Ep 179: Spring’s here. Now what?

[00:00:06] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I’m Ron, I’m Tom and I’m dave. Tom’s got me going here, well, Ron’s got me going. Well, I don’t have anybody going, almost like you had forgotten how to do it. I did actually. My mind was thinking of something else as I was starting. I hope it was airplanes. It was actually clearing my throat, but that’s okay. Oh yeah, we.

[00:00:35] Missed that didn’t we did nobody did it missed our opportunity dang it next time hello gentlemen.

[00:00:41] Hey so once again it’s been a month since we recorded so I’ve forgotten how to do half the.

[00:00:46] Stuff. We do it’s. It’s okay, I’ll come back. What’s going on? Yeah, that sucks, by the way: wanting to fly and not being able to, yeah, and having the temperature being conducive to flying, but you.

[00:01:02] Can’t fly because it’s so dang windy. We had, I think, 50 mile an hour wind gusts a couple days ago. Also a couple days ago it was 70, yeah, and then that night it snowed. Yes, right, yeah, it was 76 yesterday and then snowed that night whatever, yeah, and then when I went to work it was in snow.

[00:01:20] Yep, yep, illinois weather. We complain about it every year. The wind is specifically I’m talking about, and it feels even worse now, but it does. It feels terrible every year. No like this feels worse.

[00:01:31] Than normal. Oh, I don’t remember this high of wind gusts. Yeah, it’s sustained 30 gusting 50 plus for a couple days at a time. It’s getting a little old, yeah, and it’s first day of spring, so maybe it’ll get.

[00:01:46] Better happy spring maybe I don’t know happy first day of spring I mean I mean I feel as though it is.

[00:01:54] Usually not this bad but you’re right it is windy early in the year and it calms down it does.

[00:02:00] Eventually we’ll have a good summer I hope so I hope it’s just awful though looking at the monitor.

[00:02:05] And it says 65 degrees. I was thinking maybe this weekend we’ll see how the weather is. I don’t know if you’ve seen saturday. I did see saturday, but you’re about to say you’re busy. No, oh, I was expecting.

[00:02:16] No, nice, sorry, I pushed the button on the no. I, yes, I did check the weather. Actually you’re not going to believe. Well, you might believe this. Lori actually told me via text, so it’s in writing. Today she said you should probably think about flying saturday because it looks like it might it.

[00:02:36] Might be good to go fly saturday. So, yes, well, I hope to do more than think about it. Well, we’ll see. Right, hopefully the wind holds off. It’s because the tips are going to be decent. It’s supposed to be five to ten. Yeah, I can handle that, but when it was supposed to be five to ten last time when we went out to the field it was 15 to 20.. Oh well, here’s hoping that’s all we can do. Yeah, so you guys went flying. Yeah, we want to start with that. Sure we want to do. Yeah, we went flying. Go on, dave, because it was you guys. Yes, because what was it? You were, I was at work, you were. I’ve said it before.

[00:03:11] I’ll say it again your job sucks very unconducive to fun things I know so yeah go on what as of.

[00:03:20] This I know. Oh yeah, that’s two. Yeah, so anyway, dave. So yeah, we got a break in. The weather was. It wasn’t too awful cold, it was bearable. Yeah, I don’t remember what the temperature. I think it was two weeks ago: low to mid 50s. Yeah, supposed to have been five to ten, but it was more like 15 to 20.. But closest we’ve had for a while. So grabbed some brand new planes and headed out.

[00:03:47] Yeah Ron you said you wanted to like call this episode three maidens in a funeral or something like.

[00:03:53] That. Well, when we were at the field and I don’t- I don’t even remember what I think dave made in three airplanes- yes, I got three in. I think that’s where the thought first came, but I don’t remember where the funeral came from. I don’t remember killing somebody. Somebody crashed something or was Reggie.

[00:04:09] There. No, no, no, I mean genuinely I was. I was genuinely asking: was Reggie there? Because he usually was the one? Oh, not because he crashes. I was just trying to figure out who all was there. Daniel was there.

[00:04:22] Everybody but bill came by for a while yeah nice so but so yeah I guess that made no sense because.

[00:04:28] Dave made in three I made in two and no I guess not crashes but well I had a lot of crashes but it.

[00:04:36] Was an extremely durable airplane and maybe that’s what got my mind thinking about that see but and then.

[00:04:41] We go back and forth like it were those actually crashes. Not really, they were bad takeoffs, they were mishaps. It hits the ground, bounces four foot back into the air, yeah, but it’s still flyable after that, yeah.

[00:04:53] It’s not I don’t I don’t know I didn’t count them as on my crash sheet so I wouldn’t have either.

[00:05:01] Especially with that airplane well you didn’t we’ll talk about what you’re yeah okay so I inherited.

[00:05:07] Tommy’s flying wing that he got in jonal two years ago, yeah, and apparently was not able to make it fly the entire week he was there. Nobody really could. Yeah, I guess I wasn’t there, but I guess multiple attempts were made by multiple people. Yes, including the people who sold it to you, is that?

[00:05:27] Correct no the guy that sold it to me did not try to fly it okay so yeah he gave me plenty of.

[00:05:33] Advice did- oh god, don’t look at me like that- and Ron’s phone every time, yeah, anyway. So you tried to fly it multiple times and you took it last year to joe knoll and tried to fly it at night. I did bucking, bronco, all kinds of issues. Oh man, yes, it’s, and it’s not a large wing by any.

[00:05:55] Means it’s fairly small I don’t know how big it is 30 maybe yeah 30 inches it’s yeah it’s small and.

[00:06:02] Very well under my ownership it was very highly wing loaded well it’s it’s I mean it’s airfoiled.

[00:06:09] It’s actually it’s molded right yeah so we don’t know who we don’t know what it is I’ve spent.

[00:06:15] Some time on the internet searching wings and that wingspan and I can’t come up with anything. I don’t know what it is. So it’s now the sharkinator looks cool, yeah it. So I stripped it. You had a. It had a lot of packing tape on it and those usually do shelf liner and yeah, yeah and lights and like

[00:06:34] That is exactly how I received it yeah I don’t want people out there to think that planes together.

[00:06:40] That way because some of them actually it’s you’re supposed to put you’re supposed to wrap them.

[00:06:45] In packing tape, just had a lot of packing tape. When I decided to undo it because it was well, it was unsightly, so I went and pulled everything off of it. I found a chunk of one ounce of lead, just duct taped to the nose underneath, went there and rebuilt the whole thing. We’ve talked about this in past episodes. I did the math on it and came up with what I thought the center of gravity should be, which at that point required two additional ounces of lead, so a total of three.

[00:07:15] Ounces of lead, took it out and daniel went to throw it for me and he kind of tossed it like the shadow, the shadow seekers, which is just a gentle light toss- not so much with this airplane- and they just dove straight into the ground like four foot in front of them. I’m familiar with that. We’ve seen that before that many times with that airplane. So we talked about it and it was like you gotta chuck this thing a little harder. So he did chuck it and I pulled back on the elevator.

[00:07:46] With it and it went straight up and we were airborne flying and it was a handful, a huge handful. I got it slowed down and started getting some trim in it, about 50 throttle. It was reasonable but it was still just super touchy. Flip some rates to a much lower rate that I had to 40 expo in and it felt like I was driving a rubber band. So that didn’t work. So I had to flip back up to the higher rates.

[00:08:15] Was able to fly it, get it halfway trimmed and somewhat landed. It just kind of plopped onto the ground and I’m going, wow, okay, that thing kind of sucks maybe. Maybe Tom’s on to something here.

[00:08:32] So we went and flew it again. I adjusted the expos so I could use the lower rates and not have the spongy elevator under half throttle. It was touchy but it was flyable. It was not an enjoyable aircraft to fly at all and I gotta say, man, this thing is- it’s getting better, but it’s, I think it’s still tail heavy. So went ahead and landed it again, if you can call it landing. Once again it was just a plop- bounced it. We went and flew some other stuff and while we were doing that I added an.

