Ep 175: Snow Way!

[00:00:00] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC plane live podcast I’m Tom I’m Ron and.

[00:00:16] I’m Dave he’s something so excited and then you just like got sad at the.

[00:00:21] End. Well, it was a. It was a. You called an audible, like during the during the intro music there, so I wasn’t prepared to call the room to attention. So to

[00:00:34] Speak said: do you want to take it? You like sure, and you like, I sat up and you got already. And yeah, it was a big disappointment, wasn’t it? No, it was great, you did great, you did very so. Anyway, hey guys, how are you? I’m good. We’ve done a few things the last couple weeks. We have done a couple things we did we.

[00:00:52] Don’t see traveling. Yeah, yeah, we put some miles on the, on the car, a lot of most cars. Good trips, good trip. Well, Dave had trips, I had trips. Yeah, we had a.

[00:01:05] Trip I don’t know what you’ll talk about I don’t know how big this thing is.

[00:01:09] I’m gonna buy it anyway. Does it fit? It happens so sometimes even the places like Toledo, it happens. Yeah, you got room in your car. No, this seems to be a.

[00:01:23] Daniel problem, if you haven’t noticed. Yes, well, this isn’t a Daniel problem, though the Daniel Paul, it was a dangling hello, I thought it was your plane. No, that’s.

[00:01:31] Daniels I traded my plane for it but it’s Daniels I didn’t know that I now have.

[00:01:34] Cash in my hand for said plane. Nice, oh perfect. Oh yeah, that’s that’s what I said on our way home. I was like I’m pretty sure that’s for Daniel, but

[00:01:44] That it looked well. We’ll talk later, but that looked like a Daniel plane. Dave made the deal, so I just assumed it was a Dave plane. No, no, Dave’s. That was like up your.

[00:01:57] Alley but okay yeah anyway Dave is Dave is unloading not loading reloading.

[00:02:02] Daniel’s got adding ton of big planes. Now he’s got a lot and they’re all sticks and a cub. Which did you see he’s repainting the cub. I did it looks really good. Guess what color cub- yellow, orange. You should look at that. I do like.

[00:02:17] That orange is my favorite color just saying you have an orange shirt on.

[00:02:21] Talking into an orange microphone? Yes, while eating an orange and your glasses are orange. No, they’re not, but that’d be funny anyway. No weirdos. So, yes, new stuff. You want to talk about new stuff? There’s only a couple things that we saw new. Go ahead that. I’ve seen new one Dave brought up. You want to go first? Sure, they have no.

[00:02:48] Notes, but that’s okay, so this is all from memory from an email that I got. Looks like Freewing is re-releasing the Advanti S updated as a v2- I’m sure it’s just electronic updates and so forth- and they’re bringing it back in the what they call the.

[00:03:04] Very popular yellow scheme. It’s pretty sharp. It’s called the very popular yellow scheme. Yes, it is that way you search for the very popular yellow scheme. It’s probably part of.

[00:03:13] Their marketing yeah I’m sure it says the very popular that’s why they brought it back.

[00:03:18] Obviously because it’s a sharp look, very popular, so it looks like the. I’m assuming this is the pnp version, because we should have done this beforehand totally unprepared, which is which is us. So the modus operandi. Freewing Avanti S v2. Yellow, 80 millimeter EDS sport jet- pnp- $3.99- Aught, aught. Good looking color scheme. I like it. With no pilot. That just looks very odd in the pictures. Paint the canopy black. Call it a sport jet, but I mean like seriously, now look.

[00:03:54] Yes it does it looks very yeah just white in there if it was painted black in there yeah that.

[00:03:59] Would have been good too but whatever you can do it when you buy one yep modify it make it your.

[00:04:05] Home. That’s right. It’s a good looking sport. Jet. Yeah, what size? 80 Millimeter. 80 Millimeter- here that seems to be a. Lately it seems to be like that. Good size. Yeah, like a lot of releases.

[00:04:20] I don’t want to say a lot of releases makes it sound like a lot of releases but seems like there have.

[00:04:25] Been releases recently. In that 80 millimeter rig seems like you get a better performance out of the 80 than you do a 90 because it’s dragging around the extra weight, typically with the 90s yeah.

[00:04:33] Yeah, especially for the same battery writing. 6S5 is 6,000, 5,000 ish, although that one probably could do 8s. Yeah, I don’t know. The RF plus is 325. I’m trying to think quickly because

[00:04:50] Not down there in the specs. We’re not doing a very good job of the knee mill. Didn’t have a whole lot in. It has an improved landing gear design.

[00:05:00] That’s what it says okay the redesigned nose gear doors it’s grass friendly.

[00:05:08] Well that’s good we do fly off grass here a sport jet like that should be just fine no it just says.

[00:05:19] Six cell four to six thousand okay our light bulb battery well there you go probably does not need.

[00:05:26] The oomph on the 8s, the push, but it seems like a lot of the releases lately the bigger jets from 80 and above seemed like they, especially from fms and free wing, are doing hate 8s capable. So that’s that. Either way, cool. I’m okay, honestly, with sticking with 6l. I am too myself, just because you don’t have the weight penalty and this seems like a lighter airplane. Even with the less power still flies better.

[00:05:53] I have but can you imagine the extra power being able to punch it even better I mean it would be.

[00:05:57] Cool yeah but you just could burn through the pack faster yeah and you wouldn’t be able to do the.

[00:06:01] Cool slow alpha high alpha type stuff because of the wing load well you can do.

[00:06:06] Different flights with different batteries that’s true you’re right what was that.

[00:06:12] I’m not gonna repeat it. It’s gonna be your ringtone now. I’m gonna record it real quick that out. Every time I call you run it’ll direct. It is real. So I’ve got that’s true. Your text message. Reply.

[00:06:25] Yeah sound yes right so something else new you told me about that I know nothing about.

[00:06:32] And it affects me kind of it doesn’t does it kind of so spectrum announced today the ix14 plus.

[00:06:43] Se only missed it by eight months that’s a long time though that’s true a lot can happen at eight.

[00:06:51] Months. So what’s new? I was gonna say, apparently this is the new, updated version to match the ix20 se with the fun hall effect gimbals that are made of aluminum. Okay, but not gonna lie, I really like.

[00:07:07] The gambles on my transmitter? Yeah, did they add switches like the, the nice rocker switches like what you have on your ix20, or she never switches, or well, I have. They do this, I’m yours, I’m going sliders from side to side, as yours, yours has, like the ones that you can, I don’t think.

[00:07:24] They actually changed anything physically? Physically on it like that, yeah, yeah, which? If that’s the case, it makes me wonder. Maybe wouldn’t it be nice there’s the option to send it in- oh no- and have those replaced. I mean, I haven’t had any trouble with my standard. No, I get it okay, I understand, but after using, like I said that, the, the aluminum, just the, that feels so much nicer on your finger.

[00:07:54] Okay, yeah, I’ve not flown with your transmitter enough to notice a difference. I suppose if I flew with it more, maybe I would notice it. Yeah, it is what you’re, not what you’re having to.

[00:08:04] Experience. I don’t think it makes any difference in flying ability, but feels good. That’s all that matters, as long as you like it, exactly right now. So that came out pre-order. I think it’s supposed to be delivering in February, kind of cool. I want different colors or anything like that. Or is it the same, same, same. Just a yeah, same from what I was on it? Well, no, it says ix14, oh, plus se, se. Se’s on the bottom. So it is a new sticker, I guess, like I mean the bottom of the text on it, do you?

