Ep 110: What a week it’s been

[00:00:04] Hello everyone and welcome to the rc plane lab podcast i'm tom i'm ron and i'm dave here we are once again in your basement doing a little bit of recording it's been a while and whose basement well ron's basement okay i should clarify that maybe we're in everybody's basement maybe maybe we're in everybody's workshop that's where i would prefer to be or car that's not as exciting i got bored with that so let's move on probably not as much rc stuff happening in people's cars so we're

[00:00:39] Gonna continue going down there huh so we're gonna continue going down there what about rvs with a

[00:00:43] Trailer maybe that's where they do their stuff well that would that would be ideal actually

[00:00:47] Because hopefully you'd be at an rc event listening to the podcast hopefully not listening to the podcast because hopefully you're out flying your airplanes i could see in your mind after you said

[00:00:58] That you're like wait that's that doesn't make any sense that's why i have external speakers on my

[00:01:02] Trailer oh god yes drive people everybody could listen huh all five of them at once wow so are we starting over are we just going to keep this no let's keep going so it's been a while since we've recorded which and you can i apologize yeah we're a little rusty but so i've been gone a few weeks with work i went to tucson and kudos to the guys at tucson one of the clubs there the field off of valencia i forget the name of the club they have more than one there really

[00:01:33] And more than one airfield which is pretty pretty sweet but the guys there made me feel very welcome and they got a really slick setup nice asphalt runway and and the pits are really really nice

[00:01:45] Why are you smiling and nodding at me no i'm just asphalt runway that's nice i know it just reminds me of something i want to talk about in a minute well you should probably write it down so you don't forget

[00:01:53] I okay so yeah thanks to those guys for making me feel welcome one guy even offered to let me fly one of his airplanes which i declined you declined i did i didn't know you ever declined i do occasionally it happens yeah i've never more than so i've never heard of it so once is more than i know there you go so now what is what made you decline just i didn't i wasn't comfortable it's a new new location my point was a new location and

[00:02:24] I didn't i just i just i just wanted to observe it's really what i what i went and i didn't have a lot of time anyway because i was working right it's it's a work trip supposed to be working right you have to have some time off well this was during my time off yeah i was able to spend with them but really sweet setup and not a tree or a power line or anything for miles i mean corn or beans beans yeah just a fantastic facility and if you can imagine it's in

[00:02:56] A valley right tucson's kind of in a valley in the catalinas i think is the name of the the catalina foothills but they're mountains to us they live for mountains but it's it's settled in this valley and and the view there's just like these mountains all around and man what a what a great setup they

[00:03:15] They had i sent you guys pictures of them you did i was surprised you didn't actually take anything to

[00:03:20] Fly yeah i i totally could have taken the ultrax would have been that would have fit on the airplane yeah well but i mean i would have had to have taken my transmitter also and a charger and all that other stuff that goes along with it and i tend to pack light so and i just wasn't comfortable with the airline potentially losing my my transmitter that i've not didn't mean to cut

[00:03:44] Yeah sorry do where you're going before you go there i mean like do you have an address

[00:03:50] Well yeah you should send it i totally could ps it yeah i could have and i've got an old dx6 but i could have flown i don't usually on these work trips i don't know what my schedule is going to be so i didn't know yeah i didn't know how much time if any i was going to have because a lot of the times we do 24-hour ops on these on these exercises that we go on so we do 12 on 12 off and usually by the time you're done with a 12-hour shift it really ends up being 13 hours because you have to do a handoff and all that for the shift coming on and and then it's bedtime and

[00:04:20] Then it's yeah it's bedtime and i gotta find some time to eat in there and so i didn't i didn't know what my schedule was going to be but i if i had known what my schedule was going to be i totally could have and should have sent the sent the all tricks and the transmitter and all that there ahead of time but she just bought something were there any happy shops around well i'm telling you i totally i could have like is that your new word totally totally i've heard that can you tell i've been spending some time with kids lately and by kids i mean like 20 something year olds yeah those are kids to me but yeah totally i mean that's like seven not that i'm counting but it's just like he

[00:04:57] Doesn't usually say that that sounds so weird yeah yeah so it's funny how they how they tend to rub off on you especially when you have to work so closely with them totally for for two weeks millennials are fun well they're not a millennial they're not millennials now they're zoomers that's that's that's the new one that's the that that like the new generation that i think there's zoomers i've never heard of them that's what they referred to themselves as whatever but yes to answer your question there was a hobby shop there and it it is so cool i'll talk about this for a minute dave you probably remember way back in the day there was a what why why you

[00:05:32] Always laugh when i i'll go take a nap it's fine well you might remember but you weren't in the hobby then you were alive then okay but you weren't in the hobby probably do you remember rich sorenson he he ran a hobby counter and it was at a hardware store right that was black's hardware black's hardware right well you just don't see that anymore like a hobby shop combined with another business it used to be very common way back in the day well you just don't see brick and mortar hobby

[00:06:04] Shops as much as you used to either these days which is unfortunate but anyway not only one they had so they had this huge ace heart it's probably one of the biggest ace hardwares in like west of the mississippi i think that was actually their claim to fame this huge ace hardware but they have a section of the store blocked off just for our well hobbies which i thought was just super neat and it just really kind of took me back even when i was much younger growing up in taylorville we had a

[00:06:36] Hardware store that had just a counter with rc stuff on it but this place has not only one but they have two of these things like the owner of the hardware the ace hardware there has two ace hardware stores and they're both very large and they both have hobby shops in them which is really really cool that is cool yeah like fully stock that they have pretty much everything yeah i mean so within reason i mean they don't have kits or anything like that because nobody has kits anymore but they had a lot of pretty much a full lineup of of all the e-flight bind and fly stuff really they had some other stuff i think they had a couple of flex innovations mambas or whatever there i mean

[00:07:11] Yeah fully they had they had the new nx10 i think it was had a couple of those in the case he had a full case of hardware like dubro solvent like yeah fully stocked nice and it wasn't just rc stuff he had it that model trains there they had plastic models there and they even had lego which i'm a fan so what did you spend more time in looking at the hobby stuff

[00:07:33] Or the lego stuff which i guess is all hobby stuff the airplane stuff the lego stuff i feel like i i gave

[00:07:38] Each one a fair amount yeah so did you buy any of anything no i didn't well getting it on the plane back home that's i know i i could have but i know you're right but i just thought it was really really cool and one of the locations just happens to be very very conveniently located it's like very close to the to the field i visited which i mean how cool is that like you like a glow plug or whatever way it's just the hobby shop's like two

