Ep 84: Ron and Tom go to a swap meet. What did they get???

[00:00:02] Hello everyone, welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I’m Ron, I’m Tom. How are you, Tom? I’m a little cold actually. We just broke every rule that we said don’t do so. We did. We Tom just got out here to record an episode and as we sat down he looked over at that little air hogs thing that I had talked about getting for free from the guy at the previous swap meet I went to and he’s like: have.

[00:00:33] You flown that? Yet that’s how he talks. By the way, have you flown that? Yet it’s exactly like me. I said

[00:00:38] No, I have not. So we went out and flew it so it might be dark. So it’s dark out. Yeah, it’s definitely.

[00:00:46] Not light out, so I thought I would have enough lights outside to see it. I don’t know why I thought that. I’m not sure you thought that either, and after I took off it might have gotten hard to see, so I just I ditched it in the field, which is tall grass, so I knew nothing was gonna happen. We went and came inside, got a flashlight- because that’s how you find them when they’re in the tall grass- and we got it out. It was fine, it was perfect. Yeah, nothing wrong, fine.

[00:01:10] So then we had the bright idea of, hey, I’ll hold the flashlight on it while you fly it right, I’ll keep it lit in the foot and, believe it or not, that actually worked well. So, yeah, that thing actually is kind of fun, I mean for the wonderful price of free. But yeah, I’m surprised actually that it made it around as far as and as many times as it did. I felt like I had good control over it, which surprised. Imagine, imagine how it would be in the daylight with no wind, and no wind, yeah, and not so.

[00:01:40] Freaking cold. Oh so you ready to start? So that, yeah, that’s, that’s the subject of this episode. Actually, what just flying at night? Well, no, the cool things you can find at the swap meets. We just

[00:01:53] Went to a swap meet. We did, and I actually had fun because I got to go to a swap meet with you this time, not just by myself, I was able to go, people there. But yeah, we, we got some stuff. What did?

[00:02:06] You get Tom, because you actually ended up with a lot. Well, I spent the least, but I feel like I brought home the most. Actually, I mean technically you did. I mean I came home with two items as opposed to your.

[00:02:20] One item you? You only bought. Yeah, you only bought two things. Why does it feel like you bought more?

[00:02:25] Than well, because we did a little horse trading of our own beforehand and after. Maybe that’s what I’m

[00:02:30] Yeah, yeah, okay, that’s what? Because in the last like a week and a half- I’ve hold on one, two, three- you’ve acquired a few airplanes: eight airplanes, holy eight airplanes in the last week and a half, two weeks, two weeks, last two weeks. Yes, I know you’re looking around and I’ve gotten rid of.

[00:02:50] Four: well, I got rid of one, reacquired one, so technically I’m I’m three now it wasn’t reacquired.

[00:02:56] It was acquired. Well, I guess, are you talking? Which one are you talking about? Are you talking about skybolt? Yeah, we did some trading. I traded my- I can’t do it as well as you do- super sky, skybolt four. You remember when you said: yeah, it was a super skybolt, yes, it was. Now I gotta find that clip somewhere. But anyway, I traded that back, not back to you, I traded that to you. For what did? What did I get from you? Because I don’t remember. Go ahead and name them off, so electric.

[00:03:24] Airplanes, yeah, so one of them is an e-flight, the yak 54 with the AS3X, which, before everybody gives me heck about it, it’s an airplane, so what. I mean, like it’s actually if it was balsa. If that airplane was balsa, even though it’s electric, I would. I would have kept it, but it’s a carbon z? Yak, so that.

[00:03:45] Means, by the way, do what the carbon z means. I have no idea. It has carbon added to the foam to make it a stiffer foam. It’s still foam, it is still foam and it is. I don’t like that, but

[00:03:58] What? But if that was a balsa airplane, it would not have ended up in your hand. Well, maybe it would have. Well, but not. Not with this trade it wouldn’t have. Anyway, you got that. Then I had a- I don’t know if it’s pronounced flitton or flighton or whatever it is. It’s a small, very small edge. I

[00:04:17] Think it is. It’s the edge: 540 mini, 40 mini, and it is mini. It’s really small. Well, I mean, let’s not say really small. It’s not tiny. Well, it’s not. I mean, it’s what is that? 30 Inch wingspan.

[00:04:29] Let’s just call it 30 inch wingspan, because that’s it’s pretty small, yeah, but it is a balsa airplane. So

[00:04:34] That’s good it is. That’s what I like about it. A little electric once again. Nice, full control, four channel, or yeah, yeah, airplane, and five if you want. Yeah, that’s my flaps. Okay, what flap flapper on? So I should say. And then the other one is the. Don’t look away, I don’t. Nobody can hear.

[00:04:52] You, I’m sorry. The other one is the ugly, I don’t know what. I guess it’s an edge, it’s it kind of goes back almost a profile, yeah, but it actually has depth, like the fuselage has depth and it has an.

[00:05:05] Airfoil. It kind of goes back to our profile foamy episode of last couple weeks ago- I want to say last week, but I knew it wasn’t last week, last time. That’s what I was going for. That’s a weird like this is one you got on a trade with a bunch of stuff, yeah, and it’s kind of been the.