[00:08:39] Do a sticker yeah I’ll just put a sticker on mine then.

[00:08:45] I do need to get the orange grips for mine. Mine didn’t come with orange grips. I’m disappointed about that, but I’ll have to buy some. Mine came with it. My x20 se came with them. Is that exactly what you sound like? Oh, wow, okay, but that’s like all we got. That’s new this week. Huh, yeah, it’s all new: airplanes, balsa or foam. So, yeah, that’d be it, but we did get to do some.

[00:09:15] Stuff so the last couple weeks. So that was nice, we flew off the snow. We did that was fun, that was I think that’s my first time actually flying off the snow. Oh yeah, maybe that I can remember. Yeah, I’m gonna say that I think there might have been time before I did it, but I don’t not much remember.

[00:09:33] To be honest, it’s cold out anyone outside? Well, there’s that it’s got to be a window of about five degrees where Ron will actually go out and fly, but I feel as though you’re mocking me.

[00:09:45] And you are correct, sir, it’s not that bad. I flew everything I could fly you did. Yeah, I gave you some credit. So skis were hilarious. Okay, what, you’re a hater and I don’t like that. So here’s the thing: Friday night- well, Friday afternoon maybe I don’t remember what time it was- Dave texts, hey, do you want to go flying tomorrow? It snowed like it snowed a lot. Yeah, it was about 10 inches on the.

[00:10:16] Ground give or take. And I’m like I why? No, I don’t like I don’t have anything that floats cold and it might be windy. It wasn’t supposed to be windy and it wasn’t actually all that cold. It was quite comfortable it. I was away with a bad day, honestly, but except for the snow on the ground. So I’m sitting there thinking, okay, well, I don’t have anything to fly, and I’m going through in my mind inventory on what I can do. I’m like, oh what, maybe I can just throw a quick, quick pair of skis together.

[00:10:45] For the slow ultra stick because that’s an easy flying airplane, it’s not worried about anything. So I was like, yeah, I’m in. So I came home no clue what I’m doing, by the way, so I start to grab some salt now. That’s just not nice. What was? What was wrong with the design? They were the size of a toddler shoe. Well, toddlers are big. It’s a small airplane they were. They were grossly undersized.

[00:11:13] At any rate, at any rate, go ahead. So I might have made them small, but they were still. They were pretty wide, I don’t know. I think three inches wide, maybe four, I don’t know what I cut it out of. It was just the width of a sheet of balls I had there and, long story short, I was trying to figure out how to make it smooth. So, instead of, like, I was posting pictures we were talking on discord and, of course, one of the guys on discord after I made it past that point, so we can just put some like packing tape on the.

[00:11:47] Bottom to make it smooth. I’m like, ah, that’s a good idea. However, I was already covering mine with the MonoKote and all that kind of stuff. They were beautiful, they looked good and okay. So here’s the. They looked small. Here’s the thing. I thought. They looked fine sizeways, by the way, don’t make fun of it.

[00:12:06] I mean this little ultra stick is not a heavy airplane so I can see why you would think.

[00:12:11] A postage size stamp ski was bigger than a post-it note. The big ones even just saying so, I know so I ended up making that. I might have just thrown in the towel towards the end when it came to mounting.

[00:12:28] That’s about the quickest dirtiest way I could see possibly even come close to working well it was.

[00:12:33] Getting late and I was tired. I’m like, what do I have? That’s going to be easy. So in my mind I’m trying to think, okay, do I get the computer out? Do I try and design like something to cut out on the laser cutter and all that kind of stuff? I’m like, oh it’s, it’s like 6: 30, it’s late, it’s time for me to go to bed, so 6: 30. So anyway, I finally decided I’m gonna look around, see what I have, if I have anything to work, because all I need is a hole for the, the gear to slide in or to slide onto the.

[00:13:03] Airplane. And what do I come up with? Which I actually thought was brilliant- by the way, nobody else did, but I thought it was brilliant. So after going through my boxes of wheels, I had nice- not nice, but nice for this application- application sized wheels that came off of my original super cub that I bought, the hobbies on super cub that I bought to learn on, and I ended up cutting like right at the bot, like I kept.

[00:13:36] The tire off, but right at the bottom of the actual rim itself and that tire, believe it or not, super glue stuck to that, really well, didn’t melt, it, just stuck it nice. And to the cover height, to the covering. No, no, I actually cut the covering out. Oh, did you? I took a lot of abuse and stayed put. I was it did. That’s true, right anyway. So that’s how I did it. I just have wheels super glued to the top of some skates. And for you haters in here, I will say that, no, it might not have worked that day.

[00:14:09] Because the snow was light and fluffy it was, which, Tommy, yours, didn’t work all that great either. No, and those were factories and they were factory skis. My point exactly. It did work great on the carpet here before I took it to the field. And it did work great like four days later once things kind of got hard packed, got a little bit- not hard, but a little bit harder. Here there wasn’t as fluffy snow. I went out back just, did a quick take off and came back and landed just to make my just.

[00:14:41] Fail vision like a champion and it worked what actually bothered me more than anything she had.

[00:14:47] No centering ability to keep them up and I was just really worried that they were going to flop down and just dig in like giant breaks. Well, I knew they weren’t going to. I was afraid they were going to do.

[00:14:55] That in the air. See, I knew they weren’t going to flop down because I didn’t mount it to where it was heavy on the back, so it would hinge down and not like get caught by the wind and just keep flinging around. There was a little bit of forethought that went into where I put it and I like I was going to do the like the spring mountain stuff on it. But honestly, for that night I ran out, you ran out of gumption and I was. I got it to where it was good enough and- and it would have been for all intents and purposes- you flew off the snow. Thanks to those.

[00:15:28] Skis. Well, I landed on the snow because of those things it was. I mean, launched other units, but still, you did flying while there was snow on the ground. I did fall these skis. Yeah, there’s no, no chance it.

[00:15:40] Would overrun in the runway because it just stopped. Well, it just dug in, like I mean, that was the problem. Like it was just such a light, like it really was a light snow, it was blowing, it was drifting, it was not like a heavy, good snow for making a snowman right or anything like that. So I think that was the problem it had more than anything. Yeah, if the heart, if it was a wet snow, you would have been fine. Oh yeah, I honestly don’t know if in that snow, the- the ones that I just bought- would be any better, but we’ll talk about that in a little bit, we’ll see. Yeah, so anyway, but that was a slow, ultra stick.

[00:16:17] I did also take the cub on floats and was sorely disappointed. That does not have a lot of power. Yeah, did you figure out why like it? Oh, that’s how it’s been. I mean, that’s how it was at Joe Nall.

[00:16:31] But at Joe Nall at least it had enough power to get off the water and the water has I would say.

[00:16:37] More drag, almost more drag. That has a lot less drag than the snow did. I don’t know. It slipped and fell on a lake because you put your foot into the lake- I don’t, I don’t know how- to the I. I think you wouldn’t have slipped and fallen on this snow either. That is, it was. Yeah, did not sound.

[00:16:58] Like it was making the power it didn’t that it had a Joe Nall I really don’t feel like it did sound.

[00:17:04] The same to me yeah the battery is cold so that took some out of it you don’t want to take him.

[00:17:09] That much out of it I mean you’re right a little bit okay well anyway yeah we were all disappointed.