[00:09:06] Additional ounce of lead to the nose. Since we were up to four, we’re up to a total of four ounces. Okay, in a small airplane- yeah, it’s not a big airplane- and I thought, okay, let’s see if we’re on the right track, see if this makes it any better. And, by the way, the launches on the first two flights it had multiple launches that bounced and it wing over it and yep, any normal airplane would have just shattered into a gazillion little pieces. I will give that airplane that. It’s tough as nails. Yeah, it is a very tough airplane. The additional half out, or additional ounce of lead in the nose.

[00:09:41] Daniel tossed it and a couple clicks of trim later it’s tamed. Completely different animal. One ounce, that extra one ounce, yeah, made a huge difference. More it would make it better, or do you think it’s like right? I think it’s right where it needs to be right now. I’ve got it set up. You can just be calling across the sky, haul back on the stick. No high speed accelerated stalls. It will drop a wing if you have it crooked and slow and haul back on the stick. But what airplane really won’t? That’s high performance.

[00:10:14] Anyway, yep true, beautiful flying and landing, you come skipping in. I mean I might throw another half ounce in the nose just to see what happens, but I think it’s dead on the money right now. Third flight with it balanced. I did notice at that point. Then I did have a throttle elevator issue. You throttle up fast and they would push the nose down, so it’s a thrust line. So since then I’ve shimmed the motor a little bit and hopefully that’s gone away and it’s it’s dialed nice, he said it flies beautifully. That.

[00:10:45] That is not a term that I would have ever used to describe how that airplane flies. This aircraft was headed to the bottom of your tires. If I remember correct, I wanted to run over it with the rv. Had it been our rv, we probably would have. Yeah, if I had owned the rv and they were my tires, yeah, I absolutely would have ran over it. That’s how much I enjoyed that. I’m kind of glad you didn’t, though, because

[00:11:07] That it actually goes to show that if you take the time to study what’s wrong, to figure out what’s going on with something and work through the problems, you can have a decent flying airplane, as opposed to what I would do, which is what you would have done. So what I’m hearing.

[00:11:30] You say is that I am not patient enough to work with an airplane that doesn’t fly well what’s funny.

[00:11:37] Though is you’re a heck of a lot more patient than I am and one heck of a pilot because you were able.

[00:11:42] To fly this a little bit three ounces of lead short well and then the sticking easy connector too and.

[00:11:48] The sticking easy connector. So thinking back on it now, that makes sense, because not only was it extremely pitch sensitive when I was trying to fly it, but it would also never hold. It would roll back and forth. Yeah, it would just be all over the place, like literally all over the place. But yeah, congratulations, I’m glad you persevered. Yeah, I’m glad I wanted to make like a yes, oh, thank you. Yeah, it is tough, and if anybody out there remembers the old duraplanes, they were tough too, but they flew like crap. So, yeah, no matter what you did, no matter what you did. So I’m glad it didn’t.

[00:12:21] Turn out like the old duraplanes, the dura crash. Yeah, dirt exactly. Yeah, tough as nails. But they really made out of the fluted material gutter. Yeah, vital gutter downspout. Yeah, I’ve seen those. That’s what men? Just an ugly foam wing that you basically wrapped either in shelf paper or if you took the time to paint them or whatever. But yeah, they were terrible. That’s funny, they were terrible. Yeah, the three channel ones are even worse. Oh my gosh. Yeah, the ones without ailerons, I think I actually

[00:12:52] I think I sold one of those way back in. I own two of those stupid things and I’m pretty sure the person I sold it to that was like: what prompted them to get out of the hobby was that? Well, that’s terrible. Yes, exactly that’s why we didn’t sell very many more after that. Yeah, I can understand, if any, that may have been the only one, actually, but anyway, congratulations. What else did you make?

[00:13:15] So terry dunn donated to me the xb70 which I went through and redid gave you yes I said gave.

[00:13:21] You I mean I have no money involved in it makes it sounds like you’re a charity case it’s not far.

[00:13:28] From it. It turned out very nice after a repaint and new decals. It was awfully windy that day. I was a little leery of it and it stayed in the truck the whole time. I was afraid of it get blown away. Yeah, blow it off the table. But we did get a small break in the wind and daniel threw it for me. He said he couldn’t believe how easily it launched. I don’t think he really threw it as much. Just let go of it. Let go of it. Yeah, that flies right out of his hand, right, probably beautiful flight. I don’t even remember putting any trim into it. I think it just went. That’s a good feeling.

[00:14:00] Full throttle in a 15 mile an hour headwind. It had about a five mile an hour ground speed, so going downwind I had to be careful not to get too far down the range. Yeah, because it took a while to come back right. A beautiful flying airplane. Thank you, terry cool.

[00:14:14] Yeah, for just honestly, it’s flat piece of foam that looks like an xb-70. Yeah, and in flight it really pulls it off. It looks great in flight. Yeah, on the decals you did, for look a lot, it’s surprising.

[00:14:26] How those airplanes if they’re if they’re decaled properly and painted properly how they present in.

[00:14:31] The air. Yeah, even though the fuselage is three layers of foam, it was just three flat layers cut. Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, what are you guys getting into? Foamies like flat foamy stuff?

[00:14:44] Anyway, and then I bought. I had a weak moment and bought one of the waco umx planes and yeah, but they were on sale. They were on sale, I was 30 bucks off. I mean like I can’t pass it up. I’ve beautiful airplane to start with, I’m still torn whether I wanted the yellow one or the white one. I own the yellow one now and I still was like man, I kind of like the white one. Bottom both painted half and half one side anyway, and, as to be expected, it flew beautifully, even in the wind.

[00:15:15] So yeah, no problems there. I didn’t try it on three cell, I only tried the four cell. I own more two cells. I’m sorry, two cells versus three cells. I only have the one three cell but being the extra windy, I did.

[00:15:27] Fly it on the three cell yeah I would never do it on two cell why yeah why I mean it’s more.

[00:15:32] Scale we get a nice calm evening yeah hover it yeah that’ll work to be expected it flew really.

[00:15:41] Nice and I love it nice yep why’d you fly so I finally got to fly the electro streak yay that is so.

[00:15:53] Fun, is it? It’s it’s sorry video. Did you take any video? No, I didn’t, because I was flying. There were other people there could have held your phone, for you could have. I really didn’t even think about.

[00:16:05] It bolted to your hat, no, so I’m gonna be honest, I was a little nervous on the launch, having never launched it before, just being the first time. It’s got plenty of power and I mean it’s they’ve got it dialed in to where it’s a non-event really, even without launch assist or with that on, I’m guessing it’s probably turned on automatically. Okay, I don’t know. Yeah, but you just obviously full throttle.

[00:16:31] Throw it in the air. And it’s speaking of launches. He launched my airplane for me. You launched someone else’s airplane. It was under protest, yeah, but you still did it. I did it was the waco umx. Okay, it was.

[00:16:42] Still under protest. Okay, I appreciate it, thank you, no problem, but anyway. So, after a mental note, back at the nugget now: oh, I’ll do it, I just can’t, I can’t guarantee it will be successful. So to each their own risk. But anyway, so no, after a couple flights I kind of got it dialed in to where they needed quite a bit of down, rubber down. Sorry, when you say electro streak you mean the.

[00:17:12] The new e flight electric streak that you may have finished oh that’s right you haven’t finished.

[00:17:17] Yours yet sorry I just had to throw that in there I haven’t even seen the parts now for months I don’t.

[00:17:22] Know he probably doesn’t know where they are either I know exactly where they are they’re.

[00:17:25] Stored with the other unfinished airplanes in the graveyard- I shouldn’t say graveyard, because they’ll eventually get worked on by whatever he sells them too, when I’m retired and have plenty of time anyway. Thanks for taking me off, so got it, maiden. This is actually the first airplane e-flight airplane I’ve ever had that I had to adjust the length of the push rods because I couldn’t get enough down.

[00:17:57] Wait down. Yeah, I couldn’t get enough down elevator on it, ran about, ran out of elevator trim. Yeah, oh, okay, I’m so that’s. That’s significantly out of whack. Then it was: yeah, once I got that, I mean it still flew, obviously, but I had to hold up trim with my thumb. Once I got that landed, got it straightened.