[00:08:10] Blocks away from where the where their field is which is really it's very close yeah really really neat so nice thanks to everybody in tucson if i didn't tell them who i was or that it was rc plane lab tom or anything like that because nobody would know because nobody would know anyway probably yeah the seven yeah i don't think any of our five listeners live there but if anybody from tucson happens to listen to the show just wanted to say thanks for making me feel

[00:08:35] Welcome it was you should have handed them a card and been like here yeah i could listen to this i

[00:08:40] Couldn't but you don't like it you'll never see me again yeah yeah i suppose but but yeah i haven't had a chance to do much rc related lately so i apologize in advance for the rustiness of our

[00:08:53] Conversation well and that's yeah so when we recorded the previous episode that came out was actually like halfway through our break yeah so yeah yeah it's been weird yeah well we have done some flying

[00:09:05] Since that time yeah we went a couple of times before i left and then we went a couple of times

[00:09:11] It's so bad the weather's been so hot and humid yeah it's broken the last like week or two though yeah it's been really like compared to what it was before we went from 90s down to low 80s yeah yeah

[00:09:22] It still gets hot in the sun but something i've noticed it's a bit off topic but out at the field

[00:09:29] And i'm probably jinxing it by saying this but i haven't noticed the bees fred's been eating them all ah good for fred thanks fred yeah like the little sweat bee things that we complained about so much was it last last year the year before yeah they they have not been as bad this no i think do you think it has something to do with them rotating the crop like it's not corn on top of this now again to wonder that yeah so we should get or ask them to do that next year yeah hey guys can you just do beans from now on forever forever yeah just forget corn yeah it doesn't make you money

[00:09:58] Anyway yeah probably i don't know i'm not a farmer i don't know i just know i don't like the corn when it's in front of us although the beans are almost just as bad yeah apparently there's

[00:10:08] Two airplanes somewhere out there in the beans that cannot be found really yeah

[00:10:13] See i bought a locator but it's it's literally in my box at home yeah it has never been in a plane yeah like that was a waste and the battery is probably dead too no i stored it outside oh and so it's not actually in the locator so it's not beaconing right now beaconing but the awesome thing transmitting if well it's transmitting a beacon so it's beaconing beacons matter careful quick and kind but anyway okay so what's cool though is those little buttons little batteries if you ever need any of them buy them on amazon oh yeah oh my god we bought cheap i know we bought

[00:10:49] Like a hundred of them for the same price as five and at walmart so i will never ever ever need to buy

[00:10:55] Wonder what the shelf life is on those i've had some for five years i keep using my car remote

[00:11:01] They're fine yeah i mean amazon for the button cell battery for the win yeah so locator yeah useless to me in case any of our five listeners don't know what those are it's a transponder that you can actually put in your airplane it's a beacon and if you have the beacon receiver finder it's a handheld receiver thing with these cool antennas that that come out

[00:11:26] And i'm motioning with my hands this is yeah that does nothing for people to listen it helps me though

[00:11:31] Yeah but you if you point this at it the signal gets stronger and if you you can you can actually find your airplane if it works is it i have yet to see it or something i have yet to see it successfully find an airplane in person myself now i've heard that it works great but i i'm with you on this one because you had not seen it i think it was last year and then somebody showed you and it

[00:11:53] Worked kind of it was it was enough to get you in the general direction yeah so we wouldn't be looking past it or yeah because yeah anyway when you don't know exactly what like if you have a general idea when you walk down the field that whole idea of where it is just goes out the front door it does

[00:12:11] True do who makes those like i would plug them but i don't know i don't know i could go look

[00:12:16] But i really don't care that much right now well you can put it on the link page oh that reminds me i like how you did that that was good so we have a links page up now i finally had some time to do that so if you anybody has any links they would have put on there let me know yeah it's a cool

[00:12:34] Resource because i i can't tell you the number of that was a car that was a very loud yeah usually we can't hear those but if like the number of websites and places like that that i have visited just because of what some of our either our listeners or our interviewees have told us about it's crazy so it's surprising that that information is just not easy to find for

[00:13:01] Some well and you don't think about a lot of times trying to search for new things to look for true

[00:13:06] So yeah i didn't realize i wanted gliders until we interviewed jim okam jim okam that's right yeah so he's the one that first brought up yeah so i didn't know i wanted a glider until he got on the show and he mentioned i think it was i don't even remember what free tech i think it was or something like that well anyway it was one of the websites he recommended and of course i went on there and there we go here we are five gliders later

[00:13:32] Which still sucks high start with the high start but that's okay we'll figure it out i think what we should do i know we've said it before but i finally have everything switched over we should take the golf cart out and we should try it that way okay well that was easy yeah i mean why not

[00:13:48] It's got a it like it's a lot of walking like even even taking the thing out in my car and dropping it off and then it's still i mean i should have i should have started my watch because it was a workout yeah putting this thing out there and getting it set up and like we said before you need to do it

[00:14:05] When it's hot in order to make use of the thermals or else well 35 second flight yeah but if we can drive down to get it the the short flights don't bother me as much so yeah we'll see it's a good idea we'll try that and see how it goes before i forget you said guest and that reminded me we're probably not going to have a guest episode next week because i'm lazy i will take the brunt lazy i will take the brunt of this i don't want to get into it too much but we piper had some breathing issues as

[00:14:35] One is in the in the hospital for four days so that's why she's doing better she's doing better now but still that was time away and i just it's amazing how quickly you get behind on things

[00:14:47] Yeah and just like i am so tired right yeah i still feel like i have not fully reconnected from

[00:14:53] Being gone on my work yeah i've been home over a week two weeks i mean that would yeah so yeah so i'm going to apologize by the way to everybody now this episode is going to be one you probably want to fast forward a lot through because i i just i mean i feel as though so no guest episode next

[00:15:11] Week probably however if you want to be a guest on the show and we still sorry we still have

[00:15:16] People lined up yeah like i need to get in touch with so it's not that we don't have anybody so if you're thinking hey i submitted a a guest request whatever be a guest thank you on the website we still need to reach out to you we know we're sorry like i said timing just really

[00:15:33] Messed with us the last so ron will get them scheduled but also in addition to that if you want to be a guest hit us up on the website there's a be a guest form on there link thank you and we would love to have have you on the show so and they're a lot of fun to do anyway they are at least i think so i i keep coming back with that yeah yeah so let's talk about reflex so i mentioned i mentioned that on the discord one day and it's like it it blew everybody's minds like i thought

[00:16:04] This was a fairly common term okay hold on let's let's tamper that down a little bit i don't want