[00:17:14] By that I was cub is a flop. Yeah, how about as you wind? Well, I was gonna say actually I was able to get like taxing around a little bit when I went to take off and then it wasn’t building up speed, it was slowing down, so I was getting scared that I was gonna have to go out and get it. So I was able to get it back to us enough to where I wasn’t going out on the runway. Yeah, because I didn’t want to walk across the runway and then just have hoof prints all the way across trying to get somebody else wasn’t me. So that’s all the mail. I mean, there was a few of my footsteps out there.

[00:17:46] Too, but yeah, but it was in the middle, it was way, went down and came across, but at any rate. Yeah, I was disappointed by the cub too. I thought for sure that would, it would have no problems on the snow.

[00:17:58] But so I’m having a swansery about that airplane right now and I don’t know what to do so it needs.

[00:18:03] Recovered. You’ve seen the covering. That’s a lot of work because that’s a lot of small airplane and well, it’s fairly light, or 50 size, right, it’s fairly light, lightly constructed. So you have to be really careful and you can’t shrink it too much, otherwise it’ll warp it.

[00:18:18] Like: yeah, stuff. So I’m sorry. No, that’s a good job, I’m. You’re helping make my decision easier. Sorry, but it’s. It’s one of those that I’ve thought about. Just going through turning the covering off, replacing everything inside- new servos, new electronics, new power system, new power system, new receiver- yeah, just then you can buy a whole new one for the same price. Yes, that’s kind of where I’m at this point, so I don’t know what I want to do with that yet. Yeah, I, I get that, but I want balsa, like I don’t.

[00:18:49] Want just like a. Well, that new ish now hanger nine cub would be a would be a nice upgrade. That would be a lot bigger. Yes, it’s a lot bigger. I’d like to stick with that size. Oh, I see. Okay, just for storage.

[00:19:02] For portability and that size though and if you want balsa your selections are extremely limited.

[00:19:08] Right, and that’s the part that’s making me lean towards fixing it, putting the work in just so I have an actual cub I can do stuff with. Yeah, I get it. I think that would be more fun with more power. Like it flew at jonol scale, like it was, yes, almost full throttle the whole time. It was seven eighths.

[00:19:27] Throttle I mean it definitely a fury quarter behind the power curve yeah most of the time and that’s.

[00:19:34] What I mean it’s not overly powered it’s not like I wasn’t surprised the more I thought about it right.

[00:19:40] Yeah, yeah, I see your quandary. I mean it would probably be like, if that’s the size you want to stick with and you want to stick with balsa, it’s probably worth the time to put in. It might be my.

[00:19:53] Only option. Yeah, yeah, hard to do. No, I don’t just take time. Just another plot’s, another magic. I know right, that’s what’s stopping me. It’s like I could just sell it and forget all about it and not have.

[00:20:04] Another project or have another project. Well, you can do that too. I guess, I don’t know I have. So you, you have a couple of recovering projects right now, but more than a couple. I guess we don’t need to talk about that, but one of those you can blame on me by not being able to recover because the airframe’s not complete until I finish the nose. Yeah, so you.

[00:20:27] Can put that off on me. No, I’m not going to that’s, that’s on me. It’s just time like there’s always stuff and I’m sick of saying that, but it’s true, it’s always something. But the cub and the slow.

[00:20:37] Ultra stick were not the only planes you took to fly off the snow no sorry no it’s okay so I did take.

[00:20:46] The sea wind figure, that was a good one. I’ve only flown that at joan all, so I figured that’d be a good one to try and get out and fly. I did so. Let’s. Let’s just say that one I didn’t fully set up as well as I set up other airplanes okay, so I didn’t do what does. For some reason I didn’t go through and do the call outs on switches, ah. So I went through and did my pre-flight and all that kind.

[00:21:22] Of stuff, haven’t flown it, I don’t know at all. Honestly, I think I’ve got like two flights on that thing and did my pre-flights, everything, everything moved. Didn’t move much, but everything moved, so I no big deal. I remember thinking like that’s not a lot of throw, but okay, I mean some airplanes don’t have a lot of throw. I flew it or last summer and he was fine last time I flew it. So took off and I couldn’t bank more than like 10 or 15 degrees and like I was at full throttle and

[00:21:58] It was going away from me still and I had barely had a turn, barely had the ability to bring it around, did actually bring it around to where it was coming towards -huh, did bring it around to where it was coming towards me and then I just I could not keep it in the air, like it just slowly descended and landed. I will say landed because I don’t want to say it was a crash. Yeah, it didn’t break anything. It landed farther away than I wanted to and I actually, like I was concerned what?

[00:22:30] It was going to look like when I got out there and the location that it came to rest was not in a.

[00:22:38] Position that you could then taxi back no it buried itself because there was a lot of snow.

[00:22:43] So the soft fluffy snow came to our rescue this time and that yeah and that probably saved the.

[00:22:49] Airplane but no harm no foul made the trek all the way out there Piper and Crystal came with me.

[00:22:58] So they came out and that was hilarious yeah Piper’s down what was I flying Piper down yeah was I.

[00:23:04] Flying your airplane and you kept saying that I, I don’t know, because I think that’s why I didn’t see the event. We’ll call it an event, because I think I was flying Dave’s airplane. He kept saying, oh, Piper’s down, oh, Piper’s down, because she kept falling down in the snow while you guys were walking out there to get the airplane. Well, it was kind of taller. He said it like four or five times and I just thought that was really funny because she’s just little and, yeah, seeing her fall over in.

[00:23:31] Her big fluffy coat in the snow would have been funny. Well, so we went out, we got it. I was carrying it back and she kept telling me: crash again, so I can go out in the field and get it. I’m like I didn’t crash again. Crash, honey. Thank you very much appreciate that. And secondly, no like right, it’s not the, that’s not the, that’s not the plan, it’s not the point of coming out here and doing this. But thank you appreciate the, the gumption as a face when I said juice, no, so anyway, brought it back up. No harm, no foul. Figured out that I had it in safe mode.

[00:24:07] And so then I flipped that switch off. It was three position switch. Usually when I set stuff up and this, like I said, this was set up differently than what I have been accustomed to doing more recently. I guess not the AS3X+ plus stuff- I didn’t update that, I didn’t do any of the new setup or anything on it. So the switch, actually the positions, were backwards from what I usually do, so normally up and away. For me. It’s slight, it’s normal. Yeah, that’s what I want to be in the air.

[00:24:39] So anything else I have to make it or bring the switch down for flaps or for anything like that. So having it up I thought I was fine, wasn’t and you good, yeah, I just had a thought. I’m gonna write this down before I forget, oh and anyway. So having stuff or having a switch is backwards kind of mess with me. Figure that out pretty quick. What was going on went up again and it was getting blown around quite a bit like it. It was flying, okay, but not like flying.

[00:25:14] Great. There was a little bit of wind, there was a little bit of turbulence and all that kind of stuff. Right after like a couple laps of trying to figure it out, like I started trying to retrim it and stuff too, because it kept kind of going like away from me because obviously the wind was in our back, not realizing that’s what it was doing right. Finally found out then that I had AS3X+ turned off because of the switch positions again and no call outs, and once I got the switch in the right position it flew great, like it did when I was at Joe Null and what I remembered. Yeah, so it’s a good flying.

[00:25:47] Airplane. So you’re still going to keep it then? No, I don’t think, because I know it’s there you were. You were kind of disappointed, slash frustrated, and you had, you had indicated that you would be.

