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In this episode, Ron and Tom give an update on the overcharged battery story from a few weeks ago, talk about running 2 of the YS120 engines for the Tri-Motor Project, and discuss how many channels you really need on your transmitter.
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[0:00] oh that stinks i don't smell anything i think you brought it with you oh sorry hello everyone and welcome to rc plane lab i'm ron i'm tom today we're going to be talking about channels on your transmitter how many do you really need how many do you really need and the number might surprise you it might but before we get to that we have a few things once again it seems like every time we do this we have some housekeeping to get to it's okay first off we chose a winner
[0:30] for our transmitter giveaway yep so that is finished we are waiting to hear back from him congratulations congratulations hopefully he's listening and or watching yeah that was kind of fun to do though that was it was fun I hadn't done it before. No. We probably will do it again. Oh, yeah, absolutely. With something else. Something else, yeah. But I don't know why yet. But that was a good little radio. I mean, it still is a good little radio. It's just not ours anymore.
[0:54] It worked great, yeah. So hopefully the winner will get a lot of use out of it, and hopefully it will perform as well for him as it did for us. There you go. New survey out. Don't forget. We would greatly appreciate it if you would take it. We've had a lot of people take it so far, and we thank you for that. Yeah, as Tom likes to say, help us help you. That's right. It's very handy. It is handy. Having something to kind of go off of and kind of shape the future of the show, I guess,
[1:22] if you want to say. Well, I mean, really, really, that's exactly what it does because most of the show ideas or the shows that we've done have come from those surveys. So if you've got an idea or a topic you want to hear us talk about, put it on that survey and send it to us. Yeah, or if you have questions or anything like that, reach out. Also, we had a computer die this week, so we're back to our back to the old paper notes
[1:46] back to notes so if you see us look down a lot if you're watching on youtube that's going to be why just to make sure we just to make sure we don't miss anything really good view right there don't show off our notes just leave it alone i was blocking out here oh that nice wow I was blocking out here. Oh, that's nice. Wow.
[2:13] And don't forget, so this is our last show before we kind of go on mini vacation, I guess, if you want to say. Spring break. Spring break, fall break, whatever. Nothing new is going to be coming out in May. That's just to give us some time to get caught up on stuff, to maybe build some airplanes, to maybe fly some airplanes. Fly, yeah. It's been a while since we've some time to get caught up on stuff, to maybe build some airplanes, to maybe fly some airplanes. Fly, yeah.
[2:28] It's been a while since we've had time to do it. Shoot some videos of us flying and maybe videos from the airplanes flying. I mean, we don't fly. The airplanes fly. But what I'm saying. We'll see how things go. But, yeah, that's the plan. So hopefully we have some time to do that. So, as a reminder, no episode next week. It's going to be weird. Like I actually don't know if I'm going to like this or not. Like I'm so used to doing weekly stuff that.
[2:55] I mean, pretty much solid every week for a year. Yeah, a year and a couple months. Over a year, actually. So yeah, a little break. I think we've earned it. But it is going to be weird. It is going to I mean by getting together at least once a week to do this But I'm beginning together and other for doing other yes flying videos and maybe some how to's and stuff I've gotten so used to this sitting down doing this weekly. So that's okay
[3:19] So anyway, no episode next week May 14th.'re going to run a best of episode for the podcast. So there will be no YouTube episode released. Let's see, May 21st is going to be our off week because, we're going to every other week. May 28th will be another best of episode. June 4th is going to be an off week. And june 11th is going to be our next new episode so like i said mark your calendars yeah set a reminder on your phone but yeah june 11th
[3:54] will be our next episode with new material in it and then it'll be bi-weekly until late fall early winter whenever the flying season is over whenever there's less to do outside here yeah because that's really what kind of keeps us busy now too yeah and unfortunately i wish i wish i could say that the reason we're taking a break is just so we could focus on flying and stuff but let's be real we have grass cutting to do and yard work and
[4:20] i have to work on my car and it's lots of stuff that unfortunately is not related to the podcast. But we're still going to try to put some stuff out. Like Ron said, he's going to do a couple of best of episodes, and basically that'll be some of like a re-airing of a couple of our more popular episodes. Yeah, do we have best ofs? I mean, we have okay ofs. We have good enoughs. We're going to pick the goodest enough nefas deval that's what we
[4:46] how is it that you say that's what we that's what we strive for good drive for okay okay let's see what else while we're off you can still contact us though don't forget absolutely we'll still be checking emails and looking over the website and the forums and all that kind of stuff. Email me, Ron at… Email me… Wrong email address. Email me, Ron, at rcplanelab.com or Tom at rcplanelab.com for this guy over here. Text us, area code 818-351-9846.