[00:05:23] The ugly duckling of the group because nobody really wants it. But it flies really well but it’s so ugly I mean that’s I. I just can’t, but it’s I love it because it’s so ugly. Yeah, and for those three airplanes, you gave me your super sky bolt, which I like that plane too, but I do too. I’m surprised you wanted to do that. But so it goes all the way back to your comment of

[00:05:47] I love biplanes. I do love- which reminds me of my position of I hate biplanes. I mean, it’s not that I hate biplanes, but I don’t like all the extra work that goes into it. Yeah, assembling them at the field can be a pain. Yeah, like that’s one wing is enough to put on and deal with all that stuff. But then and so the super sky bolt you got really is simple, the way it’s set up: top wing bolts on bottom wing bolts on whatever those strut things are that connect them. They go in and there’s actually embedded screw or blind nuts in the wings. They just kind of screw the thumb screws into.

[00:06:24] And then the ailerons connect together with a long wire. So it’s simple. This is the old great planes, ARF super sky bolt, which likes it. Good looking airplane, but I just I don’t want to do with all the extra biplane stuff. I’ve flown it several times and I’m I’m ready to move on. It’s got a cool 15 cc gas motor that hurt more than anything. I’m going to be honest with you. If that was a nitro I would have been a lot easier with it, but giving up a gas engine was yeah, so you acquired those.

[00:06:55] Before we actually went to the swap meet. So that was right before, right, yeah. So yeah, you and then.

[00:07:01] Two airplanes that I bought from the swap meet before and then. Not that this is a all about what I bought. I have purchased, have not received yet, but purchased from you another yak. You did 50 cc yeah.

[00:07:14] Yeah, and it’s not a. It’s not a sale that I wanted to make, not really well, it’s not a sale I wanted.

[00:07:20] To buy. Well, but it is, I mean that’s, I don’t know how it’s my, it’s my, it’s my hanger 9 carden.

[00:07:27] Edition yak 54 and if you’re not familiar, it’s a. It’s a 50 cc. It’s a big airplane. It’s a really pretty airplane. It’s a decent sized airplane- white, yellow and purple with the cool checkerboard. I’m a huge fan of the airplane itself. It flies great. It’s just when I’m gonna fly a big airplane. That’s not the airplane I grab, for whatever reason. I always right 50 cc size airplane. I normally just gravitate towards the s-box, probably because it’s closer to the door in my basement than the yak.

[00:07:58] Because the yak takes up a good reason. For whatever reason, the yak feels like it takes up more space than the similar size s-box. I think it’s. It’s taller or maybe. Well, yaks usually sit a little bit taller, yeah, than the s-box. Especially. It’s a pain to get in and out of my basement and it just sits there. I mean, the last time I flew it was the. We looked up pictures. It was september of 2020 and I think

[00:08:23] September 20th of 2020. So it’s been. It’s been a while so, but you didn’t want to get rid of it, but you needed to for a room. Yeah, I, stupidly, I have no idea where I’m going to store this.

[00:08:35] Now because, well, you’ve seen, you have kind of a plan. We look, look back in your shop and they probably fit there, or maybe not, I don’t know. But you, not my problem, you no, no.

[00:08:48] Not anymore. You’ve seen my basement. Now we’re sitting in the midst of airplanes, temporary airplanes.

[00:08:55] Everywhere. It’s temporary, just until you have time to put everything where it goes. But I don’t have the

[00:09:01] Goes area for it to goes to. So my wife is a saint like honestly, yes, I would divorce me if I was. I hope.

[00:09:11] Crystal is listening to this. She doesn’t listen anymore. Oh, she’s too busy. She might catch up later.

[00:09:16] She really needs to listen to this episode. Yeah, I, it’s, it’s, it’s bad like the last, and I was telling you before I have spent more money in this hobby in the last three weeks than I have in the last year. I’m going to do it easily, fair statement and it’s, it’s, it’s exciting. I mean it’s gotten me back to doing stuff, and I think that’s the problem is I’m like back into it. Right, the swap meets really mess with me, because you see so much cool stuff, yes, and then it just kind of that switch gets.

[00:09:50] Turned back on. It’s, it’s cyclical. I mean, I get it, I’m I’m at the peak. No, I’m not at the peak yet I’m heading towards the peak. There’s more well now we’re buying stuff, more, working on stuff. I mean, it’s really got that turned back on, which is awesome. That’s good. It’s good. So we’ll see what’s what’s coming. But that’s that’s not the point of what we’re talking about now. We’re talking

[00:10:12] About the cool stuff and the fun we had at the at the swap, yeah. So this weekend swap me was a really good one. Actually, decatur illinois- yeah, decatur illinois went to that one. So I’ve been to that one before in years past and it was. It was, yeah, definitely hit and miss, but this one was- was really I felt it was pretty good, even though there were no vendors there. Did you notice?

[00:10:31] That. Well, there was a spectrum guy there, so there was a guy actually from spectrum there. Yeah, I didn’t. I didn’t see that guy. We walked around like 485 times. How did you not see that guy? Well, I wasn’t.

