dave: He repaired that on the field and was good to go.

00:28:58.420 --> 00:29:06.660
Dave: And then we were trying to fly our B-17 with bigger-than-average batteries, and we can't balance it because it's nose-heavy with these giant batteries in it.

00:29:07.760 --> 00:29:10.060
Dave: So, he can't get it off the ground because it keeps nosing over.

00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:11.100
Ron: Okay.

00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:12.580
Dave: Because it's very nose-heavy.

00:29:14.120 --> 00:29:15.760
Dave: So, mister doesn't check CG.

00:29:15.760 --> 00:29:16.100
Dave: It's G.

00:29:16.700 --> 00:29:17.040
Dave: Okay.

00:29:17.550 --> 00:29:19.330
Ron: Well, because he said he flew it once or something.

00:29:19.330 --> 00:29:20.890
Dave: Hey, at least it's nose-heavy this time.

00:29:21.150 --> 00:29:21.430
Ron: Yeah.

00:29:21.730 --> 00:29:25.770
Ron: But I thought he said he flew it once and it was okay, but then he couldn't get it off the ground the second time or something.

00:29:26.210 --> 00:29:29.310
Dave: Yeah, I was busy flying while he was messing with that, so.

00:29:29.950 --> 00:29:30.270
Dave: Okay.

00:29:31.110 --> 00:29:31.870
Dave: Good old Reggie.

00:29:32.810 --> 00:29:33.510
Ron: Mr. CG.

00:29:34.590 --> 00:29:36.750
Ron: So, yeah, like I said, by the time he got there, I was gone.

00:29:37.030 --> 00:29:42.310
Ron: I didn't have a chance to talk to him, see him, anything like that, so whatever.

00:29:42.850 --> 00:29:43.030
Ron: Yeah.

00:29:43.350 --> 00:29:45.430
Ron: He's supposed to be coming over to Monticello this weekend.

00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:46.700
Dave: Yeah.

00:29:46.700 --> 00:29:48.420
Ron: I am not holding my breath, but we'll see.

00:29:49.600 --> 00:29:50.260
Ron: He's going to join.

00:29:50.340 --> 00:29:51.320
Ron: He said he's going to join that club.

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:52.000
Ron: I think he should.

00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:53.280
Ron: That would be a good club for him to join.

00:29:53.280 --> 00:29:57.780
Ron: Um, especially if he's thinking about getting a jet.

00:29:58.220 --> 00:29:59.180
Ron: Yeah, definitely.

00:29:59.540 --> 00:30:00.520
Ron: So, we'll see.

00:30:01.300 --> 00:30:04.740
Ron: Um, so, yeah, like I said, I came home Saturday.

00:30:05.060 --> 00:30:06.160
Ron: You guys stayed till Sunday.

00:30:07.040 --> 00:30:07.540
Ron: And...

00:30:07.540 --> 00:30:11.420
Dave: We were hoping to fly Sunday morning, but consistent rain.

00:30:11.940 --> 00:30:12.440
Dave: Blowing.

00:30:12.980 --> 00:30:13.200
Ron: Yeah.

00:30:13.820 --> 00:30:19.000
Dave: So, came home and got 20 miles from home and blew another tire.

00:30:19.560 --> 00:30:29.820
Ron: Oh, at least you were smart enough to get your spare, not spare, whatever, your bad tire that was blown on the way up there, you got it replaced before you came home.

00:30:29.820 --> 00:30:30.080
Ron: Replaced it.

00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:35.560
Dave: No one up there had a new trailer tire, so we got a used trailer tire.

00:30:36.540 --> 00:30:39.420
Dave: But, I mean, it's working, right?

00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:43.200
Dave: It's round and it's got tread on it, unlike the one that's in the bed of the truck right now.

00:30:43.280 --> 00:30:46.240
Ron: Not going thump, thump, thump everywhere and getting it messed up.

00:30:46.320 --> 00:30:51.500
Dave: Yeah, actually, the one that blew on the way home, it literally just blew the tread off and was still holding air.

00:30:51.760 --> 00:30:53.320
Dave: So, were those retreads or something then?

00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:53.840
Dave: Like, what?

00:30:54.080 --> 00:30:55.400
Dave: No, they're not retreads.

00:30:55.460 --> 00:30:58.800
Dave: I just don't know why all of a sudden they're deciding to shed the treads.

00:30:58.800 --> 00:31:01.200
Dave: But this time it actually wrapped around the trailer axle.

00:31:01.340 --> 00:31:02.880
Dave: I got 90% of it back.

00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:03.920
Dave: Oh, man.

00:31:04.300 --> 00:31:04.700
Dave: Well.

00:31:05.360 --> 00:31:13.030
Dave: But it was sitting there, but without the tread in it, holding the air in, with 50 pounds in the tire, it kind of blew up.

00:31:13.250 --> 00:31:16.110
Dave: So, we were letting air out of it to keep it from exploding in the truck.

00:31:16.270 --> 00:31:17.270
Dave: I can imagine.

00:31:17.810 --> 00:31:21.530
Dave: So, we drove about four miles on the breakdown lane to get to the next exit.

00:31:22.390 --> 00:31:22.790
Ron: Oh.

00:31:22.990 --> 00:31:24.710
Ron: Well, yeah, you don't want to do that on the interstate.

00:31:24.890 --> 00:31:25.490
Ron: I don't blame you.

00:31:25.590 --> 00:31:25.770
Ron: Yeah.

00:31:25.770 --> 00:31:26.730
Ron: That's kind of a pain.

00:31:27.090 --> 00:31:29.770
Ron: So, you'll get that all done this winter.

00:31:29.830 --> 00:31:36.130
Dave: We will have new tires, wheels, and, yeah, I think I'm just going to buy a brand new spare.

00:31:36.750 --> 00:31:37.150
Ron: Yeah.

00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:38.080
Ron: It's a good idea.

00:31:38.340 --> 00:31:41.760
Ron: Get everything all done this winter so that next weekend for Joe Knoll we can be.

00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:42.600
Dave: Good to go.

00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:45.120
Ron: I'm looking forward to that one.

00:31:46.600 --> 00:31:55.060
Dave: I think I'll even, I think I'll keep one of the new used spare, I think I'll keep it as a second backup, just in case.

00:31:55.220 --> 00:31:55.740
Ron: Not a bad idea.

00:31:55.860 --> 00:31:56.900
Ron: Especially if you have room for it.

00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:58.140
Ron: It's not going to hurt anything.

00:31:58.380 --> 00:31:58.500
Ron: Yeah.

00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:00.480
Dave: One stores underneath the trailer.

00:32:00.580 --> 00:32:02.640
Dave: That was part of the problem is the one that goes underneath the trailer.

00:32:02.780 --> 00:32:05.720
Dave: You can only turn the jack handle a quarter turn at a time.

00:32:06.060 --> 00:32:07.060
Dave: Then you have to reset it.

00:32:07.420 --> 00:32:09.120
Dave: So, it takes forever to drop the tire.

00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:10.000
Ron: Yeah.

00:32:10.120 --> 00:32:11.020
Dave: That's going to get reworked.

00:32:11.540 --> 00:32:12.200
Ron: It's a good idea.

00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:15.340
Ron: Hopefully, you'll never have to use it again, but it'll be good to have it there if you need it.

00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:15.560
Ron: Yep.

00:32:17.280 --> 00:32:22.180
Ron: So, I think the last thing that I have that I want to talk about, I don't know if you have anything else.

00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.160
Ron: Well, we talked about maybe winterizing things.

00:32:25.460 --> 00:32:25.720
Dave: Okay.

00:32:25.840 --> 00:32:26.520
Ron: So, I'll get to my thing.

00:32:26.620 --> 00:32:28.220
Ron: Then you can talk about winterizing things a little bit.

00:32:28.220 --> 00:32:30.520
Ron: So, I crashed.

00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:31.680
Ron: You did.

00:32:31.980 --> 00:32:32.200
Ron: I did.

00:32:32.260 --> 00:32:32.820
Ron: It's not bad.

00:32:33.020 --> 00:32:34.280
Ron: It sounds worse than it is.

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.300
Ron: But my slow ultra stick, which was becoming quickly my favorite airplane.