[00:16:09] To i don't want to say it blew everybody's mind no there was a couple people that were like what the heck is he talking about so reflex which i was one of them yeah it's just it's basically just an uptick of the airfoil if you can imagine if you look at a wing side on right you so you've got the leading edge at the front obviously and the trailing edge at the back obviously if you draw a line from the leading edge to the trailing edge that's the cord line right so generally speaking most airfoils sort of follow us a similar pattern like the airfoil on the top of that line

[00:16:44] Is usually kind of similar to the airfoil shape on the bottom of that line like the top on a symmetrical wing yeah on a symmetrical wing the top and the bottom half are the same the same shape reflex symmetrical yeah reflex takes the top of that wing and pulls it down right so now that you've actually got kind of a concave surface on the top and a convex surface on the bottom so it looks sort of like a banana if you will kind of except fatter in the front and trailing edge

[00:17:15] Thinner so how do you add that well you can do that a couple different ways if the airfoil is not designed that way you can sort of artificially influence the airfoil by adding some up trim to both ailerons so you take the clevises and turn them out or in however however your ailerons are set up so that you so that you move the ailerons instead of drooping they are actually kind of up a little bit you can sort of cheat and get yourself a little reflex and i forget the context of the conversation

[00:17:43] I think we were talking about the twist yeah somebody was talking about their hanging nine twist

[00:17:46] And i don't know what it was but you said that and what does that do i mean like so to me for for for the twist i had one and it flew like i didn't like the way it flew it was nearly impossible to land the thing smoothly because it just kept wanting to float and float and float to the point it would just stall it would just like without any kind of warning so adding a little bit of that reflexes is almost like the anti-flap the yeah the opposite of killing so it's it's taking a

[00:18:17] Little bit of a little now it's not like a drastic depending on how much you add but it made that airplane fly more sport like and i had more control of of the the flight envelope leading up to stall does that make sense like it didn't float right up to the stall like it would actually sort of lose lift and fall before it would actually stall which made it much easier to land smoothly and it was a much better behaved airplane in general after i did that so it's kind of like spoilers then on each kind of kind of yep yep except it's not just doing the killing i mean because

[00:18:53] You still have the the ailerons doing their function and still providing some some degree of

[00:18:58] Lift but just not as much yeah so that's reflex disclaimer we're not aerodynamicists right exactly

[00:19:04] And i don't think we had to say that i think that's pretty much and some like really really

[00:19:10] Complicated airfoils like let's take the horton for example which i know you don't have to say i'm not gonna ask you're looking at me i could tell what's going through your head no anyway the horton at the root of the wing has it's actually built into the airfoil it has reflex and then as you move out on the wing it flattens out flattens out and then it's more of a symmetric shape at the at the tips tips yeah thank you which i find interesting i don't know why that is i imagine it has something to do with the weird shape of the airplane but yeah there's actually

[00:19:42] Reflex built into the airfoil at the root and then it gradually interesting yeah wasn't easy to build by the way i'll say that which is probably why i haven't worked on it in a while because i it burnt me out because it was difficult to build so moving on because that's that horse has been dead for a year so reflex yeah that's what reflex is and if you want to try that on an airplane that is somewhat difficult to land because it just wants to float trying half a degree or one degree of deflection upwards of the ailerons and that'll now is that something maybe you could

[00:20:16] Do like on a switch to test it out or is it not that different to try it yeah you i mean depending

[00:20:21] On the on the capability of your radio and whether you have separated individual servos operating your i guess i didn't think about that yeah you could totally program program that into your radio yeah you could operate it as a flap but just instead of using positive values use negative values or vice

[00:20:37] Versa yeah it's just a flap in reverse yep yeah exactly huh good to know it's also very common

[00:20:43] Flying wings yeah okay well the horton that's what that's what it is so yeah and why is that

[00:20:51] Properties well they're nothing but wing yeah so they probably don't want a lot of yeah yeah so

[00:20:58] So there you go yeah interesting so we joined the monticello model flying club which we've already talked about that no i don't think we have i think we did did we yeah well then why do

[00:21:10] We bring that back up well because you went to the jet rally we did i went with reggie

[00:21:18] It yeah i want a jet that's what you got out of that that was my whole takeaway like there is something okay now wants a jet i don't when i already told crystal i want a jet like that's kind of been my theme for the last week or however long it's been like anytime she wants to spend money i'm like well that's jet funds i mean we gotta you gotta be careful but there's just something about the sound and about watching a jet fly i don't know what it is but it is the big ones those are so much

[00:21:48] Fun to watch there were some huge jets there yeah some very pricey i'm sure models that would make me yeah like i i can't imagine flying that like just the the numbers are going through my head of if i

[00:22:03] Crash i could have bought another car kind of thing i flew ollie's jet there one day one time a couple years ago really and yeah the whole time i was flying it's like okay if this goes down this is my expedition yeah which one was that it was a really large sport jet i don't remember the name of it but it was quite large unbelievably good flying airplane though i couldn't believe how nice it flew how'd you get to fly that we were at a fly in there and ollie was there and was just offering people

[00:22:34] To fly his jet and that's awesome you can't pass that up no i i buddy box or anything i would hope

[00:22:42] It was a buddy box i mean for his sake i would hope yeah yeah because he doesn't know anybody from

[00:22:48] Anybody else that if he's just offering it to people let me loop it roll it flight inverted wow really yeah it was just fantastic it's like wow that's nice but that's the same price as my

[00:22:59] Expedition well that one was but you can get entry level more inexpensive they are they are slowly they are getting cheaper slowly but they are i think what impressed me though like okay so i will admit i know nothing about jets like you probably know more than i do so that's well i might because i do know this to start them it's all done on your transmitter you program a sequence in it has a brushless motor built into the front of it it spins up and gets it to a certain rpm before i think it's before it adds any

[00:23:32] Fuel to it then it has a glow plug that ignites some fuel when it's in it and that's how you start them i think that's impressive that must be new ones because well let's just put it the ones they had at the jet rally okay that's how i saw like everybody yeah off it goes like oh it's time to go up bunk and then you just hear everything go up and i'm like really that's how you start them that's

[00:23:54] Pretty cool yeah they haven't always been like like i know a little bit like i know that when they first came on the scene people were out there with like leaf blowers getting them to spool up and

[00:24:03] Stuff so they still had those but after they landed to cool them off like you'd see after they land because as soon as they turn them off like there's just all this smoking and stuff that comes out the back of them and they would go out there with their little makita battery powered leaf blower and go into the inlet and that would cool them down but i was like i said here we go another another

