Ep 100: The 100th Episode!

Episode 100 · Originally released May 13, 2022 · Hosts: Ron, Tom, Crystal, and Lori

Crystal and Lori join Ron and Tom to celebrate the podcast’s 100th episode with flying plans, listener photos, Lori’s upcoming ARF build, new airplanes, and plenty of good-natured studio banter.

In this episode

Join us for the main discussion, practical takeaways, and stories from this episode of RC Plane Lab.

Chapters

00:50 — Celebrating 100 episodes with Crystal and Lori

03:15 — The July break and summer flying plans

10:00 — Sharing listener airplane photos on the website

20:13 — Lori’s first ARF build and learning independently

30:03 — Covering materials and personal preferences

40:13 — New airplanes, engines, and electric power choices

50:07 — True Turn spinners and other hobby news

Episode Topics

  • The podcast reaches its 100th episode
  • Taking a summer break to spend more time flying
  • Listener airplane photos and the RC Plane Lab community
  • Lori’s plans for her first ARF build
  • Covering choices, new airplanes, and power systems
  • True Turn spinner production news

Key Takeaways

  • Reaching 100 episodes gives the hosts and their wives a chance to reflect and celebrate together.
  • A first airplane build is more rewarding when the builder has room to learn, ask questions, and make decisions.
  • The conversation mixes practical RC airplane experience with the relaxed humor that defines the show.

Episode 100 Transcript

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[00:00:00] Hello, everyone, and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast, our 100th episode. I'm Tom.

[00:00:06] Did he say podcast? No, he said podcast. I didn't hear the D. These are really, really bad earphone things.

[00:00:14] I'm sorry. I mean, it was more quiet, but he did say the, I would think.

[00:00:18] I thought I said podcast.

[00:00:19] You're doing a great job. You are. You are.

[00:00:21] Ron's just a dick. So that's what we tell people at work when they're not doing a great job. We tell them, you're doing a great job. So thanks.

[00:00:29] You're so special. You're doing a great job. You pat him on the head. Ron's just being a dick. That's all. You're doing a great job. Oh. Okay. Are we ready? We're ready.

[00:00:38] Okay. Shush.

[00:00:50] Hello, everyone, and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast, our 100th episode. I'm Tom.

[00:00:57] I'm Ron. I'm Lori. And I'm Crystal. And the wheels are already off.

[00:01:01] The wheels are, the train is already off the track.

[00:01:04] The train has left the station.

[00:01:06] Our 100th episode.

[00:01:07] Can you believe it?

[00:01:08] I really can't believe it. I can. Really? I don't know how to take that. I'm not sure what she's trying to say, but.

[00:01:15] I think we believe in you guys. Yeah.

[00:01:19] That's not what.

[00:01:19] That was not a. The impression I got. Feels like it's been forever. It feels like it.

[00:01:25] It's because I listen to them often, and there's a lot of content. So, yes. I can believe it's the 100th episode.

[00:01:31] Nice recovery. Yeah. Crystal, what do you think of all the episodes you listen to?

[00:01:36] The ones that I have listened to are really good.

[00:01:40] I enjoy them. Wait. The two that she was in. Those are the ones she's listened to.

[00:01:44] That's only because she was here when she recorded it. Yeah. Well, this is number three you get to experience, so we like it, yeah. We talk about RC airplanes and stuff. Oh, do you? I didn't know that.

[00:01:54] Mostly we talk about airplanes and never knowing what else is going to come out of our mouths.

[00:02:00] So, what are we talking about today?

[00:02:01] So, I figured we'd just kind of relax this episode. We've got the wives on to help us celebrate our 100th episode.

[00:02:08] Hello, ladies. Hello. Welcome to the show.

[00:02:10] Lori and Crystal, welcome to the show, ladies. Thank you. Yeah. So, we're just going to relax, and hopefully it's not too boring. For our five listeners that actually listen to us.

[00:02:20] Why do you go to five? You do that several. You've done that a lot.

[00:02:23] First of all, I'm not boring.

[00:02:26] That's absolutely true.

[00:02:27] I am not boring. This show will not be boring.

[00:02:30] There you go. I go to five because, I don't know, it's an easy number. I don't know.

[00:02:34] Usually it's three.

[00:02:35] Is it three? I always thought, maybe. Maybe it's three. I don't know.

[00:02:39] No, you say five a lot. And it's like, why? I just think it's funny.

[00:02:45] I'm just trying to be funny. I apologize if it's not. What do you think, Crystal?

[00:02:51] Crystal's like, oh, I wasn't listening.

[00:02:52] Should I say seven instead of five, maybe? I don't know. Five's good. Are seven listeners? Does that have more impact if I say seven or two?

[00:03:02] Maybe you should just bump it to ten.

[00:03:04] Oh, double digits. Yeah. I think that might be optimistic.

[00:03:08] So, before we, don't talk about anything the whole episode, we have a few announcements to make.

[00:03:15] We do.

[00:03:15] One of which is we're taking July off.

[00:03:19] Yeah. You guys okay with that? Sure.

[00:03:22] Would you even notice? I mean…

[00:03:27] Yes. Yes, I will notice. Okay.

[00:03:29] Yeah, we're going to take July off so that we can fly, hopefully, if the wind dies down around here. It's the windiest it's been, like…

[00:03:36] Windy? And we went from a high in the low 50s, was it? Last week. Yeah, like Friday or something. Friday. Yeah. And it was 93 today.

[00:03:46] So, the whole week's in the 90s, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:03:49] Felt like 103. That was the heat index.

[00:03:53] I think it was the first time I sweated outside this year.

[00:03:56] Yeah.

[00:03:57] I can see why.

[00:03:58] It was hot and humid. Ron does not like to sweat.

[00:04:01] I don't like to sweat at all. No. No.

[00:04:03] Which is why we're all wearing sweatshirts.

[00:04:06] Except for me. And a t-shirt. Yes, I am comfortable.

[00:04:08] T-shirt and underwear.

[00:04:09] And actually, it's funny because it's… Well, I hope we're all wearing underwear, maybe underneath what we're actually on the outside. But anyway, it's a good thing we didn't record yesterday when I came down here because I had forgotten to close the vents and it was like 55 degrees. Oh, my goodness. Like, it was cold for even me.

[00:04:26] That's perfect sleeping weather for me. Yeah. Good sleeping weather. Way too cold. Yeah. I start to shiver. To try to concentrate on something.

[00:04:32] You do shiver a lot. But… why you shiver, right? Because she's cold?

[00:04:37] Yeah, she's cold.

[00:04:37] I mean, do why the body's reaction is to shiver? To generate heat.

[00:04:42] Yeah.

[00:04:42] Nice.

[00:04:43] Because she's cold.

[00:04:44] Because she's cold. Yeah, exactly. To make her not cold. Right. Well, this episode is smashing.

[00:04:48] Well, that's… So when… I don't know why the 55 reminded me. When Tommy and I went to Dayton, it was not Dayton. Toledo. Toledo. Yeah. I get those confused for some reason. It was nice because we both like it really cold at night when we sleep. So we had the air conditioner as low as it would go and on high. 62, I believe it was. Yes. And it was nice. You're welcome.

[00:05:10] I conditioned him.

[00:05:11] Yeah, like I don't get that here as much as I would like to. I get like 67, 68 is the lowest I can go.

[00:05:19] I can sleep in 67, but I prefer it a little colder. Me too. Yeah. Well, and you even put a fan on so that makes it feel colder too. So that's what it's come to. Talk about our sleeping preferences here on the podcast.

[00:05:33] So we're taking July off, as we were talking about. And there's a few reasons for that. Like we need a break. We want a break.

[00:05:41] Well, we've been recording a lot lately with the guest episodes or the interviews and our regular bi-weekly episodes. Yeah, it's been a lot of work.

[00:05:50] There has been a lot going into it, which more than I expected.

[00:05:54] Yeah.

[00:05:54] But it's fine in the winter time.

[00:05:57] Especially on your end because you do all the work.

[00:05:59] Well, when it comes time to cutting grass and doing all that stuff now, I just don't have as much time. So winter is fun, but I want to go fly and do some stuff. So you're going to be out of town for a while in June.

[00:06:11] Yeah, I've got a work trip coming up for June. So that is a contributing factor to taking July off because I just simply won't be around.

[00:06:18] Like a lot of June. Yeah, about half. 19 days. You're going to Hawaii again. Yeah. Oh, nice. For work. I didn't know that. Yeah. By himself, though.

[00:06:26] Yeah, I'm not going this time.

[00:06:28] Oh, come on.

[00:06:29] Because?

[00:06:30] Because I leave the 22nd for Germany.

[00:06:34] Oh.

[00:06:34] So for the whole month of June, we will literally see each other maybe three or four days. Oh, my gosh. That is amazing.

[00:06:41] Wait, no. That's not what I mean.

[00:06:42] Well, we're kind of used to that kind of thing because he travels for work. And earlier in our marriage, he was gone a few months at a time. Yeah.