[00:18:18] Out and stuff it’s on it’s like it’s on rails so at neutral then is the elevator in line with the stab.

[00:18:24] Or is there? No, it’s pretty much straight, all right, so I’ll check it then before. Well, I checked it, like when I plugged in I saw that there was. It was off a little bit but I figured they’re probably pretty close and I would be able to trim it out. But there was not that much trim available. So- and like I said, that’s the first one I’ve ever actually had to take apart from the factory and do but no big deal, it flew, there was nothing. I mean there was no negative aspects to it. It went through a battery that way, like I said, after I got it dialed in, did some high speed passes. It’s fast, but

[00:18:59] It wasn’t faster would be nicer, it wasn’t blistering. It was like that’s cool. Did you get the extra prop? No, not yet. Okay, they don’t have it in yet. I probably could have done a different one, but you could probably get an apc one that would work. Just figured, I will stick with what it was before I did any changes to it. Okay, it’s fast. Like I said, don’t get me wrong, it’s not like stupid, stupid fast, but it’s. It’s fun. It moves, slows down, pretty good for landing, slows down, great, really like it’s. It’s amazing the envelope that’s in that airplane. I can’t wait someday. It was a.

[00:19:34] Little concerned because it’s not a foldable prop. There’s no gear, all that kind of stuff. No issues, right? I mean it came in slowed down. Issues with the electro streaks either, right so. But I mean, sometimes it’s just you can’t be careful for that. Of course they fold, don’t they? Yeah, mine’s a folder. Yeah, so daniel’s is a folder. Yeah, the shiny isn’t. But the shiny is like it’s. The front is angled a little bit different and shaped a little bit different toward. It’s a little higher, yeah, but anyway, like I said, landed it a couple times, just nicely.

[00:20:07] Skidded along the grass and stuff. No grass stains, nothing like that on the bottom. So awesome, nice and fast. Went and flew a second battery through it and getting more comfortable with it and the same thing it’s. It’s just fun. Did you fly it on for us? Yeah, yeah, why would you do anything?

[00:20:22] Else oh I don’t know did you have that set up with the y horners still or did you set it up for.

[00:20:27] Flapperons? Nope, why still on the white harness? Yeah, I don’t plan on changing. I mean I don’t see a reason to. Yeah, mine, I don’t even think there’s an extra channel. I’d have to look, maybe if you wanted to add.

[00:20:38] Flapperon maybe it doesn’t need it but it doesn’t I mean yeah I mean my scratch built one really likes.

[00:20:43] A little bit of flap flapper on yeah with landing to help slow it down it’s so sleek it doesn’t want.

[00:20:48] To slow down I don’t know if mine I mean I have mine set up that way but I don’t know if I’ve actually.

[00:20:53] Used. I use apps online. I’ve used it every landing, except for two. Mine’s not as slick as yours either. Either, yeah, and the propeller’s not as big, right? Yeah, mine’s like 13 inches, right, it’s crazy good.

[00:21:06] For you that’s: yeah, I mean, like the ones on ours aren’t nearly as big. Yeah, like I said, I like that problem is at our field. We don’t have power, so I have no way of charging a battery, so I’m stuck with flying only what I brought. We need to. I have plans, don’t worry. Okay, all right. Well, no, I’m just so off topic, but the trailer is in route home. Well, actually not quite yet. My brother and sister-in-law

[00:21:37] Have started their vacation. They have picked the trailer up and it’s gone from georgia to florida. It’s your sister and brother-in-law, right? What did I say? You said brother and sister-in-law, yeah, backwards. Sorry, so, my sister and brother-in-law- they confused me for a second. I’m like: wait a minute, have I been wrong this whole time? Started their vacation? Yeah, so they. They picked the trailer up for me. Yes, yeah, yesterday. They’re in florida. Now they’re coming back this weekend. My plan is to put some batteries in there. That way I can have an inverter and actually charge and probably put

[00:22:11] Some solar panels and stuff on the top too nice that way we can do whatever we want or you can buy.

[00:22:18] A dc charger and just run it off your truck.

[00:22:22] Yeah it’s not as quick that’s the problem I’d like to be able to charge them fast can we power.

[00:22:28] Our spectrum chargers dc I didn’t think so no you can get a little I mean I’ve got I’ve got my high.

[00:22:33] Tech one that I can but- and I’ve got the plug in the back of the truck too, but it’s only 150 watts so it’s not as fast, but anyway. So, off topic, flew that, like I said, had fun. I also made in the ultra stick that I got at the decatur swap meet. Remember that one? The little e-flight one, the small one- yep, it’s small but not slow. No, slow ultra stick is the. Yes, but anyway, flew that on four cell, it was fun. I was a little disappointed in the, and I knew this. I’ll say this, I knew this before I flew it when I went.

[00:23:05] Over and checked everything. The control horns were a little bit loose on the elevator and on the rudder. These are- I wish I knew what kind they were called, but they’re not the kind that usually have the three screws that go in. These are the ones I’ve seen more on foamies to wear zip tie style, yeah right, and whoever goes a long way on those or foam tack, well. So whoever had it before me pretty much did that same thing: put it in, didn’t quite get it seated all the way, and then they

[00:23:36] Glued it on so I couldn’t seat it farther but it was only moving, I don’t know, 16th of an inch to an eighth of an inch at the end. So there was a little bit of play and I knew it. But it was a calculated risk. It flew fine, just not as good as it should have with the changes in a trim bounced around a little bit, yeah, but it’s. It’s a fun airplane. I kind of enjoy that. Got a couple batteries through that and I’m sorry that was on 3s because that’s I didn’t want to fly the other 4s’s in that one.

[00:24:10] So I did end up getting replacement control horns and I have changed those out now so next time I go.

[00:24:19] It’ll be much better. Yeah, so the one I had. I absolutely loved it and I wish I had kept it. But you’ll want to get as much throw on all the surfaces as you possibly can. That will really wake.

[00:24:33] That airplane out so they’ve got it set up with the least amount of throw yeah which that can.

[00:24:39] Always be changed later, but yeah, it’s still fun. But like when you, when you max out the throws on that and start really tossing it at, that thing is just, it’s just so much fun, well, and I can’t imagine.

[00:24:47] That on 4s, like that’s gonna be. Yeah, that’s gonna be cool. Daniel’s got bush tires on his. So yeah, like I think the tires that are on that one I don’t need to go bigger on. Yeah, really, mister, I like mongo tires I do, but those look right for that airplane. I need to find another one of those.

[00:25:05] Maybe you’ll find one at toledo yeah we’ll see yeah daniel got his for like 50 bucks or something.

[00:25:10] We’ll see so what else that was all I had batteries for to fly oh but no edfs that day huh no not even.

[00:25:19] The habu the grass is pretty long what battery am I going to use oh yeah that’s why I’m limited by what.

[00:25:25] I could charge. I had the batteries I had were ones I flew already in those other airplanes, and so I figured I would take with me what I could fly longer, as opposed to a, yeah, two or three minute flight or four minute on the habu. You can get eight, ten minutes out of that. You need a small-ish gasser to fly locally. Actually, I’ve got one that I need to finish going through and tuning and stuff that miles. Sparrowhawk, oh yeah, with a sato gasser, that’s right. Yeah, oh, the one that had the dog food in the wing.

[00:25:59] Yeah the one from Reggie yeah that’d be a good one to fly locally and not have to worry about.

[00:26:05] Recharging, recharging, recharging. Yeah, I thought about bringing that in and starting to kind of go through it, but I haven’t yet because there’s other things that are coming up first. But yeah, well sounds.

[00:26:17] Like you guys had fun. So what’d you fly? Oh, you’re asking me he’s making my desk all weekend. How about that? I was working and you did a fine job of that. I’m glad you guys had a good time. Yeah, I was a little jealous. I mean a little salty, I know. Yeah, I could tell. But it’s okay, I’ll get. I’ll get my chance. I.