00:32:40.580 --> 00:32:42.340
Ron: I consider this peer pressure.

00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:43.820
Ron: Like, I don't.

00:32:44.080 --> 00:32:45.920
Ron: Peer pressure by a five-year-old.

00:32:46.060 --> 00:32:46.660
Ron: She's six.

00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.640
Ron: But anyway, so, it's completely my fault.

00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:50.100
Ron: I understand.

00:32:50.360 --> 00:32:50.960
Ron: Like, it was me.

00:32:51.140 --> 00:32:52.820
Ron: But I don't accept responsibility.

00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:54.300
Ron: No, I'm kidding.

00:32:54.560 --> 00:32:55.560
Ron: So, okay.

00:32:55.560 --> 00:33:00.420
Ron: We finally had a break in the wind because this past week has been very windy.

00:33:00.600 --> 00:33:01.100
Ron: It's been a little breezy.

00:33:02.070 --> 00:33:04.350
Ron: 25-ish mile an hour winds around here.

00:33:04.350 --> 00:33:14.750
Ron: So, I come home last night, Wednesday night, and I pretty much realize as I pull into the garage, the trees are not moving.

00:33:14.990 --> 00:33:17.010
Ron: This is not normal for this week.

00:33:17.510 --> 00:33:20.750
Ron: So, I decided to get my slow ultra stick out.

00:33:20.910 --> 00:33:23.710
Ron: I hurried up, got batteries charged because I didn't have anything charged.

00:33:24.070 --> 00:33:28.270
Ron: Took 15 minutes to get two batteries charged, and I threw the other two on the charger after that.

00:33:28.830 --> 00:33:33.820
Ron: Got everything together, went outside, and started to fly.

00:33:34.060 --> 00:33:34.280
Ron: Whoops.

00:33:34.280 --> 00:33:35.880
Ron: I've done that several times today.

00:33:36.300 --> 00:33:36.820
Ron: Started to fly.

00:33:36.940 --> 00:33:37.580
Ron: Everything went well.

00:33:37.760 --> 00:33:38.660
Ron: Was having fun with it.

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:50.060
Ron: And then, normally when I fly my UMX stuff outside, so, we have like a field, and then we have like the rest of our yard, I guess is how I could describe it.

00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:51.000
Ron: So, an area that...

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.420
Dave: You have a pasture and a yard.

00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:52.860
Dave: Yeah.

00:33:52.940 --> 00:33:55.700
Ron: So, the pasture, I've not really cut.

00:33:56.040 --> 00:33:58.780
Ron: I mean, I've run the bush hog over a month or so ago.

00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.700
Ron: So, grass is, let's say, 18 inches tall.

00:34:02.900 --> 00:34:03.800
Dave: It's rather deep.

00:34:04.560 --> 00:34:04.880
Ron: Exactly.

00:34:05.220 --> 00:34:06.780
Ron: So, but it's not anything you're going to run through.

00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.100
Ron: It's not anything you're going to play on.

00:34:08.160 --> 00:34:10.100
Ron: It's not anything you're going to use, really, at this point.

00:34:10.620 --> 00:34:16.020
Ron: So, the rest of our yard is mowed short, like inch and a half tall, whatever.

00:34:16.020 --> 00:34:24.320
Ron: And, when I have my UMX planes out, I will fly just over that smaller area, and Piper will run along with them.

00:34:24.420 --> 00:34:32.140
Ron: Or, she will get her little power wheels out and drive that, and then, you know, I'll just kind of buzz her a few times or something like that.

00:34:34.160 --> 00:34:38.040
Ron: So, with a slow ultra stick, she asked me, fly over here so I can run with it.

00:34:38.700 --> 00:34:43.820
Ron: I think she wanted to race it or something, because she's like, see how slow I can get it and see if she can run faster than it.

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.960
Ron: So, I said, no, I don't want to fly it into a tree.

00:34:48.120 --> 00:34:56.290
Ron: And, I didn't get that out more than, you know, five seconds, and I was like, oh, I'm not going to say no.

00:34:56.290 --> 00:34:56.890
Ron: That's fine.

00:34:56.890 --> 00:34:57.430
Ron: I'll do it.

00:34:57.990 --> 00:35:10.650
Ron: So, I came around, and I, like, I know this is a bigger plane, so the depth perception is going to be different on this plane that's, you know, three, four times bigger wingspan than the small, tiny little UMX stuff that I fly out there.

00:35:10.650 --> 00:35:41.180
Ron: And so, I went, and I flew, and I knew I was in front of a row of trees that, you know, between our house and our neighbor's house, and I came in what I thought was in front of the apple tree that's in our yard, and all of a sudden, it disappears behind the tree, hits the top of the tree, and then tumbles out, about a good 20 feet in the air, tumbles out onto the ground.

00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:44.140
Ron: And, Piper looked at me.

00:35:44.680 --> 00:35:48.000
Ron: I kind of giggled a little bit, because it really was not that big of a deal.

00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:55.480
Ron: And, just, you could tell she didn't know how to react until I gave her a sort of, you know, it's okay kind of thing.

00:35:55.640 --> 00:35:56.540
Dave: These things happen.

00:35:56.740 --> 00:35:57.100
Ron: Exactly.

00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.760
Ron: So, she ran over there, and I, of course, I blamed her.

00:36:00.040 --> 00:36:02.000
Ron: I told her it was all her fault and stuff.

00:36:02.660 --> 00:36:03.480
Dave: Excellent parenting.

00:36:04.040 --> 00:36:05.220
Ron: She knew I was joking.

00:36:05.380 --> 00:36:06.960
Ron: Like, I explained it really wasn't her fault.

00:36:07.180 --> 00:36:09.140
Ron: I joke around like that.

00:36:09.560 --> 00:36:15.550
Ron: So, anyway, so we went over and looked at it and stuff, and, like, it landed on its tail.

00:36:16.650 --> 00:36:17.590
Ron: Directly on its tail.

00:36:17.630 --> 00:36:18.630
Dave: Sort of like my glider dig.

00:36:18.790 --> 00:36:20.010
Dave: It came straight down on the tail.

00:36:20.190 --> 00:36:20.490
Ron: Right.

00:36:20.830 --> 00:36:24.690
Ron: Except I still had a full, like, my plane was together before it fell out of the air.

00:36:25.590 --> 00:36:26.950
Ron: Didn't have the wings folded or anything.

00:36:27.850 --> 00:36:29.110
Ron: That was the one you're talking about, right?

00:36:29.350 --> 00:36:30.510
Dave: That's, well, yeah.

00:36:30.790 --> 00:36:33.510
Dave: When it landed on its tail is when the nose flew off.

00:36:33.590 --> 00:36:34.130
Ron: That's right.

00:36:34.310 --> 00:36:35.310
Dave: That wasn't when it folded.

00:36:35.310 --> 00:36:36.370
Ron: You have so many crashes.

00:36:36.550 --> 00:36:37.410
Ron: I can't get my straight.

00:36:37.670 --> 00:36:38.070
Dave: Yeah.

00:36:38.810 --> 00:36:41.990
Dave: When it folded the wings, it turned into a little ball.

00:36:42.190 --> 00:36:43.110
Dave: That was a long dart.

00:36:43.390 --> 00:36:43.550
Dave: Right.

00:36:44.410 --> 00:36:45.690
Ron: But, anyway, so we went out there.

00:36:45.790 --> 00:36:46.850
Ron: It landed right on its tail.

00:36:46.850 --> 00:36:51.990
Ron: And I will admit, I was impressed with how unbroken it was.

00:36:52.210 --> 00:36:55.430
Dave: Yeah, it looks great sitting in your garage, except for the tail's pointing 90 degrees.

00:36:55.430 --> 00:37:04.610
Ron: Right, so the little joiner that holds the two pieces of aluminum angle together, or square tubing, I guess, together, is broken, which is not a big deal.

00:37:04.810 --> 00:37:06.670
Ron: I mean, that's an easy fix.

00:37:06.870 --> 00:37:08.070
Ron: It's just a replacement part.

00:37:08.470 --> 00:37:12.690
Ron: And then the battery holder came off, like, because it landed.

00:37:12.830 --> 00:37:15.790
Ron: It hit the tail and then rotated down onto its gear.