[00:06:52] That's how you keep things fresh.

[00:06:53] Well, I think that's probably why we've been married so long.

[00:06:55] Maybe. It could be. Like, I don't know why Crystal still puts up with me, to be honest. Me too.

[00:07:00] Well, I can go on vacation.

[00:07:03] What?

[00:07:03] I can go on vacation. She can go to Hawaii with Tom. Oh, there you go. I mean, that might be a little weird, but I'll go.

[00:07:09] That's fine.

[00:07:10] I mean, I'm not sure how I feel about that.

[00:07:14] Depends what you do while you're there, I suppose.

[00:07:16] Well, I'll be working. I'll go to the beach. So there you go. Yeah, you go to the beach like Lori did when we were there.

[00:07:21] I toured every beach in Oahu. That would be nice. Nice. It was my goal to pick one every day and just lay there all day.

[00:07:28] So we're taking all of July off.

[00:07:30] Yeah, so there will be no new episodes coming out in July, but if you need to get your RC plane lab pics, you can always go to our website.

[00:07:38] And why would you do that?

[00:07:40] Oh, there's so much good stuff on there. There's airplane pictures. There's our dualist build logs. I mean, all kinds of stuff to look at there.

[00:07:47] What else?

[00:07:48] Well, there's lots of other stuff.

[00:07:50] Yeah, I'm quizzing him right now.

[00:07:53] Oh. So, yeah, we've got our build logs. You've got the electric motor selection criteria. Yeah, that page. Thank you. Well, we've got listener airplane photos on there. I think I already said that.

[00:08:08] Yeah. There's the forum, right?

[00:08:10] Yeah, we also have a Discord forum if you want to get on there and chat with us.

[00:08:14] Yeah, Discord is good. The forums have kind of failed. Like, that's kind of on me, too, though, like on us. Well, me, too, because I didn't put much on it. Yeah, it's just another thing. It's time.

[00:08:24] Do what else is on the website? What's that? Previous Tools of the Week.

[00:08:27] Oh, yeah.

[00:08:28] Do you remember Tools of the Week?

[00:08:29] Yeah, we used to do that.

[00:08:31] Well, we kind of ran out of tools, honestly.

[00:08:34] That's kind of what I felt like. Like, I thought we'd have a long list of things.

[00:08:37] And honestly, I sort of felt like most of the tools of the week that I was bringing up were tools that were, like, no longer available. Which you couldn't get anymore. So it was almost like after I went back and listened to, like, one or two of them, I was like, it sounds kind of like I'm rubbing it in their faces. I've got one of these, and you can't get it anymore. And that's totally not what it was about.

[00:08:56] This is the tool that you need to do this. But, by the way, you can't get it anymore. This tool is so awesome.

[00:09:02] But, sorry. Sorry. Yeah, I've got one, and you don't.

[00:09:06] So then what do they use if you don't have that tool?

[00:09:10] Well, it depends on the tool we're talking about, I suppose.

[00:09:12] A lot of things I've seen online, people are designing their own tools and 3D printing them. Yeah. Which is pretty neat, too.

[00:09:19] Which is fine if you just have one or two to do.

[00:09:22] Yeah, and if you have a 3D printer.

[00:09:25] And you have to have a 3D printer and some knowledge of how to use it. Oh, like a 3D printer?

[00:09:28] Yeah, you do have to have a 3D printer.

[00:09:30] That's what he said.

[00:09:31] That's what you said, too.

[00:09:32] But after he said that. Not 2Ds, but 3Ds. Oh, did you say 2D? No, nobody said 2Ds.

[00:09:37] What are you saying about? Welcome to the conversation. Who's on first?

[00:09:43] What is on second? We should have thought about this first. Well, we did. That's what this is.

[00:09:52] He said 3D. Like, to make it on a 3D machine.

[00:09:56] A 3D machine, yes.

[00:09:57] A printer.

[00:09:57] Yes, he did.

[00:10:00] Hey, speaking of 3D printers, and totally off topic, but I like pictures of airplanes. So, if you guys want to have us put pictures of airplanes on our website, email them to Ron so he can put them on there.

[00:10:19] You can also download a printable pre-flight checklist. Download the plans to build the Sandpiper. A profile foamy designed to be cut from one piece of Dollar Tree foam board and more. Oh, my.

[00:10:33] That totally didn't sound like you just read that. And she is not reading that from a script, folks.

[00:10:38] Oh. Let's reset. But wait, there's more.

[00:10:42] A bit of a technical question. If somebody posts a picture of something on our Discord, is it easy to take that and just put it on our website? Or would you prefer an email image?

[00:10:53] Email it to me.

[00:10:53] Okay. Because probably, what, higher res?

[00:10:56] Well, more so that way I know and kind of have an email saying, hey, put this on there kind of thing. So, I'm not stealing pictures. Got it. Not that anybody would care, I don't think.

[00:11:05] Yeah, I mean, there are RC airplanes. But we've gotten some pretty cool pictures on the Discord, and I'd like to add them to our website if we could. So, if you've put some pictures on Discord, email them to ron or tom at rcplanalab.com, and Ron will put them on the website.

[00:11:20] Don't email him to Tom. He's going to be like, I don't know what to do with this.

[00:11:23] I'll just forward it to Ron.

[00:11:24] So, just email it to Ron. So, I got an email from the AMA about a survey. Did you get that, by the way? I meant to ask you that before we sat down.

[00:11:35] I have not checked my email today, but I may have gotten one.

[00:11:39] I'm not sure. It was four days ago, I think. As of yesterday, I had not gotten one. It was the AMA Pulse survey. There was a few questions in there that regarding they just wanted to know, like, things about us as modelers and what we've kind of been doing. And if we would recommend the AMA to a friend, and if so, why? And if not, what could they do to improve? Maybe they already know Tom's opinion.

[00:12:01] That's why they didn't ask him. Yeah.

[00:12:02] Well, that's why I don't know, like, if, when they do that, I don't know if it goes to every single person, or maybe they do it, like, randomly. Yeah, like, a quarter of our people get it this quarter, and the next quarter we go another set. But anyway.

[00:12:16] Oh, that's interesting. I'll check real quick.

[00:12:18] Oh, this is making great episode fodder. I do not have it. Well, that was actually quicker than I expected it to be.

[00:12:27] So, yeah, I didn't get that. So, it must be either a random or a targeted audience.

[00:12:32] Yeah, it could be.

[00:12:33] I don't know why they would, I mean, because your interests and mine are pretty close, I would say.

[00:12:39] Yeah, we probably would have filled it out the same way as if I just did it myself.

[00:12:45] Mm-hmm. So, anyway. Mm-hmm.

[00:12:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:12:49] Cats.

[00:12:50] And we go completely off the side of the building and talk about having cats.

[00:12:54] Yeah, we got two.

[00:12:56] Crystal, for some reason, has worn me down. She wanted one cat.

[00:13:01] And then I read, getting two at the same time is better.

[00:13:04] And then I gave up arguing, just said, go get cats.

[00:13:06] Yeah.

[00:13:08] We had a cat once. We did. She was the best cat ever.

[00:13:11] Yep. And so, we decided to end it there and just stop.

[00:13:13] We didn't get any more cats after her.

[00:13:15] I remember that cat.

[00:13:16] Mm-hmm. She's a great cat. She was a good cat. Hopefully, your cats are as good.

[00:13:19] They're really sweet.

[00:13:21] Like, I didn't know you didn't have a cat still.

[00:13:23] Really?

[00:13:24] Am I that bad of a friend that I don't remember this stuff?

[00:13:27] It's been a while. You don't remember that we had a cat? No, I know that you had a cat.

[00:13:29] I remember the cat, but I don't remember the fact that you don't have a cat right now.

[00:13:32] So, yeah, this year, she would be like 28 years old.

[13:36] UNKNOWN: Has it really been that long?

[00:13:38] It's probably been at least eight years. Yeah. No. Yeah.

[00:13:41] I remember seeing the cat going from room to room in your house.

[00:13:45] Oh, yeah. It's probably been longer than that because I think Casey was still living at home.

[00:13:49] Yeah. Wow.

[00:13:50] Yeah.

[00:13:51] It's been a while. Yeah.

[00:13:52] Okay. Well, mark that up on bad friend territory.

[00:13:54] Hopefully, your cats are as good as our cat was. Ginger was a fantastic cat. And she never messed with my airplanes. Nope. That's my fear. So, hopefully, yeah, your cats, plural, will not mess with your airplanes.

[00:14:07] She didn't jump up on counters.

[00:14:09] That's nice.

[00:14:10] Did you have to train her? No.

[00:14:11] No. She just never did it. She just never. Yeah. Okay. Well, she was kind of large, too. Not at first.

[00:14:18] Not at first. She wasn't big at first,.

[00:14:21] That's funny.

[00:14:22] And then we got her fixed, and she was like, I give up.

[00:14:24] Yeah. Ours were fixed when we got them because we got them from the APL, Animal Protective League. And I don't think they give out any animals that aren't, honestly.