[5:19] Text, leave us voicemail, picture messages, whatever. What else we got? Let's see. If you want to contact us via Facebook, I keep tabs on our Facebook page. So if you got something you want to ask us or show us, Facebook is a good platform to do that. And I keep tabs on that. And so that's another way you can get all of us. We're not going to leave everyone high and dry. We're still going to stay connected. We're just not going to produce anything new until until june 11th well
[5:50] yeah let's not beat a dead horse i think we we've got that across now but i mean basically i'm just saying you can still contact us we're still going to be active just yeah yeah don't be shy yeah like we're gonna be for a while. Yeah. Lastly, we've had quite a few people that have bought shirts and onesies and sweatshirts and all that kind of stuff off our website. First off, thank you. Secondly, we want to see pictures of you.
[6:17] We won't post them anywhere, so don't think you're going to be going up on our website or anything like that. It'll just be for us. But send us pictures of you wearing our stuff if you're on facebook and you want people to see your swag post it post it on our page i would love to see it yeah that's fine too but if you're shy and if you're trying and you're everywhere which i get that i wouldn't just email it to us we won't share it with anyone
[6:37] yeah we just want to see it i think that's kind of cool i think it's very cool actually i mean i'm wearing my swag yeah me too he's wearing his swag so get some swag if you if you don't mind sharing it with us that'd be awesome and last thing and we probably shouldn't bring this up since we're taking time off but we're on patreon well there's that with the exception of the next month if you like what we do or have learned anything we would appreciate
[7:02] if you would become a patron every little bit helps because this is it's not a cheap hobby i mean i thought rc airplanes was an expensive hobby but this is turned oh the podcast is not a cheap hobby yeah this has turned into quite an adventure and fortunately for me ron has footed most of the bill so it's it's not we're not worried about that that's okay we don't have to get in but it is it is a it is a pretty good financial commitment so every little bit helps worthwhile
[7:29] like ron said if you guys like what we do and if we've provided something useful to you and if you don't mind a small small contribution every little bit helps large contributions are okay yeah we'll take the large ones too and just a reminder we don't we don't buy cool new toys if you donate on patreon it all goes right back into the podcast usually for recording equipment yeah for updates for all that kind of stuff and yeah there's stuff yeah
[7:56] there's software licenses that need renewed and other licenses yearly licenses that need renewed like on some of the podcasting. I love when you talk about stuff. Are they called search engines? I don't know. Whatever. But there's costs involved. There's podcast hosting. There's website hosting. Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff. And that's, tell us all about it, Tom. Every little bit helps. That's all I'm going to say. And we appreciate all of our patrons thus far, too.