00:37:15.890 --> 00:37:16.850
Ron: Slammed down on the gear.

00:37:17.030 --> 00:37:17.890
Dave: Slammed down pretty hard.

00:37:18.190 --> 00:37:18.570
Dave: Yeah.

00:37:18.870 --> 00:37:20.770
Ron: And, honestly, that could have broken in the tree, too.

00:37:20.890 --> 00:37:21.490
Ron: I don't know.

00:37:21.810 --> 00:37:23.850
Ron: Like, I don't know how and when.

00:37:23.910 --> 00:37:25.130
Ron: I don't know where it happened.

00:37:25.130 --> 00:37:25.510
Ron: Right.

00:37:26.870 --> 00:37:31.750
Ron: So that, and it's just a little white piece of plastic that gets Velcroed on.

00:37:32.070 --> 00:37:36.450
Ron: That split in half, which is actually probably fixable, but I'm just going to order a new one.

00:37:37.830 --> 00:37:39.330
Ron: So I have those two pieces.

00:37:39.370 --> 00:37:43.490
Ron: The propeller broke, which is definitely from flying into the tree.

00:37:45.350 --> 00:37:47.790
Ron: So that's the only three things, really, that happened to it.

00:37:47.970 --> 00:37:56.490
Ron: If I really wanted to get, well, I don't have the propeller, but if I really wanted to just kind of tape it back together, it would be easy to do without replacement parts.

00:37:56.630 --> 00:38:02.570
Ron: Put a stick in the channel and Velcro strap the battery on and off you go.

00:38:02.770 --> 00:38:05.770
Ron: See, like, I don't plan on doing this again, but nobody ever does.

00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:10.890
Ron: My thought was, I mean, these are cheap parts, like, four bucks a piece.

00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:14.490
Ron: Like, I think if I replace everything out that I broke, I'm under 12 bucks.

00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:14.870
Dave: Yeah.

00:38:14.870 --> 00:38:17.990
Ron: So it's not a stupid, expensive crash.

00:38:18.350 --> 00:38:22.070
Ron: Looks worse than it is, like I said, because the tail is completely off.

00:38:24.130 --> 00:38:40.160
Ron: But, like, I thought about just, like, going in Menards or whatever, Lowe's or whatever else is around, to see if they just have a full length piece of that aluminum channel or the tubing, because that would be so easy just to replace the whole thing.

00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:48.680
Ron: Um, but then I thought, if that happened again, which shouldn't, but might,

00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:51.660
Ron: I would want it to break where it broke.

00:38:52.790 --> 00:38:53.410
Ron: You know what I mean?

00:38:53.410 --> 00:38:54.970
Ron: You've got to have a weak point built into it somewhere.

00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:55.410
Ron: Right.

00:38:55.490 --> 00:38:59.670
Ron: And so if that's where it breaks again, that's perfect, because it doesn't mess up the tail feathers.

00:39:00.350 --> 00:39:01.350
Dave: Yeah, they look great.

00:39:01.570 --> 00:39:03.170
Ron: I mean, you can't tell it was in a tree.

00:39:03.350 --> 00:39:08.910
Ron: The front of the airplane, the wings, all that kind of stuff, except for the propeller, it's fine.

00:39:10.030 --> 00:39:13.470
Ron: So that was my stupidity, but it will get fixed.

00:39:13.610 --> 00:39:14.190
Ron: It'll get flown again.

00:39:14.770 --> 00:39:19.300
Ron: That plane is too easy just to take outside and fly to not fix it.

00:39:19.540 --> 00:39:19.660
Dave: Right.

00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:20.200
Ron: That make sense?

00:39:20.540 --> 00:39:20.620
Dave: Right.

00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:21.700
Ron: I mean, like, there are some of them.

00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:22.980
Ron: If I crash, I'll be like, oh, I'm done.

00:39:23.080 --> 00:39:23.960
Ron: I don't care about it.

00:39:24.340 --> 00:39:27.920
Ron: But that is just such a good flying, fun little airplane that I don't want to do.

00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:29.940
Dave: It's your pocket rocket that you just go to.

00:39:30.520 --> 00:39:31.360
Dave: It's so simple.

00:39:31.900 --> 00:39:32.880
Ron: It really is.

00:39:33.580 --> 00:39:33.760
Ron: So.

00:39:34.420 --> 00:39:35.580
Dave: We have another crash story.

00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:39.380
Dave: So Daniel bought his new plane at Streeter.

00:39:39.600 --> 00:39:41.480
Dave: Little UMX Ultrix.

00:39:42.200 --> 00:39:42.960
Dave: Yeah, I didn't.

00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:43.520
Dave: Oh, no.

00:39:44.040 --> 00:39:45.460
Ron: I didn't hear anything about this one.

00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:46.760
Ron: So, yeah.

00:39:48.570 --> 00:39:49.610
Dave: Saving this one for later.

00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:52.650
Ron: So.

00:39:52.950 --> 00:39:53.650
Ron: Well, hold on.

00:39:53.790 --> 00:39:54.350
Ron: Let's tell the whole story.

00:39:54.470 --> 00:39:55.150
Ron: So we were up there.

00:39:55.310 --> 00:39:56.970
Ron: This is during one of our rain delays.

00:39:57.150 --> 00:40:04.630
Ron: We went to Brian's shop, and he was looking at either the UMX Ultrix or the 600 millimeter Ultrix.

00:40:06.930 --> 00:40:11.270
Ron: We kind of talked through which one he was going to get.

00:40:11.610 --> 00:40:13.690
Ron: Because he was asking me, he's like, which one do you like better?

00:40:13.810 --> 00:40:16.510
Ron: It's so hard to say because they're both fun airplanes.

00:40:16.730 --> 00:40:21.490
Dave: I tend to gravitate to the smaller one just because it's smaller and easier to pack around.

00:40:21.690 --> 00:40:22.490
Dave: I agree with that.

00:40:22.750 --> 00:40:23.350
Dave: I like the way.

00:40:23.370 --> 00:40:24.070
Dave: And the box has a handle.

00:40:24.290 --> 00:40:26.610
Ron: Well, my big box has a handle now, too.

00:40:26.670 --> 00:40:27.270
Dave: Well, so does mine.

00:40:27.270 --> 00:40:33.450
Ron: So I kind of gravitate towards the big one because, well, I'm trying to think.

00:40:33.550 --> 00:40:36.610
Ron: So I have four batteries that will go in the big one.

00:40:37.310 --> 00:40:39.790
Ron: They all charge fast, so that doesn't matter to me.

00:40:39.910 --> 00:40:56.730
Ron: The only thing I do like about the small ones better is that the little 1S150s that it takes, or not 1, 1S500s that it takes, I can charge at the field, at the local field here where we don't have power, just off one of the little battery banks that you use to recharge your phone.

00:40:56.730 --> 00:40:57.230
Ron: Yeah.

00:40:57.590 --> 00:40:59.410
Ron: That makes it very simple.

00:41:00.470 --> 00:41:02.790
Ron: But, I mean, they both fly so good.

00:41:03.150 --> 00:41:06.610
Ron: The big one just flies a little bit differently.

00:41:06.890 --> 00:41:08.470
Ron: It handles the wind a little bit better.

00:41:08.690 --> 00:41:08.950
Ron: Yeah.

00:41:09.210 --> 00:41:13.370
Ron: I don't want to say it flies better because it doesn't fly better, but it flies differently, and I like it better.

00:41:13.590 --> 00:41:15.590
Ron: They fly pretty similar in my book.

00:41:15.870 --> 00:41:20.670
Ron: But it's a little less maneuverable than the small one is.

00:41:20.670 --> 00:41:25.530
Dave: I like flying the little ones real low and slow right at night.

00:41:25.530 --> 00:41:29.930
Ron: Yeah, I like seeing how fast you can dive to the ground and pull out.

00:41:32.160 --> 00:41:36.160
Ron: But anyway, so he ended up going with the UMX version.

00:41:37.780 --> 00:41:39.180
Ron: He bought the light kit.

00:41:39.780 --> 00:41:40.200
Ron: All right.

00:41:41.560 --> 00:41:43.840
Ron: And two batteries, I think it was.