[00:14:35] No, probably not. Yeah, I don't think they do. Yeah, I don't think they do.

[00:14:37] Because I know the pound is the same way. They're always neutered or otherwise, what is it? Sanitized?

[00:14:45] Sanitized? Sanitized. Sterilized. There we go.

[00:14:49] Sterilized. That's it. Sterilized. Sanitized. Sterilized.

[00:14:53] Wow.

[00:14:54] Sterilized means, yeah, that you're sterile. Cannot reproduce.

[00:14:59] Yeah. So, yeah. However, sanitized is a completely different meaning.

[00:15:02] Clean.

[00:15:03] Yes. Yeah, your cats were cleaned. Yes. They probably should have been, I hope. Well, I hope so. They should have sanitized before they did the procedure.

[00:15:09] What did you name the kittens? Did Piper name them?

[00:15:12] We haven't renamed them yet. Oh. Oh, okay. But I kind of like them. It's Otta Holland.

[00:15:19] That's not a mouthful at all.

[00:15:21] And Sweetie.

[00:15:22] Sweetie's cute. Sweetie. The other one definitely needs a new name.

[00:15:26] See, of the two, I would rename Sweetie because Crystal calls everything Sweetie and that's confusing.

[00:15:32] It's not really like naming, putting that name to every animal, but it's more like, oh, come here. Oh, you're such a Sweetie, kind of like that.

[00:15:40] Yeah.

[00:15:40] But I'm trying to break the habit of that. So.

[00:15:42] Do you ever call Ron Sweetie? That's usually Idiot. Or A-Hole?

[00:15:47] No, Idiot's my go-to. Which one? Idiot.

[00:15:52] Yeah.

[00:15:54] You're an idiot.

[00:15:56] Yes. I mean, that is. I hear that so many times a day, it's not even funny.

[00:16:00] It really flows, though.

[00:16:01] It's not that bad. I know, right?

[00:16:02] Exactly. With such ease.

[00:16:04] Yes.

[00:16:05] Apparently, she does it a lot.

[00:16:06] Yeah, the more you do it, the easier it gets. That's a term of endearment. I mean, that's. Sure. I love you in her speak.

[00:16:13] That's how I take it, at least. Yeah. In her language, you're an idiot, is I really, really dig you.

[00:16:19] Yeah. Dig you?

[00:16:21] Welcome to the 60s. Well, I am older, remember?

[00:16:23] Can you dig it?

[00:16:24] He wasn't alive in the 60s, just FYI.

[00:16:30] 70s, I know. But I also want to congratulate you, Crystal, really fast, because you are graduating. Yes.

[00:16:38] Tomorrow. Yeah. Congratulations, Crystal. Thank you very much.

[00:16:42] Yes. Golf clap.

[00:16:43] Aw.

[00:16:44] Yeah. So that's been a topic on the show several times about, how busy, things are with you being in school. And now that you're done with school and you're actually going to join the rest of us working stiffs, how does that feel?

[00:17:00] Oh, gosh. Scary, but exciting at the same time. So.

[00:17:03] Yeah. So it'll be like a normal schedule, like, you'll be home by four or five o'clock every night. Yeah. That's going to be nice.

[00:17:10] Well, I think I get off about 4.30, maybe closer to five.

[00:17:15] But it'll be nice to get in a routine and get your kind of, your evenings back where you don't have to study and stuff. Yeah. It's going to be wonderful. I'm really happy for both of you.

[00:17:25] I'm very happy for you both.

[00:17:26] I'm very happy for her, too. I mean, that's going to be so nice.

[00:17:28] Like, airplane time.

[00:17:30] More airplane time. That's what I keep thinking. Like, I don't know.

[00:17:33] Next thing Crystal will be building an airplane. Will you? Maybe. You never know. Don't rule it out.

[00:17:39] Right? I'm optimistic. So, the good wife in this whole situation, by the way, this is a good segue. The good wife who listens to the podcast is actually going to build an airplane.

[00:17:52] And I actually am going to build one. How many pieces? It's an ARF. So, how many pieces?

[17:58] UNKNOWN: I don't know.

[00:18:00] The book is like this big. I mean, I could do twelve. But, yeah.

[00:18:04] It's twelve to twenty pieces.

[00:18:06] I don't know. It's a box.

[00:18:07] Somewhere in that range.

[00:18:08] I kind of know. So, just give me something.

[00:18:11] I'll build it.

[00:18:11] I did read the instructions. I did read them.

[00:18:13] So, let's have Lori explain how she came up with this whole idea. Right. Yeah. Because it was your idea, right?

[00:18:19] It was my idea.

[00:18:21] 100%.

[00:18:21] Very impressive.

[00:18:22] Which just made me really, really happy.

[00:18:24] Yeah. 100%. And it's a two-fold. It's a two-fold. I swear I did not provoke her. He did not. Not at all.

[00:18:29] We'll talk about that. Okay. And then after that, we're going to look at Crystal to see how she can at least match the dedication.

[00:18:39] What? I am going to stick up for her. She has a lot of wonderful qualities that I don't have that she excels at that I do not. Really?

[00:18:48] She does. I mean, yeah, she does.

[00:18:49] She does. She is. She really does.

[00:18:53] She is amazing.

[00:18:54] She is amazing.

[00:18:55] No, she is.

[00:18:56] She is. She is. I am. There you go. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. And there it is.

[00:19:03] So, Lori, how did you come up with the idea of putting it off together?

[00:19:06] So, it's a couple reasons. One, I really do enjoy spending a lot of time with Tom. And you're going to laugh at this, but it's really true. You're laughing.

[00:19:17] No, I'm laughing because I know what is coming up.

[00:19:22] Yes. And it's one more way for me to spend time with him and to have conversations with him and for one more thing for us to do together. So, that's number one.

[00:19:32] Okay.

[00:19:32] Number two, you guys talk about in the podcast, how anybody can do this. Well, I am anybody. And so, I wanted to challenge myself and see if I can actually do it.

[00:19:45] You're not just anybody.

[00:19:46] You're everybody to me. Oh, thanks, baby. Oh, my God.

[00:19:50] You're getting so deep. Suck up.

[00:19:52] That's how you do it, though.

[00:19:55] Take notes. You make everybody listening want to throw up a little bit.

[00:19:58] Do I need to remind you my wife wants to build an airplane?

[00:20:00] That's true, I guess.

[00:20:02] Do you see what I'm?

[00:20:02] Okay. But what made me laugh is you want to do this to be closer to Tommy and to, to spend the time together. Yes. But when do you plan on doing this?

[00:20:13] Okay. So, let me roll this back. That is ironic. I know. It's very ironic. Wait a minute. Let me roll this back because this was all decided before he had to leave for work again.

[00:20:22] Okay.

[00:20:23] And so, we talked about, like, how much involvement he was going to have while I was building it.

[00:20:28] Yeah, and I didn't want it to turn into me telling her how to build an arm.

[00:20:33] Or you hovering. Exactly. Doing that wrong. Exactly. Or here it's… Because I know how you can judge.

[00:20:40] Or I didn't want it to be a situation where just let me do it because it's faster and easier and I can do it. So, I really wanted it to be an authentic experience. Yes. Okay.

[00:20:48] So… Which is why we, we opted not to do the stick because, no manual and all that. Right. Like, it kind of goes along.

[00:20:56] I need the manual and all that stuff. So, then with him, I wanted him hands off but available as, hey, this is what's going on. What would you do? Or am I doing this right? Then it ended up that he has to be gone for 19 days in June. And I thought, okay, if I'm really going to have a really authentic experience, that's when I should build it. He's still a text message away. If I have a question, I'm sure I can reach out to you if I can't get in. Yeah, I am too. Yeah.

[00:21:27] So, that to me is an even more authentic experience than just having him in the house.

[00:21:33] It's a realistic first-timer experience because of, let's say they, somebody goes the route that we always recommend. you join a club and you get your first airplane and then you usually have someone in that club to get a hold of if you have a question or whatever. And this would be a very similar experience. Very similar experience. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:21:50] I agree. I just like the irony of it. Yeah.

[00:21:54] The irony, yeah. I get that. But, like, the long-term, ideally in my eyes, she does it. She falls in love with the hobby like I did. And then it's something we continue on, after she's built her first airplane.

[00:22:09] And I'm considering learning to fly.

[00:22:12] I think that's awesome.

[00:22:13] Yeah.

[00:22:13] That is awesome.

[00:22:14] Yeah.

[00:22:15] I'm not sure if I'm the one to teach you.

[00:22:17] That's what I was just going to ask. That's how you're going to be able to do it.

[00:22:20] Because, yeah.

[00:22:22] I've done many in-house projects with him and I don't think that he is the one to teach me to fly. Yeah.

[00:22:30] And I know my weaknesses. Yeah. So we may have someone else do the teaching.

[00:22:34] We are way too close for him to teach me anything.

[00:22:37] Yeah. And I fully understand that.