[00:26:35] Forgot you worked and then, with the text going out on, now you guys want to go out saturday, I work, that’s how I heard it. Well, that’s exactly how I talked. To see- I that’s, I know you so well- a little tear coming down your eye. Yes, yeah. No, it was a good time and we will do that more often.

[00:26:55] Yes but I still got more new stuff to maiden so yeah I do too me too good speaking of new stuff.

[00:27:06] Yeah you want to talk about new airplane or airplane releases kind of want to go through.

[00:27:11] It fast. I don’t want to be too okay. I’ll start. New from avios available through hobby king. The new twin otter 63 inch flies on a 4s 22 to 3400, comes with floats and a long or short nose, like in the box, which is interesting. Two different scale options. Yeah, two different options. 379.99- Not bad looking airplane, but in my opinion it looks something. Looks weird about it. It does. I can’t put my finger on it, but maybe I think they’re showing it with the short nose, I think.

[00:27:42] Maybe the short nose and the big wheels make it look a little cartoonish yeah but on floats it looks.

[00:27:46] Fantastic, like it doesn’t look as scales. The old e-flight one, no, like read that one, yeah- is like true to shape, yep and a little. I mean that’s bigger than the e-flight one, though right, yeah, 63 inches, it’s a good size airplane. What is that in 1600? I think, yeah, 1600, because I think the e-flight one is.

[00:28:06] 1.3. Yeah, so this is yeah, 1600, 63 inches. Okay, so screw together, assembly, no gluing. Yeah, box. Flight performance looks great, probably in an hour or less, I bet. So nice, anyway, put the battery on and build it new, available through hobby. King dave, what do you have? Excellent, this is the freewing.

[00:28:27] 64 Millimeter f86 saber jet. I believe they’ve had this one out before, but this is a rework. Looks good, it’s. The nice part about this is the price: 155 plug and play. That’s pretty reasonable. That’s very reasonable, I mean for a plug and play. Yeah, it’s a 64 millimeter fan. 4S, 2200 to 2600, although I’ve seen reviews where they’re sticking 3200 packs in it and it seems to be fine. 805 Millimeter, 31.7 Inches, 12 blade fan. So it’s going to sound cool. Yeah.

[00:29:03] Place you got to use apply your own receiver yep and instead of that the toy knot or same deal.

[00:29:09] Now it comes, if I remember correctly, two different ways. You can get it with or without the landing gear. That’s odd. They’re actually recommending, just for the price difference, go ahead and buy the one with the landing gear and just leave it off if you’re not using it. But okay, yep, very nice, it looks good. All typically free wing stuff does flies nice. That’s the drawback is that painted canopy?

[00:29:33] So much easier would it have been really though to put a clear canopy even if you’re staring at the.

[00:29:39] Battery, I don’t care. Yeah, put it clear, because from the side it’s just, it’s just anyway, it’s a little too dark. It needs to be. If they’re going to paint, it needs to be a little bit lighter, not gray, but not stark black either. Yeah, it looks good. It looks good, but for 155 bucks. Yeah, pretty rocking deal, very appealing price point, good size too. What do you got? Okay, so

[00:30:02] The first one that I have is the night timber. Hold on, let’s get this all right. The night timber x evolution, 1.2 Meter. New release from horizon from e-flight. This is a re-release of their old night timber x without the evolution name on it. We’re just throwing more things on the end. This is an evolution of the original. The next one: don’t even get me stirred on timber names. So biggest difference in this one from the old one that I’ve seen online that people are happy about.

[00:30:33] Is there’s a top hatch on it now. Yes, you don’t have to flip it over. Much better right, I’d flip it over to load your battery. 1.2 Meter, like we said, runs on a 3s or 4s, 2200 to 3200 milliamp hour LiPo, bind and fly and the price ouch: 369.99. Like I was really interested in this when I saw they came out with it because night planes are fun, yeah. And then I saw the price and yeah, I thought it’s like I was even thinking about a

[00:31:01] Timber is like come on dave what’s wrong with it yeah another timber right but then I saw the price.

[00:31:05] Is like: nope, I won’t be buying one. I already have a timber with lights on it. I mean, granted, it’s not a night right timber, but it’s still lit, like that’s when they have lights and stuff. It’d be kind of silly to buy another timber that has lights on it. But that’s just me. But I mean, you never know.

[00:31:21] I say things now and then in two months I might change my mind you may see one in person and be like.

[00:31:25] That’s kind of nature or whatever I’m there I get it never know what joan all’s gonna bring.

[00:31:31] That’s true or toledo yeah but joan all you can fly it there that’s that’s the hard part about it.

[00:31:37] That’s true. All right, what else you got? I’ll go next again. Old school model works, balsa kits, so already a fan, all made in the usa. By the way, which I think is amazing, he’s got a new one out called the barracuda, which to me looks like. Well, it’s an e2k racer, which, if you’re not familiar with that, that’s a class of pylon racing eight by eight prop and 4s batteries. So it should move along pretty good. Should move along pretty good, but to me it’s reminiscent of a, of a quickie 500, just a.

[00:32:08] Little smaller. It’s a little box fuselage. It’d be super, super simple to build. In fact, dave, you mentioned this earlier- when we’re looking at it, I think this would be a good candidate for somebody’s first build. Yeah, I think that would be an excellent. Honestly, yeah, jig, jig assembly- everything’s all laser cut. It’s all laser cut. It’s a 36 inch, just under 36 inch wing, so it’s a good size, but it’s not intimidating. It’s not intimidating. Yeah, it’ll go slow or fast. Projected weight: one and three quarter to three pounds. So there’s a nice range there. Three to four s, I mean. Why would you?

[00:32:41] Fly it on three s, but you can. Yeah, and, like I said, cheap. Well, I don’t think I said that yet, but it’s cheap: 129.95, Which is really inexpensive for a balsa kit these days and a complete balls like a kit. Like it has the hardware and all the stuff in there. So I believe they use.

[00:32:58] Pretty quality hardware in their stuff too. Yeah, but no landing gear, no wheels, no right. It’s a very simple airplane. If you want to put landing gear on, it’d be super simple to put a strap type gear on.

[00:33:08] Oh absolutely but I’m saying for that price it doesn’t come with no any of that so but slick.

[00:33:13] Looking yeah slick looking and if you’re into club racing e2k might be might be a fun thing to get.

[00:33:19] Started, yeah, and it’ll be relatively cheap: 129.95, All right. Well, I am up with my second version. This is a little bit more on the toy-like side, but still, it’s still an rc airplane, well, so okay.

[00:33:34] First off, they’re all toys. Sorry, like we have to make sure we remember that hobby grade versus toy grade, but that one’s more toy grade. Yes, like that’s walmart version. Yeah, I mean probably, yeah, yeah.

[00:33:47] Yeah but I seem quite a bit on it and a lot of guys really like me I would say it’s a step.

[00:33:53] Above air it’s definitely above air hog oh I seem to offend the air hog fans in here I’m sorry guys.

[00:33:59] I’m not an air hog fan I’m just saying this is probably a step above air hog your face both of you.

[00:34:04] Are pretty one of those things yeah have you ever flown an air hog no okay like an old helicopter I.

[00:34:11] Think, but never an actual airplane. Yeah, you’re not missing much. You would make the same face had you flown one of those, anyway, okay. Okay, this is from volantex. It looks like it’s also available through e-sheen, e-machine, something like that, but basically it’s been sold under volantex. It is their micro corsair. It is a 15.7 Inch wingspan, flies on a 1s, 360 milliamp battery. So yeah, I mean it’s not a huge airplane, it’s it’s umx size. That is not 15 inches, tommy.

[00:34:44] You started off here like 30.. Well, I had to bring it in a lot. Wow, if you got me off track, I have no idea where I’m going with this. It’s umx size, so it’s a micro. From what I see now it out of the box it’s kind of shiny and toy like looking, but if you sit down and airbrush this thing you can make this look pretty sharp. It looks to me it’s about 30 second scale.

[00:35:14] Just rough guessing dave is all about customizing things and airbrushing and all that yes I don’t.