00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:45.820
Ron: That's all we could find up at the shop.

00:41:45.980 --> 00:41:46.440
Dave: But anyway, so...

00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:47.280
Ron: That's all you need is two.

00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.280
Ron: So when I left, he hadn't flown it yet.

00:41:53.240 --> 00:41:54.700
Dave: So we had a little bit of a...

00:41:54.700 --> 00:41:55.140
Dave: Do tell.

00:41:55.140 --> 00:41:56.700
Dave: A little more rain delay.

00:41:57.510 --> 00:42:02.110
Dave: Sat down, and I programmed the radio for him, and he charged the battery, and it was pretty much ready to go.

00:42:02.970 --> 00:42:06.890
Dave: I took it off, did the trim flights on it, made sure everything worked properly.

00:42:07.870 --> 00:42:08.930
Dave: Went to hand it to him.

00:42:09.250 --> 00:42:10.790
Dave: He has it for less than five seconds.

00:42:10.910 --> 00:42:15.670
Dave: When I'm handing it to him, he decides to flip the motor hold switch and turns the motor off.

00:42:16.150 --> 00:42:16.870
Dave: Oh, no.

00:42:16.870 --> 00:42:19.130
Dave: So he flies it for less than five seconds.

00:42:20.390 --> 00:42:20.750
Ron/Dave: Whomp!

00:42:22.030 --> 00:42:26.150
Ron: The ever-so-known sound of what one sounds like going into the ground.

00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:27.710
Dave: Broke a prop.

00:42:28.290 --> 00:42:29.650
Ron: Well, it should have come with a replacement.

00:42:29.750 --> 00:42:30.650
Dave: He got a replacement prop.

00:42:30.650 --> 00:42:32.750
Dave: We put a new prop on it, and he flew it just fine.

00:42:32.950 --> 00:42:33.270
Ron: Oh, good.

00:42:33.370 --> 00:42:36.510
Dave: And he is absolutely amazed how maneuverable the thing is.

00:42:37.070 --> 00:42:40.050
Dave: When it first took off, he, of course, he flies everything full throttle.

00:42:40.190 --> 00:42:44.150
Dave: I tried to break him up, and he still flies everything full throttle.

00:42:44.350 --> 00:42:45.650
Ron: That's one that doesn't need to be flown.

00:42:45.650 --> 00:42:48.950
Dave: You fly that thing at full throttle, it's darting around like a little mosquito.

00:42:49.290 --> 00:42:49.470
Ron: Yeah.

00:42:50.230 --> 00:42:55.570
Dave: I got him to slow it down, and he was just flabbergasted at how maneuverable and how small a space he can fly it in.

00:42:55.750 --> 00:42:56.450
Ron: Right, yeah.

00:42:56.550 --> 00:42:59.790
Dave: So he has since got the lights installed on it.

00:43:00.310 --> 00:43:00.670
Dave: Good.

00:43:00.690 --> 00:43:01.710
Dave: And we're good to go again.

00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:04.330
Dave: Any damage at all to the...

00:43:04.330 --> 00:43:05.110
Dave: Just a propeller.

00:43:05.290 --> 00:43:05.630
Dave: Foam?

00:43:05.830 --> 00:43:05.990
Ron: Okay.

00:43:06.170 --> 00:43:06.330
Dave: Nope.

00:43:06.650 --> 00:43:06.870
Ron: Good.

00:43:07.090 --> 00:43:07.950
Dave: Just a propeller.

00:43:08.090 --> 00:43:08.830
Dave: I'm glad to hear that.

00:43:09.010 --> 00:43:10.310
Dave: I think it hit flat.

00:43:11.310 --> 00:43:16.630
Dave: If we had thought about it, if he had just let go of the sticks, the gyro on it would have flattened it out anyway.

00:43:16.850 --> 00:43:19.470
Dave: But he was brand new to it and was fighting with it.

00:43:19.670 --> 00:43:19.910
Ron: Yeah.

00:43:20.150 --> 00:43:21.150
Ron: And that happens.

00:43:21.370 --> 00:43:23.900
Ron: I mean, I don't know how...

00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:25.300
Ron: Well, I mean, like, just when you land.

00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:27.400
Ron: I mean, that's kind of the same thing that you're talking about.

00:43:27.560 --> 00:43:33.880
Ron: It doesn't have gear, so you're going to come on the belly, and you have to be careful, I guess, to not break a prop.

00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.780
Ron: Yeah, you just got to pancake it in.

00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:36.640
Ron: Yeah.

00:43:36.900 --> 00:43:38.360
Dave: Well, because it does look like a pancake.

00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.220
Ron: Well, and see, that's the other thing that's nice about the bigger one.

00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.160
Ron: It does have that front gear.

00:43:43.380 --> 00:43:49.020
Ron: It's not a steerable nose wheel, but with a differential thrust, you can still taxi it.

00:43:49.020 --> 00:43:49.520
Ron: It's amazing.

00:43:49.520 --> 00:43:50.800
Dave: It does taxi fairly well.

00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:51.100
Dave: Yeah.

00:43:51.300 --> 00:43:52.840
Dave: And it's got the little rollers in the back.

00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:53.100
Ron: Yeah.

00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:54.020
Ron: Not really wheels.

00:43:54.140 --> 00:43:54.340
Ron: You're right.

00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:55.540
Ron: There are more rollers than anything.

00:43:55.700 --> 00:43:57.380
Ron: But it's a good airplane, too.

00:43:57.700 --> 00:43:57.860
Ron: Yeah.

00:43:58.340 --> 00:44:01.160
Ron: I have a feeling he'll probably end up with that one also.

00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:01.680
Dave: Yeah.

00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:03.500
Dave: Well, you know, five seconds in.

00:44:05.220 --> 00:44:08.040
Ron: I heard click and his radio say something.

00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:09.220
Ron: I was like, uh-oh.

00:44:10.160 --> 00:44:13.140
Ron: So when you hand it over to him, he probably, with his right.

00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:14.240
Ron: His right hand.

00:44:14.520 --> 00:44:14.640
Dave: Probably.

00:44:14.940 --> 00:44:18.200
Dave: Yeah, because he has the motor hold switch on, or safety switch on the right.

00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:18.640
Ron: Yep.

00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:19.640
Ron: That's where mine is, too.

00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:24.900
Ron: So, well, at least he learned, and we won't do that again.

00:44:25.700 --> 00:44:26.780
Ron: I'm glad he likes it, though.

00:44:26.860 --> 00:44:28.040
Ron: I forgot he got that one.

00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:29.220
Ron: So, good for him.

00:44:29.260 --> 00:44:30.180
Ron: We had some fun with that.

00:44:30.300 --> 00:44:30.980
Ron: He's now part of the class.

00:44:31.020 --> 00:44:31.980
Ron: I think we all have one now.

00:44:32.020 --> 00:44:32.700
Dave: We all have one.

00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:32.960
Dave: Yeah.

00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:34.520
Dave: I've got a big one and a small one.

00:44:34.640 --> 00:44:35.820
Dave: You've got a big one and a small one.

00:44:36.180 --> 00:44:37.360
Dave: Tommy has a small one.

00:44:39.100 --> 00:44:40.340
Dave: Reggie has a small one.

00:44:40.680 --> 00:44:42.300
Ron: And Daniel has a small one.

00:44:42.700 --> 00:44:43.020
Ron: Sorry.

00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:45.280
Dave: Oh, God.

00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:46.600
Dave: This goes down the gutter so fast.

00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:51.460
Ron: Anyway, I never get to say that any other time.

00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:53.440
Ron: Yeah.

00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:55.360
Ron: So, I mean, they're fun airplanes.

00:44:55.540 --> 00:45:02.180
Ron: And I think there was one time we caught it, the big one, which is usually $199.

00:45:02.640 --> 00:45:06.420
Ron: I think Horizon had them on sale once for $169 last summer.

00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:08.660
Ron: No, it would have been the spring, perhaps.

00:45:09.100 --> 00:45:09.320
Dave: Yeah.

00:45:09.420 --> 00:45:10.960
Dave: I got mine on sale.

00:45:11.160 --> 00:45:11.440
Dave: Gosh.

00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:12.540
Dave: What did I pay for mine?