[00:22:40] Yeah.

[00:22:41] So find somebody else.

[00:22:42] Yeah.

[00:22:42] Not me. Because I'm a terrible teacher. Like, I get tongue-tied. I'm like, no, go left. I meant left. No, I meant right. Go right.

[00:22:50] And I have the same problem.

[00:22:51] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:52] Which is why he would get frustrated. He gets frustrated with me when I navigate us in the car. Because.

[00:22:59] Well, she still gets left and right confused sometimes.

[00:23:01] I don't have instant recall of left and right. I really have to think about it for a second.

[00:23:06] Which is a really nice way of saying she doesn't know her left from her right.

[00:23:10] It takes me a minute to hold my hands up and see which one makes the L. No.

[00:23:14] It's just, I get easily. I have many wonderful redeeming qualities. Absolutely. And a sense of direction is not one of them.

[00:23:22] I feel you, though.

[00:23:23] Yeah.

[00:23:23] I still don't know north, south, east, west. Wherever. When I'm going somewhere, I have no clue which way I am.

[00:23:27] Tell me to turn at the Casey's. Don't tell me to turn south. Yeah, she's much better with landmarks than actual directions. I'm a virtual learner.

[00:23:36] So, the plane you're going to be building is one that we actually just picked up last weekend. Yep. Or two weekends ago. Two weekends ago. When we made another trip to Brian's.

[00:23:46] Yep.

[00:23:46] We bought some new airplanes for us in observance of our 100th episode. Of our 100th episode, yes. At least that is the excuse I used when I came home.

[00:23:56] Absolutely.

[00:23:57] And pulled the box inside.

[00:23:58] Mm-hmm.

[00:23:59] Actually, Chris still had to carry it inside because. That's awesome. I was having foot issues at the time. Yeah.

[00:24:05] And I celebrated our 100th episode by getting an airplane that I've wanted for a long time.

[00:24:09] Mm-hmm. What'd you get?

[00:24:10] I got a Pitts biplane, finally. Nice. Yeah. It's a fun time. I've been wanting one for a long time.

[00:24:14] He posted his biplane family.

[00:24:18] I did.

[00:24:18] On Facebook.

[00:24:20] That wasn't all of them, by the way.

[00:24:21] That's all the biplanes.

[00:24:22] Well, that's all together. But that's not all the ones that you have.

[00:24:26] That's all the ones I have that are currently flyable. On my list.

[00:24:30] Yeah.

[00:24:31] But no, I have several others that. Several?

[24:33] UNKNOWN: Yeah.

[00:24:34] There's one that's happened together.

[00:24:35] I know the Chip Hyde Double Vision. That one. -huh. There's the Elder Bipe.

[00:24:40] Oh. Yeah. I forgot about that.

[00:24:42] That's a kit, though. Yeah.

[00:24:43] What's the one, the wooden one that's hanging up in the rafters?

[00:24:46] That's the Sobwith Camel.

[00:24:47] Yes, that one.

[00:24:48] I don't even count that anymore. And do you count, so would you count a triplane as kind of a.

[00:24:52] Biplane?

[00:24:53] No, I guess it's a triplane. Well, if you want to add that to multi-wing airplanes, then there's the triplane. A VK kit that's still in the box. I have the Midwest Super Stearman, still in the box. All that still in the box. So, yeah, there's several.

[00:25:09] So, how many do you have in a box? Do you hear a theme?

[00:25:11] Yeah, I know.

[00:25:12] Were you not listening to our What's Your Number episode, Crystal? No, and it's probably good she wasn't. My number's really low.

[00:25:21] I don't have any visual Tommies. I mean, Reggie's. Tommy, Tommy, I have Reggie's airplanes.

[00:25:27] They're renting space in our house.

[00:25:29] I think the number for unbuilt ones, for me, I think it was in the 20s.

[00:25:34] Yeah. Okay. Which really surprised me. Yeah, more or less.

[00:25:38] I thought it was way more.

[00:25:40] Did you? Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm only like eight unbuilt.

[00:25:42] I've really been selective about the ones I choose to keep. what I mean? Yeah. The ones that really mean something to me.

[00:25:50] Yeah.

[00:25:50] No, I understand. I mean, you gave me the big stick kit, which is still. No, he really did, though. I mean, like, he actually. Yeah, he really did. Sometimes you can say that and be honest about it. He gave me something. Not always, though. What do you mean? Well, there are times I've told you somebody's given me an airplane that I've paid for. Oh. They did physically give it to you.

[00:26:13] I'm kidding. That never happened. That's true. It was physically handed. It was physically handed, so they did physically. They gave it to me.

[00:26:19] Yes.

[00:26:20] Yeah. So you're not lying. No.

[00:26:21] You just omitted the part where you gave him money. I wish you could see her face right now. Well, yeah. It's like, what?

[00:26:26] I wish, by the way, you would hurry up and finish that stick because we all need to have sticks.

[00:26:32] Yeah. And it's on my list of things to work on soon.

[00:26:35] Okay.

[00:26:36] Maybe in July when we take July off.

[00:26:38] Well, that would be. Hopefully, you'll be spending more time flying than building in July.

[00:26:43] Well, yeah. But during the week, I won't.

[00:26:45] Well, you've got all this space. You should be flying, like, in your backyard if it's not, like,.

[00:26:50] He is very particular. He does not like to fly even in this space very often. He wants, like, a huge, wide open area. I get that. Well, it depends on the plane. Even with small planes. He's like, oh, my God.

[00:27:03] What do I like? Just in that pitched voice, too. I do. I walk around all the time and go, oh, my God. No, so I like it to be good, calm winds. I don't like a lot of stuff going on in the background. So if somebody's cutting grass or if somebody's bugging me to do something else.

[00:27:23] Or if somebody's flying.

[00:27:24] He wants to make sure that he's not going to crash. Well, there's no.

[00:27:28] I mean, that should actually be everybody's, like, goal.

[00:27:31] Isn't that the goal? Every time I go out? There's no way to make sure. there's, like, your end of the spectrum and then Reggie's end of the spectrum.

[00:27:40] Oh, well, Reggie's just like, well, I don't care about this one. Let's see what happens. 30 mile an hour winds. Okay, let's try and fly.

[00:27:47] Well, and then again, you want to push to see what you can do. Smartly, though.

[00:27:54] Sometimes you need to get outside your comfort zone.

[00:27:56] Yeah.

[00:27:57] I mean, that's how you get better, right?

[00:27:58] Yeah. So we have completely turned this around on me right now. Thank you. Lori, is there anything else you'd like to throw in on this?

[00:28:04] I'm good, thanks.

[00:28:05] Cool.

[00:28:06] But we can't turn this back on me because this is completely out of my comfort zone. That is true.

[00:28:11] Yeah.

[00:28:12] And that's good. I've been with him for over 30 years. He's had airplanes ever since we've been together. I know a little bit, probably a bit more than the average person, but I've never physically done it. So.

[00:28:25] I'm excited to hear how it goes when you actually start doing it.

[00:28:27] Well, I plan on taking pictures and doing a little.

[00:28:30] We'll put a build log online. Yeah. On our website. I would like that. Yeah. We will do that. We'll have. We'll have you back on. I'm not exactly sure how we're going to do it, but like maybe there needs to be some sort of.

[00:28:46] In progress. Kind of a. Like. Interview.

[00:28:49] Talking herself through it. Oh, I can do videos. Like I could see her doing like a video blog or something like. Oh, I.

[00:28:55] Oh, day seven of this field.

[00:28:59] I am.

[00:29:00] You should definitely keep track of.

[00:29:01] I'm so thirsty now.

[00:29:03] The balsa dust. It's good. The balsa dust.

[00:29:07] It's just. It's in my lungs. But I got the servants to watch.

[00:29:11] I can do some videos.

[00:29:13] So the arc you have to sand?

[00:29:14] Absolutely not. No.

[00:29:16] Oh, what the heck?

[00:29:17] We're being.

[00:29:18] It's already covered. I don't know anything about.

[00:29:20] One thing that I do know about this plane. Okay. So don't be mad at me, but I don't remember the name of the plane. But what I do remember is it has actual monocoat covering on it. Okay.

[00:29:31] Well, you're stuff out of me because I have asked. I was with him when he bought it. I've asked him three times now what it's called. And you still don't know. And I still don't know either. So it's a surprise to me every time we talk about it.

[00:29:43] Announce it. What am I building?

[00:29:45] It's a Great Plains EZ Sport 40.

[00:29:47] There we go.

[00:29:49] Easy. You'd think I'd remember something so easy to remember.

[00:29:52] With actual monocoat.

[00:29:53] I am. You're excited about that. I really am. Why is that?

[00:29:58] Because of all the years that he's been building planes, it's always monocoat, monocoat, monocoat, monocoat, monocoat.

[00:30:03] I like monocoat.

[00:30:04] And so to me, that's like the upper echelon. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm bougie, so I like it.