[00:35:20] Like to leave anything alone, and this is definitely got some decent loans to it. That’s that’s being a modeler for everything I see online with it looks like it flies fairly decent. It does come with a radio, so it’s one of those cheap toy radios, but if you have the right equipment you can.

[00:35:39] Substitute. I was gonna say can’t like whatever. I don’t remember what radio you’re supposed to be replacing with. Can you fly something like that with that radio? With my four-in-one system I can.

[00:35:47] Cool, yeah, that makes a huge difference. Yes, yes, anybody with a multi-protocol module on the radio should be able to use a real radio on this thing. Cool, it comes with volantix’s version of a gyro, the as3x type setup. Yeah, it’s not a bad looking. It’s not grossly out of proportion. Yeah, I mean it looks good. The prop looks a little big, but just kind of sticking to the prop. I do like their. If you built in prop saver and it’s like a snap, it like snaps on, it’s really kind of cool. It’s like magnetized. I

[00:36:19] Think, yeah, so clever. So I’m seeing, and it comes with a spare prop, just in case. Pricing that’s a little questionable depends on if you trust your chinese sources or not. I’ve seen it.

[00:36:32] Anywhere from fifty dollars to 110 dollars fifty dollars is probably pre-tariff price would be my.

[00:36:37] Guess yeah and it’s probably I’m assuming shipping on top of that maybe yeah you’re gonna have to add.

[00:36:42] Shipping and all that to it. Buddy rc has it for 110 here stateside. So there you go, very reasonable. So if you want a nice little toy, consider the corsair, there you go. So the last one we have.

[00:36:58] To talk about. I don’t understand the name, like I’m gonna be honest. I understand this was a bring back of a smaller version they used to be out with, but e-flight released the foresight 3d flat foamy 800 millimeter. Bnf basic obviously has the safe and as3x plus built into it. It’s like a.

[00:37:21] It’s like an erratics with two wings. Yeah, they’ve just slapped another wing on an erratics. That’s pretty much what it is. It looks cool. It’s got a cool shape to it. I do like the blue and black. It looks pretty sharp. It’s a biplane. Biplane, yeah, that’s hence the two wings, but you’re right, biplane. I should get that out of the way. 259.99 Kind of ouch, but okay, I get it because that does include like everything. That’s. That’s the heart. You’re paying for the technology. I we’re comparing things.

[00:37:52] That are plug and play versus bind and fly. So that adds a hundred and some odd dollars just in your receiver and stuff. So I get that. But it runs off of 850 to a thousand milliamp hour 3s LiPos. So it’s the same battery that the erratics use also. So go check that out if you want a flat foamy. So why does the name bother you? What makes no foresight, what that makes no sense, I don’t understand. I mean, I don’t know. I’m just curious why it doesn’t bother me. It’s just a name, but well.

[00:38:27] Yeah, I just, I guess it bugs me because I don’t know. Maybe if I understood behind the like the reason behind it, I’d be like, okay, it makes sense, but that just sounds so stupid. The, the number four, yes, site dash, site, s-I-t-e. Like what? What’s four? I guess it’s not the greatest name on the face of the earth for this airplane, but four wing halves- and that’s the only thing I can figure- are those called?

[00:38:51] Sites like I don’t either. So I think they did two versions previously. I think there was a foresight and I think they did something called a micro foresight. Maybe I might be wrong. I remember the next version, but I seem to remember there were. There were two versions and they had- I don’t know if this one has it, but like the ones that I remember had like flat plates that were on the trailing, the drag brakes, drag brakes. Yeah, yeah, does this one have that? Doesn’t look like it. Oh, okay, I’m not looking.

[00:39:16] Through all of the I if stuff I saw on it, I did not see anything. I wouldn’t think so, because this is bigger and it’s going to fly fast and it’s it’s going to be heavier based on the type of foam and stuff they use. It’s right, it’s not like what’s the indoor flying those ultralight indoor? There’s a thing I told you that breaks on it. It’s- yeah, it’s not something that if you look at and sneeze it’s gonna break into two pieces. It’s like the erratics: it’s made to be a little bit stronger, whereas, like the indoor, slow flight stuff isn’t. No, it’s not, but I mean, I don’t get the name.

[00:39:47] And it’s a biplane and I don’t get the two wings, but that’s okay. Those biplanes are cool. Biplanes are cool. Well, I mean, it’s got a much narrower wingspan and a much longer body. Gives you a higher roll rate. Yeah, I bet this fly is really good. But anyway, erratics did. I like that one too. Yeah,

[00:40:10] So that’s all for new airplanes. One other thing I want to say really quick: the nx and ix radios have new firmware available came out with a couple days ago, thank you. Nx goes up to 4.01A and then the ix series is version 2.01A.13. There are a few small changes that they made, nothing huge, nothing earth-shattering. If you want to figure it out, did they correct the pictures?

[00:40:35] Yeah, no, that’s completely on. That has nothing to do with it. That has to do with the pictures that they have on the actual receiver. That’s part I we took out. So when I did the bind and fly thing with the electro streak. They have the new model files that are stored on the receiver that you download to your, to your transmitter. Cool, that’s fine, whatever. So I do it and the picture, like I wish I hadn’t turned that off yet. I remind me I got to show you what the picture is. It looks like a glider.

[00:41:09] Like a motor glider, yeah, with really weird wings, like a huge propeller on it and it’s just a line drawing like. It’s like a vector drawing. Looks like something. Honestly, that piper just oh, an airplane. Let me just drop an airplane really quick a minute later. Here you go, dad. Okay, so that’s all the technology.

[00:41:24] And all the programming they put into these things and then that’s the vector line drawing it’s funny I mean.

[00:41:29] Like it’s. You can take your own picture, so that’s fine. But right, I just I? I don’t understand that. It is what it is. It’s funny, though it’s cool if that’s the worst thing I have to complain about. Well, right, we’re in good shape. Yeah, I’d say so. So what else?

[00:41:50] It’s spring well it’s today’s first day of spring what that means.

[00:41:54] Cold weather: cold, cold and windy. A little snow, windy, craft weather. Never know what that means exactly. But now it’s time to start thinking about flying. If you’re here in the midwest and you’ve been serious flying, not a here and there, right? Yeah, the season is upon us. Yeah, locked away all winter, but it’s time to bring the airplanes out of hibernation, wake them up from their slumber, long winter’s slumber. It’s time to inspect your airplanes to get them ready for spring. Okay,

[00:42:25] And that’s basically in tommy’s world. That’s a lot like putting them away, so you go over everything when you put them away. Yeah, hopefully you’ve repaired anything that needs that needed to be repaired over the winter. Now it’s time to make sure your batteries- like if you use like a nickel metal hydride, for example, for your radio battery- probably ought to think about putting a charge in it or at least cycling it. Put a cycle on it and check the capacity. Make sure you’ve got the required milliamp hours, kind of like what I had to do for the senior: the trash can Telemaster.

[00:43:03] Last year, remember, I had to replace both batteries because that sometimes happens with nickel metal. So check the cycle and make sure you got the milliamps in there that you need and they’re not very expensive, so it’s okay. I almost always just chuck them every year. I mean I know it’s a waste, but honestly to the point that they’re, they’re like 10 or 15 bucks a piece. I think you can get a two pack of like the six bolt ones two thousands off amazon, a two pack for like I think it’s 12 bucks.

[00:43:27] Yeah I’ve been buying mine for 12 bucks a pop but I need to try to find that two pack yeah.

[00:43:33] Tennergy, that’s the anyway. But yeah, go over all the. The nuts and bolts shrink down that covering that may have loosened up over the over the winter. I’m looking at you and b339, it’s in.

[00:43:44] Here for a reason I can talk about that here in a little bit yeah but yeah my stuff lives.

[00:43:49] Outside most of the winter. Yep, so I have to go through and make sure that no little furry critters decide to eat something. Yeah, for some reason or another, they like the wheels on the e-flight t28, weird I. Twice now they’ve eaten the wheels and I don’t have. I don’t have a problem.

[00:44:07] I don’t have a mouse problem. Really, I think I’ve got like one or two mice. I mean, I don’t ever see any trace them, except for they eat the tires on the. Yeah, on the trojan. Yeah, that’s funny, it happens yeah.