[00:10:43] Looking for the spectrum guy? I guess I wouldn’t either. But well, by vendors, I mean the guys who like always show up at the swap meets and they have like the wide assortment of like servo extensions and just yeah, there was none. No, there wasn’t. There wasn’t a lot of parts and pieces. No, you’re right, there was a lot of airplanes, a ton of airplanes, which was awesome. I tell you what:

[00:11:04] The problem with them, though. Like so okay, so comparing the two, because you didn’t get to make it down to columbia, missouri, with me when I- I don’t know when I went right, that one had a lot of what’s what I’m looking for, like the electric ones that were down there were not the cool looking.

[00:11:26] Like balsa electric ones. It was all the foamies and epp foam and all that kind of stuff and there weren’t a ton of them. There was a lot more of the vendor type things that you were talking about down there. They had tables of servo except, but no servos. By the way, like that was the weird thing. Like I went down looking for servos, specifically because Reggie asked me to look at one right which I don’t like, I could not believe that there was one box, I think I saw, with like six or seven servos, but anyway, but it had a lot more of the.

[00:11:59] Like nicer but not nicer stuff. Does that like more expensive but not exactly what I was looking for, like I don’t know how to describe it very well and I’m doing a terrible job, I know it. But they had some big airplanes that were really cool, but I didn’t really get a chance to look at those because I knew I had no way of getting them home. But other than that, like the number of airplanes, like just surveying the tables- compared to what we saw in decatur- yeah, decatur just blew it.

[00:12:31] Out of the water. I mean there were tons of airplanes. Well, and I think so from what I observed at the decatur swap means it seemed like there was one guy there that was responsible for almost half.

[00:12:42] Probably of everything that was there. Well, about a quarter, because he had one full side of the inside row and then and then the front and just a little bit back. Yeah, but there was still a lot of other.

[00:12:53] Planes that weren’t just his, yeah, and really good deals, yeah, and that’s what I was going to say was that, yeah, I so I bought two airplanes. I feel like I stole them. I well, I really feel like I stole them because if you want to tell the story on that one, yeah so. So first airplane I bought was a look like a. It looks like an old pika rapier, which was a kit from the 70s and 80s. It’s a little bit.

[00:13:24] Different: it has wire, this one has wire gear and the tail is a little bit different, but anyway it’s a which that could have been just somebody designing it a little bit different when they putting their spin on it. But yeah, it’s a. It’s a very stick type airplane thick, straight wing, boxy fuselage that somebody had done a beautiful job of building this thing. It’s probably about a 48 inch to 50 inch wing maybe. It’s probably not much bigger than that. Yeah, I agree with that, but designed around a 40 size two-stroke nitro.

[00:13:55] But they had just done a beautiful build job on this thing. I mean, the corners were nice and rounded, the glue joints were nice and tight. These are the things that I look at, yeah, and the covering was just, it’s beautiful, it’s like a it’s cub- yellow and silver, it’s so it’s overall cub.

[00:14:12] Yellow with some silver trim, which, if you would have told me those went together, I would not believe you.

[00:14:18] Yeah, but it’s really sharp. Yeah, it really I’m. I’m impressed. To be honest, what? What really made me pull the trigger was the quality of the build. I mean honestly, yeah. So the airplane- no engine on it, but it’s ready for it, like the mount is on it, it’s already drilled there, already has a tank in it. That’s brand new, even has servos in it. Right and good service. Yeah, they’re good. I think they were three thousand threes. No, they were the spectrum, the spectrum st47s. Yeah, yeah, the digital.

[00:14:48] Ones, right. So the entire thing, the guy was asking seventy dollars. No, he was asking eighty dollars. That’s right, because I ended up paying seventy dollars for you did, which I feel like wow, I mean.

[00:15:02] That’s a steal. I when you look at what you got, you could not buy hardly anything. I mean the covering makes up a good amount of that cross, or the cost the servos themselves. Because what?

[00:15:16] Were there. I wish I know who built it so I could thank them for producing such a pretty airplane.

[00:15:22] It really is pretty. Did it come with four or five servers? I don’t remember it has.

[00:15:27] It has five. That’s what I thought. There’s a servo in each wing and there’s a servo. It’s a one piece wing, so I mean it’s it’s an older airplane, but yeah, five servos, the all the hardware. I mean it’s ready for an engine and I have plenty of those. So, engine receiver and, yeah, battery, and you’re right and I’m all set. Yeah, there was a battery in it, but I tried to put a couple cycles on in that. Oh, there was. Yeah, it had that little square oh thing in it, that. Oh no, that wasn’t that one. Yeah, so anyway, that one. That battery’s bad, so I figured it’s not a big deal, but

[00:16:01] Anyway, yeah that. So I think the thing that set that one off for me- that I was surprised by the colors. Look okay together, like good together, but somebody took the time to do a gorgeous black pinstripe between the colors. Yeah, eighth inch wide, give or take. It’s not a white, it’s less than that it’s, and you can tell it’s hand cut. Oh yeah, because it’s not. It’s not just a roll of whatever it was that they would have used for it, and that really just makes the whole thing pop. Yeah.