[00:26:00] Offloading that one, and I’m still thinking I’m going to, and here’s the reason why this is the biggest problem I have with that airplane. Unless you’re buying it from me when we’re at a swap meet, then it’s perfect and it’s great. No, but seriously, the one thing I don’t like about it: the way it’s set up for flaps. The flap servo is inside the fuselage and so it has push rods that run from the wing that I would like to take off, because it’s a fairly decent sized airplane to keep in one piece.

[00:26:32] The wing to remove that you have to undo the set screws inside the fuselage yeah for each wing and.

[00:26:40] Then reset it every time you as a time you do yeah that’s kind of a pain and that’s the part I don’t.

[00:26:45] Like. That’s why Daniel’s beaver has to stand one piece, because it’s a pain in the butt to take apart because you have to. You could you how big is his beaver though? It’s pretty good size.

[00:26:55] It’s. I mean, is that, like I don’t remember, is that 36 inches or something, or is that between 36 and 48? It’s a big, that’s a. That’s a good size. It’s a good size. Yeah, that’s gonna say a good size range.

[00:27:08] But something you could do. I mean you. You could figure out how long that push rod needs to be and, instead of using like an easy connector or a screw connector or whatever it is, just put a z-bend in both ends. I have and you still have to. It will start it. Yeah, yeah, that would be hard to do. It stinks.

[00:27:29] I know there’s just no good like it needs to have the servos in the wing. In the wing, yeah, now, they did that to try and keep it out of the water maybe. Yeah, well, just do you fly it with.

[00:27:40] Flaps just lock the flaps out help I’ll do that yeah that’s a bummer but that’s we got space to.

[00:27:48] Keep it in one piece, it’s a non-issue, but it takes up a lot of room. Yeah, somebody like me who’s? Or dave who’s space for me, like I’m out of space, to stop making the face. Come on, I’m not making any.

[00:27:59] Faces you’re making I’m not making any faces that is a face but no I see your point and that might.

[00:28:07] Be a good candidate to take to Toledo. Yes, I’m making a list in my mind of things to go. Yes, and it’s growing immensely, am I about? So was that? It was that all you took to fly that I took to fly? No, actually, I took the umx ultrax also. I thought crystal might want to fly. She decided against.

[00:28:28] It was cold there were too many people well and it was yeah I guess I get that it wasn’t.

[00:28:36] Terribly cold I even took my mitt the glove and I didn’t even use it I had never even got cold yeah.

[00:28:42] Yeah that’s true yeah my toes didn’t for my toes got cold to me I was able to fly for an entire.

[00:28:49] Battery without losing feeling in my thumbs. Yeah, so that was how we’re worrying about it, right? What about you guys? What’d you bring? What’d you fly? What’d you do? What’d you? Hey, go ahead, I brought.

[00:28:58] Two aircraft I bought brought my Polaris EX flying boat and it I flung it off- of snow a lot. It’s, it’s a no, it’s a no-brainer, it’s just fine. So for those that are not familiar, it’s very similar to.

[00:29:12] A North Star or an not an Enforcer but the North Star from Balsa USA only a flat foamy right.

[00:29:19] Yeah, yeah, just fly is awesome for what it is, a great flying little airplane. Flies off water, just like it flies off the snow. Flies off of grass, just like it flies off the snow- yeah, it’s good. Utility, all-around airplane, no wheels, no wheels needed. Yeah, that’s a good all-purpose airplane, yeah, so I knew that one was going to be fine, especially with that fluffy snow. No problem, I knew that was going to be a no-brainer, yep. And then the other one I brought was my FMS 1700 Super Cub on skis, on skis. And I brought the floats just in case because these skis were actually off of.

[00:29:55] My Grand Tundra okay, which was a bigger airplane, right in certain respects. I think they’re both 1700 millimeters, but the Grand Tundra was a more robust, larger, like a weightier- yeah, a little weightier.

[00:30:09] Airplane so it would have had bigger skis. Yeah, saying yes, I thought I thought the skis you brought were the ones that came with that airplane. No, so that makes more sense to me than why his did so.

[00:30:20] Well, I don’t believe they even make skis for that airplane, but I was ready to throw the floats on it just in case things didn’t work out. But it worked beautifully. Oh yeah, I couldn’t ask for anything.

[00:30:30] Better yeah we took videos of it and posted it on the on our Facebook page it does fine with those.

[00:30:36] Skis yeah that perfect combination and of course it’s just a wonderful flying airplane.

[00:30:41] Mm-hmm yeah I finally got to fly it does it flies it flies excellent yeah my only trouble I had.

[00:30:47] With it. I was doing stupid things. I was doing the one-wheel cub thing and I was rocking it back and forth between the left ski, the right ski, left ski, right ski- and it beat you. And it was getting later in the day and resolution was getting a little lower and a white wing on white snow with a white background. Yep, yeah, I dragged one wing tip and it just dug right in. Yep, Tommy thankfully had to.

[00:31:11] Go turn it around. For me it was no big deal. I just put it back on top of the snow and you taxi back. Yeah, so no harm, no foul. So that’s all I did. Yeah, wonderful flying combination. Yeah, all I took was the, the old FMS Kingfisher, and the skis that come with that one are too small. Yeah, I, when I saw them I was like, yeah, don’t look for the type of snow that we had. Hard pack, I’m sure it’s fine. Yeah, fine.

[00:31:35] Yeah I saw those and I thought my skis were perfectly fine just saying I can’t take credit for the size of.

[00:31:41] The skis on the Kingfisher because I didn’t design them. That’s what came with the airplane. Yeah, apparently they have different snow in China, I something. I mean they kind of I like the setup worked. Yeah, they were bigger. Yeah, if they were just a little bit wider and longer, yeah, so, but I mean that’s a common complaint. Yeah, I was still able to fly. I just couldn’t really do touch and goes.

[00:32:03] Yeah you had to be careful with your touchdowns they would dig right in it’ll un-touches.

[00:32:07] Yeah, and touches, stops. Yeah, touches and stops, yeah, but I think that was yeah, that was. I got like four flights because I have four batteries that fit that one. We have no power in our field to recharge, so, yeah, I don’t think I took, I didn’t take anything else, so it was a good day. Yep, nobody crashed, nobody took planes home in pieces. Yeah, Reggie was there. He flew the giant cub. Well, whatever that, the carbon ss, carbon, z, carbon, the orange one, yeah, the big orange one.

[00:32:37] And then he tried to fly the ec. What is it ec? Oh, the ec 1500, 1500, which he did fly. He didn’t. Yeah, he got it. Yeah, he had to just kind of keep the nose up. That nose ski wasn’t big enough. Yeah, if he had.

[00:32:49] The skis on it. Yeah, I didn’t catch that. Yeah, but same thing where skis are just too small for that type of snow. Yeah, once again I think it was a harder snow, oh no, yeah, well, none of us would have had any trouble had we had, unless snow or wetter a little. Yeah, exactly, wetter, that’s a.

[00:33:07] Good if it was wetter. If it was a wetter snow- there’s a wet snow, there’s dry snow, there’s some dry factory. Yeah, yeah, the snow we had was fluffy and deep, yeah, so I wasn’t sure about getting back to the field. To be honest with you, I’m glad you went back first, only like not necessarily being afraid of getting stuck, but I was concerned with where the hell’s the road. Oh yeah, it wasn’t easy to see.

[00:33:33] And I’m not entirely sure I stayed on it. To be honest, I was the first one there. Well, we all followed your track, yeah so, but yeah, that car of mine does. It does awesome and conditions like

[00:33:44] That and I knew the exhibition was going to be fine yeah you don’t think it’s the car I’ll call you.