[8:27] We do. Thank you very much. Well, I think that's about it. So let's actually start talking about something more fun. Yeah. How about an update on the battery situation that you mentioned last time? So if you guys remember, it's probably been, what, three weeks ago or so, I told you a story about a an acquaintance of mine and tom's that had a battery yeah thank you that had a battery that died on him it was a lipo battery and he
[8:54] wanted to bring it back he had drained all the way no no it didn't drain all the way down that's right he tried to charge on his charger and it aired out he assumed the battery was dead parjans charger and it aired out he assumed the battery was dead so he tried to revive it I'm not going to get into it again but we're not going to describe the process but he tried to bring a battery back from the dead and I love this story because it just gets better and better
[9:21] no it's not funny actually I don't want to want to act like we're not condoning anything. Well, and I don't want to browbeat anyone either, though. At times. And I've got the brows for it. I'm just saying. At times, browbeating is warranted. I will say that. But however, okay, so back to it. Back to the story. So long story short, he tried to charge it. He overcharged one of the cells to where it was dangerously high. And he called me, and we were talking about and
[9:45] i told him get it out of your apartment now surprising honestly if we could back up for just a second sure surprising to me that that battery didn't go off before like you're right because i mean that one cell was extremely overcharged it was about five and a quarter volts yeah when it should be nominally 3.7 well 4.2 is fully charged right but like the nominal voltage is three seven yeah so fully
[10:12] charged 4.2 and this thing was over five volts for a lipo that's crazy crazy voltage for one cell that's one cell by the way yeah single cell and it was a four cell battery and one of them was shorted out so he wasn't getting any voltage out of it yeah so we and your advice to him was to get it out of there now yeah and dispose of it properly i actually i mean i didn't tell him to do anything
[10:37] other than get it out of your house and safely get rid of it yeah now to be fair safely get rid of it. Now, to be fair, we really haven't described the process to our listeners to safely render a LiPo battery safe. I thought we did. I thought we did back in the battery episode, didn't we? It's been a while. As we know, I have a terrible memory. Well, even though, I mean, you don't rely on us for everything. There's a bunch of other resources out there.
[11:04] So, pay attention to other things too, not just us. So if you don't know something, Google is your friend. Yeah. So anyway, this is so terrible. He took this explosively dangerous battery. Okay, this battery that's overcharged. Dangerously overcharged. Dangerously overcharged and threw it in the dumpster. And it's a four cell. Did you mention that? It's a four cell. Four cell, like 5,000 milliamp hour, big four cell battery. If this battery goes off, it's substantial.
[11:32] Problematic for those that it goes off around. You're full of good words. In the dumpster. Just throws it fully charged in the dumpster. Well, it wasn't until last week that I was talking to him and I asked him how that ended up and he said well i took your advice and i threw it away so that wasn't my advice i didn't tell you just to throw it away i told you to dispose of it properly which to
[11:54] dispose of it properly means let's take some charge out of it and i well this isn't the time, as Tom likes to say, to browbeat people, I suppose. But he who shall remain nameless. I told him that, that's very dangerous. I would not want to be that garbage man that picks up that dumpster. Could you imagine? Puts it in my hopper. Yeah. Crushes everything. And then has a fire. And then has a fire. Yeah.
[12:23] So, please don't do that. Don't fire yeah so don't please don't do that don't don't ever don't ever do that like don't do that in person who i talked to on the phone that did it don't do that okay yeah so that's my update on his story i mean just yeah just if you have a battery that is suspect even if even if it's not at five volts for one cell, if your battery is really, really puffy or if it's been in a crash, safely, please, safely dispose of it.
[12:55] And there are ways to do it safely. You can Google how to dispose of a lithium polymer battery. There's lots of ways to do it the way i have have done it or the way i should always do it is discharge it in a safe environment usually outside away from anything flammable just in case discharge it down to its nominal voltage and then i cut the connector off and i throw it in a bucket of salt water we discharge it as much as you can
[13:22] discharge it you don't i mean you want to go way past you want to get down to zero as much as possible yeah but because you're never going to be charging that battery again right and then like i said cut the connector off save the connector because you want to save that by the way one at a time yeah yeah and make them different lengths make them different lengths yeah so they don't yeah i mean once they're once it's
[13:42] discharged and there's no voltage in it they can touch, but it has to be zero. So don't just short it out with a pair of scissors or something. That would be bad. It should sit in a, like the way I do it, you throw it in a bucket of salt water. It should stay in there for a couple days at least to make sure it's completely zero, completely void of any voltage. And then, only then. I usually do like a month. Is it safe to throw away? Yeah. And you can check it with a voltmeter. Yeah.
[14:09] Make sure it's got zero voltage across those leads. But yeah, he did not do that and just tossed it right in the dumpster sitting at whatever voltage it happened to be when he took it off the charger. 5.2 something for one of them. So, yeah. Anyway. Like really, I'm shocked that the battery didn't go off, like, in his apartment. Well, I didn't hear any news stories from around town. Yeah. And I think that would have made the news. Probably. Probably would have made the news.