[00:24:25] New what what's the word i'm looking for discipline of rc that we need to learn i think so great and

[00:24:34] Like i can't just i still haven't learned gliders yet well i this is my two-year goal by my teachers right over here by the way what are you doing saturday by the way yeah i'm teaching class again but it's dog classes well that's not as fun i don't know that's well but it's fun too well it is fun but i said not as fun i didn't say that's no fun maybe not for you maybe dave really really likes that do you like it better than flying no see so that's all i said dang it i'm right again but

[00:25:09] With the jets that's reggie and i decided because i went with him that that is our two-year goal that will probably not happen because we've seen how our goal for the tri-motor went that's no fault of our own though it is okay i i will take some of the the some but because like i think between the two of us i don't want to give up all my balsa but i think between the two of us we probably would have enough to make a fairly big start on it true so yeah that's true that's fair but two-year goal

[00:25:41] For both of us to fly jets at that jet rally you and reggie yeah reggie and i i'm sure you'll be

[00:25:47] In on that i am not going to i'm not going to set that goal for myself because you will fly one of our jets well whatever but i can't afford one they're expensive they're not that bad they are terrible you're right i can't like i mean i try and tell myself like even an inexpensive used one is a decent one is 2500 on average for a decent one and that's for that's low and that's a small one yeah usually that's so yeah that's just how i can't we're for a new one you're probably six to seven grand but i will i will be more than happy to watch you guys and help you in any way i can i will be

[00:26:23] More than happy to do that too so i think i need to get rid of a lot of my airplanes like i don't know we'll see this has been the year of collecting i've i've come to notice that we've we've been

[00:26:34] Steadily increasing our hanger not capacity but like i'm not sure everything we've practiced jenga

[00:26:44] A lot more on trying to figure out how to store these things which i'm failing because they're still everywhere literally if you look behind me there is no it's my old yeah a very nice yak sitting on my counter still a good looking airplane that is straddling counter space and the fly is great i can't wait to fly it i'm i went through it i had to redo a whole bunch of stuff on well i didn't have to but i wanted you wanted to yeah wasn't happy with how the radio was set up because i'm so paranoid with all that stuff i don't want to lose it well i wasn't happy with it either that's

[00:27:12] Why i bought the board which apparently didn't wasn't going to work either it would have worked okay but

[00:27:17] I have this one so i wanted to use that one because it's better do you want the old one back by the way just your power expander no it's okay okay so i added my smart fly eq6 board to this one and that will be nice once it's all ready to go one of these days i need to go out and start it up and tune it and make sure it's all running right and all that but i went through everything checked all the surfaces made sure everything was good so the smart fly board is the eq6 at least the one in here is way overkill because the the servos are not matched on any of these surfaces

[00:27:52] So i bought it for my big yak that has two servos on each aileron on the rudder yeah and then the elevator is split but it's still two ailerons and on that you can match the servos what the elevator is split but it's still two ailerons i told you i'm out of it i'm sorry so the elevator is split but it's still two servos okay that's what i was going to call me out because like i said that we've been i was

[00:28:14] Tracking and then you said that i'm like not making excuses but after i had like no sleep in

[00:28:22] The last so yeah anyway so one server per elevator half but still yeah it's controlled by the same channel yep at least that's how it was set up so with the smart fly board that i had you could do all the endpoint adjustments center point adjustments and all that on that board yeah but this like i said the smaller yak this is the hanger 9 carden yak does not have two per any of them so i didn't have to worry about servo matching on that actually i take that back as the i think there's two on the elevators yeah so one for each elevator so that's overkill but i like the fact that it's got the

[00:28:59] The regulator built into it so i don't have to worry too much about over voltage and all that kind of stuff if i wanted to change batteries out and use actual yeah like lipos yep and it also has

[00:29:09] The yeah and you wouldn't have to worry about the receiver voltage either yeah so you could still use

[00:29:14] Older receivers with it if you wanted to which is what i have in here i think it's an ar8000 yep i remember i don't remember but it's not a high voltage it's not one of the new some new ones now this is old has two satellites and all that but anyway so it has that and then it has the opto kill switch for the motor which is all built into the board which is nice so i got rid of three whole switches because i switches to me are another failure point yeah absolutely which i don't like having so many switches on there so this is a soft switch that will turn on the whole board

[00:29:46] And the batteries plug in directly to it so i like that i will have to look into something different for my big yak because this is what was in there so we'll figure that out when i get to it but like i said this one looks like it's all ready to go we'll just have to do a couple more things and we'll take it out to the field now that i have my expedition you can i can and that one that one

[00:30:07] Will will handle the grass with no problem no matter how tall it is my hope so because we went flying recently didn't want to bring that up well we can bring this up in a manner that is not not accusatory okay so the the grass happened to be a little bit long and it's been very wet and it has been yeah we've had a lot of rain lately so we have like it grows fast and there's but anyway

[00:30:31] Yeah so you took the small yak and i took the carbon z yak which is a little foamy yak that hanger nine makes it ironically i got off of youtube it's like i get all your hand-me-downs well i wouldn't

[00:30:44] Call them hand-me-downs hmm maybe i didn't give it to you because it flies bad or anything like that it just didn't have room well you didn't give it to me either well you did kind of give it to me well

[00:30:54] No you gave me all your nitro motors but anyway no is that was that in that i think so yeah i remember i don't remember that doesn't matter but that one like i i was having problems with the as3x on the ailerons which is very twitchy when i went oscillating and i just yeah i could not like i was upset with the length of the grass because every time i landed it would flip over it did and made me feel like a terrible pilot even though it's not really my fault right so i just i

[00:31:27] Flew it twice didn't get everything set up right i will deal with that when the grass is cutting in and you want to break it i mean like that's the problem every time it flips over i'm like oh that's one more smack on the back of this airplane yeah making everything weaker and to be fair to be fair

[00:31:43] There even my stick my trusty old stick was having issues 60 size yeah i had to take it off on the on the road on the rock yeah on the rock road which is not good which is not ideal no but made it work but yeah grass was a little long that day but yeah i i yeah we don't need to say

[00:32:04] Anything more about but not long enough to stop my fokker that ran into your plane well i wasn't gonna

[00:32:09] I wasn't gonna mention it but since you did you were having issues like like that was the most trouble i think i've had i've seen you have with a world war one airplane ever this thing had a mind

[00:32:20] Of its own like every single time tail would come up as soon as the tail come up i know there's gonna be torque and it's gonna go to the left this thing hard 90 degree turn every time the tail came off the ground yeah and i it's been a long time since i've flown this airplane and i know it's a little twitchy on