[00:30:12] I don't agree with that. I mean, like, it's cool. That stuff is good. But I'm cheap. So I like the rules of the… Oh, yeah. I hate to call it Chinacoat, but that's kind of the… I mean, that's what everybody calls it.

[00:30:22] And I like that stuff, too.

[00:30:24] Yeah. It does a good job. It does a good job. And it's like $13 for a 450-foot roll.

[00:30:28] Yeah.

[00:30:29] It's… Maybe exaggerating. Quite a bit cheaper, yeah. with wives here, that's how much it is.

[00:30:33] But,… I'm bougie. But for the 30 years that she's, been with me and, Chinacoat is just a recent thing.

[00:30:40] Almost 33 years, but yes.

[00:30:42] Yeah. So it was monocoat was my favorite.

[00:30:44] And I'm bougie. And that's what I covered everything with. So I like nice things. So to me, monocoat, yeah, I'll take the monocoat.

[00:30:50] And I get it.

[00:30:51] And that's not to take anything away from the Chinacoat or Ultracode or Solotex or whatever.

[00:30:56] So when you come into the monocoat, then it's,…

[00:30:58] Yeah, you're not going to recover it. There's no reason to. I'm not going to recover it. It's a good covering job. You're probably going to have to shrink it a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:04] I'm going to have to…

[00:31:05] And that's in the instructions. Yeah.

[00:31:06] She gets to do all that.

[00:31:08] So, yeah.

[00:31:08] I have done that before. Years ago, my brother built a trainer plane. Gosh, that was…

[00:31:18] What kind was it? Do you remember? A trainer. Oh, it wasn't. It had a name.

[00:31:22] It didn't have a name that I… I know it was purple and white. It was a great plane. PT-40. PT-40. PT-40. PT-40. And I did help him put the monocoat on. I don't know if it was monocoat or not. It probably was. And then he had Starburst that we ironed on. So I have a little bit of experience with that.

[00:31:40] I wish everybody could see your hand motions. I know.

[00:31:43] I talk with my hands. I'm a very animated person. That she is.

[00:31:49] True.

[00:31:49] I am.

[00:31:50] No lies there.

[00:31:51] Nope, because it's written all over my face.

[00:31:53] That's true. So what are you going to do, Tommy? Are you going to set out, like, tools for her? Are you going to have…

[00:31:58] So the plan is, I'm going to clear off the workbench that I have, like, in the main area that she gave me recently. Thank you.

[00:32:07] It's the office annex?

[00:32:09] It's the… Yeah, the annex.

[00:32:10] Okay. So I have a question. Yeah. Since you're going to start building, are you going to have more area for the planes?

[00:32:20] Oh, I do like that.

[00:32:21] So now there's… It's not just Tom's area. So I don't foresee collecting a lot of planes.

[00:32:28] So you're just going to invade his area. I didn't either when I got started.

[00:32:30] None of us did. I didn't think I'd have more than one.

[00:32:33] That's pretty much the overwhelming consensus of everybody we ask that question to. No, I didn't imagine it would turn into this.

[00:32:39] Ten years later. No clue.

[00:32:40] I think right now I'm just going to focus on the one that I'm actually doing and then possibly learn to fly that one. And I'm under no… Pressure to… Pressure. Yeah, but… And I'm not even delusional to think that I would ever fly any of the ones that you currently own.

[00:32:57] I have several that once you've mastered the basics, you could fly easily. Oh, I don't think I would do that. Stick. Unless you want to get rid of a crystal. Nothing to be afraid of.

[00:33:06] I mean, it happens.

[00:33:08] But anyway, to get more to your point, Crystal, this airplane will easily fit in with the current space situation. So if one, if it turns out to be a one and done, no problem. Now, if she decides she likes it and she wants more, then we may have to have a discussion

[00:33:28] Of how much more space do I get.

[00:33:30] But that was actually a really good question. I had not even thought of that. But the plan, again, is I have a table set up that I use kind of as my alternate building area. I'm going to clear that off and I'm going to make that space available for her. And then, of course, I'll have all the tools, put a fresh sock on the iron and yeah, it'll be in the glue, the adhesives, all that stuff will be there and ready for her to do everything she needs to do. So.

[00:33:55] So maybe I'm not the average builder because the average builder doesn't have a prep guy. No.

[00:33:59] Well, that's true.

[00:34:00] Having a prep guy makes a huge difference.

[00:34:02] So I should just leave everything messy in my shop and make her find it?

[00:34:05] No, because then you'll be like, where is this?

[00:34:09] You could probably do that at your house. You could not do that here. I don't know where half my stuff is at the time. That's true. I know where his glues are.

[00:34:16] They're all in the fridge. You open a drawer and find five batteries. So yeah. Oh, look at that. I forgot I had these.

[00:34:20] I do know all the glues in the fridge.

[00:34:23] Yeah. Where it should be.

[34:25] UNKNOWN: Yeah.

[00:34:25] Yeah. So, but yeah, it'll, it'll be, I guess, I guess, yeah, you'll be kind of one step ahead because everything will be prepped and ready to go. But yeah, that's the, that's the plan. And yeah. And then I leave and good luck. Call Ron if you need anything.

[00:34:40] And like I said, I'll be, I'll be here. I can help you with anything you need. I'm a phone call and a picture away.

[00:34:45] Well, and he passes by your house four hours almost every day.

[00:34:49] So that's true.

[00:34:50] Yes. If you want to do it at six o'clock in the morning before I go to work and you go to work when I take Piper to grandma's, we can do that. Well, that's true.

[00:35:00] Stop by, check her progress, whatever. Yeah. She has a question. Hey, stop by. I look at this. Yeah, whatever.

[35:04] UNKNOWN: Yeah.

[00:35:05] That'll be good.

[00:35:05] But no, it's a, yeah, it should, and Great Plains, hands down, probably one of the, one of the better instruction manual writers, if you will. what I mean?

[00:35:19] It's detailed.

[00:35:19] They're easy to follow. They're very, they're very, very good.

[00:35:21] I did read the book.

[00:35:22] Clear instructions. And she has pre, yes, she's done a little bit of the homework. So.

[00:35:26] Oh, my gosh. Overachiever.

[00:35:28] Yeah.

[00:35:28] No, wait a minute. Time out. He handed it to me. Here you go.

[00:35:32] Well, that's not exactly how that went down. I brought it upstairs. I said, here, would you like, if you want to read this, I brought this up for you. It was that sort of a dynamic. It wasn't me forcing it in front of you and saying, here, read this.

[00:35:46] Now. I thought it was somewhere in the middle, actually, of both of those. Usually stories are. It was not so gingerly like, oh, here, honey, if you would like this, here. I thought maybe you'd like to read this. To get you started, darling..

[00:35:59] Hey, I brought this up in case you want to read it. Read it. It's probably something like that. Now feed me. Now I'm ready for dinner.

[00:36:04] Well, the feed me part is probably true.

[00:36:07] Maybe.

[00:36:09] So let's talk a little bit more about the biplane you just got.

[00:36:11] Oh, okay.

[00:36:12] Yeah.

[00:36:13] So it's a Cermark made back in early 2000s, and they were kind of pricey when they came out. But they're well done. Very, very pretty, I think. I like Pits Biplanes anyway.

[00:36:26] Yeah.

[00:36:26] I got one from, did a little bit of wheeling and dealing with Brian up there. Thanks, Brian, if you're listening. Got a pretty good deal on it, I think. I'm going to take Brian's engine off, put one of my own on there. But everything else, except for the batteries, was in there. I had all the servos and stuff ready to go. And, this is kind of interesting, double pull-pull on all the surfaces, except for the ailerons. So it's two elevator halves, right?

[00:36:52] They're pull-pull, both sides, and the rudder is pull-pull. Yeah. A lot of cables and stuff. Is that a little overkill? I mean, I think that's how they came. Oh, is it? I think that's how the Cermarks were set up, but I've never actually dealt with one. I've never laid my hands on one. So it's kind of neat. There's a lot of cables and stuff running around inside the fuselage. It looks pretty neat.

[00:37:11] That's cool.

[00:37:12] Kind of like a full-size one.

[00:37:14] I've never heard of Cermark before. So, is that like a…

[00:37:17] Yeah, they were an importer. Or, I'm sorry, they were imported by, I think it was Alltech Marketing, maybe, originally. And then Hobby People. Yeah, Hobby People. And then Hobby Shack. Or Hobby Shack. And then Hobby People. And, yeah. Then they, like a lot of the companies, they just couldn't make it. So they stopped making them.

[00:37:37] So was this an ARF, or was this a kit? It was an ARF. An ARF. Yeah. Yeah, Brian had a bunch of them up there.

[00:37:42] Yeah. And, yeah. It's…

[00:37:45] Is this the one you kept looking at every time you went?

[00:37:47] Yes. Yeah. The one I talked about every time I got home, I was like, oh, I still got that Pitts up

[00:37:52] There. Oh, I should have got it. Yeah, you should have.