[00:44:19] So what else? Yeah, just go over airplanes you plan on flying this year. Make go. It’s a good time to check over the nuts and bolts and make sure all your set screws are tight and things like that. Wheel collars are another one that weird they seem to loosen up over the

[00:44:33] Winter time I don’t understand why that is but check them motor mounts motor mounts props prop nuts.

[00:44:39] Nuts, if you’re going to do any adjusting on an electric, make sure you take that prop off. Don’t have an accident, right, right. If you’ve acquired new toys or new equipment over the winter that you’ve been dying to try, make sure that it’s programmed correctly and don’t try to program.

[00:44:57] It at the field do it at home the night before yeah or the month before yeah don’t turn a day.

[00:45:02] At the field that should be relaxing and fun into a stressful to work day yeah so if you need.

[00:45:08] To tweak something that’s one thing but have it all your rates and everything ready to go yeah.

[00:45:12] Throws done, rates done, everything programmed right, yeah, and I mean, you can miss something, sure, and you’ll figure that out when you get to the field. But you’re right, it’s best to do all your planning.

[00:45:22] Beforehand so you’re not wasting time. And be extra thorough with your pre-flights, these first few spring flights, because you never know what happened that you missed. Yeah, yeah, true, if you’ve got a, you.

[00:45:34] A gasser that’s been sitting all winter. Sometimes the diaphragms and the carburetors like to dry up. Check the lines. I would check all your fuel lines and maybe I got a lot of fuel lines I need to change this year. That would be a bad idea to put some fuel in the airplane. Get that diaphragm soaking.

[00:45:49] Re-witted oil and fuel so that it’s not dry on your first start makes life a little bit easier.

[00:45:55] Yeah, you can do all that, but, yeah, check your lines, check your clunk lines especially. They tend to harden up, especially with the ethanol that’s in the fuel these days, and if a clunk won’t reach the top of the tank when you’re inverted, that’s yeah, that’s a, that’s a five second waiting to yep, that is a accident waiting, or at least a dead stick waiting to happen. Yeah, so just general maintenance, get your stuff ready and I- I don’t know about you guys, but like just tinkering with my airplanes really, really gets me juiced up to start flying. So that’s funny.

[00:46:29] I’m not that way but no I’d rather not have to work on any of them I’d rather just build.

[00:46:36] Dave likes to build. I like to build as well, but I also like to tinker. Yeah, just sit down in my shop and tinker whatever I get it. But this is a good opportunity to at least play with your.

[00:46:49] Airplanes, even if you can’t fly them yet. Get them ready, right? Anything else on that? That’s pretty much all I wanted to say about that. So my tinkering and the reason the mb is downstairs right now. I don’t know if I’ve talked about this on here before or not, but I have always had an issue with the nose gear retract not coming down all the time, like I’ve never had it to where it didn’t come down when I needed it to, but there was multiple times that you had to flip the gear switch a.

[00:47:20] Couple times in order to get it to actually come down. First I thought it was hanging up on the, the cutout wasn’t right or something. It was hanging up on that on the airframe. Then I thought maybe the, the base plate and the airplane was caca, not perfectly true, so yeah. So I tried to loosen that up a little bit and kind of see if that made a difference. Never made a difference, and I finally got to the point where I didn’t want to fly it again until I could trust it every time. Yep, so did some more digging into it, and then I noticed I don’t even you might have to.

[00:47:57] Help me with my terminology on this. So on the end of the motor there’s a little collet that the, the, the screw part, runs through. The warm gear runs through and I noticed that there was a lot of slop and play in whatever that collet part is. So you could actually take. When I had taken the part and was looking at it, you could actually take the, the is that. Is that the actual worm gear, the screw part, is that what you call it jack screw the. You could take that and you could move it in and out a good eighth of an inch. Oh. So it had that much play. That’s an excessive amount of split, right? So I noticed when

[00:48:34] I pulled it out that the collet would come out and get stuck in the housing so it wasn’t able to spin.

[00:48:43] What you could do. Like before, when I still had it in the in the airframe, I couldn’t see it moving as much as it did when I got the motor actually taken out and off of the, off of the retract. But I did figure out that if you took a tiny flathead screwdriver and just kind of pried it back in a little bit I never had problems running it up or down like the first time. It worked fine, didn’t have to worry about. So that’s kind of what made me think there might be something in that. Once I actually got it taken out and, like I said, had the motor separate, I was surprised how much play there was in.

[00:49:17] It. So I finally got a new motor, got all that put back together and stuff, and it is now working every time. So I’m happy about that. It’s going to be exciting to try that to make sure I don’t have any issues not having a gear- yeah, and I’m really excited to try it with the proportional brakes- yeah. So I can’t wait to get out and fly that. Yep cool, but it’s ready to go. Now. It’s not back in storage yet, back out in the garage yet, because I do want to run the covering iron over it to shrink.

[00:49:44] It down a little bit but she’s ready nice and I am too yeah nice very much me too and mine is too yes.

[00:49:54] My airplane is ready also can’t wait. I just need to wait till you’re done. Yeah, and also I bought another airplane, and speaking of not liking to tinkering and not wanting to go through too much work on them, so I ended up buying the 10 cc cub from hanger 9, the plug and play version, because so this was a pleasant surprise. I’m gonna be honest. So I ordered the plug and play version, thinking that it was just going to come as an ARF and then all the parts separate, kind of like. I bought the mb339, right? You?

[00:50:29] Know it was still an ARF you had to put together. They didn’t call it a plug and play, which I mean. This truly was plug and play, so I was expecting to do a little bit more work. When I got it, I got brought it inside, took it out of the box and all that kind of stuff, and from the time I started to assemble it to the time it was completely bound and ready to go was about six hours. Now I say it was about six hours from start to finish, of actual starting on it till when I was finished, but that included. I’m trying to think what all I

[00:51:02] Did? I went out to eat. I, I think I went shopping with piper for or with crystal for a little bit, I think we went and got fuel in one of the cars so we were like we were gone for quite a while. Honestly, work on that in that time frame was probably two-ish. Hours went together without any glue, which I like because you can take it apart and store it if you need to- not that I want to, but if you need to. All the servos were installed, all the control horns and linkages and all that were.

[00:51:37] Done, obviously. The hinges were done, the motor was installed, the cowl was on and lined up very nicely. I mean, like the cowl is on, very it’s it’s stout. It was about as simple of a build as I’ve ever had- I don’t even want to call it a build of an assembly as I’ve ever had- and this is a balsa airplane. This is a balsa airplane. It’s decent size, it’s not huge, it’s 82 and a half inch wingspan. So I’m very happy with how it went together and that also included. It didn’t come with a receiver.

[00:52:08] I had one already out of another airplane, so that included me going online, wiping the receiver completely, putting it in this one, going through the as3x plus programming from initial, from start and all that kind of stuff it was. It was very easy to do, nice, I was very happy with that.

[00:52:27] Surprised it’s a good looking airplane my only gripe with it are the wheels yeah it’s it’s those will.

[00:52:33] Change. Yeah, yeah, but it’s just not right. Yeah, they’ve got everything else pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I’m I’m impressed with it. Like I haven’t put any decals on yet. I don’t know exactly what I want to do with that, although really the only decals that go on is the cub on the tail and the end number. That’s about all that it needs, and I appreciate them not putting that end number on there. Yeah, it actually came with. All the same, it came with two end numbers too. Oh nice, I was surprised. That’s awesome. So not that I know the difference between what they’re supposed to be, but I haven’t.

[00:53:03] Looked them up or anything. But, yeah, are the floats available too? So, yes, I bought the floats. So the reason for this airplane and what actually got me to do this now, as opposed to waiting joan, all’s coming up. Yeah, and last year I had the, the 450 size cub that I picked up at the toledo swap meet, and it’s. It flies great, but it’s a little underpowered and it needs a little bit of covering work, like honestly.