[00:33:49] Here’s the car that’s an SUV, oh well, whatever, that’s nice. Yeah, it’s like the, because it sits a little bit higher so it does better in the snow. That regular car doesn’t sit much higher than a.

[00:33:57] Car does sits higher than mine I think yours is more of a crossover yeah either way it does a good.

[00:34:04] Job in the snow so I was yeah I was really surprised you were sitting back there with no issues none.

[00:34:08] Whatsoever and it is it was deep in spots too it was at least a couple places it was very deep yeah.

[00:34:14] You were plowing it with your- yeah, with the fish or whatever it is, yeah, but all in all, a pretty good day. I’m glad we went, and me too. Thanks, Dave, good idea. I appreciate that there’s you guys coming out and playing Dave’s idea. So I said thanks, Dave, yes, because it was a good idea. I didn’t say thanks, Tommy, because it wasn’t your idea. Okay, still want to go night fly in the snow? Oh, no, thanks, Dave. You realize it gets colder at night, right? You also realize the wind usually quits.

[00:34:47] Yeah it’s still colder at night I’d be game for that yeah I think that reflecting off yeah that.

[00:34:54] Would be really cool. Oh, I don’t know what I would. I mean, really, all I have right now- that would be off the snow anyway, with lights- would be the radian. Yeah, that’s really all I got that.

[00:35:05] Still look cool I got wood yeah I got loners.

[00:35:10] That’s true. So anyway, yeah, that was digging my skis of work. Now they might out there. Actually I bet they would work really red right mine now. Maybe we should see what Saturday looks like. Okay, we’ll see.

[00:35:25] Yeah Saturday night oh I gotta get up early Sunday though well that’s not that early.

[00:35:33] Yeah, not that early and yes, dark, early, dark. By the way, dark is 5- 30, so it will not like you can be home after flying at night now at 6- 15, especially if it’s really cold. Maybe 10 after.

[00:35:52] Oh this is stupid I’m late but yeah how about anyway yeah it was it was a good time what else.

[00:36:00] We got smalls Dave was starting to say speaking of getting that high stupid early more in the morning I was up at 2 a.m to go to me too Jamesville Wisconsin yeah stupid early

[00:36:15] Yeah, really yeah. So we went to the rock river aero modeler society swap meet. They moved it this year, which was a very excellent, necessary thing to do and a lot better venue. Last year it was in beloit, if I remember right, yes, yes, and this year they moved it farther for us. Thanks, guys. Oh it’s.

[00:36:37] Like 10 minutes it wasn’t very far but it was farther am I wrong no but anyway it was a much.

[00:36:44] Bigger building much better setup and it was a nice little swap meet it was a nice one I’ve.

[00:36:50] Been to short at Toledo. Yeah, before we start talking about like what we did or did not purchase, I finally got to meet Terry Dunn and Terry Dunn finally got to meet me and see that I am not AI or some kind of made up person. So I’m really happy to now say that Terry and I have made acquaintance and hopefully we’ll meet each other again in the future. See each other again in the future do.

[00:37:20] Hobby stuff again in the future. How about that stuff? Yeah, yeah, no, it was good that the circle was finally closed, or the whatever the dots were finally connected, the yes. However you want to, I will finally put it. Yes, it’s not as fun now. How many years has been now? I know it’s been a couple.

[00:37:38] Right almost two years I think well because last year yeah easily yeah it’s been a while so well.

[00:37:46] Because Joe and all was a year and a half ago with Fitz and Lee that’s right and we knew him before that.

[00:37:53] I could talk to him and stuff, yeah, so, yeah, anyway, yeah, I’m glad to have finally met Terry, Terry’s cool cat. I like him. Yeah, he’s okay. Can’t wait to hang out with him again. He’s not bad. I mean, he gave me an airplane. I mean just a, just an all-around cool guy. Yeah, he’s all right. Anyway, thanks, Terry, if you’re listening. I appreciate the airplane. I’m going to get started on it shortly and I’m probably going to

[00:38:24] Be done with mine before Ron’s done. Yes, Terry’s a nice guy. We all appreciate Terry RC roundtable. I’m sad that he gave you the airplane so soon. I wish you would have waited- I don’t know- another six or eight months so I’ve had a chance to be done. I mean, it’ll take an evening like: yeah, I gotta figure out electronics, though that’s the biggest thing I don’t have. Yeah, I don’t even know where to begin.

[00:38:52] Small is it one of those Amazon little power kits we were talking smaller than that oh really smaller.

[00:38:56] Okay I think he was a 2s800 on his or something oh yeah we’ll have to ask him yeah that’s how he uses.

[00:39:03] All right, yeah, 2208. Maybe, Terry, if you’re listening, send Ron or I or both of us or all three of us even what we need to power these little guys with. Thanks. Let’s just use this to get a personal message out that we can very easily- I mean, I’m lazy, so if I don’t have to type something so much.

[00:39:22] The better wow I know my little so yeah swap me swap me you met Terry there yep I sold nothing.

[00:39:32] Yeah you didn’t take anything and you didn’t buy anything I bought nothing we were checking his.

[00:39:37] Temperature. Yeah, there was something wrong. Yeah, I mean there was stuff there that you liked, but nothing, really not. Yeah, that pushed you towards pulling the wad of cash out of your pocket and

[00:39:47] Handing it over to somebody I know I was really surprised unlike you I was proud of you with what.

[00:39:54] You bought yeah well I mean only because you like it only because I didn’t have to buy it yeah that’s.

[00:40:00] What say what you from buying it is that what happened that’s exactly what happened but I was I.

[00:40:04] Mean, I told myself like it was so okay. So what we’re talking about here is the, the e-flight, the f-18 blue angel edition, 80 mil, 80 millimeter, that Ron has two of now as soon as we walked in.

[00:40:21] What, Dave, he’s working on, have the entire flight crew. I’ll say seven. I said blue angels, he’s got the gray one too, so he has three of these things. So he has half, has half the flight demonstration squadron.

[00:40:32] Exactly. Yeah, at any rate, as soon as we walk in, like, and that’s another thing, so we got there pretty early, there’s about a half hour early- and then by the time we figured out where to go in and all that kind of stuff, half hour early before setup, I was gonna say right, yeah, no, like open. Yeah, the door is open like an hour and a half after we got there, supposed to be open to people.

[00:40:57] Getting tables an hour before they most open to people getting tables at seven right and I think.

[00:41:02] We ended up showing up like 6- 23- yeah it was. We were early, we made good time getting there, didn’t? We didn’t stop it. Yeah, we didn’t have to stop anywhere, which normally we stop somewhere, but it was so early in the morning nothing was open. Anyway, we get in- because they’re letting people in already, which was surprising- and we get in and there’s already guys setting up tables and like, we walk in and we figure out what tables we’re going to grab and the first thing I see is one of these e-flight f-18s in a box up on a shelf. I’m like, hey, that’s kind of cool. And then

[00:41:36] Kind of told myself. I was like, well, if I do well today, if I sell the stuff I’m getting rid of, and if I make a little bit of money, maybe I’ll buy that. And I did, which surprised me, because this is what.

[00:41:51] Tommy does. This is usually what happens. Oh, I like that, I think I’m going to buy that, to which you and I like the same things a lot we did. So I’m like: all right, Tommy’s gonna buy that, cool, I don’t have to. And then Tommy hems and haws, goes back and forth. Then Tommy talks himself out of it without telling Ron, without telling me, that he’s not getting it. So then it usually gets sold to somebody else. Tommy’s like: oh, I wasn’t gonna get it anyway. I’m like really, yeah, but no, you actually.