[14:37] But anyway, yeah, dispose of your LiPos safely, please. And responsibly. Yeah. So what's next? We ran. Oh, I forgot aboutibly. Yeah. So what's next? We ran… Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. So the engines that we're planning on using for the big tri-motor project here… Medium-sized tri-motor. Medium. 144-inch wing, and that's a medium airplane over here to this guy. But anyway, planning on using YS-120s, four- four strokes which are pretty they're
[15:07] animals i mean if i could just say it to me they're animals they they swing a 16-6 prop at nearly 10 000 rpm so screamers the the two that we have of the three that we're gonna eventually have we ran the two of them together and man do you want to listen to it yeah I do all right hold on it never gets old so
[16:08] I mean, honestly, is that not cool? That is so cool. Obviously, there's quite a bit of tuning left to do, but this was just kind of a, hey, let's throw them on something together, fire them up and see if we can get them to run together. And really, the purpose… It was testing. Other than hearing them run together, there was a reason we did that.
[16:27] So our goal initially, which would still be very cool, and if any of our listeners have experience with this, feel free to contact us if you've done this successfully. But we wanted to run all three engines off of one fuel tank. So these are ys engines they use a diaphragm and they they have a one-way check valve and they pull pressure off of the crankcase to pressurize the fuel system so it's a sealed kind of a fuel system that's pressurized and then a diaphragm
[16:57] regulates the fuel flow to the carburetor and this is the old style ys120s that doesn't have a low speed needle right so that's that's kind of what we're coming across now yeah as a problem but anyway yeah yeah that's okay but anyway yeah we we set up this rig that that you can hear and then also see in the video that ron cut to which we'll we'll go ahead and post the full video too of the yeah be sure to check out our
[17:22] youtube channel it'll be on like five minutes of nothing, but those engines running. And I have watched that so many times. I mean, it's music to my ears. Like I honestly, I'm sorry. And that's just two of them. I was not like, I was excited about this. Don't get me wrong. Like I thought this was going to be cool until I heard two of them running together. That's when I like hit home and I was like, Oh my, this is going
[17:45] to be a beast it's really really going to be be something to behold i mean when we show up at the field with this thing i mean it's going to draw attention they're loud because they don't have mufflers no these are older ys 120s straight pipes and the one of them, what would be the number two engine in the video, which would be the one on the left if you're looking at the watch in the video, it backfires
[18:12] every time you back off the throttle. Not backfires, but it makes a kind of a popping, and it just sounds so mean. I mean, I cannot wait to get three of these things running together. Order it. Come on. I want to hear it let's go it's not as simple as just ordering them they don't make them anymore my fault I know you have to go for the old stuff but that's okay because it's going to be the cool stuff because I can't afford the new stuff to be honest especially three of them
[18:43] but anyway so this was a test bed i failed miserably i could not get just even just the two of these engines to run from one tank for various reasons that i'll try to simplify basically we could get them running okay above idle but then as soon as we bring them to idle because of the lack of a low speed needle valve i couldn't get the mixture just right because i had to fiddle with the fuel pressure
[19:10] regulator to get it to run it wide open or above idle so could not get the two issues resolved satisfactorily i think i said that right to the correct level of satisfaction yeah there you go so we've decided that we're gonna go ahead and play it safe and proceed with the project running each engine on its own tank which to me i like better anyway instead of having a single point of failure for the fuel system we have a kind of almost like a redundant sort of
[19:46] system exactly like a redundant system if we lose a tank we only lose one engine in this scenario whereas a single tank we lose the tank we lose all three engines yeah if you lose the tank if you lose one hose fitting if a hose goes bad to where it bursts or something like that then yeah we lose everything yeah these these engines are somewhat finicky anyway. So who's to say on a single tank setup we lose one engine?
[20:09] That's something weird with the pressures and all that other stuff and needles. And then we end up losing all three engines. And this is just a safer setup, and I'm more comfortable with it this way. Yeah, after sleeping on it and thinking about it more i i think so yeah like i i like the idea of having some redundancy because this is probably not going to be a high glide ratio airplane i don't know i mean it's a lot it's a lot of wing man well it's going
[20:36] to be heavy yeah is it though well i don't know i guess it depends how we build it we'll see but anyway yeah so yeah engines, three gas tanks. It's not going to be fun to fill up because by the time you get the last one started, you're going to be halfway empty on the first tank. That's not true. We work together. We work as a team. We get them fired up together. Okay. And maybe use an electric starter. Ooh. That would speed things up a lot. That would. On the startup process.