[00:32:36] The ground oh my goodness yeah it was so i don't see dave flustered very often no but you were definitely i was not having a good job aggravated this would be a good so i'm going to take this

[00:32:52] Time just to say dave knows how to fly dave taught dave well a lot of people how to fly so he's very good at it yeah so he's not like this guy that has no clue what he's doing so to hear him say that this airplane has problems on the ground i completely believe him oh yeah it's not like you could say he said that like i would be like okay yeah i don't believe you like if dave says that i believe it yeah so putting that out there like yeah trying to make sure that people don't think dave's like reggie jr what i mean well no i mean i don't think it has it has occurred to me that ever

[00:33:25] Since we started doing this i've had more than my fair share of incidents i've gone for years without any issues and then this summer it's our bad juju yeah well i don't like your biggest problem has

[00:33:37] Been one plane though and that plane is no longer with us well it took care of itself well we've had

[00:33:44] Another incident yeah what so we went out and you were you were when i was up in the hospital

[00:33:51] And so we we were gonna have a night fly night yes and this is what sucks by the way i set this up yes like this was my idea to go out there friday night i had oh anyway that's i'm not yeah

[00:34:04] So yeah we we went out there and reggie was there and i guess it was just three of us wasn't it yeah yeah and dave dave took his big l4 which you would have loved oh i know i want to see that it's

[00:34:18] Like that's it's such a that's a plane i would love to own one day and i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead

[00:34:23] And throw it out there he has a yellow cow so it's a it's a green l4 but it has a yellow cub cow and of course me being an idiot dave you're not gonna fly with that yellow cow well the model that it is actually modeled after after actually that's it flew with the yellow cow but anyway he didn't get to

[00:34:45] Fly it unfortunately what happened well we put it together which is a little bit of a hassle it's there's a lot going on with it with struts and everything worse than a lot of biplanes yeah my honestly my triplane is easier to put together in this thing yeah well in that case i'm rethinking my wanting one anyway we've got it together and this is a third scale sorry this is

[00:35:09] A third scale so it's oh i'm sorry it's a big airplane so it's quarter scale then you're it's 100 inch 108. big plane it's a big plane big plane pretty though so i'm standing at the front of it

[00:35:22] Squeezing my fuel bulb because my gasoline can doesn't use a real crank pump like everybody else i've got this old outboard primer that i use so i'm squeezing and squeezing and squeezing and building up my hand strength like i need any more hand strength walking on crutches all day but right

[00:35:37] I'm squeezing and squeezing yeah you were down there filling the tank for a long time how

[00:35:42] What's going on so i gotta step to the back of the airplane so i can look through the door at the fuel tank because you can see the fuel tank at that point i realized there's fuel running out the back of the airplane like not just running the back the very back like by the tail wheel yeah and then seeping out through the entire fuselage bottom it's just dripping yeah oh no i've probably put

[00:36:04] 20 ounces of gasoline at least 20 ounces because that's a probably a 16 ounce tank yeah it's a 16

[00:36:10] That's and it was full and it was still pumping away yeah so the tank was full no the tank was not full not a drop not a drop of fuel in the tank that's right it all remember bypassed the fuel lines had broken at the tank oh with the front of the tank like the whole front of it both of them which was really weird and the fill line both had broken and from squeeze one i had been putting nothing but raw gasoline into the fuselage which is a big airplane so there's a lot of fuel in this

[00:36:41] Airplane a lot of crevices you picked up the tail and it sloshes yeah oh no yeah so what what do you do like just let it drip well we turn it up on its nose and let it drain back through the hole at the front yeah because the firewall is not completely sealed up so it was able to drain out but yeah it's running out all the seams on the covering the fuselage out any hole in the tail for push rods there's fuel seeping everywhere mm-hmm and what what's that covered with because that's coming

[00:37:15] In a cover all roll with paint oh my gosh got lucky it did not damage any of the paint that's awesome however i did find that apparently gasoline reactivates the stick it that you use to put the cover all on oh no because now the next day when i go to work on it i can't get the hatch off it's react it's basically glued the hatch the hatch on but anyway we take a quick quick post-mortem at the field we yank the engine off because i have access to the fuel

[00:37:46] Tank from the firewall pull the hatch cover off pull the fuel tank out and there's no fuel lines attached yeah to it now on the weird side i've never had this happen before you expect these fuel lines to get hard brittle and crack these things were soft and supple really you pull on them though and they come apart like a gummy worm i'll be darned i've never seen that happen before they've always gotten crispy just crispy yeah now is that the regular tigon it is tigon but it was the kind of clear stuff not the opaque stuff i had a bunch of opaque and i had a bunch of clear at home and all

[00:38:25] Of my clear stuff which older which used stuff was soft and gummy like that the opaque stuff was not yeah yeah that usually just gets hard it's hard yeah so i had to completely re-tube the entire airplane i brought it home stood it on its nose opened all the doors up on it and put a box fan on it all night in the garage by the way it was a long drive home i'm sure i bet did you remember

[00:38:47] I was gonna say do you remember any of it because i wonder how many brain cells that killed did you

[00:38:54] Did you get it out of the vehicle that night yes i did get it out of the vehicle that night

[00:38:57] Fred was a little loopy but fred the dog your garage smelled good for a few days yeah it still does got that all taken care of changed the fuel lines everything looked good we did pull the battery out of it at the field and i was a little nervous pulling that apart yeah because it was it had been completely submerged in an inch and a half of fuel of gasoline yeah and what happens when

[00:39:24] You unplug things sometimes that are electric yeah yeah luckily we it didn't there was no sparks thank

[00:39:30] God i i pulled it apart as fast as i could yeah but yeah i don't know fast is better or not though i didn't want it to spark twice yeah might get away with one might get away with one but a second time

[00:39:43] God but yeah it was i've never seen a fuel tank do that like i've seen lines break and and that but i've never seen two of them completely completely come off and you're right there was not like a drop of fuel in the tank none of it had made it to the tank but it would have been a full tank because you were squeezing for a while i've been there a while yeah and i know about how many squeezes

[00:40:06] Not counting but i i know about how long it takes to fill this tank and after 20 minutes you're like wait a minute why is my five gallon can empty yeah started full so that was safety message make sure we have a fire extinguisher at the field yeah and if ever there was by the way

[00:40:24] Yes we do yeah there is okay where is it if ever the old frequency board oh okay this is one of those small like under the sink ones yeah it's enough to save it's enough for a minute or two but then get away from it okay but yeah this plays into i mean the end of the season is coming so time for going out those fuel lines because you don't want to fill up your especially if you're doing nitro with the high oil content and that stuff you don't want to soak an airframe with that