[00:42:27] Walked. No, I made a pact, kind of with myself: I do like that airplane. I like your airplane. Actually, I’ve liked it since I had to work on the first one of yours, the gray one, because it’s nice, it’s well, I think it’s well done, it looks good, well engineered, it looks right, the proportions are right for a foamy. Okay, it looks pretty, pretty darn good and it seems to fly good.

[00:42:52] So, yeah, I made a pact with myself. I took what? Three airplanes, complete, ready or I don’t even remember what you’re talking that bad. Well, they weren’t like bind and fly, but they were completed. Well, one of them was bind and fly. Anyway, I sold enough to where I made a pact with myself. I said if I make what it would cost to buy that airplane, I’ll just buy it. And there’s no hem-hawing. I’m not gonna go over there and talk to the guy like other people would do- hey, what would you take? And then walk away, blah, blah. I just said I’m gonna buy that if I sell this. And I sold the.

[00:43:25] Stuff I needed to sell and went over there and just bought it, didn’t even think about it. Very nice, yeah, I was glad you and it didn’t take long. Honestly, I sold, sold a lot of the stuff, like even before, I think technically the doors were open to the public, which that’s how swap meets go. That’s why it’s best to get a table, yeah, anyway, yep, I bought that. And then the same guy had an x-fly su-27. It’s a twin, it’s a kind of a unique setup. It’s a twin 50 millimeter edf foamy, of course.

[00:43:59] But you can. You can fly it with the gear off or the gear on, doesn’t have re-tracks, but it came with a ar-631 receiver, so I- yeah, I- bought that for a really good price, took it home.

[00:44:11] And it’s already programmed to AS3X+ plus and it’s got the launch hand-in-down mode already.

[00:44:17] Enabled and I’m ready to go. So those are the two airplanes I bought. So do you plan on flying that first with gear on? Yeah, yeah, yes. Well, that’ll be a. That’ll be a maiden at eli if it’s.

[00:44:29] That way I think that you don’t have to deal with that instant hand launch right well and then you can.

[00:44:34] Tell you can see what speed does it take off how much do I have to throw it well yeah it’s a.

[00:44:41] Good idea to have it done that way. It came from x-fly with the. It doesn’t have flaps, just has ailerons. But the it has the ailerons wide right into a channel. Same for the elevators. It’s not a full flying stab, it’s got elevators but the same thing. They are wide into one channel. So I undid all that and I plugged the elevators separately and I plugged the ailerons in separately so I can do flapperons and I can also mix the elevators in with ailerons too in certain flight modes so I get.

[00:45:12] Like really crazy roll rates and things like that’s the plan we’ll see something fun to tinker with.

[00:45:17] Yeah crash whatever or crash yeah but then you got invested in it’s a good experiment yeah.

[00:45:22] If I crash the airplane, I still have a receiver that’s worth more than what I paid for the entire airplane. I agree, so I think I did okay, excellent job. You did yep, and I feel like I got a fair deal.

[00:45:32] On the on the f-18 as well it’s brand new in the box like we won’t talk about they had never when.

[00:45:37] Oh, it was a is buying to fly, by the way, so it has the nice has everything in it, so it’s way better than Ron’s. It’s way better than Ron’s, and I paid for less for it than what Ron paid.

[00:45:47] For his. So anyway, no, but like good for you. No, I didn’t. I mean like I’m good for you. I don’t mean that sarcastically, like I’m good for you but yeah, good for you to this day. Of all the swap meets I’ve been to, all the stores I’ve been to and stuff, I’ve only seen two of those in a box and I’m pretty sure just that one other one for sale. So you don’t see them often. Oh, the one you

[00:46:19] Bought at jonal, yeah, or the one you, yeah, okay, I don’t remember seeing any other ones. Yeah, I don’t recall seeing them either ever, yeah, I’ve never seen other. Well, I’ve never seen the great one.

[00:46:27] Other than the one you bought. Indicator of all places, yeah, so of I guess of all of them I have seen for sale between the two of us. We have bought them all. I’m not buying anymore. I’ve got one that.

[00:46:40] Might for me yeah I mean if you find one that’s as good a deal as I got you should buy it I think.

[00:46:46] They fly great yes I can’t wait to fly haven’t actually flown well the only thing that with.

[00:46:53] Mine, I, I will probably- I haven’t decided yet- to what to do with the. What about the receiver situation? Switch out. I mean it would be okay, but still, well, I would like to kind of set it up the way I set up this little x-ly thing. I would like to set up the flaps separately and of course, the aileron separately and the and the stabs separately, that’s six channels or functions, if you will. So I would need a, a minimum probably of a 10 channel, and now I don’t think an 8 channel would cut it, because you got a flap and then you’ve got retracts and that one has flaps. My mind just went.

[00:47:28] Blank on it. It does it okay, yeah, so anyway, I couldn’t remember. Between that one, these small ones that I’ve got, at a minimum I would need to buy the a channel, the AS3X+, plus one whichever.

[00:47:39] What is that? The a360t? Is that what it is? I don’t know. It starts with an eight either way. Haven’t decided what I’m going to do about that yet, but probably I’ll. I’ll eventually upgrade the receiver, yeah, but otherwise, yeah, I’m excited to fly that one too. That’ll be fun summer, mm-hmm, yep, Dave.

[00:48:00] I bought the best thing ever he did. Yeah, yeah, I spent ten dollars more than I spent there. That’s true. That’s true, I’ve bought a box of wheels. It was a good deal, though there was a lot of good stuff.

[00:48:16] Yeah, there’s a lot of good. Well, and there was a strut in there too. There’s one of those all parts, yeah, yeah, good deal. There’s 30 bucks right there, right, if I hadn’t bought the airplanes, I probably would have scoured around and bought some stock to keep in the workshop, you think? So? I mean, like I don’t know. I mean you’ve done it before. You’ve bought cases of stuff that I haven’t bought anything like that in a while. Neither have I. I need to restock. So you bought all those propellers and didn’t want them, so they’re sitting down here now. That’s been a while ago, yeah, but that’s a ton of.

[00:48:49] Propellers it is it’s a lot of propellers have you used any no if I used any yeah no yeah I’ve used a.

[00:48:55] Couple of the ones that actually for me. Yeah, I, oh, I saved a couple or used a couple. Nice, actually, one of them is on the t38 that dave built for me. Huh cool, yep, I don’t know what I know. Like I took one off of it for some reason to put it on something else, but anyway, it’s kind of an oddball size, I think.

[00:49:13] They’re four and three quarter by four and three quarters yeah it’s supposed to be on there yeah.

[00:49:16] They’re square, what I would call a square propeller. So yeah, there was some in that and I had a quarter anyway. Yeah, I don’t have to buy wheels for a while. Daniel and Reggie also went. What did?

[00:49:29] Daniel buy absolutely nothing oh sha what did Reggie buy absolutely not he didn’t buy he tried to.

[00:49:40] Though but he gave up too early he dilly-dallied too much and lost out on the deal yeah so he was.

[00:49:46] Looking at a b2. They’re the big free, that big free wing, yeah, which I thought. I didn’t look close at it so whatever, but it felt like a really good deal that he could have. It was looked to me.

[00:50:02] Like it was he got an astonishing deal offered to him yeah why he didn’t and he passed even and he.