[00:37:55] He still has a couple left. He has a new one up there that's been put together, but no stuff put in it. And then he has another one that's ready to go with an engine. So if you're in the market for a Sir Mark Pitts, give Brian a Dynamic Balsa call. He'll hook you.

[00:38:07] He'll hook you, although he might not ship them. And he'll have to drive.

[00:38:10] Yeah, and they made it in two different color schemes. They have the classic red and white one, like the one I got, that you can see on Facebook. And I think there's pictures, like, everywhere. I was so proud of it. And they did another one that was blue and white with stars on it. He had both. He still has both versions up there. So if you're looking for one, yeah.

[00:38:28] So Brian doesn't ship?

[00:38:29] Yeah, he does.

[00:38:30] Well, he didn't ship airplanes like that.

[00:38:32] He doesn't prefer to, but I think if you pay him enough, he will.

[00:38:36] Oh, well, I mean, I guess that's true. If you pay anybody enough, they'll do something. But I know, like, ARFs and that kind of stuff, they're already boxed and ready to go. Yeah, he ships those all the time.

[00:38:44] Yeah, full airplanes, he probably, he would probably, honestly, probably would he do. He would work out some sort of delivery while also making a pickup wherever that might be.

[00:38:53] Yeah.

[00:38:53] Because he buys a lot.

[00:38:55] Yeah.

[00:38:55] Like, across the country. It seems like every time we see him, he's got a van full of airplanes.

[00:38:59] Yeah, look what I just picked up. Oh, those are nice.

[00:39:01] Yeah, they're always nice.

[00:39:02] Yeah. That's what happened last time.

[00:39:04] Yeah, yeah. So, one of these days we'll get up there and we're going to buy something out of the van he just brought back, I feel like, one of these days. Right?

[00:39:13] No, we haven't yet, have we?

[00:39:14] Not right out of the van. Yeah.

[00:39:16] Yeah. It's been close. Yeah. But, and then I got an ARF. I don't remember what it is because I didn't write it down. I know it's a seagull. This is how bad I am. Like, my mind just is shot right now. So, tell me, what did I get? Was it a Stinson? Stinson Reliant. That's it, yeah. Oh, my God.

[00:39:34] It's a beautiful airplane. I can't wait to see this one together.

[00:39:37] I can't wait to see that one either. It's a 91 size, or a 60 to 91 size, depending on the motor you put on it.

[00:39:42] You're going to go gas or electric?

[00:39:44] I am excited. Okay. I'm getting my old gas motor back from you. We're doing, yeah, he's got a big smile on his face. So, the Skybolt that I…

[00:39:56] Came from you. Now I own.

[00:39:57] I was going to say I'm not selling it to you. I was going to say I sold you, but I didn't sell it to you. We traded stuff for whatever it was. I had a RCGF… Hello! It also had an RCGF-15 on it. 15 feet, yeah. Which you said was a little bit underpowered for what you want to fly on it.

[00:40:13] It feels underpowered for that airplane, yeah.

[00:40:14] Yeah, and in the six, seven, eight years I had it, I flew it once, and it felt okay for me, but that was a long time ago. So, I'm going to get that motor off of it to put on this one, which is nice.

[00:40:26] That'll be a fantastic combination.

[00:40:28] Well, I almost didn't get that, because I saw for electric, it takes up to a 10S battery.

[00:40:36] Mm-hmm.

[00:40:36] And I'm not buying those expensive batteries for one airplane.

[00:40:41] Yeah.

[00:40:41] So, it worked out okay.

[00:40:42] But if you bought those big, expensive batteries, then you would have batteries for more than one of these bigger airplanes.

[00:40:47] Yeah, but I still just don't want to. Yeah. I mean, like, I know where you're going on this one.

[00:40:51] That size, to me, it's more economical just to put a gas engine on it and call it good.

[00:40:56] Yeah. Which is what I want to do.

[00:40:56] And plus, it makes noise.

[00:40:58] And it makes good noise. I mean, I don't want nitro, so the only real option I have is that motor from you, so I'm glad it's going to work out fine, and I'll be able to put it on and fly it.

[00:41:10] Yeah, and I'll put one of the extra YSs, the 120s, on that airplane, too, so then…

[00:41:15] I'll go to my box of extra motors I have just sitting around and see, what do I want to use on this one?

[00:41:19] That's probably accurate.

[00:41:20] No, it is, actually. I wasn't joking about that. I mean…

[00:41:24] No, it's 100% accurate. Yeah. Boxes.

[00:41:27] Yeah.

[00:41:28] But that's okay.

[00:41:29] Yeah, I'm totally okay with that. You already have what you need, so… They make me happy, so there you go. Boxes. Boxes.

[00:41:36] So, yeah, it's dense and reliant. Yeah. With flaps.

[00:41:38] It does have flaps, and it's the red and black that I absolutely love. Your favorite color combination. My favorite colors go together.

[00:41:44] Is that the top flight one?

[00:41:46] No, that was… Oh, no, that was… Yeah, seagull. You said that. So, yeah. That will go together not soon, because I want to get all the other projects I have started finished. Okay, maybe not all of them, because…

[00:41:59] See, let this be a lesson to you, Lori. Oh. When you get multiple airplanes, you also end up with multiple projects.

[00:42:06] How is that different from my real life?

[00:42:08] See? Oh, well, that's true. It's multitasking. Yeah.

[00:42:12] Or non-tasking. You'd be really good at it, maybe, though.

[00:42:14] I'd be really good at building half of them in the walking way.

[00:42:18] Yeah, there's a lot of people that do that. I mean, you can buy a lot of kits that, oh, it's already been started, here you go. That's true. Yeah. And then usually you don't want to do that, because they don't do them well.

[00:42:26] Every swap, you'll see a pile of those, usually, somewhere.

[00:42:28] Yeah.

[00:42:28] And that's probably why I don't want to get too much into the building. Well, it will be…

[00:42:34] The running joke in our house is like, oh, Lori's doing a project, she'll get about three-fourths of the way done, and then that's when she's done. Mm-hmm.

[00:42:41] I'm the same way.

[00:42:42] Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

[00:42:44] Yeah. Like, I'm big picture. I can do the big things, but when it comes to small, intricate detail work, it just loses me.

[00:42:53] Oh, I know.

[00:42:56] And on that note…

[00:42:58] No, like, all the stuff we do around the house, too, it's like, oh, we'll get three-quarters of the way through, and… That's when you're supposed to come in and… Finish. Yeah.

[00:43:07] Pretty sure we had a paint swatch in our kitchen for, like, eight years.

[00:43:11] Eight years. Yeah. It was on the wall. Eight years. Well, that's okay.

[00:43:14] We just need to finish, like, the trim in the entry room. Here it comes.

[00:43:18] Oh, so this is a list of stuff I got to do now.

[00:43:21] Who's got a pin later?

[00:43:22] I'd like to say that I finish projects that I start, but I can't say that either, because I've got, Sop with Camel, I've got the Horton project. I mean, I can't say it either, so…

[00:43:32] I'd like to say I do, too, but that would be a lie, so I'm not even going to act like

[00:43:36] That. I think we're all in that boat.

[00:43:37] Yeah, I think so. Yeah. To some degree. Yeah, some worse than others.

[00:43:41] Because really,…

[00:43:42] Looking at you, Lori.

[00:43:44] Wow. That was… If those eyes could pierce steel, you would have done that. Long day. It's been a long day.

[00:43:53] Know thyself. Know thyself.

[00:43:55] Know your weaknesses, of which I have…

[00:43:58] Like I said, I have many wonderful redeeming qualities. I can name them all. But not all of them are wonderful. Not all of them are wonderful. There you go.

[00:44:05] They're all qualities.

[00:44:06] They're all qualities. Not wonderful.

[00:44:08] Yes. Anyway.

[00:44:09] So, yeah. We picked up three fresh new airplanes to us. Did you add them to your spreadsheet? I did.

[00:44:17] Me, too.

[00:44:17] Yep. Mine is on there.

[00:44:19] Completely up to date.

[00:44:20] Nice. Except…

[00:44:22] So, we bought the batteries for our UMX ones. Yeah. For the UMX airplanes we bought at the swap meet.

[00:44:30] Not every deal is a great deal.

[00:44:33] Well, no.

[00:44:35] You and I are both a little bit disappointed in our UMX purchases. Go ahead.

[00:44:39] Yeah.

[00:44:40] You talk about yours.

[00:44:41] So, I… Actually, last night I was going to go out and fly that because I thought, perfect night to go out and fly something. So, I got the battery, got it all bound to my transmitter and stuff. The rudder doesn't work.

[00:44:55] No.

[00:44:56] The rudder does not work.

[00:44:57] Which also means the tailwheel. Because the tailwheel is terrible on that, too.

[00:45:01] Oh, I don't… Okay. I'm not going to be taking off. I will be throwing it. But, yeah. So…

[00:45:06] That's disappointing.