[00:53:34] It. Probably. If you wanted to go through and redo everything, that plane would be a good candidate for it. It’ll fly now, fly fine, but it’s to the point where it needs some tlc. That I don’t want to do. Yeah, you don’t like to tinker. It for me is underpowered at scale, but it’s a little underpowered, so I would like to get a new motor for it, new speed controller. Servos are slow, they’re older. It works fine, but they’re a little bit slower than I like. So I would have to redo all that and I just

[00:54:07] For that airplane. I didn’t want to put the time and effort into it, so I got this one. I bought the floats for it, which are foam. I don’t know why. I didn’t realize. I should have thought about that. Those would have been built up. Yeah, e-flight foam floats. Yeah, are they yellow? No, they’re gray aluminum. So I mean it, it will look the part. Yeah, that’s one thing that, like I said, this bigger one has that, I’m sorry, doesn’t have that. The little 450 size one did they? They actually were built up balsa.

[00:54:45] Floats and it’s probably no big deal. Honestly, foam is probably better. You don’t have to worry about it leaking the sink, right, you don’t have to worry about any of that kind of stuff. Didn’t realize when I- so I bought the- mike said the pmp version- bought the floats. Didn’t realize that you had to buy the hardware- all the braces and brackets and all that stuff separately. So that’ll be here tomorrow. So yeah, that’s about it. Nice thing about these floats, though, is it does have the

[00:55:16] Servo built into the float so you don’t have to worry about any linkages or anything like that. That’s cool. This other one: you had to run the cable from the tail, so I like that, but we’ll see it’ll be a good flyer at joan. All it’s supposed to be pretty powerful, 4s or 6s, of course. I set mine up for success, of course, why not it came. It came with two different wood propellers, which I like nice, depending on what size battery you are going to run with it- cool. So I think that’s a 14: 8.

[00:55:48] Maybe, and I think if you’re running for us, it’s like a 15, 7 or something. I don’t remember the exact numbers, but yeah, so I’m excited about that. That’ll be fun. Yeah, that’ll be a. That’ll be an excellent, joan, I know, yeah, I know cool. Well, congrats, so looking forward to that. Yeah, looks very nice, thank you, and it’s smaller than yours. Both of you have cubs that are bigger than mine, so you always say, oh, yes, no, see, bigger than my goldberg cub, though you still have your other.

[00:56:19] You still have the l4. I got the big l4. Yeah, it’s electric, so it’s perfect. I like it, I’m happy. Yeah, no good, I’m glad. But yes, it will get new, bigger wheels, yeah, eventually. Yeah, I think I have.

[00:56:33] A set of the duper ones. It’s not even so much the wheels, it’s the hubcaps, yeah, but anyway. Yeah, but cool, cool, I’m happy, yeah, neat. So what else? I wish I had more to talk about, but that’s really all I got to leto’s coming up. Well, I know, I gotta figure out what I’m taking. You haven’t done anything yet. No, I’ve done stuff. So what are you taking? Double vision, as much as I love that airplane really well,

[00:57:00] I mean I have a coupon I have to take advantage of I mean you’re probably smart doing that but that.

[00:57:05] Surprises me. Yeah, so I cleaned it up the other night. Man, every time I touch that airplane it’s like: do I really want to get rid of this? I mean the answer is no, but anyway, box of random stuff, which I’m sure you guys are probably putting random boxes stuff together. Yeah, I’ve got one of those and I’m thinking about- I mean, you’re talking about the cub, I was thinking about selling mine, honestly.

[00:57:29] Oh really thinking about it yeah oh I like the motor on it except it’s nitro yeah but still.

[00:57:33] That’s the thing I mean. I like it because it’s nitro, but, for example, if I had floats on it would be a great airplane for joe null, except it’s nitro powered and I don’t know if you saw that this year’s on their website specifically says they cannot support nitro of any kind this year. Really, yeah.

[00:57:53] That’s weird, I did not know that. Yep, no, it’s just, it’s at the bottom of one of the pages I was. I was reading, so that’s kind of a bummer. So, yeah, I mean like if I can’t take it there on floats, then we’re gonna fly floats. Yeah, when I can’t obviously fly my stick off of floats because it also nitro powered so well, I don’t have a float plane for joe null this year. Yeah, you do. Well, I mean, I guess, yeah, I do have the floats for the timber, so I’ll probably fly that then. Oh, I got.

[00:58:23] The floats for the kingfisher too. So yeah, I do have those, but I mean, as far as something that makes noise I wouldn’t mind having a 10 cc cub to with a 10 cc, only with actual cc’s in it. Right, exactly. But like, yeah, I mean that between those two airplanes and just the box of randomness, that’s really all I got to take. Wow, maybe the airplane I bought there two years ago, that blue thing that I tried to sell up there at the lacrosse. I can’t believe you weren’t able to move.

[00:58:57] That you had that stupid jeep. It was pretty cheap, I thought, but anyway, yeah it would. It would probably have gotten better had it been that it looked better, because the covering is kind of it’s not.

[00:59:10] The prettiest thing I’ll give you that I mean it flies good yeah it’s really good so that’s another.

[00:59:15] Nitro one. I mean, that’s exactly, yeah. And so you’re getting out of nitro now because you’re no, no, no, don’t say that what I’m not getting out of nitro, you’re not like completely, but you’re getting away from it more because you’re getting more into diesel. Oh well, I have one, yeah, diesel powered airplane that.

[00:59:34] You’re gonna fly a lot so that’s my point yeah I hope I fly the snot out of it this year yeah gotta.

[00:59:39] Get that waiver done first that’s not hard cool dave what are you taking I haven’t even started I’ve had.

[00:59:47] So many we have less than two weeks till we leave two weeks from today we will be there I haven’t.

[00:59:53] Even started. I work home dog, I had to put up an electric fence. So truck, truck’s been killing me. Oh, me too. But I want to talk about that truck now. Oh, it popped a check engine light again. Yeah, what is this time it came back as a bad coil.

[01:00:15] That’s easy I thought it was unplugged is that the one yeah I fixed it well that was number one.

[01:00:20] Cylinder. Now this is number two. Lovely ford’s, yeah well, I was on one in 75 for a coil and there’s six of them. I was like man cha-ching. And then new plugs. While you’re at it, you might as well, may as well. I got on the internet, went to amazon ford motorcraft factory parts- all six coils, six brand new iridium plugs, all motorcraft- 150 bucks. What it’s like. Well, that’s stupid, that’s so. I went in and

[01:00:51] Popped those on there last weekend, engine light gone, runs like a champ good deal. So, apparently, 120 000 miles is when your coils die. Well, there you go. For all you ford eco boost guys, there you go. So, anyway, that was, that was fun, but I just haven’t had time to go through any of my stuff. What are you thinking about, though? I kind of thought about my big t28- yes, sorry, thought about that- the one you repainted the sound system in it. Yeah, okay, and why are you saying: yes, tommy, I’m just, I’m not a.

[01:01:26] Fan of that airplane. I don’t know if the landing gear functioned properly every time. I think that’s what it is and I don’t want to spend the 75 bucks, or whatever it is, to buy the new retracks.

[01:01:36] Yeah, I mean, it’s a beautiful airplane like the, the, the paint job and the marking, the flight characteristics. It flies so great. Yeah, I think it’s the uncertainty whether you’re gonna. I don’t.

[01:01:46] Like to roll it upside down to make sure the gear goes up right yeah I’m not a big fan of the trojans.

[01:01:51] For some reason I’ve never liked the shape of them yeah it flies beautifully I love flying it yeah but.

[01:01:56] Thinking about that. I’m thinking about my wright brothers plane that I just haven’t got around a flying. It’s just taking up space. It takes up a lot of space down. It doesn’t break down well and I’ve built it so that it broke down a little bit. If you build it according to the way it’s supposed to be built, it don’t break down at all and it’s we well in the expedition. That’s the only airplane you’re taking because it fits the whole truck. So I’m thinking about that. Odds and ends. I really don’t have a whole lot to throw in a box, but I really haven’t given much thought of.

[01:02:27] I need to clean stuff out but we’ve got so much stuff going it’s just no don’t use that as.