00:45:14.660 --> 00:45:17.380
Dave: It was like $159 or something like that.

00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:18.120
Ron: That's what it was.

00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:18.360
Ron: Yeah.

00:45:19.020 --> 00:45:20.100
Ron: Because they're $200 new, right?

00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:20.840
Ron: $199?

00:45:20.980 --> 00:45:21.120
Dave: Yeah.

00:45:21.580 --> 00:45:21.900
Ron: Okay.

00:45:22.220 --> 00:45:22.420
Ron: Yeah.

00:45:22.640 --> 00:45:22.860
Dave: Yeah.

00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:24.640
Dave: Mine was on sale when I bought it.

00:45:24.720 --> 00:45:26.840
Dave: Otherwise, I probably would have bought the small one to start with.

00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:28.160
Ron: Yeah.

00:45:28.700 --> 00:45:30.300
Ron: Like I said, they're just, they're good airplanes.

00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:31.420
Ron: I enjoy them.

00:45:31.540 --> 00:45:32.120
Dave: Just knock about it.

00:45:32.140 --> 00:45:32.900
Dave: You don't worry about them.

00:45:33.080 --> 00:45:35.480
Dave: If you smack it in the ground, you smack it in the ground.

00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:35.660
Dave: I found it.

00:45:37.600 --> 00:45:38.000
Ron: Yep.

00:45:38.240 --> 00:45:38.980
Ron: Been there, done that.

00:45:39.820 --> 00:45:40.920
Ron: So, well, good for him.

00:45:40.980 --> 00:45:41.860
Ron: I'm glad he got that.

00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.780
Ron: And I'm hoping he'll enjoy the other flying with it.

00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:46.740
Ron: We'll have to all get them together.

00:45:47.300 --> 00:45:48.560
Ron: Oh, that's going to get confusing.

00:45:49.080 --> 00:45:50.580
Ron: Yeah, well, that's okay.

00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.600
Ron: We'll take them all to Joe and all and fly them all together.

00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:55.080
Dave: Yeah.

00:45:55.600 --> 00:45:56.520
Dave: I'm sure it'll go.

00:45:57.700 --> 00:45:58.720
Ron: Plenty of room for it.

00:45:58.720 --> 00:46:00.040
Ron: A whole stack of pizza boxes.

00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:01.020
Ron: No doubt.

00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:02.460
Ron: Medium pizzas at that.

00:46:04.040 --> 00:46:05.100
Ron: Oh, all right.

00:46:05.100 --> 00:46:06.460
Ron: Well, are we, what else?

00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.180
Dave: Well, we were just going to talk about putting stuff away for the winter.

00:46:09.340 --> 00:46:09.680
Dave: That's right.

00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:11.100
Dave: It's that time of year again.

00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:12.180
Ron: I cut you off on that, don't I?

00:46:12.200 --> 00:46:12.580
Ron: I'm sorry.

00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:13.960
Dave: Yeah, I brought it up, though.

00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.380
Ron: It is about winter time.

00:46:16.380 --> 00:46:18.680
Dave: We need to talk about some sort of public service at some point.

00:46:19.420 --> 00:46:21.860
Ron: We're waiting until time gets back, because I, yeah.

00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.500
Dave: So, yeah, it's that time of year you kind of have to start putting stuff away.

00:46:25.580 --> 00:46:27.140
Dave: Do you put stuff away, or are you just?

00:46:27.680 --> 00:46:30.580
Ron: My stuff is mostly always put away.

00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.340
Ron: And I don't mean, like, stored well.

00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:38.360
Ron: Well, I mean, like, in an area where it won't damage itself if it sits.

00:46:38.500 --> 00:46:39.500
Dave: So, just put away for the winter.

00:46:39.740 --> 00:46:42.020
Dave: I mean, we fly year-round-ish.

00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.960
Ron: I mean, we, depending on what the actual temperature gets.

00:46:47.640 --> 00:46:49.340
Ron: I forgot you weenie out on everything.

00:46:49.340 --> 00:46:51.040
Ron: I do, because I get cold.

00:46:52.700 --> 00:46:57.500
Ron: But, like, normally, well, I did buy, I think, did I tell you, or did, whatever.

00:46:57.720 --> 00:46:58.840
Ron: I got one of those.

00:46:59.180 --> 00:47:00.220
Dave: You got one of the fancy socks?

00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:01.640
Ron: Yeah, pretty much.

00:47:01.640 --> 00:47:02.460
Ron: I guess that's all it is.

00:47:02.540 --> 00:47:02.820
Ron: You're right.

00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:08.220
Ron: But the winterized thing that you put your transmitter in, and you put your arms in to keep your hands.

00:47:08.300 --> 00:47:09.380
Ron: Those are nice when the wind's blowing.

00:47:09.780 --> 00:47:11.260
Ron: So, I've never used one before.

00:47:11.260 --> 00:47:16.400
Ron: So, I'll have to try it on a cheap airplane that I don't necessarily care about doinking if something happens.

00:47:16.540 --> 00:47:17.060
Ron: Old tricks.

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:17.840
Ron: Probably.

00:47:18.100 --> 00:47:20.700
Ron: That's exactly the one that I was thinking of when I said that.

00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:25.260
Ron: Just to see what it's like, because this one, where did I get it?

00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:27.060
Ron: I think I got it at one of the swap meets.

00:47:27.620 --> 00:47:29.700
Ron: I think I paid, like, 10 or 15 bucks for it.

00:47:29.780 --> 00:47:33.840
Dave: There's some really nice-looking wool-lined ones out there.

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:34.340
Ron: Yeah.

00:47:34.340 --> 00:47:37.700
Ron: I don't remember exactly what this is or where it is, to be honest, right now.

00:47:37.820 --> 00:47:38.820
Ron: I'm going to have to go look for it.

00:47:39.500 --> 00:47:42.560
Ron: But it's got the little window on top, so you can see what's going on.

00:47:42.680 --> 00:47:47.180
Ron: It's got the antenna hole out the back, so you can stick your antenna through it and not mess with signal.

00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:49.740
Ron: Yeah.

00:47:49.740 --> 00:47:52.020
Ron: I don't know where I was going with that whole story, or what we were even...

00:47:52.020 --> 00:47:52.980
Dave: Anyway, we fly during the winter.

00:47:53.120 --> 00:47:53.660
Ron: Fly during the winter.

00:47:53.700 --> 00:47:54.100
Ron: There we go.

00:47:54.200 --> 00:47:54.980
Ron: Thanks for bringing it home.

00:47:55.180 --> 00:47:55.320
Ron/Dave: Yeah.

00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:57.380
Dave: So, anyway, we do fly during the winter.

00:47:57.500 --> 00:47:59.240
Dave: But, you know, there's certain things, like the pup.

00:47:59.720 --> 00:48:01.740
Dave: I'm not going to freeze my fingers putting that thing together.

00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:02.220
Dave: No.

00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:05.660
Dave: And so, they get winterized and put away for the winter.

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.720
Ron: Well, some of the nitro ones get more difficult, too, also.

00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:09.860
Dave: They can be a little cranky.

00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:11.200
Dave: I think they're a little...

00:48:11.200 --> 00:48:11.560
Ron: It's a little cantankerous.

00:48:11.740 --> 00:48:16.820
Dave: I mean, I probably won't touch anything fuel-powered starting next month on.

00:48:17.120 --> 00:48:17.340
Ron: Yeah.

00:48:18.520 --> 00:48:19.880
Dave: So, that stuff gets put away.

00:48:20.200 --> 00:48:24.660
Dave: My stuff sits outside in an unheated, un-air-conditioned garage, not climate-controlled.

00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:26.640
Dave: And my stuff's been out there for 30 years.

00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:27.800
Ron: Yeah.

00:48:28.260 --> 00:48:30.420
Dave: I have a little bit of mass damage to the tire.

00:48:30.540 --> 00:48:32.060
Dave: Apparently, they have, like, T28 tires.

00:48:33.420 --> 00:48:37.060
Dave: But, other than that, I've never really had any problems with leaving stuff outside.

00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.760
Dave: I always make sure, though, I go out and I, when I try to remember, go out and collect all the receiver batteries.