[00:45:06] I'm going to have to figure out how to take that apart and fix the servo on that. Which… So, I got that carbon cub that we talked about for five bucks that had been crashed. So, I might… Like, I don't know if I want to try and fix that one and fly it or just take a servo off of that. We'll see. I don't know what I want to do yet. But, I would have been much happier if that worked from the very beginning. And I didn't have to do anything on it. And my S-Bach…

[00:45:29] Did you get one of these planes, too, that you're talking about? Yeah. It was only 40 bucks. So, I don't feel like it we…

[00:45:34] Yeah.

[00:45:36] Like, we didn't get hurt on it.

[00:45:37] I had to buy a new motor for mine.

[00:45:39] Which was not expensive.

[00:45:40] No, it was 20 bucks, whatever it was. But, still, now I'm up to $60 for a used UMX, which stings a little bit. How much is the new one? Oh, about…

[00:45:50] 60 bucks?

[00:45:52] No, no, no. I think it's a new… 65! We're way ahead. I think the new ones, Bind and Fly, I think they were like $199 or some…

[00:46:01] Somewhere between $160 and $200. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:46:03] So, I mean, I'm not anywhere near a new one, but…

[00:46:06] No.

[00:46:06] …more than I would have paid for it.

[00:46:08] But they are both in good shape.

[00:46:10] They are.

[00:46:10] I mean, so they've not been crashed. Yeah, looks-wise, they look good. You can tell that they were taken care of. Yeah. But, so we bought batteries, too, obviously. For some reason, the batteries I bought were, what, 200 mAh? Mm-hmm. And you got the 180.

[00:46:25] Mm-hmm. Your 180s were a lot more expensive than mine. I know. I don't understand.

[00:46:29] Like, mine were $10 a piece, and I think you paid…

[00:46:31] 13?

[00:46:32] 13.

[00:46:33] 13. Well, 14 by $13.99.

[00:46:34] $13.99 for each one. For a smaller battery.

[00:46:37] Yeah, I don't understand it either, but…

[00:46:38] Weird.

[00:46:39] Same vendor?

[00:46:40] Yeah.

[00:46:40] Same brand.

[00:46:41] E-Flight.

[00:46:41] Yeah, E-Flight.

[00:46:42] Hmm.

[00:46:43] Yeah, I don't understand the pricing, but, yeah, it is what it is.

[00:46:46] Well, speaking of E-Flight, there's a new airplane from E-Flight.

[00:46:50] You saw our pictures we had printed. Very good little bring-around, whatever you want to… Good job. Segway. Segway. Segway. That's it. Yeah. So, yeah, there's a new airplane that E-Flight is coming out with.

[00:47:02] E-Flight's got a new foam airplane out there.

[00:47:04] You are so against the foam.

[00:47:06] I hate to be, but, yeah, I just prefer balsa.

[00:47:10] The first thing he said when he thought, oh, it's foam.

[00:47:14] This would look good if it was bigger and had a gas engine on it.

[00:47:17] I may or may not have said something to that effect.

[00:47:19] You may have said that exact thing. Which I don't disagree. I can't help it. what? I like… Like, E-Flight does a good job with airplanes.

[00:47:27] They absolutely do.

[00:47:29] Foam, while not my favorite, isn't bad. Like, I've got the air tractor. That fly is so good. It really does. Batteries I already have. You don't have to worry about…

[00:47:40] Hey, listen, I have foam airplanes, okay? It's not that I'm totally against them. Like, my foam air force that Dave Taylor put together, I love those airplanes.

[00:47:47] Yeah.

[00:47:47] And I've got, the UMX, S-Bog.

[00:47:50] But that's a little different because it's not the EPS foam where you see the foam foam.

[00:47:53] Exactly.

[00:47:54] Yeah.

[00:47:54] So, it's not that I'm totally against foam. I just prefer, and especially on something that was as well done as this new E-Flight Commander, it's really a pretty airplane. And it's a shame that they did it in foam.

[00:48:08] It is. Blue and white, though.

[00:48:09] Yeah.

[00:48:10] It's pretty. I do like the blue and white. I mean, it's a weird…

[00:48:12] It's a beautiful little airplane, but blue and white. Yeah, around here when we're flying. Oh, true.

[00:48:17] The sky that's blue and what is white.

[00:48:18] If there's clouds.

[00:48:19] Oh, clouds.

[00:48:20] So, yeah, that's going to easily get… Yeah, so we'll see. It does have some other, it has some black trim and things like that. Just put some neon stripes on it. But it may come to that. The bottom is checkerboard, so maybe…

[00:48:29] Yeah, maybe that'll help. I like the shape of the wing, though. I really do. Like, that's the thing. Like, the back reminds me of a Piper Cub.

[00:48:36] Mm-hmm.

[00:48:36] Like, the whole tail section. Oh, yeah, for sure. And the tail feathers, all that looks like a Piper Cub. But I don't know what to compare the wing to. Like, it's the elliptical shape, kind of…

[00:48:46] It reminds me of a GB, actually. It's not a terribly long wing.

[00:48:53] No.

[00:48:54] But it's very, the cord, it's got a very deep cord, and the elliptical, wingtips. It's very GB-ish to me.

[00:49:00] I really do like that GB. I do, too. I can't wait to fly it. It's cute. It's very cute.

[00:49:05] It is cute.

[00:49:06] It's cute. It's a cute little plane. It's manly. It's not cute. It's a manly airplane. Can we see it fly through the air like a man would fly through the air? Manly.

[49:16] UNKNOWN: Yeah.

[00:49:18] Okay, that's what it's come to, manly. Manly airplane.

[00:49:20] I don't often think planes are cute, because to me, sometimes they all look the same. That one is very distinct.

[00:49:26] It is. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It is very distinct. It's very unique.

[00:49:30] Yeah.

[00:49:31] Yeah. But anyway, I like the profile of this new E-Flight. I do, too. The side view, it looks, like, it reminds me of, it has, like, all the, it ticks all the right boxes. It's curvy. It has kind of an S-Bach kind of vibe with the setback canopy, and I don't know. I like it. Is it sexy looking? Yeah, I think so. It's very sleek. I would call it sexy. I mean.

[00:49:53] I would agree.

[00:49:54] I'm showing pictures. Yeah.

[00:49:56] Crystal, is that sexy? It's pretty. It's pretty. Oh, gosh. That starts a whole other conversation.

[00:50:02] It's not cute.

[00:50:02] It's not sexy, but it is pretty.

[00:50:03] Pretty, yeah.

[00:50:04] Yeah.

[00:50:05] I agree with that assessment.

[00:50:07] And I do, too. So, let's move on. True Turn is stopping production of their spares.

[00:50:13] I know. That's so sad.

[00:50:15] Yeah. Why? Apparently, they don't.

[00:50:18] Probably. Well, so, I know a little bit about True Turn. They have, they do some military, I shouldn't say military, some federal, they have some federal contracts. They produce stuff for the feds. That's probably what they're going to concentrate on, because that's where the money is.

[00:50:32] I mean, let's face it. Yeah, they're not closing the doors. They're just not producing spares. They don't have spinners for us anymore.

[00:50:37] Now, to be specific, these are aluminum?

[00:50:40] Yeah. Spinners that are, that are machined from aluminum. Yes. Correct. Yeah. And they also made adapter nuts. the spin-on nuts that goes on your crankshaft that has a hole in it for the, for the single screw that holds the cone on.

[00:50:53] They also made those, which they will no longer. Yeah.

[00:50:56] So, for adapters and spinners, aluminum spinners, we'll have to either do without or find a different source, which I imagine, if you give it time, I imagine you'll find someone.

[00:51:09] Try and fill the void. Yeah. I would hope so. I mean, like, I don't know how big of a business that would be, but.

[00:51:14] I can't imagine it being a huge business, but I mean, they were in business for, I think, more than 25 years, I think, is what I saw somewhere.

[00:51:22] Yeah.

[00:51:22] But, yeah, it's a, it's a kind of sad day and it's not a, it's not a story that hasn't been told before from, many other manufacturers, unfortunately.

[00:51:31] Way too many people are quitting on that, so. We'll see.

[00:51:35] But, yeah, sad day. No more, no more true turn spinners or adapters.

[00:51:39] Seems like there's a lot more of, like, the e-flight foam airplanes and that kind of stuff taking over, not as much of the builder's airplanes.

[00:51:49] Yeah.

[00:51:49] Like, the building side of things doesn't seem to be taken as much, taken over

[00:51:54] As much. I mean, that's a conversation we've had a few times, too, here on the show that, yeah, people, for whatever reason, they either don't have time or interest in building, like, like we did.

[00:52:05] Do you think it's an ebb and flow?

[00:52:06] I think it could be. There was definitely a resurgence in, in kit manufacturers, a few years ago, we had the custom kit cutters and all those companies that were doing kits. And even those seem like they've sort of tapered off now, like the company that we dealt with. Yeah. So.

[00:52:22] It's just, I hope it comes back. I mean, I just hope it doesn't get to the point where people get out of this and then forget about it because video games are more fun, building whatever else is more fun. It's just.