[01:02:33] An excuse. I know, if I have to, I can get a fourth table. Oh okay, you’re talking about the tables, which I was gonna say. The transportation there is really not a big deal. Yeah, it’s the tables. When we get there, daniel’s got a trailer and then we’re taking my car too and then daniel’s taking his big daniel’s.

[01:02:46] Taking his big cessna 150 he wants to get rid of. Oh, really, yeah. So oh, that good for him. Yeah, but we may need another table. So it’s like I’m back and forth. I don’t, I don’t plan on buying much, so I can live with what I’ve got. Yeah, I don’t want, I don’t want to buy anything, but you, yeah, I’m not saying that like.

[01:03:08] I don’t have plans on buying stuff but if something is there that I want yes I’ll be I would like to.

[01:03:13] Track down one of the fly zone beavers on floats, like daniel got last year. Yes, that’s, I would like to have one of those. That’s a great journal plan. Yeah, I would like to repaint it because I’m not real crazy about the maroon, but hey, yeah, it flies good. It flies good, yeah. So that’s one thing I’m kind of keeping my out for is one of those on the cheap, so I’m not really looking to buy a whole lot, yeah.

[01:03:36] I think we’re going to need a fourth table because that double vision takes up a lot of room and then all of that it’s going to take up quite a bit of room and if daniel’s bringing that big, 150.

[01:03:49] That’ll take up some room. So anyway, we’ll talk about later. Yeah, but I just really haven’t gone through my stuff to see what I really want to get of, and if I take that trojan it’s huge, yeah, yeah.

[01:03:59] That’s not a small airplane even for a foamy that’s not a small airplane that’s a big airplane.

[01:04:05] Yeah I mean we can absolutely see if I get another table hope it’s not too late for him to.

[01:04:10] Move around. Like I said, don’t worry about me, I’ll figure out what’s going on and I’ll adjust. Well, we can always see you when we get there too, like not everything has to go out right away either you.

[01:04:22] Know what I mean true I’m saying wings don’t have to go on at first they can we can make.

[01:04:26] It yeah that’s exactly right down yeah we can make three tables work I bet that will talk especially if.

[01:04:32] I don’t take my cup and I’ve thought about bringing the cub I just finished reselling it because I’ve.

[01:04:39] Already got it I’ve got a brand new one in the kit I know but I want the launch I want the long span.

[01:04:44] The wing. Yeah, I like that cup. Yeah, I’ve thought about it. I probably won’t talk about the navy one, the navy one, the any one. Yeah, yeah, I haven’t even started the engine. I don’t even know if the engine runs. Good looking airplane. Well, buy it what I got, other stuff I have to buy.

[01:05:04] Anyway that’s where we’re at okay about you oh wait never mind never mind all sitting over there.

[01:05:09] Not all, but most, and there’s more, yeah. So I’ve got a list. I’ve got a bunch. Oh my gosh. So I’m going to be taking the, the that edge 540 mini that you built I don’t remember when or what long time ago. It’s a flighton or fliton. Yeah, flition, fly, f-l-I-t-o-n. Weird one fly is awesome. The, the schleicher guy glider that I bought there a couple years ago or last year. A couple years ago had a whole bunch of plans for it, but what reality sets in, and that’s just not my favorite.

[01:05:44] So it’s not worth putting time or effort into getting rid of the sea wind the micro draco is going.

[01:05:52] Bye-bye ec 1500 that makes me sad a little bit which one the ec 1500 why could you let me fly that.

[01:05:59] One a couple times and I really like that one. It flies great, it’s got a ton of power, like it’s a great flying airplane, awesome flying airplane, but it’s just not for me, gotcha. I mean it’s cool, you can drop stuff out of it, but it’s just not for me. And it does have skis too, which is kind of cool, but it’s just not for me. It doesn’t work in fluffy snow. Yeah well, he got it. Reggie got it kind of is going. I had to kind of throw it a little bit. Yeah, that’s Reggie the tower. Hobbies cherokee, it’s gonna be going away. The 450 size club, the e-flight cub on floats that I got last year, was it last year? Yeah, it was.

[01:06:37] Last year- I think it was last year- we’ll be going back up. The stinger, 90 millimeter, is going bye-bye. E-flight f-16- 80 millimeter going bye-bye. That makes me sad a little bit too. It’s only because I’m an f-16 guy. Yeah, I like it. I’m not. Otherwise I would be keeping it, but it was an f-18 it wouldn’t be going right. Yeah, and I get that ones that are in the garage are not going. I get that. But I’m gonna be honest, like the, the gear setup that they have on that it’s impressive. Like it, it’s very scale and

[01:07:09] Looks very cool. Yeah, I’m impressed with the landing gear setup on it, but anyway, so also the fun one. Remember that old one from you I think I’m gonna be taking up just to make room. That’s got a small sato something or another on it. That’s nitro 65 on it. If I think it was like 50 something, is it? It could be a 56, but I thought it was a 65 either way, so you don’t nitro motor on it. The problem with that one, though, is that was the cody plane that I cut the vinyl, was it?

[01:07:44] Vinyl, I remember what it was. But so it’s got cody’s name on it big on the wing, so that’s not going to go over. Well, you can only sell that to cody, right, right, I hope there’s a cody that shows up that wants it. And then I’m keep going back and forth and I have not made up my mind on the cree.

[01:08:03] That surprises, whatever, because it’s so different. That’s the only thing that makes me want to keep it. Yeah, it flies good, like I really does. I was impressed with I thought it was gonna be a lot worse than it was. Put it that way, with the small wing and stuff, I feel like it flies really nice. I just don’t it’s. It’s odd, it’s a once a year flight kind of thing. Yeah, because the way the engines are hung.

[01:08:26] On the nacelle that it actually looks like it’s flying upside down so hard which makes no.

[01:08:31] Sense, honestly. And then it’s got a fishbowl on top of it, the canopy. You should be able to tell that it’s not upside down. But then you see those and it’s like messes with your mind. It’s like, oh, my, inverted a little bit, yeah. So that’s like I, yeah, that’s my list- and then a small box of

[01:08:48] Odds and ends that I just don’t need plenty, plenty of stuff. The stuff. It’s going to be RC Plane Lab guys. We’ll be at toledo. It’s going to be a good. So if you guys are going to toledo, make sure to stop by and say hi, because I like it- and I know dave likes it- when you guys come up to us and say hello and introduce yourselves and I do to us. We can even record a little sound bite for you. Yeah, we’ll have you right on the show. Don’t don’t say that, yeah, because I gotta remember to take that thing. We’ll try to remember to take our sound recorder thing much better. So.

[01:09:17] That we can potentially. I can promise to try. I can’t promise to do. Yeah, let’s not leave it in the truck like we did last year, right? Yeah, tommy wasn’t here last year, no, but we know you’re coming.

[01:09:29] This year. Yeah, we did take it somewhere, though, where we headed out only briefly. Joan, all you did, joan, all that’s right, yeah, yeah, anyway, but that’s fun. Looking forward to toledo- me too. Hopefully we’ll see folks there that we have seen previously and new faces, new friends, yeah, anything else that’s.

[01:09:50] All I got. I just gotta put a little teaser out there. Oh, oh. I know what he’s gonna talk. I’ve got a box coming from a main. I’m really excited for him, so I’m excited for him also. So we’ll just say there’s a big mystery box coming for me. He smiles and look at him. Look at what it is. He’s beaming. Yeah, I would say he’s beaming, so we’ll see. We’ll see. It’s gonna be a frustrating couple.

[01:10:13] Weeks yeah but I mean frustrating sure but also exciting something brand new and like it like.

[01:10:20] Completely brand new. It’s like, yeah, it’s like a new universe. It’s not like I’ve never done this before. This is all new, yeah, so we’ll just leave it at that. Oh god, I can’t wait. Cool, anything else.

[01:10:33] Then nope, no, no, I’m good, all right. Well, everybody, thanks for listening. Hopefully we’ll see you in toledo. Yep, until next time. I’m Ron, I’m Tom and I’m dave. Good night, good night. We hope you enjoyed.

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