00:48:43.860 --> 00:48:45.680
Dave: I don't like leaving the receiver batteries outside.

00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:47.880
Dave: All the nickel-metal hydride ones?

00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:49.100
Dave: Nickel-metal hydrides, yeah.

00:48:49.220 --> 00:48:49.780
Dave: I don't know.

00:48:50.060 --> 00:48:51.240
Dave: It's just the thing I've got.

00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.440
Dave: They're probably just fine because, I mean, we keep batteries in the refrigerator.

00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:57.830
Dave: What difference does it, if they're out in a 40-degree garage?

00:48:58.210 --> 00:49:00.850
Ron: Well, but during the winter, it will freeze.

00:49:01.090 --> 00:49:01.290
Ron: Yeah.

00:49:01.530 --> 00:49:04.050
Ron: And you're not, I mean, none of them really are good to be frozen.

00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:06.990
Dave: So, anyway, I try to go out and gather those up.

00:49:07.090 --> 00:49:15.550
Dave: And I always make sure, if anything that's been flown recently, I'll take and pull the plugs and throw oil in the motor and so forth.

00:49:16.030 --> 00:49:22.110
Dave: Just, and then kind of make a mental note of each of them going through any damage that occurred during the summer.

00:49:22.290 --> 00:49:24.450
Dave: It's like, man, I got a flying wire that snapped on that one.

00:49:24.450 --> 00:49:27.320
Dave: Or landing gear's a little loose on that one.

00:49:27.780 --> 00:49:30.660
Dave: Make those little notes and then try to get those repaired throughout the winter.

00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.220
Dave: And it's just that time of year to start putting our toys away.

00:49:35.560 --> 00:49:36.720
Dave: That makes me sad.

00:49:37.140 --> 00:49:40.980
Ron: Well, and because there's a lot of them that I haven't gotten to fly this year that I've wanted to.

00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:46.380
Ron: Like, I've got the, just looking over here at the Carden Yak, the Hangar 9 Carden Yak.

00:49:46.500 --> 00:49:47.480
Ron: So, that is ready to go.

00:49:47.600 --> 00:49:50.760
Ron: Like, I literally went through that in the spring, I think.

00:49:51.380 --> 00:49:52.660
Ron: Replaced all the fuel lines.

00:49:52.660 --> 00:49:55.100
Ron: You know, just did everything to where I know it's good now.

00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.900
Ron: Because I got that off of Tommy last year, I think.

00:49:58.720 --> 00:49:59.840
Ron: It's ready to play.

00:50:00.160 --> 00:50:01.660
Ron: I hope it was just last year.

00:50:02.680 --> 00:50:05.760
Ron: But I had to put a new receiver in it with a power expander board and all that kind of stuff.

00:50:05.820 --> 00:50:07.120
Ron: So, everything is set up and ready to go.

00:50:07.200 --> 00:50:07.920
Ron: It's all been programmed.

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:08.420
Ron: It's ready.

00:50:09.620 --> 00:50:11.740
Ron: I've just been lazy, I guess.

00:50:11.740 --> 00:50:13.320
Ron: I don't know what you would call it.

00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:15.680
Ron: But I just haven't had a chance to do anything.

00:50:16.060 --> 00:50:18.040
Ron: Well, and now, I guess, the more I think about it.

00:50:18.660 --> 00:50:20.000
Dave: So, I didn't have a vehicle.

00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.660
Dave: Yeah, you didn't have a vehicle big enough for that.

00:50:22.860 --> 00:50:24.280
Ron: Really, to take that anywhere.

00:50:25.100 --> 00:50:28.620
Ron: So, now that I do, I guess that will make it easier.

00:50:29.180 --> 00:50:29.360
Announcer: Yeah.

00:50:30.120 --> 00:50:30.740
Dave: So, yeah.

00:50:31.240 --> 00:50:31.860
Ron: I forgot.

00:50:31.860 --> 00:50:33.540
Ron: I bought another Expedition.

00:50:33.720 --> 00:50:36.040
Ron: A trustworthy Expedition now to where I can go.

00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:38.380
Dave: Yeah, I show up over here starting to look like an Expedition lot.

00:50:38.580 --> 00:50:40.080
Dave: We have, when you're here, we have three.

00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:40.460
Dave: Yeah.

00:50:41.900 --> 00:50:42.740
Ron: But that's okay.

00:50:42.940 --> 00:50:49.850
Ron: One of mine is good, and one of mine is a spare, just in case another car.

00:50:49.910 --> 00:50:52.410
Dave: I had the exact same model spare back in the day.

00:50:52.810 --> 00:50:53.990
Ron: I like it.

00:50:54.150 --> 00:50:54.990
Ron: I mean, like, I...

00:50:54.990 --> 00:50:57.170
Dave: Of all my Expeditions, I like that one the best.

00:50:57.330 --> 00:51:03.470
Ron: So, the one we're talking about is a 2000, 2000, yeah, 2000 Expedition, I don't know much about them.

00:51:03.670 --> 00:51:04.070
Ron: XLT.

00:51:04.070 --> 00:51:10.380
Ron: So, and that's a good running car, except it's got the exhaust leak, so it's embarrassing to drive.

00:51:10.520 --> 00:51:12.140
Dave: And it's rusted out like they all do.

00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:13.580
Ron: And it is complete...

00:51:13.580 --> 00:51:16.640
Ron: Like, I'm scared to get in and out of it that I'm going to give myself tetanus or something.

00:51:16.720 --> 00:51:18.600
Dave: Yeah, the first gen's rotted something horrible.

00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:20.540
Dave: But mechanically, it's still okay.

00:51:20.540 --> 00:51:23.640
Dave: It's just one I don't necessarily want to be seen driving.

00:51:24.680 --> 00:51:28.180
Dave: I'm driving around with a big chunk of paint missing off the hood of the Mustang right now, so...

00:51:28.180 --> 00:51:28.820
Dave: Well, that's all right.

00:51:30.100 --> 00:51:32.180
Ron: My other Expedition now has that, too.

00:51:32.580 --> 00:51:33.320
Ron: So, what is that one?

00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:35.460
Ron: It's a 2011 that I just got.

00:51:35.620 --> 00:51:36.040
Ron: So, it's...

00:51:36.040 --> 00:51:37.900
Ron: I don't know, trim levels.

00:51:38.160 --> 00:51:38.540
Ron: What is it?

00:51:38.600 --> 00:51:38.860
Ron: Do you know?

00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:39.920
Dave: I think that one's...

00:51:40.240 --> 00:51:41.320
Dave: That one, I think, is a limited.

00:51:41.620 --> 00:51:41.940
Dave: Limited.

00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:43.940
Dave: It's got the retractable landing gear, right?

00:51:44.120 --> 00:51:44.340
Ron: Yeah.

00:51:44.520 --> 00:51:44.700
Ron: Yeah.

00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:46.840
Ron: It's got the running boards that come out and stuff.

00:51:46.980 --> 00:51:53.340
Ron: So, it's nice because I can fold the seats down and get pretty much anything I own right now into it.

00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:53.620
Ron: Yeah.

00:51:54.220 --> 00:51:55.340
Ron: So, I don't have to worry about that.

00:51:55.380 --> 00:51:59.530
Ron: I just have not had a chance to take it out to either of the fields yet to fly stuff.

00:51:59.950 --> 00:52:02.350
Ron: So, next year should be a good year for flying.

00:52:02.350 --> 00:52:03.430
Ron: Yeah, we get a lot done.

00:52:03.790 --> 00:52:11.710
Ron: And that was the other thing, sadly enough, that made me decide to buy that was whenever the jet gets in.

00:52:11.910 --> 00:52:13.350
Dave: You got to have something to haul that in.

00:52:13.530 --> 00:52:15.590
Dave: I had to have something to bring it home in.

00:52:15.970 --> 00:52:20.190
Ron: Like, I was getting sick and tired of, hey, Tommy, what are you doing?

00:52:20.250 --> 00:52:21.030
Ron: Hey, Dave, what are you doing?

00:52:21.090 --> 00:52:23.650
Ron: You want to run up to the Brian shop so I can go shopping?

00:52:23.910 --> 00:52:27.770
Ron: Like, finally, I'm self-sufficient and don't have to worry about it.