[00:50:07] Really wants one of those. Yeah, he’s weird, I wasn’t gonna say that, but oh, sorry. Well, I don’t take it back. But I mean, the day of spending wasn’t over at the SWAT meet, like because we made a, we made a small detour on the way home. We did, we went to Brian’s on the.

[00:50:22] Way home. Dynamic or Dynamic Balsa- easy for you to say it was, wasn’t it? I just bought a couple receivers that I wanted and some glue- need some more super glue. What else did I get? Just a couple different skis, different size skis, and that was it. It’s always fun going to Brian’s because I like.

[00:50:45] Seeing so I gauge the interest or his prices on used airplanes based on what was there previously.

[00:50:56] The last time I was there, which for me had been over a year, and there are a lot of airplanes that have been there for several visits, okay so. But then some airplanes come and go and you don’t even see them, right? So I guess it’s really kind of hard to see how he is on pricing that way. But I mean, I guess at the end of the day, if it’s a price you’re willing to pay, then it’s worth it to you, whatever it is. But there were a couple of airplanes upstairs that

[00:51:26] I was interested in but we couldn’t find the wing I said we did I played the where is the fuselage.

[00:51:33] To match this wing yeah or vice versa right but Daniel found a combination up there yeah which I.

[00:51:39] Still thought it was Dave so what was the whole how did this go then sorry so I was confused if.

[00:51:45] Y’all don’t know that Daniel’s got a thing for giant stick with g38s in them, loud g38s in them. I’ve lost track of how many he has at this point, but he’s got several of these big sticks.

[00:52:01] And he found one that he’s doesn’t have yet. There’s a low wing stick, and it’s not a stick- we don’t know, actually, what it is, yeah, but it’s a low winger and it was looked like it’s brand new. It had a us-41 on it, so not a real powerhouse engine, but, yeah, it doesn’t look like it’s ever been flown way more horsepower than this thing needs- hopefully not as loud as a g38s. It’s got the same muffler- oh wonderful, yeah, a resonator augmenter. It’s more like a look by. Yeah, bear, pull fire there.

[00:52:33] You go, but anyway it’s got a us-41 on it. Nice build. Not the best covering job I’ve ever seen, but it looks new. Just whoever covered. It’s not the best, but it’s. It’s perfectly acceptable. It’s, it’s fine. That’s what we go for. It’s fine, it’s fine. It looks essentially new. No receiver in it, but everything else is there. Had servos and had servos and no, no receiver. But it has switch, which I

[00:53:04] Know if I trust the switch, I myself would probably throw it away and put a new one in. But eh, whatever. But everything else looks new ish. It’s in olive drab which is different. I’ve not seen a stick in olive drab. It actually looks pretty good. So it doesn’t look bad. It’s got yellow markings on the tail, but it’s not a military scheme, which is kind of weird. Usually when you see something on olive drab it’s going to have military scheme of some sort. So I just what they had left over and you had to cover it. A lot, a lot of delivering, yeah what, I’m not real crazy about it, it’s got.

[00:53:38] Some fluorescent trim on the top of the wing it’s different yeah it’s definitely different it is.

[00:53:43] Different. Yeah, it’s like somebody color. It was colorblind or something, I don’t know. Maybe, maybe they did that for visibility, I don’t know. It’s on there, it’s okay, it’ll work, it’ll fly, it’s. It’s red and yellow and blue and olive, drab, anyway. Yeah, good deal, great color combination, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I feel like baby puke, but he does. Apparently asked brian about the price on it and it was a little more than he was willing to pay, a little more than he actually had on him.

[00:54:15] But I had a, a trade item with me. I still was packing around my top flight p40, so sad it’s. It was hard to get rid of, but such a beautiful airplane, we didn’t even swap for it. So daniel’s got himself a big stick, a giant, sweet and low stick kind of ish. Yeah, it’s got inflatable tires on it. Overall it’s pretty nice and I have gotten rid of my p40, which- and now you have some-

[00:54:48] Extra room. Yeah, I’ve got room. Actually I got a place to put my navalized cub. So the cub, as soon as it warms up, we’ll go out to the garage and live where the p40 used to live. Nice, because right now I

[00:55:00] Have nowhere to put it so it’s still on the work bench well I mean it is what it is yeah.

[00:55:04] So, and I’ve been wanting to get rid of that airplane because I can’t bring myself to fly it. I’ve got way too much in it and way too much time in it. Yeah, I had to phone it for you, I’m sure you would have. So it’s gone, I no longer have to worry about it. Yep, we went to put daniel’s plane in.

[00:55:24] His truck, which we took. Yeah, we took you guys. You guys had to take daniel’s truck because your, your expedition is still kind of the transition is roofie, but not really. Yeah, so but I mean it’s a truck, I mean it’s a full-size nissan design truck, I mean lots of room in the bed, yeah, no.

[00:55:46] So Reggie and I went out and messed with it and keep in mind, this is like six degrees outside, his wind’s blowing, yeah. So Reggie and I go out and try to stuff this thing in the truck. We need to get the fuselage in the bed or and get the wing, but, but not both.

[00:56:01] One-piece wing big one-piece wing yeah big one-piece wing yeah it only fits in the bed.

[00:56:07] Diagonally barely so well daniel didn’t take the trailer obviously we didn’t take the trailer as well.

[00:56:15] But he will have to take the trailer if he’s going to do that in one trip to our field unless he.

[00:56:21] Transports it with the tailgate down or something yeah no it’ll have to definitely live in the.

[00:56:24] Trailer tried to stick it in your truck yeah it would not fit in my vehicle.

[00:56:32] So we tried two trips to Dynamic Balsa in 48 hours, oh gosh. So we were off monday because of the holiday and yeah, so, yeah, we went up first thing monday morning. Did you buy anything else? While you were there, daniel did buy something else. What do you buy? He bought himself a vintage goldberg elettro in the kit, in the box, so nice. So did you notice he had a giant sweet and low stick?

[00:56:55] In the box too I didn’t look yep just across from the from the checkout counter it’s on the.

[00:57:02] Shelves up there and I got it’s been there a while two triangle pieces of stock.

[00:57:10] So it wasn’t a wasted trip to 38 cents worth of balsa for 50 a day, and he didn’t even have the size that I needed. No, well, that’s right. So, yeah, I got two sticks and daniel bought two airplanes and daniel bought two sticks. Almost, yeah, I see what you did there: two sticks, there’s just sticks. Yeah, this will be a final lie, yeah, so, yeah, I think so. So is he going to build that electra then?

[00:57:36] I believe. So yes, or is he going to? First airplane he ever built was an electric, oh really. So I bought this as a cool sentiment. Yeah, yeah, I think that’s new in the box. It had a set of wheels and landing gear and stuff in it. It’s like who puts landing gear in electro, but hot anyway. So he’s got more.

[00:57:55] Wheels, probably throwing my box of wheels now. You got a 10 and 20 cent box of wheels. See making money, oh cool. So yeah, worked out. It was a good time. I’m glad I got to meet terry and I’m glad I got to get.

[00:58:09] An f-18 and the s-27 was icing on the cake nice I had no cake I had no icing well if you bought some.

[00:58:18] Cake on the way home. You did get a couple of receivers, I guess. Yeah, skis not exciting stuff. Glue- yeah, it’s kind of exciting. One in the airplane because you’re gonna put those receivers in airplanes, presumably. So there you go. That’s kind of exciting. Yeah, I think I only needed one.