[00:16:32] It’s. It’s actually the pinstripe is actually covering. It’s not a ironed on tape or whatever, but yeah, just a beautiful, like there’s not a flaw in the construction, yeah, so I agree. Yeah, seventy dollars, you got a good deal on that one and then, so I was really, really happy about that. So that’s what I bought first, but there were plenty of opportunities to buy other air because there were a lot of airplanes there. But the second airplane I bought go ahead. I was just gonna

[00:16:58] Say that we probably should have taken like my point, like I didn’t want to buy anything big and you even said you weren’t planning on buying an airplane, right, so we took my car purposefully to limit me, because I knew if I saw something that was awesome, a great deal or something like that, I would not be able to walk away from it. But once I saw that airplane, like I didn’t even, I wasn’t even thinking about what we drove- yeah, well, and luckily we hadn’t out. A couple of our friends drove down or drove over there too, and one of them had a suburban, so we were good on that one. However,

[00:17:35] The, the. So you want, you want to tell about the piper you saw, yeah, so somebody had brought a.

[00:17:42] Piper cut, which was the military version, which is the l4 grasshopper. Just beautiful they had. Instead of like gluing the canopy on, they had actually taking, taken scale sized screws and screwed it on, and not in that ugly hacky way that you might think like it was very tastefully done and the build quality on that thing was really, really nice too. Had a- I believe it had a cr. No, I’m sorry, I had a da third. No, what had a dle 30 on it? I don’t know what the motor was and it was all brand new and never

[00:18:18] Been flown and it was the. The paint job was beautiful scale cockpit. Yeah, I mean everything.

[00:18:24] Was done beautifully. What was that like 400, right? No, it was 425 what they’re asking, but I mean the

[00:18:31] The covering. What did they use on? Could you tell what that was? I believe it was painted either silkspan or poly the polyester. That’s what I thought too. But yeah, it wasn’t a regular covering. I mean it was.

[00:18:43] It had that. What’s the pinking tape and stuff on it too. I mean, that was just done, yeah that. So I’m gonna be honest, had I not like, if we would have taken your car, that would have been my purchase, yeah.

[00:18:57] I, I, yeah, I’m glad I didn’t. Had I not limited myself on the cash that I took and I had already spent a little bit of it before I really looked at that airplane, yeah, I probably would have bought it that.

[00:19:09] That was because I don’t own a cub right now I don’t either, so, and those like, I’m not a huge fan of the regular cubs, but I really like the, the grasshoppers. I just like the green color better than the yellow. Yeah, so that one was one that, and that was a good size. I can’t remember, I don’t know.

[00:19:24] If I looked at the wing, did it have invasion stripes on the wing? I don’t remember paying attention to

[00:19:29] I was thinking it did, but I could be. I thought it did too, but hey, it was beautiful that one did not last long. No, no, that was gone. That one was gone pretty quick, very fast, understandably. I mean, like that was a heck of a deal for what was on that airplane. Yeah, what you? I was gonna say so.

[00:19:49] Moving on to the second one that I bought. So it’s a. It’s a nobler. So lots of companies have made kits of the nobler it’s a. It’s a popular control line airplane from back in the 60s that has been converted for rcus and they changed the wing design. Good flying airplanes- somebody had one there that was well built again and attractive color scheme. But what attracted me to this particular airplane was the engine that was on it. It was a brand new, well like new- rcv 56, which is a- I can’t remember what rcv stands for, but it’s a compact four stroke. So

[00:20:28] Instead of using overhead valves with the push rods and all that, it uses a, a sleeve valve, which is a really, really unique way of controlling the intake and exhaust. And this thing is bench run only and I believe it after I’ve- I’ve had it apart already, of course you have. By the way, I took it apart. Well, I didn’t take it all the way apart, but I took it apart enough to really give it a good inspection and it’s- yeah, there’s no, there’s no black anything and it’s- it’s practically new.

[00:21:01] They haven’t made these things for a while and they were really, really, really expensive. I was going to

[00:21:05] Ask timing, like. Do like when they stopped like so there was a warranty card in it so we know when that one was bought, but do like when they stopped making them. I think they were. I think.

[00:21:15] They were stopped, they, they had stopped importing them. I want to say they had stopped importing them around 2012, 2014, ish, okay, somewhere in that time frame when they actually stopped producing them. I don’t know, because they’re produced, I think, in england. I think I’ll have to look. But okay, just a, just a real unique engine, and I don’t own one. Well, now you do. Well, now I do right. So that’s that’s why it attracted me to that airplane, and so they had. So the price he had on it was, I think it was 175. No, it started off at 275, 275, that’s right. So I walked around it and I made sure.

[00:21:52] So there’s a go ahead. No, I was gonna say so, it was 275. Apparently it didn’t sell quick enough so he marked it down to 175. Yeah, took 100 bucks off and then, yeah, that’s when we saw it is when it had already been. Yeah, and actually it was one like. Of all the airplanes that were in there I could have. I had no problem walking away from any of the other ones because they’re my or nitro. This one, like I, just I’ve never seen that shape before and there’s something about the coloring that the guy did it in and whatever, it’s a gorgeous airplane that I really just like. Yeah, every now and then.