[21:03] That's true. But anyway. We'll play it by ear. Yeah, so be sure to check out, Ron's going to post the whole run video. It's not fancy. Our test rig is not fancy, but. It works. That's all I care about. What really matters is the sound and just the image of two of these things running together. The smoke. It's a lot of smoke. It comes alive. Yeah. Like I am, yeah. Let's do it. Come on. I've got to find a third one. So if anybody out there knows where I can find a YS-120, hit me up.
[21:36] At a reasonable price, please. Tom at RCPlanelab.com. Tom at RCPlanelab.com. Or you can hit me up on Facebook, too. On our Facebook page, RCPlaneLab. Oh, that message or something that goes to you? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you can message me right through the page, or you can just post whatever you got right there on the page, and I'll see it. You threw me off. I don't remember what I was going to say now. Oh, I'm sorry. I probably cut you off again. Well, I don't remember. I do that a lot.
[22:01] I'm sorry. I do it to you, too. What the heck was I going to say? Oh, yeah. Now I remember. well i do a lot i'm sorry i do it to you too what the heck was i going to say oh yeah now i remember so before before we sat down to record this tom comes up to me he's like so what do you think as like a test bed what if we just build like a big big stick and put all three engines on it and and see how it runs and flies before we do the tri-motor i mean we could knock out a stick
[22:25] in a weekend you really think like well i mean it's gonna have to be a big one if you're gonna put all those engines on it yeah it would have to be a large one but i mean structurally speaking that's a fairly simple airplane and we could probably simplify it even though it's going to be huge and have we'll have to figure out how to mount two additional engines one on each wing panel but i think with a
[22:49] little bit of ingenuity ingenuity yeah i think we could probably make that happen really i just i guess we'll see maybe we'll end up building a big one of those too i don't i'm not committed to the idea but but I think I like the idea. Cheap insurance, I guess. Yeah. That way if something doesn't work right, you can… Exactly. I could be talked into that. But it would have to be soon. Yeah. Because I don't want to keep pushing this off. No, I agree. Like, this is… It's time.
[23:21] Let's do this. Come on. It's time to start making shavings. Good. Yeah. Anything else on the trimotor no that's that's all i want to talk about on that all right last topic the actual topic that we'll talk about channels or chanels oh my god channels or chanelés i don't know it's if you misspell it i've misspelled it so many times we typed up our notes i had a few different versions but yeah channels so first off i want to say
[23:51] you can see like if you're watching on youtube how many transmitters we have sitting out it is absolutely amazing how many transmitters over the years of being in the hobby you acquire that really should just be gotten rid of yeah and this is okay well that's all i'm gonna say and so what ron is referring to is making fun of me because i'm one two three four five six seven he's making fun of me because i'm there's eleven sitting out here and i've been
[24:16] in the hobby a long time and i tend to hang on to things he's he actually he calls me a hoarder which i'm not quite sure I will go along with that. But at any rate, I have a hard time letting go of things. Anyone that has seen your workshop. It's bad. We'll call it an organized hoarding. It is organized. But I'm not saying that in a bad way. Once again, I don't consider hoarding bad. So, and this isn't even all of them. I know. I mean, I have thrown some away over the years
[24:46] that are just, they're just absolutely worth nothing. You've given me one that's not sitting out here too. So, but yeah, I've, been in the hobby a while, so I've got a lot of trans bears. Anyway, okay, channels. Channels. How many do you need? Four. The end. Let's move on. No, okay. So, like, really, how many do you really, really need? How many do you need four the end let's move on no so like really how many do you really
[25:08] really need how many you really need i would say four answer yeah i agree okay good yeah i mean you can get away with three no maybe two no but you really need for for a for and i'm gonna and i'm And I'm going to potentially upset a few listeners and viewers out there, but a Balsa airplane that we like, that's what our show is about, Balsa airplanes mostly. The best flying airplanes out there. We feel, together, we feel that Balsa flies better.