[00:58:34] I bought one just in case. You bought two. You only needed one, I needed one, yes, so I bought that one and I bought one just in case. Oh, you bought an extra one just in case. Yes, cool, anyway, you guys, good, or?

[00:58:49] What else like yeah that was I think that’s it just been doing some building got stuff going on.

[00:58:56] On the table, you guys building anything. I don’t know me building. So, terry, while we were at the swap meet he was unable to sell his little foamy profile xb70. Oh, I forgot about that. So I like that airplane. I looked at it and I set it off the side. I was going to talk to him about later, see if he’d take 20 bucks for it because he had 30 on it. But I’m hey, I’m cheap what I was gonna give him the 30.

[00:59:29] For it to be honest until you guys did whatever and I was like oh okay I just sat off side and got.

[00:59:34] Busy packing stuff up and forgot about it, and terry just walks over and hands me this thing. I said: here you go, thank you, took it home, stripped it down, filled all the nicks and I’ve been stripped. Hold on.

[00:59:46] Stripped it down. By the way, this is a profile foamy. Stripped it down. Go on, I don’t even know what that means. With the profile foamy took all the electronics out of it. Took electronics out of it, took the decals off of it. There is no out of it, it’s off of it, everything is on it.

[01:00:03] You’re not wrong anymore there’s nothing on it now other than just the filler and maybe some.

[01:00:10] Primer filling and sanding on it for a week now it’s ready for a coat of paint new decals so it’s.

[01:00:16] Getting painted it’s getting painted yeah profile foamy getting filled sanded and painted you’re.

[01:00:23] Gonna paint it white. Of course it’s xb70. It’s made of white foam. You got that too. Yep, well, it’s balsa filler, which is white. However, it’s not white. White it’s okay. Tan white needs to have like a.

[01:00:40] Foam filler or something because it’s not balsa no it’s just.

[01:00:46] Anyway the whites don’t match it has to look good and I got white paint laying around so.

[01:00:52] It’s going to get a shot of white paint are you concerned at all about the weight that might.

[01:00:56] Add. And now I’m going to put: it’s good it can go on so thin, because I’m painting white on white. It’ll go on super thin, cool, not covering anything, so it’ll be fine. And then some new decals for it and it’s good to go. And then I’ve got your- oh that impossible to fly- flying wing, the bucking bronco. That thing sucked all right. It was awful terrible. I stripped all that tape and decoupage and whatever else was on there off of it is.

[01:01:26] Way lighter oh really yeah well that would certainly help it does it flex a lot though.

[01:01:32] No more than a foam wing with a carbon fiber rod in it will.

[01:01:38] So anyway it’s stripped down well that will do nothing but help it I mean because it was kind.

[01:01:43] Of heavy lights are off. It lights were actually kind of messed up so, yeah, I just threw them away. It was going to salvage them and it’s like: nah, never mind, you’re gonna relight it if we can get.

[01:01:52] It to fly I’ll relight it so this is the one tommy purchased at joan all a year and a half ago yes.

[01:01:58] And had nothing but no luck with it. Yeah, finally did end up flying it kind of the next year, six months ago, but, like I did, no, it was not good. It was not good. Yeah, although it did, I will say this: I will give the that airplane this credit. It did teach me proper launching technique for those types of airplanes. I feel like I got that down because it was so difficult to fly. Yeah, and.

[01:02:32] It’s tough as nails and it’s kind of tough as nails. Yeah, I got a lot of practice trying to launch a lot of abuse. Yeah, so, and it will well, I hope. I hope it does well for you. I hope we’re going to get it to fly. I hope you many, many hours of fun flying that us. Up until about three hours ago, I was going to paint.

[01:02:53] It gray oh but now what white or blue red it’ll go back to red that was because it was red.

[01:03:00] Before or something, oh yeah, but, but I was. I realized when I was cutting out new fins for it they look exactly like a shark bin. So I was going to do a shark phenom in the gray, be kind of cool. But it was gray, and if I were to hand it back to you? Oh, no, I’m not taking it back, no, it’s yours.

[01:03:14] Dave, if it flies like a dream, nope, no, I, I gave up on it and I moved on. All right, gray it is, I was.

[01:03:22] Gonna say so in that case make it look like a shark make it look like a cloud make it look right yeah.

[01:03:27] Put white on the bottom for a great white shark I was actually gonna leave the bottom white and top.

[01:03:32] Gray, there you go. Perfect. I mean no reason not to. I mean make it invisibly, if you could, but- but you install like chrome MonoKote on it. There you go. I hate chrome MonoKote. I’m not a fan either. It’s so difficult to work with anyway. Good enough, so work bitch. Yeah, I have nothing. I’m gonna build the plane I got from terry, but that’s like I said, that’s like an evening’s worth of gluing parts together and once we figure out the power system, that’s really all I’ve got on the queue, although I was

[01:04:05] Going to add lights to the to the glow stick, which is a turned into a little bit bigger project than I was expecting. I figured it’d be a bigger project, 60 size hangar knight, all balsa stick, but I think I’ve got the wing and covered and ready to put the lights in once I figure out how I want to do the lights. Because I want to do the lights? Because the fuselage is still covered. Sorry, we’re going off on different tangents here, but I don’t want to disturb the covering on the fuselage because it’s still in really good shape and not mouse damaged like the stuff.

[01:04:36] In the wing, so I want to. Whatever I do on the wing, I would like to be able to complement in the fuselage. So I haven’t quite figured out how I want to tackle that. And because it’s glow powered, I don’t want to just stick the lights outside like on the covering, like you did on the stick on that.

[01:04:54] Solar stick well you could get the exterior ones that are coated yeah but you could get the slime.

[01:04:58] Yeah, from the glow exhaust start like that. It’d be hard to clean and they’d get sticky over time and a new engine on it make it electric. No, I’m not going to do that. No, that would be an electro stick. It would be an elect to grow electro glow stick. Elect glow- I don’t want to say

[01:05:16] Electro yeah I can’t see it electro stick it’d be a glow grow glow oh boy what it’d be a glow stick.

[01:05:28] Well, it’s a glow stick now, because it’s it, it will glow in the dark and it’s also glow powered, so it’s a glow stick. That’s what’s going to say on the side of the fuselage or the wing I’m having, like I said, I haven’t figured out how I want to do that yet, but that’s really the. That’s the only projects I have going on, so perhaps we should start on the trimotor. I’ve said that I don’t know.

[01:05:54] How many times? And I get laughed at every time- at least that’s what I hear from me- when you’re like, yeah, we should, because we don’t ever not? True? I don’t laugh and I believe we do. I agree. I just I’m not sure where to start. Honestly, that’s a big project to the beginning. Wherever we decide, the beginning is: how do you eat a whale? One bite at a time? That’s what they say. I’ve never eaten a whale. I haven’t ate this. I would assume it would work. Want to?

[01:06:21] Oh I got two weeks to get my projects cleared up and then Reggie stearman shows up my house so.

[01:06:27] Tell him no and start on a trimotor I’d rather work on Reggie stearman.

[01:06:36] Yeah, maybe I could, when I get back from my work trip, maybe I’ll prioritize, really prioritize, and get a start on that. Yeah, don’t leave it anyway. Okay, okay, that’s all I got me too.

[01:06:52] I’m good okay do you want you started it you want to end it well thanks everybody for listening.

[01:06:59] I’m Tom I’m Ron and I’m dave good night good night we hope you enjoyed this episode of the rc.

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