[00:22:26] You get those airplanes you’re like I love. Hey, there’s something about this airplane I really like, and that is what kind of? For me, it was the engine that was on it, right, yeah, so Tom’s strategy, so like there’s. So I’ll get back to the airplane in a minute. So there’s a strategy. Right, when I go to a swap meet, I have this, this thing that I do, and it drives you crazy because it takes time but it works right. So you walk around and you make sure that the owner of whatever object you’re interested in knows that you’re interested in that object, but don’t make an offer on just look at it. Oh,

[00:23:01] Yeah, this is nice. Well, I really only want it in this case I the airplane. I really only want it for the engine, but that’s if you want to take the engine off, fine, I’ll make an offer on that. But most guys don’t take tools, as we discovered, yeah, to swap me, so that usually doesn’t work. So just make sure that they know that you’re interested in it, and if you’re the only one that has expressed interest in it, which I’m pretty sure- no, we were there, a couple, I don’t.

[00:23:29] I did, I watched, I watched two other guys go up and talk to him about it. Oh well, so you have to.

[00:23:34] That’s just part of the strategy. Also. You just you can’t fall in love with the first thing or the item that you see, otherwise you’re going to be paying him whatever he’s asking, and that’s.

[00:23:44] Not the goal of the swap meet. Well, it’s not. But so here’s- I learned this a long time ago, okay, and this is you and I come at things completely, completely differently and I think it’s because, like, when I see something I want, I have learned that I want to move on it and I want to make it happen. And I want to make it happen now because it’s not going to be there forever. Like I remember back when I was, when my wife and I started dating, we went to ohio columbus, ohio, for a swap meet for automotive stuff and, long story short, there was a plasma cutter first thing we saw when we got into

[00:24:21] This was a plasma cutter- great price. I wanted it. I didn’t want to carry it and I didn’t want to carry it back out to the car. Yeah, so plasma cutters are heavy, they are. Yeah, I didn’t have one, so I just I let it sit and I said I’m going to get that. On the way out I learned then you got to buy it then because by the time I went back to it was gone. So that is ingrained in me now. So when I see something I want,

[00:24:45] If I really, really want it, I don’t walk away. I get it. But in my case, at this particular swap meet, I probably have one of everything there, at least not that motor, not the motor, but I mean I have a, a 50 size four stroke. That if I needed a 50 size four stroke I’ve got one, true, so there’s nothing at this swap meet that I really need. What I’m saying like well, nothing any of us really. So I don’t fall in love with, with anything that I see, except for that little yellow airplane. I.

[00:25:16] Did fall in love with that, but I still didn’t. I still didn’t pay him what he was asking. So, but you bought it, I did, and you didn’t walk away. Yeah, I did. I walked away from it a couple times, but oh yeah, because the first time I walked by it I told him I was like I would buy this, but I just I just don’t have the room, yeah, so on and so forth. Okay, so anyway.

[00:25:37] You didn’t discuss price, though. No, no, no, not until you actually discussed price, then you bought it.

[00:25:42] Right. So anyway, the other deal here I had the advantage of. Really all I wanted was the engine on this particular. The airplane was neat, I like it, it’s cool. And had I not done what I did with the airframe- we’ll talk about that in a second- I probably would have kept the engine on the airframe and flown it or whatever before. But I had the advantage of not really wanting the airframe so much as just the engine. So I told the guy I was like I made sure he saw me looking at it a couple times and then I’ve talked to him about it’s like: yeah, I really

[00:26:15] Just kind of want the engine. Would you take what? What would you? What’s your bottom dollar? He’s like, well, I’d take this much for it. I forget what he said. I think it was 125..

[00:26:24] So 125 is what he said. Yeah, so I’m like this is where I get annoyed, because you stepped away from that when we talked about it before you even said: if he gets to 125, I’m gonna take it. Yeah, I did say.

[00:26:37] That, but it had. It had been a while since I had gotten back around and it was still sitting there, so I knew that, like no one else really was like interested enough in it to pay 125 or 175, certainly, which

[00:26:54] Is what was on the piece of tape. Well, and you also said- and I fully understand why you changed your mind on that too- and you told me that from the time you said that to the time that he made that.

[00:27:04] Offer. He said that he had ran it. Yeah and that’s. And yeah, when? So when I told you that I would pay with the 125 that was on the, based on the assumption that it was a brand new engine and mounted only well, then yeah. Then later I discovered that he had actually admitted to running it on a bench, which, being an engine guy, not knowing how the engine was ran, that’s very first few minutes. Those are really important. Yeah, those are the. The break-in period. Yes, make or break. Yeah, exactly so motor. So then I was not so excited about the one anyway, so I was like

[00:27:41] Now 125. I just really want it for the engine and I walk away. And then would what? 20 Minutes?

[00:27:48] Later, half hour later, I don’t know what it was. Well. So this is where we kind of have our discussion, too, with oh yeah, and I was like, well, I, I really want the airplane, like I don’t care about the motor. And then you’re like, okay, well, I would be happy paying 100 bucks for the most. I was like, okay,

[00:28:04] I will give you 25 bucks for the airframe, right? So that’s when I went back to talk to him, and then that’s when he told me that he had run it, yeah. So then I’m like, oh well, okay, well, I’m not sure if I want to pay a hundred dollars for an engine, now that. And so then we walk away and I’m like, hey,

[00:28:19] You said: you said 100, what are you doing? You said you were getting. Yeah, what is going on? Like I’m like: come on, what are we doing? Somebody’s going to buy it, because that’s how I operate it and I’m.