[00:52:35] Yeah. Video games are low risk, right? Absolutely. They can turn it on and play. And if they get bored, they turn it off. with an airplane, you get bored, turn it off, it crashes.

[00:52:45] ? Okay. So I'm going to write that down.

[00:52:47] Don't. Just get bored. Well, I'm done with this. And then walk away. Yeah.

[00:52:51] Which is probably another reason why he won't teach me to fly. Because I'll be like, I don't want to do this anymore.

[00:52:57] Let's do something else. Well, he's going to try and push you to do it. So just get used to it. I'm not pushing.

[00:53:00] He's not pushing. I am not going to push. He is not pushing. I've tried that method before and it does not work.

[00:53:05] Do the opposite.

[00:53:06] I'm going to do the opposite.

[00:53:07] I don't want you to fly this. No. No, I don't think that's a terrible idea. I don't think you do very good at that at all.

[00:53:13] No, he has asked me no less than 15 times. Now, this is what you want to do, right?

[00:53:17] Yes.

[00:53:18] Yeah.

[00:53:19] I just want to make sure,?

[00:53:20] Why not? It's exciting to me. I'm really stoked about it.

[00:53:24] Good times. Good times. Good times will be had.

[00:53:27] By all, hopefully.

[00:53:28] Anything else we want to talk about?

[00:53:29] Hopefully we'll all have a good time when Lori's building an airplane.

[00:53:32] When you're gone?

[00:53:34] Well, but I mean, when I get back and I can see the finished project, hopefully we'll all have a good time and go out and fly it.

[00:53:39] But when you inspect my work, I'm going to be upstairs.

[00:53:44] So, yeah, I've thought about that, right?

[00:53:46] Yeah. Act like I built it. Like, just, oh, Ron did this? Oh, you did a good job, buddy. And then just kind of pat me on the head and just be like, yeah, that's great.

[00:53:59] No, I don't think I'm going to inspect it. I mean, I'll inspect it for safety, when it comes time to fly it. But like, as far as like workmanship and all that, I understand it's going to be your first attempt, right? So there's going to be some leeway that I'm going to have to, have to be okay with.

[00:54:17] Now, your second one better be perfect.

[00:54:18] Yeah, the second one. If you decide to do a second one, it better be perfect.

[00:54:22] Dang it.

[00:54:23] I know that you're going to inspect it, but you're not going to say anything to me about it. Probably.

[00:54:28] Let's be honest. It's all going to be in your monologue. I'll let what he says already.

[00:54:32] Mental note, say to Ron, she did a really good job. She did way better than I expected.

[00:54:38] Mental note, don't talk about it on the podcast because I listen. Now, Crystal built one. You could talk about it because she doesn't listen.

[00:54:46] Well, she's done with school now, so that's going to change things. Yes, she will absolutely.

[00:54:51] And she has a small commute to work so she can listen on her way in and on her way home.

[00:54:55] It'll be like 10 minutes, like back and forth.

[00:54:57] That's about all we're good for for an episode, so that's all right. Right.

[00:55:01] Put it on double speed. Oh, you could.

[00:55:08] And done.

[00:55:09] Yeah, and we're done. So one last thing. No, one last thing. We've been busy, doing the guest interview episodes, so if anybody out there is interested in being a guest, get a hold of us. There's a Be a Guest form that Ron put out there on our website. Fill that out and send it to us if you want to be a guest, and Ron will get you scheduled.

[00:55:31] We should have done this when people are still listening at the beginning.

[00:55:34] Oh, that's true.

[00:55:35] Just swap it out.

[00:55:36] Well, for those that are still listening, if you want to be a guest on the show, yeah, there's a form on our website, rcplanalab.com, and you can do that, and Ron will get it scheduled.

[00:55:45] Yeah, we've got, I've had a few people reach out that I have not gotten in touch with. I will be doing that soon. Don't worry. We're not ignoring you. Have you guys liked doing them? They've been a lot of fun, actually.

[00:55:58] You'd like to do the guest ones?

[00:55:59] Yeah.

[00:56:00] Yeah? It is, well, I shouldn't, yes and no.

[00:56:03] The biggest reason for the no is because I learn about more things, and then I want to

[00:56:10] Buy more stuff.

[00:56:11] Buy more things. I mean, that's why I have the lighted airplane, because we talked to Jeff about it, and he kind

[00:56:18] Of- The shiny? The shiny, yeah. That is my favorite.

[00:56:21] Look at her. She knew what it was called.

[00:56:22] She knew the- Oh, my God. Crystal.

[00:56:25] Crystal for the win.

[00:56:26] I'm so proud of you.

[00:56:26] I'm just saying I looked over there earlier.

[00:56:29] Nice job. You don't need to know, no one needs to know your method. You just remembered it.

[00:56:33] Yeah, that you remembered it is, yeah, that's awesome. But yeah, you're right.

[00:56:36] And the glider.

[00:56:37] And the glider.

[00:56:38] And the glider.

[00:56:38] Yeah. It's all about talking to people that we've had on so far, so it gets expensive, but it's-

[00:56:44] Well, but yeah, it's been a lot of fun. We've actually learned quite a bit of stuff, too. So, the battery data donkles that we talked about.

[00:56:53] Donkles, yeah. That sort of came- The ISDT Bat Air. Thank you. Yeah, that's a mouthful. I can't say that. That was also from Discord. Yeah.

[00:57:01] Yeah. So, yeah, it's been a lot of fun. They're going really well, I think.

[00:57:06] I think so, too.

[00:57:07] Aside from a few technical issues, yeah, Ron's getting really, really good at doing the editing on those.

[00:57:13] Good job, Ron.

[00:57:14] So, yeah. Thanks. We enjoy having you as guests out there if you're still listening. So, yeah, if you want to be a guest, get a hold of them.

[00:57:19] Don't be shy.

[00:57:20] Yeah.

[00:57:21] It's painless.

[00:57:21] And it really is. It is painless. It's just a conversation. If you listen to him, you'll see. It's just a conversation.

[00:57:26] This is how many? We've been guests on here how many times? This is your third.

[00:57:30] Third.

[00:57:30] Third. We did one podcast ourselves.

[00:57:34] Oh, yeah. We did. -huh. So, wait.

[00:57:36] Is this four? Actually four.

[00:57:37] This is four.

[00:57:38] This is four.

[00:57:38] Yeah. And I enjoy it.

[00:57:41] We did one four percent of the time because this is 100 episodes. Did that math in my head.

[00:57:46] Nice.

[00:57:46] Good job.

[00:57:47] I've enjoyed coming on and talking.

[00:57:50] And I think this is going to be the easiest one to edit with you guys on.

[00:57:53] Yeah, because you guys behaved yourselves very nicely.

[00:57:56] I don't have to learn how to bleep again because I don't remember. We may have had a conversation.

[00:58:02] Well, that's true.

[00:58:03] Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.

[00:58:04] The last five minutes of the show.

[00:58:06] We've got the yardstick out. If they say something, we're going to smack their hands.

[00:58:11] It doesn't work. That's true. It makes it worse.

[00:58:15] All right. I'm finished. Anybody else finished? No, good.

[00:58:19] That's all I got.

[00:58:20] All right. Well, until next time, this has been one. Actually, you do this. This is your thing.

[00:58:25] My thing? Yeah, you're taking over. Oh, yeah. Well, just wanted to thank everybody for listening to our 100th episode. It's been a lot of fun. And that's all for now.

[00:58:34] It's been a long journey. It has. It's been two years, by the way. Did you realize that?

[00:58:38] Yeah. It's been just over two years. Yeah. I think somewhere in the back of my head, that clicked a while back. I was like, holy cow. This doesn't seem like it's been two years.

[00:58:45] Yeah. You started during the pandemic.

[00:58:47] Look at what all we've accomplished. More planes.

[00:58:51] A whole bunch of planes. And I'm okay with that. You've done a dualist project.

[00:58:56] Yeah. We built dualists. That's all you had then, huh? Just the one thing. We've talked a lot about the tri-motor project.

[00:59:06] There's been a lot of nothing on that one.

[00:59:07] You've gone to Brian's a hundred times.

[00:59:09] That actually only… You really do enjoy that? No, that didn't come about just because of the podcast. That was because you were looking for a…

[00:59:15] Antenna for the DX8.

[00:59:16] Yeah. It's the most expensive antenna you've ever bought. No kidding.

[00:59:20] But listen, these are all adventures that you guys have gone on because of the podcast.

[00:59:24] It's fun. I enjoy it. It's good.

[00:59:26] So yeah, here's to the next… Yeah, hopefully… Well done. Thank you. You're welcome.

[00:59:31] Here's to the next hundred. Hoozah.

[00:59:33] Hoozah.

[00:59:34] So that's it for us. I'm Tom.

[00:59:38] I'm Ron.

[00:59:39] I'm Lori. And I'm Crystal.

[00:59:41] Good night. Good night.

[59:43] UNKNOWN: Bye.

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