[25:41] And a Balsa airplane, in our in our opinion again our opinion needs four channels well even a foamy needs four channels i mean let's be honest if you buy the like e-flights and the epp foam or epo foam whatever that i don't know what it is right offhand yeah four channels mostly what do you need throttle well you need throttle some way to control the speed of the airplane elevator which controls the pitch or up and down. Rudder.
[26:08] Yep, that controls the yaw or the left to right motion of the nose to the tail. So those are the three that you can get away with if you want to cheat. Okay, I'll go along with that. But if you want to do it correctly and not teach yourself bad habits, you need ailerons. Ailerons ailerons which controls roll or bank yep so the reason i say that we've said this several times before especially like in the trainer episode if you learn on a three channel radio this is what
[26:38] i did i learned on three channel and i taught myself a lot of bad habits because the rudder switches from finger to finger when you go to a four channel the rudder ends up being on your left thumb when you're on a three channel it's on your right thumb at least that's how i learned yeah and and here in the united states mode two is the more common forgot about that setup so no that's fine but yeah you're exactly right that learn kind of relearning yaw control from one hand to the next
[27:06] trips can trip you can trip a lot of people up actually flying is not too different but taxing on the ground takeoffs and landings well if you're flying correctly well i guess i don't play correctly yes if you're coordinating your turns if you're doing all that stuff sure which i don't necessarily do that i like to make fun of ron because he doesn't feed in rudder with his turns again a coordinated turn a
[27:31] coordinated turn or a proper turn usually will incorporate at least a little bit of rudder with your ailerons are you done i mean is that it that's all all I'm going to say about it. Oh, okay. I've beat you enough. You don't need rudder. I mean, honestly, like on a lot of the trainer-type planes, on all the small planes, you don't need them. True. Big planes probably like the tri-motor, like the Yak, like all that stuff. It does make a difference. It does.
[27:58] So, yeah, that's all I'll say on that. Four channels. Four channels are what you really need. But what else would you use? Oh, gosh. I mean, you could certainly use more than four channels. Four channels are what you really need. But what else would you use? Oh, gosh. I mean, you could certainly use more than four channels. Oh, could you? Tell me what you could use them with. For things like, I don't know, let's say you want to put flaps on your airplane. That's another channel.
[28:16] That's number five. So that could be five channels. What if you wanted to put retractable landing gear? There's another channel. Now we're up to six. Let's say you want to put some lighting on your airplane maybe that is remotely controlled. There's channel number seven. What if, like on our telemaster, we want to put a mechanism for opening a hatch and dropping candy or things like that? Well, there's another channel
[28:45] so basically a channel is a is a refers to one channel would be one pathway of communication between your transmitter and your receiver that is so well worded so that's a channel that is beautiful in case anybody was wondering that that's essentially what a channel is. And for each channel you have, you have one lane or line of communication between your transmitter and your receiver. One lane of traffic. Yep, exactly. But sometimes you can cheat, like Y harnesses.
[29:19] So let's say you want two servos. You want to put one servo on each aileron. Which this is very common, by the way. But you don't mind not having flaps or flap rods. You just want to operate your ailerons with two separate servos because maybe it makes the linkage simpler. Maybe you don't want to use torque rods, which is a method of connecting one servo to two ailerons. Is that kind of old school, though? It's kind of old school. Is it? Yeah.
[29:49] Most airplanes are set up with separate servos. But if you have a four-channel radio and you don't have an extra channel to use to plug that other aileron servo into another channel, you can use a Y-harness and plug both those servos within reason into one channel. There's always caveats. And I say within reason, there is a limit to the current that those small little servo wires can handle. So one lane of communication from your receiver is usually enough for one servo,
[30:21] but when you start ganging up servos on it, you could potentially run into issues more often than not a standard sized standard kind of analog even a standard digital servo you're not going to run into that anyway that's how you can sort of operate two servos with one channel by using a wire harness but what do you lose by doing that so let's see you lose being able to adjust them separately so your
[30:46] linkages become very important and they have to be dead on you still have trim you have a little bit of trim on it or you can you can get it to to adjust one way or another a little bit but you're not going to have the individual adjustments that you would have if you ran it separately and new radios i mean they channels have become i mean they're huge i mean it's like i asked you before we started
[31:13] started the show can we can you even buy a four channel radio anymore yeah i think like the the the smallest number i've seen common way at at least, is like six. Yeah. Nowadays, I think for what it costs to buy a four-channel, a six-channel radio is probably, I mean, it can't be that much more. I mean, the radio. I make books for four-channels. Well, yeah, the radio we just gave away, six channels for under 50 bucks. Yeah.