[00:40:53] Stuff unless airplane would have been really bad if that was nitro fuel yeah yeah so another reason to

[00:40:58] Stay away from nitro well i mean i wanted to ask before we get way too far off topic what fuel lines do you remember are in this this yak should be taigon they're yellow but they're very silicony

[00:41:11] I think it's that i saw that earlier i think it's that solvent stuff oh is it the bright yellow stuff

[00:41:15] Yeah yeah get rid of that that stuff sucks oh okay i'm sorry but it i don't like that stuff at all it collapses it's flexible which is great but when you put pressure on it or negative pressure on it like from suction yeah they collapse and close off your fuel supply okay well i probably won't fly that until that's all done well i've got it just so happens yesterday i went to the farm store and i bought eight feet of taigon oh did you so if you need some i will need some okay but i'll also

[00:41:42] Probably just need to get my own well okay because i had to re-plumb this b25 thing i'm working on

[00:41:47] Anyway i can't wait to hear about that that's a fun one too next episode i'll talk about it really i want to get it running first okay that makes sense and then i can talk about how much of a pain it

[00:41:57] Was to get it to that point because i'm not there yet you will one of these days well closing out on that i just want to make sure everybody knows that i'm not this accident you're really not i can

[00:42:10] Vouch for you dave is usually well he's not usually he's always the go-to guy if he's at the field he's the guy we go to for any he's the guy you go to when you have problems and you're the go-to guy for anybody else that doesn't have problems but yeah dave is not accident prone he's he's a like he would be a profession what i would call a professional thank you which but unfortunately because of his association with the podcast he's had some accidents you just built him up but i have

[00:42:39] To say that we have to take him down well no i'm not going to take him down but the one part that i don't think we said correct me if i'm wrong so you said you lost control over your whatever that plane was you're flying that when you took off it had a little 40 size fokker d7 yeah that little fokker what i was a little fokker that day oh my goodness sorry i can't so what happened to it like you said you lost control and kind of ran off to the side but what what what stopped you well the

[00:43:11] Last time i tried to take off with it i think it was tommy's s-bock tommy's 50 cc s-bock is what stopped dave's plane 150 65 four-stroke powered toy oh they're all toys they're all toys yeah but

[00:43:31] Funny thing though yeah i don't know how you lucked out to where you guys like you ended up going

[00:43:37] Straight nose to nose i mean it was it was his look like a higgly heavy hub is what it was just a hub yeah like straight into the spinner and like not not even a scratch no damage no broken propeller no covering nothing it knocked the screen out of my radiator oh did it oh well i'm sorry oh geez i

[00:43:56] Don't know if i can fix that well now if that was me and that happened i would rather have something

[00:44:02] Happen to my plane than somebody else's oh absolutely yeah so yeah but it's just me just scratching

[00:44:07] Tom's plane was still unthinkable it didn't it didn't leave it well let's be honest let's get real here that s-bock is not like the most beautiful s-bock out there i don't know if you've looked at it up close that's a 20 footer it's a 20 yeah thank you so even if it had left to scratch i'm not sure i would have noticed it wow but yeah maybe but depends where it is yeah i mean it didn't i mean it's ready to fly again so whatever and no damage at all well you flew it after that didn't you or did you put

[00:44:37] I say i don't remember that the rest of that night i was kind of thinking you did i think i did fly it

[00:44:41] Again yeah yeah so yeah see no harm no foul that's just just feel bad i did i'm not gonna lie it did make me nervous a little bit when i saw that d7 heading directly for it but well that would make

[00:44:57] Anybody nervous yeah i mean like no matter who's flying well honestly that little fokker what i was

[00:45:02] Thinking i was thinking that my carbon prop was going to go through your wing and i couldn't care

[00:45:06] Less well i was going to throw the airplane in the trash can at that point well you you were you

[00:45:10] Were a little frustrated that's yes he was so but anyway yeah that was exciting and i think the length of the grass might have had something to do with that too and this airplane has no tail

[00:45:22] Wheel so it kind of has a mind of its own sometimes yeah just a skid yeah and yeah they're harder to

[00:45:27] Control that way too and you're right grass was tall it was very tall so what else so we mentioned oh go ahead i was just gonna say what else happened on the night that i wasn't there because you

[00:45:38] Guys we got bitten by mosquitoes like as soon as the sun went down behind the trees it was like somebody had turned on a switch and let all the mosquitoes loose because they came at us with a vengeance and they were attacking my hands yeah while dave was trying to fly they were getting his hand he took the the radiant the night radiant out not enjoyable no i'm done yeah now was that your

[00:46:02] First time flying it with a new light controller in it in the dark in the dark yeah nice i'd had a couple twilight flights with it but it did look really good you guys actually flew at night night

[00:46:12] Yeah it was pretty dark by the time by the time we got done done but yeah man the mosquitoes were whoo that's and there weren't any at all before no none it was weird it's just like somebody had flipped a switch it's probably all the rain well i mean like it's the rain we've gone luckily we've gone

[00:46:31] Most of this year without bugs being bad yeah like they've been bad before and i've not noticed

[00:46:37] Really any of them this year i didn't notice the buffalo gnats this year no there was a well there

[00:46:43] Was a little at my house like but now they're always but not comparatively speaking to like

[00:46:48] The last few summers yeah they've not been bad at all not annoyingly yeah i flew the the the

[00:46:54] Ultrax i had the little mini ultrax there umx yeah umx one and then reggie had a he was flying the cessna 150 the cessna that's right and he got like one kind of scaring me

[00:47:06] On nav lights only i was gonna say he doesn't have a night flyer no nav lights only just the

[00:47:10] Nav lights yeah i mean he didn't he didn't crash it so it i'm having trouble seeing the fully lit yeah right and now it's weird you mentioned it at the field and i don't know if anybody else has this phenomenon but like when it got pretty dark like looking at the airplanes they looked grainy to me like my vision is like grainy i know it's because we're older and that's probably it i'm kind of like here's there is your opportunity to because i'm there with you are you

[00:47:41] Grainy as well well i don't know about grainy as much but i'm definitely to the point where if i have to read something up close the glasses come off well yeah but i mean as far as your your

[00:47:52] Vision and darker not so well lit i don't know if i'd say grainy like i i think i know

[00:47:59] What you're talking about like almost like pictures when you take pictures in the low light yeah so you don't get that but i just have a hard time telling like what's up what's down what's coming at me but