[00:28:27] Not good at these and it’s okay if somebody else buys it, I there will be other deals, it’s not? You’re right to me, it just wasn’t that important to try to pay 25 more than I should have. Yeah, I get it. So it’s 20 minutes, 30 minutes later from when I we talked to this guy or whatever, and then. So we’re down there making fun of making fun of the other guys that ribbon each other, and then the guy, the owner, comes down and says, hey, and I got an airplane or I got a radio or something I want to buy here. If you, if you do a hundred dollars, I’ll sell it.

[00:28:59] To you for that. Yeah, he needed cash so he could go buy something else from this. So if you wait him out, me see you can get the really good deals. I’ve not had that experience, though, like for me.

[00:29:09] I’ve waited every time but and it’s gone. Yeah, and I wasn’t like in love with it, I didn’t need it. If I could do it for the good deal, then I would have gotten. But see, I was hearing the 25 airframe.

[00:29:23] So that’s what I was, and okay, and when he went down to 100- which, by the way, he went down to 100- I still gave you 25, so it was only 75 bucks for that motor. You did pretty good, I did very good.

[00:29:35] I think you did. Yeah, especially now based on the looking at it inspection. Yeah, I can’t wait to.

[00:29:40] Run it 2007, I think, is what that plane was built. Right, because it came with the actual box, yeah, which was kind of cool for the engine box, yeah, warranty card said I think it was march of 2007, and then, ironically enough, that’s right, that battery that came out of it also had march of 2007 on it. So that plane was built 14 and a half years ago, right, did I do the math? Something like, yeah, 21, 27, yeah, 14 and a half years ago, yes, and has not been flown and it’s just there, yeah, I mean.

[00:30:15] That’s. That’s funny that it’s been that long since it’s been built but never actually flown or done. Yep, so yeah, I have the airframe now you do. I’m excited about it because I’m going to do an electric conversion, which I think will be a fairly simple thing, because I think it should be. Yep, I mean, that was a heavy airplane with that motor on it, because that engine was. It’s a heavy, that’s a beefy, beefy motor, so much so that it had tail weight on it even. And I think I can take all that off and put a nice outrunner or something on it and, yeah, have a good electric conversion. Yeah, that will.

[00:30:51] Make it a good. I think it’ll be a good electric plane. It’s gonna be a fun like I. That is what I’m.

[00:30:55] Excited about. I like that plane a lot, so well. Good, I’m glad you got it for 25. I am too. Hopefully soon.

[00:31:01] I can get working on it okay. So we talked about what I purchased. What did you purchase? I only bought.

[00:31:07] One thing, yeah, but you spent considerably more than I did. I did. I finally, at the swap meet, I should say at your urging: oh, it was you push, you’re pushing. No, you were trying to get me to spend money. I don’t sit there with your mouth open like what? Who me? You absolutely were egging me on. Be honest, don’t lie.

[00:31:30] To me you were not for this purchase. You asked me questions and I answered them before I asked you.

[00:31:35] That’s a good deal. You should get that. That’s a good deal. I was just reaffirming your question. Hey, what is going for? Anyway, I bought finally an ix12, yeah, so we now have the same transmitter. I don’t know if I made a good decision or a bad decision, because it’s ridiculous what that thing does. I mean it’s it’s basic, like it’s a normal transmitter, but it’s got so many bells and whistles on it that it’s dumb. Like literally the day I bought it, my wife was making fun of me because we

[00:32:08] You’re going to bed and I had the transmitter in bed going through it watching youtube videos on how. Watching youtube videos, by the way, on the transmitter, on the screen, on the transmitter- yes, learning how to program the transmitter- how awesome is that? In bed, that’s pretty awesome. Watching youtube videos on the transmitter: I think that’s pretty awesome. That’s dumb. Why is that dumb? Why you don’t?

[00:32:35] Need to do that, so here. Here’s why I’m so excited about this purchase for you: because you’re gonna like learn how to use it and learn all its cool functions and stuff, and then you can teach me how.

[00:32:45] To use mine. See, you egged me on to be selfish, I did not egg you on but anyway. So I thought like I think I got a decent deal on it. The guy was asking 400 bucks and I talked to. I actually did walk away from that one because I it was early on when I had to process it and I knew like I only had x amount of dollars I brought with me and I didn’t know what else was there. So I talked to him about it. I walked away. Somebody else was talking to him about it. I got scared so I went up, talked to him again.

[00:33:19] About it and I made the mistake. I asked him if he would take 350 bucks and he, I mean, it wasn’t. A split second later he’s like yes, I would. And I said: you answered that way too quick. I should have offered you 300. And he’s like: I don’t know if I would have gone that cheap. But yeah, I’m like damn. So I gave him three. I mean, that was the deal, I made the deal, but I, I, I, that’s gonna bother you. It’s forever, isn’t it.

[00:33:47] Not forever, knowing that you could have got it for 20 cheaper than what you had spent on it or whatever.

[00:33:53] It is the price of the airplane that I bought off of you, this airframe. It would have been the difference. Yeah, not could have come out. It didn’t matter, it’s a wash. I still think you got.