00:52:27.770 --> 00:52:31.890
Dave: So, I'm just sitting here getting sad about fall and putting stuff away.

00:52:32.150 --> 00:52:35.950
Dave: Then I get thinking about our listeners from Southern California and Texas.

00:52:36.670 --> 00:52:37.110
Ron: Yeah.

00:52:37.770 --> 00:52:39.710
Ron: At least we don't have to fight rattlesnakes around here.

00:52:39.850 --> 00:52:41.830
Ron: I would not be happy about that.

00:52:42.370 --> 00:52:43.270
Dave: I'm not a snake guy.

00:52:43.270 --> 00:52:44.750
Dave: Just get the year-round flying, man.

00:52:44.970 --> 00:52:45.710
Ron: That would be nice.

00:52:45.890 --> 00:52:46.290
Ron: But, you know.

00:52:46.550 --> 00:52:49.290
Dave: Then we got our Canadian friends that are already shut down.

00:52:50.620 --> 00:52:51.420
Dave: No, they're not.

00:52:51.500 --> 00:52:53.180
Dave: Actually, the weather looks pretty nice up there right now.

00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.340
Ron: It's funny, though, how you're right.

00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:00.240
Ron: Like, we're getting kind of mopey about the winter hitting and fall and the cold weather.

00:53:00.420 --> 00:53:02.700
Ron: But some people are coming out of it now.

00:53:02.700 --> 00:53:04.640
Ron: And they're going into their summer down in Australia.

00:53:04.740 --> 00:53:06.380
Ron: We got our Australian and New Zealand listeners.

00:53:06.580 --> 00:53:06.760
Ron: Yeah.

00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:11.260
Ron: They don't understand our plight because they're getting ready to go.

00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:12.700
Ron: But everything down there wants to kill them.

00:53:13.020 --> 00:53:14.440
Dave: That's true, too.

00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.440
Dave: And I don't like things that like to kill me other than my wife.

00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:20.440
Ron: But, no.

00:53:20.660 --> 00:53:23.540
Ron: So, is that all you do, then, is just kind of pull your batteries?

00:53:23.540 --> 00:53:27.740
Dave: I just pull the batteries and make notes of whatever needs minor repairs.

00:53:28.420 --> 00:53:34.940
Dave: You know, sometimes you will pass over that little nick in the covering that it's fine.

00:53:34.940 --> 00:53:35.900
Dave: It's not going anywhere.

00:53:36.140 --> 00:53:37.560
Dave: But, hey, I got a little time for the winter.

00:53:37.660 --> 00:53:38.680
Dave: Let's get that patched up.

00:53:39.260 --> 00:53:39.480
Ron: Yeah.

00:53:39.700 --> 00:53:42.180
Ron: It's, I guess, good to have a little bit of downtime.

00:53:42.780 --> 00:53:45.920
Ron: I enjoy the building season slash flying season.

00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:49.340
Ron: I mean, it's good to kind of reset and make sure you go through things.

00:53:49.560 --> 00:53:52.360
Ron: Like, I really need to go make a list of airplanes to get rid of.

00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:54.240
Ron: I know I've said that before.

00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.860
Ron: But it's to the point where I need to room-wise.

00:53:57.940 --> 00:53:58.480
Dave: I have to.

00:53:58.600 --> 00:54:00.380
Dave: I cannot store an additional airplane.

00:54:00.620 --> 00:54:00.800
Ron: Yeah.

00:54:01.460 --> 00:54:11.080
Ron: Well, I mean, winter is coming, which means, for me, this basement area is going to become Christmas area.

00:54:11.080 --> 00:54:13.580
Ron: This is where we put up the tree and all that kind of stuff.

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.680
Ron: That's not possible right now.

00:54:16.940 --> 00:54:18.840
Ron: No, there's a little tidying that needs to be done.

00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.200
Ron: There's a lot of airplanes that need to go away somewhere else.

00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.620
Ron: So, I guess I got more this year than I thought.

00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:31.840
Dave: Well, I don't have anything I'm working on currently except for Reggie projects.

00:54:32.120 --> 00:54:33.560
Dave: Oh, it's always a Reggie project.

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.400
Dave: Yeah, I got to get this Mustang on my house.

00:54:36.940 --> 00:54:38.420
Dave: This thing's 150 size.

00:54:38.600 --> 00:54:39.880
Dave: It barely fits in my workroom.

00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:41.240
Dave: So, it's a big one.

00:54:41.380 --> 00:54:42.060
Dave: It's a big one.

00:54:42.200 --> 00:54:43.060
Ron: What's he got you doing on that?

00:54:43.060 --> 00:54:46.620
Dave: He's putting one of Brian's cockpit kits in it.

00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:48.340
Dave: It's a big project.

00:54:48.520 --> 00:54:51.120
Dave: You got to relocate all the servos and move everything around.

00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:53.040
Ron: Why doesn't he do anything like that?

00:54:54.540 --> 00:54:55.660
Dave: Hey, I need the money.

00:54:56.560 --> 00:54:57.220
Ron: Oh, okay.

00:54:57.240 --> 00:55:01.440
Ron: So, it's not just out of the goodness of my heart I'm doing this for you?

00:55:02.020 --> 00:55:05.060
Dave: Reggie pays for a lot of my swap meet money.

00:55:05.340 --> 00:55:06.520
Dave: Oh, well, good for him.

00:55:07.140 --> 00:55:09.460
Ron: Why doesn't he pay for my swap meet money?

00:55:09.700 --> 00:55:11.840
Ron: Oh, that's right, because I won't do anything for him.

00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:15.050
Ron: He, like, I understand that, but he needs to learn.

00:55:15.190 --> 00:55:16.170
Ron: Like, he needs to...

00:55:16.170 --> 00:55:17.710
Ron: He's doing a lot better.

00:55:17.950 --> 00:55:18.250
Ron: Is he?

00:55:18.430 --> 00:55:20.410
Ron: He actually fixed that landing gear on his own.

00:55:21.130 --> 00:55:23.230
Ron: You keep saying he's doing better, but I'm just...

00:55:23.230 --> 00:55:23.870
Ron: He really is.

00:55:24.230 --> 00:55:26.190
Dave: I don't blame him on this cockpit kit.

00:55:26.390 --> 00:55:27.810
Dave: I mean, it's a real fiddly...

00:55:27.810 --> 00:55:30.130
Dave: I hate working with vacuum form, and...

00:55:30.870 --> 00:55:31.950
Dave: Vacuum form sucks.

00:55:32.230 --> 00:55:33.830
Ron: Yeah, it's kind of...

00:55:34.540 --> 00:55:35.600
Ron: What's the word I'm looking for?

00:55:35.720 --> 00:55:36.640
Ron: It's wibbly-wobbly.

00:55:37.220 --> 00:55:38.380
Dave: Yeah, I mean...

00:55:38.380 --> 00:55:39.420
Dave: Until it's supported well.

00:55:39.560 --> 00:55:40.980
Dave: I've gotten good at working with it.

00:55:40.980 --> 00:55:42.320
Dave: I just hate working with it.

00:55:42.520 --> 00:55:42.720
Ron: Yeah.

00:55:42.860 --> 00:55:44.780
Dave: And so I don't blame him, so...

00:55:44.780 --> 00:55:45.840
Dave: And he wants it look good.

00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.520
Dave: We finally found a new canopy for it, so that's a big project off my book.

00:55:49.540 --> 00:55:51.180
Dave: I don't have to figure out how to repair this canopy.

00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:52.140
Ron: Well, that's good.

00:55:52.740 --> 00:55:55.200
Dave: Although I haven't opened the box to see if it fits, but we'll see.

00:55:56.600 --> 00:55:58.260
Ron: It's always something with him, that's for sure.

00:55:59.100 --> 00:55:59.280
Ron: Yeah.

00:55:59.820 --> 00:56:01.840
Ron: See if we can talk about him like that now, because he's not here.

00:56:01.860 --> 00:56:02.080
Dave: He's not here.

00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:03.060
Dave: He's in work, you know...

00:56:03.080 --> 00:56:06.000
Ron: Although I'd say the exact same things to his face, so...

00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:06.160
Ron: Yeah.