[00:48:08] Even even your airplane which was very well lit i would say i was having trouble i mean i i knew which direction it was going i could make that i never had any problem with that but it just wasn't crisp exactly there was no detail at all so you think maybe it was getting a little bit

[00:48:23] Like not fuzzy but a little hazy out or anything no i don't think it was it was pretty was it damp i mean was it like did you feel balmy or anything like that it really wasn't a super humid evening not really i mean it was a really pixelated than fuzzy yeah just well it shouldn't have

[00:48:43] Anything to do with it like my little ultrax i was actually normally i've like any other time i've flown it has been no problem at all no matter how dark it was but for some reason that night even mine just appeared it just didn't so if there's any optometrists listening to this

[00:49:02] It just wasn't crisp so how much of that gas did you guys inhale before that well i mean were you high and just didn't know it i don't know hey speaking of ultrax not to

[00:49:15] Oh yeah okay but we got a message from rick oh we did read it it says rick sent us an email he says i've had the small and larger ultrax the bigger one is his go-to he says they like to get five or six of them in the air at one time and hover around trying to see how close they can get to one another so that sounds awesome that does sound a lot of fun except i still can't hover i haven't like taught myself to hover yet well you need to practice more that's definitely the airplane

[00:49:48] To learn on well for sure but i don't have the big one i have the small one does it ever as good as

[00:49:53] The big one because he says the bigger one is his go-to yeah and i find that strange so okay i i have flown the big one a couple more times like i have not had as much stick time on it as i wanted but it's been around the house here so i haven't i didn't want to mess with cg and all that kind of stuff not knowing how it was going to fly not having the expanse that you would at the field does that make sense makes perfect sense i just want to get more of a feel for it and actually get a couple batteries through it i think it's going to be fun but not for the exact same reasons that the small one is

[00:50:26] Like it flies really good it's very stable it's it's a lot of fun but just not it's not as snappy it's not quite exactly the same as the umx one so okay well it's bigger yeah and what we always say about bigger bigger flies better bigger flies better but i just said the smaller one flies better

[00:50:47] So that's counter to what we normally say i don't know but we'll have to get the bigger one would be easier to learn to hover because maybe it reacts a little slower it might if you

[00:50:59] Want to learn to hover that would be the one no the one that i've actually been practicing on quite a bit is that umx yak like the profile one that's made to actually teach you how to hover because that thing is i mean i can't hover on anything else but on that one just with as3x i can hover really it's very forgiving airplane i love that little thing maybe i'll have to fly that one yeah it runs on a little 150 one cell batteries and it's just like i flew it like four times the other night went through all four batteries i had and it was nice yeah sweet

[00:51:35] So i don't know much about this i'm just going to be honest but l3 industries l3 harris excuse me sky warden like tell us tell me about this thing so i don't know much about it either except

[00:51:48] Well more about it than i do dave knows about it too i think oh does he yeah i've seen a

[00:51:52] Couple youtube articles on it and other things okay well i will tell you what i know about it and

[00:51:58] Then you can take over because i know very little other than i love the air tractor okay love the shape

[00:52:05] Of it and this is the military version oh see you do quite a bit more about it so i don't know

[00:52:11] What that actually means as being the military version but it's the military gray it looks cool

[00:52:18] With hard points oh oh oh so it's like a i think they call them lsa not lsa it would replace the o2 yeah yeah mm-hmm but with hard points weaponized oh i like that i yeah but that was just greek to me however it's gray so it looks really cool so do you think it would be do you think it would be hard to repaint an l tractor an l tractor an air tractor so it's funny you say that this week's tool

[00:52:49] The week it's time for rc plane labs tool of the week airbrush and air compressor so i brought i bought on amazon it's a really cool so okay you gave me an airbrush a while ago i admit i know nothing about how to power them like what kind of compressor it takes and all that kind of stuff so i kind of started looking around i couldn't figure it out like i don't know what size fittings use on that so i found amazon for like 60 bucks was a really what seemed like a very nice air compressor

[00:53:23] That came with that came with all the things you needed to actually start airbrushing so that's tool of the week and that's what i bought silly because i saw that article and i want to make this

[00:53:33] Into a military version are you gonna are you gonna post your progress on the facebook group well let's

[00:53:39] Not get too far ahead of ourselves okay and we can paint the a10 hey that was my other thought behind that too honestly because i knew i needed to paint that also first need to finish sanding and smoothing right but it still needs painted tom thank you very much yes

[00:53:57] That a10 is my horton is it though i hope not i think the horton beats the a10 for the amount of procrastination that has been going on with that project well i understand but this is my procrastination project yeah although your yak has been sitting for a long time too that hurt your big

[00:54:17] One that hurt a lot well has it not okay have you noticed though did you notice when you came over i have started i peeled peeled the covering off yeah that's a big step i took all the servos out i need to go through and do a whole bunch of stuff on it but that is okay my goal okay but i can't okay so i like

[00:54:36] The idea of repainting the air tractor though i i really like because i wanted to do something

[00:54:41] Huh i was gonna go back to the yak oh i'm sorry go ahead i'm i'm not in the mood now

[00:54:47] No so what i was gonna dave is so enthralled with our conversations and he's he's texting someone yeah

[00:54:56] Oh he's okay he's researching oh good i would prefer that as opposed to hi mom how are you no but anyway so i was pulling out my like my plan honestly i'm finally getting back into getting the act done the the big yak i wanted to go through take all the servos out and send them into horizon they're the old jr 8711s which were great servos great servos stupid expensive which is why i wanted them checked out yes since we are members of the monticello model masters

[00:55:27] Some of the horizon guys work there yep i'm sorry some of the horizon guys fly there that work for horizon which is why the horizon guys otherwise it'd be weird to call you that i guess

[00:55:40] Oh this has been a great day and i asked i asked one of the guys there if they still if i could just send them in and stuff and he said no we don't actually work on those anymore they have been discontinued well they've been discontinued for a while but at least they worked on them for well they don't anymore so i am sol support them and i don't know what i want to do like honestly the best thing to do would be get new servos i need eight servos and they are 220 a piece i think so i don't know we'll have to look it up and just kind of see what i decide to do on that

[00:56:16] Because i look at that and i think well there's my jet price that is badass i'm sorry that's really really cool what is you're not obviously talking about what i am talking about well dave just

[00:56:26] Handed me his phone because this is what he was looking at yeah the skywarden yes that is now do you see why i want to repaint mine that is freaking amazing i love that that would be so cool you