[00:34:05] A very good deal. I hope I did, it seems like, based on the prices I’ve seen online. Yeah, I think you did just fine. Yeah, and, like I said, I’m excited because you’ll figure it out and you’ll become a.

[00:34:17] Whiz at it and then you can teach me. I’m excited about like and I know a lot of other transmitters, radios. I’ll have the wireless connections for trainer. I think that’s going to be kind of cool to be able to ask you to now. Yeah, there’s just, I mean like, really like, so the, the dx8 I had that I came off of I bought when I first started. I mean that was my first real radio. When you say, had you still have it right? Yeah, I probably will. I don’t know what I’ll do with it because I mean I’m why would you? I can’t bring myself to get rid of mine. I’m not saying I’m gonna get rid of it, but

[00:34:51] I’m not going to use it. Oh, I mean, like it’s, I don’t program to my stick. Well, for now, you could easily reprogram it. I could, which, by the way, you lied to me, not on purpose. But I asked about transferring models over and you said you can transfer from the dx8 to the ix12. You can’t. That is incorrect. The gen one that we both have. You cannot transfer files from a dx8 to an ix12. Now, if we have the gen 2 dx8 or dx18 or any of the newer ones, like that, you could can. Oh, that is it because

[00:35:23] It’s a different file format. I just read in the instructions manual that you cannot do that.

[00:35:28] It specifically calls that out. I remember reading something somewhere: if, like, if you, well, I’m sorry.

[00:35:35] That’s okay. I was wrong so I’ve started reprogramming. Now, oh, not everything. It’s going to be a lot of things where when I get an airplane I have to fly it. That’s when I’m just going to have to redo it. Yeah, because I’m not getting everything down and going that way. But these new ones- I’ve been working on trying to get them ready- they’re all going, obviously, on that, on that transmitter, but yeah, I mean like it does a lot of stuff and it’s going to take a long time to learn, but it’s going to be good. Like I was thinking down the road too, like eight channels is really not a ton of channels for.

[00:36:10] Certain airplanes, like it’s easier to program when you have the extra overhead to be able to use something else, so like the tri-motor. Yeah, I don’t know, like, if you’re planning on putting that on your transmitter or my transmitter or whatnot, but it probably ought to be on the transmitter, on whoever’s house it lives, at which we’re gonna be yours. We’re gonna have to have that discussion because I’m out of

[00:36:31] Room. Now, that’s gonna be a big airplane, like I don’t know. You think I’m mr. Hey, let’s, let’s do 10 foot. And what wait? If we’re gonna do 10, we may as well do 11. Well, if we’re gonna do 11, we may as.

[00:36:44] Do 12 foot, I mean. I mean you’re right, like it’s gonna be awesome, but that’s that’s starting to get concerned about area and room because it I’m I’m overflowing like it is. It’s pretty bad, yeah, so yeah.

[00:36:59] Swap meet was a success. I had a good time. It was a good swap meet. Lots of airplanes there and

[00:37:05] Good purchases. Our friend Reggie bought one. Yeah, he did. He bought a because he likes our Telemaster so much he bought a smaller version about the 40 size. Yeah, it’s a good, good flying airplane. It’s a. It’s a good looking airplane. I like that one too. He’s got a couple things he’s got to do to it, but

[00:37:21] Nothing he got. He got an extra engine with that, I believe too. Yeah, I’m just gonna try to buy which I’m he doesn’t want to sell. Now, really, that’s what he told me. Well, I mean that’s.

[00:37:29] Probably okay. Yeah, it’s okay because he, he might, like I, I don’t know why it would come with two engines, like is there something wrong with one that’s on there? Like I don’t know, I wasn’t there for that whole deal. Like I know, I don’t know, I know I we pushed him into buying it because he was just waffling back and forth and I don’t know. And you could tell he wanted it. So, yeah, we, we stepped in and helped him, pushed him over the edge. Yeah, kind of like you did with me with the transmitter.

[00:37:55] Mm-hmm, but that’s okay, hear that sound. That’s how sound of me rolling my eyes. Oh, I thought you.

[00:38:01] It was the water bottle, because I just crinkle a little bit when I was getting a drink. Oh,

[00:38:05] No, bob also bought an airplane. He went, he bought, he went, he bought a beautiful airplane. Yeah, like.

[00:38:11] What’s a biplane? You hate it. I’m not into biplanes. On my own, I like the looks of them, but I also like I think about all the stuff that goes into them, and that’s what I don’t like. But it’s a it’s.

[00:38:24] A beautiful ultimate. What size is? This is a dave patrick ultimate biplane which is very similar. If anybody’s still listening to the goldberg ultimate back in the day, I forgot we’re recording. So it’s got a, has an os 120 four stroke on it. So I think the wingspan was like. I want to say the top wing was 56 inches. I think might be a little bit bigger than that, but wingspan is hard to tell.

[00:38:46] On a biplane, because they’re usually a lot smaller for the size of the body. Yeah, but yeah, it’s a

[00:38:52] Good, it’s a big airplane. It’s a very big airplane. No tools to disassemble it. It was assembled at the swap meet to impress everybody with its size. So we were concerned after bob made the purchase how we’re going to get this thing home and we couldn’t find any tools to take it apart. So luckily it fit in the back of back of suburban. Yeah, just barely like I mean that. You guys all doubted me. I said it would fit.