[31:39] So, I mean, I'm not even sure they make four-channel radios anymore. They might for toys, but not for the real stuff we're talking about, right? Yeah, exactly. Channels is how many do you want, how many do you need, but four is basic. Like I said, and six is probably the cheapest and the least you're going to find. Yeah, and by no means, if you only have four channels to work with, should that be a limiting factor? I mean, you can still have a lot of fun with just four channels.
[32:10] See, when I started, like, I think I kind of, that's what I'm looking for, was turned off by the four-channel receiver or the four-channel transmitter because the one that came with my Super Cub was not, I guess, not what you call hobby grade. I mean, it was, but it wasn't. Like, it didn't have a lot of power, and I lost signal multiple times with that. By going up, like, with Spectrum to the DX5, and then the 6, and then the
[32:36] 8, you got a lot more coverage. Power. Yeah, a lot more power output. So, I think for me, like, the four channel ones have always kind of seemed, like toyish yeah well i'm not that's right or not i i know what you're saying and i i feel that way too yeah a long time ago when i how long ago it's been a while when i started four channels radios were kind of norm. And if you wanted extra channels, you really, really had to pay extra for those five and six channel radios.
[33:08] And back then, if you had an eight channel radio, man, you were- You were rolling in the dough. You were, yeah, you were someone when you show up to a field and you had a radio with two switches on it. I mean, you were really somebody. And now I show up with a DX8 and get made fun of. That's all you have. Yeah, you've made fun of me. No, I didn't. You have too. Okay, I said it. Old radio. That's all I said. Still hurt my feelings. I have one too. Yeah, that you don't use anymore.
[33:34] Yes, I do. I flew with it yesterday. Well, I wasn't there. You didn't invite me. Well, you had stuff going on. That's not the point. But anyway, you can still have a lot of fun if you only have a four channel radio and even even a six channel radio boy you can have a lot of fun with a six channel radio flaps retracts separate servos for ailerons with flapperons i mean lots of things you can
[33:56] do with them but basically four channels is all you really really need yeah but i agree i'm not sure you can even get a four channel radio anymore and if you can i'm sure there's a listener out there that will correct me and i hope you do because keep me honest yeah and they do it often by no means am i like all knowing oh we know anything else no so that's pretty much it i mean we talked a little bit in the first airplane
[34:26] episode sort of how to how to set up a radio and i think we may have covered transmitters kind of radio setup yeah there's another episode when so if you want to know how to set up a transmitter you can go back and listen to those those episodes you can find them usually with a cool search function on whatever podcasting app you use but maybe maybe in the future i'll do a quick quick how to set up an airplane or something like that to show you
[34:56] kind of how to set up maybe something with flapperons or how you would use all those four channels all those four channels each and every one of them plus all right anything else no that's all that's all i have i hope hope everybody's at home and healthy and be sure to go to youtube and check out our videos that ys run video is really really interesting man are we really about to get a month off? I think so. Are we going to sign off for the last time for a month? Well, I mean, yeah.
[35:25] For this? We're not going to post anything, but we'll be busy. Cool. Well, before we go, I wanted to say, I forgot. I was busy yesterday, Sunday, because my mom turned 75, and I want to say happy birthday, mom. Happy birthday, Marilyn. Okay. So until next time, until next month, everybody, thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. Thanks for watching. We'll be back. Enjoy our break as much as we do.
[35:51] Yeah. Hope you guys have a good summer. Do lots of flying. Show us your pictures of your swag if you buy it. We like seeing that kind of stuff. We also like pictures of airplanes. Yeah. Send us stuff. Yeah. Send us stuff. Don't be a stranger. Until next time, I'm Ron. I'm Tom. Have a wonderful month. We'll see you later. See ya. Bye. And we're done. Have a wonderful month? I don't know. What should I say? Have a good day. Hey! Thank you.