[00:56:39] Should totally do that i plan on it yeah maybe yeah i complete with bombs and everything or whatever those i could do that ordinance of some sort oh is that even by hardpoint like hardpoint to mount yeah i gotcha yeah okay look at me learn yeah so see anyway you can learn at any age but yeah servos for the yak serve i don't know what i'm gonna do on that yet but i did find out if i could make a recommendation i would i love recommendations something that's made in america something that

[00:57:08] Is really really super high quality okay kind of silly expensive pro modeler what's kind of silly expensive well they'll be price wise up there with the 87 11s but infinitely in my opinion infinitely better now granted i don't own any yet but i have done the research and i've talked to a few people when i was in tucson i talked to a couple of guys that that had them because i've been thinking about putting them buying them for the tri-motor project because i want good quality servos

[00:57:42] But yeah before you buy any other servos at least have a look at them well i i haven't even

[00:57:51] Decided if i'm gonna buy new ones yet or not okay like i that's that's what's so hard like making that decision of yeah new ones can break too that absolutely true new ones can stop just as good as the old ones can stop that's absolutely true so these old ones they're they're good servos yeah until they're not until they're not but that's the same with any any servo yeah but some

[00:58:11] Servos give you give you more yes than no if that makes no yeah and you worry less about them this guy i at least yeah at least look them up and read i will because like i said the ones i was looking

[00:58:27] At through spectrum were like 220 bucks a piece well these aren't quite that bad they had something like 180 but for the actual going all out yeah like it would be nice and all that yeah because you're

[00:58:41] Not going to need high well for that big one yeah you will yeah for the small one i don't but and

[00:58:44] That's the other thing so i've i've been looking too i haven't quite decided yet because god it just hurts me so much to pull or to spend this much money on a receiver but they have their new power safe receivers now for like 380 bucks i think it's right around there for the power safe receiver with like three satellites i mean it covers a bunch of stuff built-in telemetry which would be nice for this big one i'm thinking about getting the 20 channel it's going to be a little bit more expensive but then i have some redundancy if i upgrade to an ix20 later yes because for that price i mean there's

[00:59:19] Really no reason not or to just stick with the the 14 channel one does that make sense that makes total sense yeah so i don't know the the one okay way off topic but i was excited about this because i asked them on at horizon so all these other ones you used to have a matchbox this is going way back when you had two or two servos per aileron control service you had the matchbox that you had to do well i got rid of those by replacing with the smart fly board the new receivers you don't need any of that stuff with the ix12 i don't know about i'm sure the ix20 is the same way i don't know about

[00:59:54] The dx series or nx series i'm sure they are all the servo endpoint adjustments and middle point is done on the receiver on the transmitter that's pretty cool how cool is that it's very cool that simplifies things by so much that's one less thing to go wrong unless one less connection to yeah to go bad so i'm a big fan of simplification over that kind of stuff yep i like it yep anyway

[01:00:18] How are we doing on time we got time for the the tent story i love this yeah if you love the story

[01:00:23] We will let this one take us out how's that sound okay this will be the unless dave has anything we're going to go out we're going to go out on a hilarious yeah this is awesome so jeff arseneau

[01:00:34] He has been a guest on the show he has really really really cool guy he sent us an email he says hi guys i thought i'd share something you haven't seen before so i'm always up for something

[01:00:46] That i haven't seen before now when i read that i'm like how does he know what i have seen and what i haven't seen well he knows so i'm thinking okay here we go what is this story going to be yeah

[01:00:57] Okay all right so he says if i live to be a hundred i won't see anything crazier than this so right away i'm thinking okay well maybe this is something right that piqued my interest also it's up there the rhode island aero modelers had a two-day fun fly camp out last weekend in celebration of national model aviation day which by the way did you fly for that day i didn't even know that

[01:01:20] Was a thing i think it was a 13th maybe it was that it was a saturday i had no idea that was a

[01:01:26] Thing yeah so but i do now he says a bunch of us camped out at the field and had a steak fry that evening also something i am not familiar with a steak fry sure beats our hot dogs yeah well i think

[01:01:37] I think it's hot dog fry like for people to have more money that could be he says this was

[01:01:46] Followed with a pancake breakfast the following morning after breakfast one of the members was cleaning up and broke down his 10 by 10 tent he moved it out to the middle of the parking lot to dry out in the sun because probably the dew ours get that one too he says we had a crazy burst of wind blow through the area around 10 30 on an otherwise calm morning airplanes were scattered everywhere the wind somehow inflated the tent and it got caught in an updraft it easily rose to 150 feet flew over a densely wooded area and was never to be seen again the ufo looking thing in the photo

[01:02:23] Is a 10 by 10 tent so he sent us a picture and oh my god i laughed at this i i probably laughed at this for a solid 10 to 15 minutes because i've never he's right i've never seen anything like this

[01:02:35] And it does look like a ufo i'm pretty sure that's gonna be on the secrets unknown or something yeah

[01:02:40] It totally does and here's a picture and you could tell it's quite a ways away because it's a 10 by 10 10 and in the picture it looks tiny so it's a ways away above the trees just in stark contrast out there completely by itself in the sky like so yeah i love the fact that somebody thought oh there goes my

[01:03:01] Tent yeah i need my camera yeah so i will put that on the on the website by the way yeah the picture

[01:03:08] Yeah and he goes on to say such a great picture yeah it's an awesome story he says the guy that lost the tent fully admits it's the best 200 story he'll ever tell he says hope you enjoy and are having a good summer glad the show is back jeff arsno so thanks jeff absolutely never seen anything like that now we know dave and i have talked about it and yeah we've

[01:03:31] Seen tents destroyed like an easy up or whatever rolling across the field yeah but i've

[01:03:37] Never seen one go flying away to never be seen again and that high that yeah imagine that with

[01:03:43] Your glider oh my gosh you would be so high oh yeah oh man what's it like to fly a glider and have the wings get ripped right off of it i don't know oh but you do

[01:03:57] Yeah hit him while it's fresh yeah sure well that's all i got guys i just wanted to end on that that's an awesome story i love that i i legit giggled at that for like 10 minutes looking at the

[01:04:10] Photo reading it the yeah it was awesome absolutely all right well it's been fun yeah it's good to be back in the studio basement whatever yeah whatever we want to call it oh that's how

[01:04:24] About that our recording area yeah i'm looking forward to hopefully flying this weekend and closing out the summer by closing out my spreadsheet i was gonna say summer's not that close to being over right well no but i mean by the time this airs i mean it'll be fairly two days

[01:04:41] By the way is when it's oh okay well never mind we're not ahead all right well until next time guys i'm ron i'm tom and i'm dave good night good night we hope you enjoyed this episode of the rc

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