[00:39:22] No problem, I don’t think that’s how. That’s not how I remember it. I think Reggie was the one saying:

[00:39:27] It would fit no problem. And I didn’t believe it because I used to own a suburban, remember? Okay, I know.

[00:39:34] What it fit in the back of one. Maybe I wasn’t paying too much attention. I was just hoping we would have tools to take it apart if need be, but anyway, so it was. It was a good trip, like I, I really enjoyed.

[00:39:43] It. I did too. We stayed there for a long time it was. It was great because it was close. It’s only 40 or so minutes from your place. Yeah, so it was. We were. We were home by what? Two o’clock. No, we were. No, we were home before noon. Yeah, so, even though you said we were there too long, we were still home before noon. Well, it wasn’t that big of a place. I mean, we literally

[00:40:06] Walked around that probably 30 times. Yeah, I mean, not much was changing anything, nothing was changing.

[00:40:14] Though honestly it’s for me. It’s about, I mean, I don’t want to miss seeing something, but also I want to see what’s selling like when you walk around you see something missing, it’s like, okay, well, this sold. I remember what the tag said on this one. If it was something I was interested kind of gives you an idea. You can kind of use that as a gauge to what if you were going to sell something similar what you might reasonably expect to get for it at a swap meet. But

[00:40:39] You don’t necessarily know what it sold for it could have a price tag of that’s true bucks on it and

[00:40:44] Sold for 150.. Yeah, but that’s unlikely. I mean, wouldn’t you, wouldn’t you say that? No, because the one

[00:40:50] No, because the 275 price tag that started. That might have been marked down to 175, but you bought it for.

[00:40:55] 100 Bucks for that thing. Yeah, that nobler, that’s true. So, but the 275- I mean we don’t know what, like it had already been marked down from 275 when we saw it the first. Yes, so it could have had a receiver in it that he took out of it and then discounted the price 100 bucks. No, I guess you never really know what I’m saying. Yeah, so I have to go by what was on the tape current when I

[00:41:19] Saw, yeah, I guess I never thought about something being taken out of it or something, I just assumed it.

[00:41:23] Sat too long and he wanted to finally start trying to move it. Or maybe he had a, a box of servos or who knows? You never know, not, but I like walking around and seeing what’s selling too. So what’s what’s next? There’s like coming up. I mean there’s none coming up. Well, there’s that big.

[00:41:41] One in iowa, I think it is. That’s like jan. No, is that january, february? Oh yeah, that’s a ways away. There’s one in iowa coming up which I don’t. I mean, I don’t think I’d mind making that drive if you don’t mind, and I thought there was another one in missouri, but yeah, that one was quite a quite a ways away. That was almost to kansas, right? Yeah, I don’t think. I think I’m okay with missing.

[00:42:02] That one. Yeah, we’ll see I get. I mean, we’ll see I don’t need to go to swap meets right now. I guess I don’t need to get rid of stuff, I don’t need to go to any of them right now. You just said you were.

[00:42:11] Overflowing, I am overflowing and I am broke. I have spent to the gills my hobby allowance for

[00:42:18] The next 18 years. So we’ve got. If that’s your allowance for the next 18 years, well, you probably got enough to sustain you for a while. I gotta buy batteries, though. Yeah, like and.

[00:42:31] That’s yeah, I gotta buy batteries. All I gotta do is buy fuel, which is about the same price as buying.

[00:42:36] Batteries. Is it though? Yeah, some of those bigger batteries there. They’re a gallon of fuel, yeah, yeah.

[00:42:44] But a battery’s gonna last me a lot longer than a gallon of fuel will last you. I don’t know I’ve had. I got a gallon of fuel that I’ve had for a long time. If we fly the same amount of time, I can get more of the battery than you can get out of fuel. So that was. It was a fun. It was a fun day.

[00:43:00] Though. So, yeah, I’m happy that you’ve joined the rest of us in the 21st century with your radio, so that’s awesome. The rest of us, wow, yeah. No, you gave me such a hard time, for the period I’ve owned mine, I’m I’m glad that I regret that now we’re on an even keel. Now I do regret.

[00:43:18] That now making fun of me or buying the radio? No, making fun of you like I. I don’t think I should have done that. That was a mistake, but that’s okay. Anything else you want to talk about, are you?

[00:43:29] Ready to get out of here. No, no, I’m, I’m excited. That was a. I had a good time, just happy we got some stuff. Yeah, got some stuff. I like talking about it. I do too, like it’s cool. But what’s next?

[00:43:44] Then what do we? We got to buy something, we got to do something, right? Well, I got to put an.

[00:43:47] Engine on that little airplane I got, so I think I’m gonna put a fox. I’ve got an old fox, 45 that’d be.

[00:43:52] Perfect for that and keep it retro. Oh yeah, the red one or the yellow one, the yellow one? Red and yellow messes with me. Yeah, it does, but anyway, but no, that’s, that’s all I got. Okay, well, cool then. Thanks for listening. I think I’m finished until next time. I’m Ron, I’m Tom. Good night, good night we.

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