00:56:06.160 --> 00:56:06.460
Ron: Or whatever.

00:56:08.060 --> 00:56:13.180
Dave: He flew my paramotor up at Streeter several times.

00:56:13.520 --> 00:56:15.240
Dave: I taught him how to do touch and goes with it.

00:56:15.520 --> 00:56:16.220
Dave: Oh, nice.

00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:18.460
Dave: And I took like four tries, and he did all right.

00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:20.120
Ron: Did he ever get his together?

00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:20.760
Dave: No.

00:56:21.200 --> 00:56:21.780
Ron: Of course not.

00:56:21.860 --> 00:56:22.180
Ron: I'm sorry.

00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:23.520
Ron: Did you ever get his together?

00:56:24.300 --> 00:56:24.700
Dave: No.

00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:26.000
Ron: Oh.

00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:27.500
Ron: We'll get there.

00:56:27.580 --> 00:56:28.040
Ron: We'll get there.

00:56:28.340 --> 00:56:29.600
Ron: Yeah, you have winter to do it now.

00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:34.400
Dave: Seriously, a nice Sunday afternoon, and that thing will be ready to go.

00:56:34.720 --> 00:56:35.980
Dave: It's that easy to do.

00:56:36.300 --> 00:56:36.480
Ron: Yeah.

00:56:36.640 --> 00:56:39.500
Dave: Just assemble the little cart and program the radio.

00:56:40.220 --> 00:56:40.480
Ron: Yeah.

00:56:41.240 --> 00:56:46.580
Ron: I mean, it didn't look like it was going to be hard, but I know that he wasn't doing any of it, so...

00:56:46.580 --> 00:56:48.040
Dave: It'd be kind of fun to get two of them up there.

00:56:48.140 --> 00:56:49.200
Dave: I'm kind of...

00:56:49.620 --> 00:56:50.920
Ron: I need to push him along on that.

00:56:51.080 --> 00:56:52.400
Ron: You need to get better lights for it.

00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:53.940
Ron: I need better lights, yeah.

00:56:53.940 --> 00:56:55.960
Ron: The ones that we saw at Joe Null...

00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:58.860
Dave: My nav lights work for me, but the canopy lights don't.

00:56:59.180 --> 00:57:02.960
Ron: Yeah, so the ones at Joe Null were literally like night flyers, like pitch black.

00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:06.660
Ron: You could see where it was going, which way it was facing, and it looked really cool.

00:57:06.900 --> 00:57:08.820
Dave: Yeah, I have five pathetic white LEDs.

00:57:09.220 --> 00:57:09.440
Ron: Yeah.

00:57:09.620 --> 00:57:10.600
Ron: I don't know what I was thinking.

00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:13.840
Ron: You need like two really good white LEDs is fine.

00:57:14.040 --> 00:57:14.840
Ron: A big strip.

00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:15.620
Ron: Yeah.

00:57:16.980 --> 00:57:17.540
Ron: Oh, well.

00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:20.160
Ron: Anything else?

00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:21.000
Ron: Let me know.

00:57:21.140 --> 00:57:22.680
Ron: I didn't know if you were done with winterizing or not.

00:57:23.220 --> 00:57:30.620
Dave: No, that's pretty much all I do is go through my stuff, organize it, and of course your batteries, I have to take and cycle those throughout the winter sporadically.

00:57:32.180 --> 00:57:32.820
Ron: Your NIMH?

00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:35.920
Dave: Nickel metal hydrides, and I do that with my lipos, too.

00:57:36.300 --> 00:57:37.560
Dave: Just keep them exercised.

00:57:38.020 --> 00:57:38.260
Ron: Really?

00:57:38.380 --> 00:57:49.860
Dave: Now, the ones I fly on, the stuff I fly during the winter, I don't pay too much attention to, but there's a few special batteries I just fly on certain airplanes, and those don't get flown during the winter, and I'll make sure to exercise those a little bit.

00:57:49.860 --> 00:57:52.980
Dave: So, charge and then discharge, or?

00:57:53.100 --> 00:57:53.300
Dave: Yeah.

00:57:53.720 --> 00:57:54.580
Ron: That's a pain.

00:57:55.620 --> 00:57:56.060
Dave: Yeah.

00:57:56.260 --> 00:58:00.180
Dave: And I'm really bad about using the storage charge situation.

00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:02.900
Dave: I don't know.

00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:06.720
Dave: I just tend to charge everything up and throw them in the box, which is bad for them.

00:58:06.720 --> 00:58:07.160
Dave: I know.

00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:07.580
Dave: I know.

00:58:07.580 --> 00:58:08.140
Dave: I'm bad.

00:58:09.420 --> 00:58:17.260
Ron: So, I'm okay doing that with, like, the little one-cell batteries that are six bucks a piece, but the ones that are $125 a piece, I would like to take care of.

00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:22.440
Dave: I still get two, three years out of them easily, so I don't think it makes a huge difference.

00:58:23.580 --> 00:58:28.080
Dave: Every winter, it seems like I lose one or two batteries, and they're usually the older ones in the batch.

00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:28.600
Ron: Yeah.

00:58:30.820 --> 00:58:33.920
Dave: But anyway, I try to exercise them a little bit just to keep things moving.

00:58:34.260 --> 00:58:34.920
Ron: Well, that's good.

00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.340
Ron: You're a step ahead of me, because I pack them away and forget about them.

00:58:38.420 --> 00:58:42.320
Ron: So, but I do keep mine at storage charge, only because they automatically do that.

00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:47.060
Dave: All my bigger batteries are still on the bad air things, and that's nice.

00:58:47.500 --> 00:58:47.740
Ron: Yeah.

00:58:47.740 --> 00:58:58.640
Dave: I wasn't, I know a lot of people had trouble with the bad airs, but they were predominantly on the smaller batteries, and I typically don't use those on the smaller batteries anyway, because I just don't like the extra weight or size in the airplane.

00:58:58.900 --> 00:58:59.940
Ron: Yeah, and I get that.

00:59:00.080 --> 00:59:10.800
Ron: Like, I did lose a couple of the smaller ones, like 1300, 3S 1300s, and we talked about that before, and that's just, they do have a little bit of parasitic drain on them.

00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:14.360
Dave: Yep, and you just got to either play the game or pay for it.

00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:18.400
Dave: But I think once you know that, it's not as big of a deal.

00:59:18.740 --> 00:59:22.080
Dave: Yeah, it's like, oh, it's been a couple months, I need to pull it out and charge it.

00:59:22.240 --> 00:59:29.460
Ron: Yeah, so if you can make a mental note to actually keep that going and do it every two or three months, it'll be fine.

00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:30.040
Dave: Yeah.

00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.780
Ron: I mean, like, the small one I lost literally was one that I had never even flown.

00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:41.020
Ron: It was brand new, but it sat for about a year, and I mean, I didn't even look at it in that amount of time.

00:59:41.020 --> 00:59:45.920
Dave: My 4-cell in my flight box, that battery is puffy two days after I bought it.

00:59:46.120 --> 00:59:46.360
Ron: Yeah.

00:59:47.040 --> 00:59:48.920
Dave: But I leave that bad air on it all the time.

00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:53.720
Dave: I charge it once, maybe twice a year, depending on how much I'm using my starter.

00:59:54.020 --> 00:59:54.220
Ron: Yeah.

00:59:54.980 --> 00:59:55.700
Dave: No problems.

00:59:56.200 --> 00:59:56.880
Ron: Well, that's good.

00:59:58.400 --> 00:59:59.880
Ron: Okay, I think I've had enough.

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:00.500
Ron: Have you had enough?

01:00:00.640 --> 01:00:01.260
Ron: I'm sick of you.

01:00:01.340 --> 01:00:01.660
Ron: Let's go.

01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.260
Ron: All right, well, thanks, everybody, for listening.

01:00:04.420 --> 01:00:05.880
Ron: Dave has to leave because he's sick of me.

01:00:06.120 --> 01:00:07.640
Ron: So until next time, I'm Ron.

01:00:08.080 --> 01:00:08.800
Ron: And I'm Dave.

01:00:08.980 --> 01:00:09.520
Ron: Good night.

01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:10.240
Ron: Night.

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