Ep 131: Lee and Fitz from The RC Roundtable Podcast at Joe Nall

[00:00:04] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I hope you enjoy our bonus episode. This is being released as soon as we can get it out because we had the occasion, while Tom and I were at joe and all, to sit down and record with fitz and lee from the rc roundtable podcast. We had a really good conversation that was recorded outside, so there’s gonna be a lot of background noise that I hope adds to the ambiance and doesn’t distract from the show, but we had a very good time sitting down recording with them, fitz and lee, it was wonderful to meet.

[00:00:39] You guys. You guys are a class act. I am privileged to be able to present to you guys the rc plane. Hold on, let me think about this. How’s it going to be the r, the rc round plane table lab cast without further ado, please enjoy. Welcome to joe and all 2023. We are sitting here with lee and fitz.

[00:01:04] From the rc roundtable podcast. Hey guys, welcome gentlemen. Hello there. Hello, this is lee ray and fitz walker with the rc roundtable podcast. We’re here at joe and all 2023. We’re here with Ron and Tom from the RC Plane Lab. Perfect, how’s that? Hello, now we have a mixed intro. We are wonderful. Now you.

[00:01:22] Can cut and splice to your heart’s desire so which runs out of practice by the way yes I have not edited.

[00:01:29] Anything anymore time. That’s. That’s how it should be well, once again, when you’re all together and you don’t care what the actual audio sounds like at this point- well, we used to. We used to do that we.

[00:01:38] Used to edit, like so hard to make. Oh my gosh. And now that we’ve gone to youtube to record all our audios, we just like: that’s it. It’s raw, it’s what it is, that’s what you get and that’s the same with us.

[00:01:48] Like I used to take out every cough everything and oh like our episodes would have.

[00:01:55] He would turn a three hour no kidding a three hour recording into about a 25 minute show no not that.

[00:02:03] Bad. But I will say, like an hour episode would take me three hours to edit. I mean, it was usually three times and yeah. So we, we now we just sit down and say: you get what you get. If you don’t like it, well, that’s still what you get, and you don’t throw it right up after that. So for those of you listening,

[00:02:24] We’re. We’re in the middle of the electric flying area. We actually moved our table and we’re sitting on the grass. We have this table set up and Ron has all his equipment. This is great, but we’re looking at the night flyers right now. Well, that plane has no lights on it, so we don’t know what he’s doing about to crash. It looks 3d flying about 400 yards away from us. So if you hear noise and stuff, guys, this is live. It’s real at joe, no, and we are having a blast. It is amazing. It’s. It’s sad, though.

[00:02:52] It’s the last night, but for us, Ron and I’s our first joe noll and we’re actually really sad that we, as we were packing up today, we were very mopey. I shed a little bit of a tear, to be honest. Yeah, it was, it was. Hey. Only 360. Some days left until next year, right, and crashes happen too.

[00:03:13] Folks that guy just live right into the pilot station so fitz you’re quiet what’s up man oh I’m just.

[00:03:23] Entertained by all you guys. That’s weird, because I’m usually entertained by you guys, except for tommy, but you guys usually bring me quite a bit of joy. I’ll take that. Oh, I appreciate that I gotta.

[00:03:35] Tell you, though, we’ve had this on our show before, but so many people came up to fitz today. I know you this. I swear I don’t and I don’t know who’s listening to the show, but there’s a guy who watches fits on youtube and he’s a kind of youtube channel and he was just fanning this guy, poor fits. I mean, he was mobbed by people today and, bless his heart. We’ve always talked about on our show. I need to get a shirt that says I know fitz watcher. Yes, to get more attention, but

[00:03:59] Darn fits well many people you by join having us join you’ve gained five more.

[00:04:04] Listeners. All right, money well spent, yeah. Well, here’s the funny thing, though. So Reggie, one of our friends that we fly with, we told him we were going to be sitting down with you guys and recording actually getting to meet you here too, and he was super excited that we got to meet- not you, lee, sorry, I know. Sorry, but fits like he loves watching you. He is just a huge fan, and if you would say hi to Reggie he would be like happy right now. Well, hello, Reggie. Thank you for your patronage. It’s much.

[00:04:32] Appreciated I am honored so there you go he will cut that out and that will be his ringtone you are.

[00:04:50] Well, we have made his year, so that’s that’s all it took. So a lot of fun. Other thing today that I was excited about: we got to fly our trash can Telemaster with plywood overcast. That was awesome, like I know.

[00:05:05] I know it was a really slop- and I use this term formation lightly, but it was a really, really sloppy. I’m not sure you’d use that word at all. They were all. They were in the air at the same time.

[00:05:16] On the main line at jonal. I know there are some guys back there going: what the heck are these guys doing up here? They don’t. That’s not worth anything. It’s like one of these things, not like the other. Yeah, we were saying like our planes combined and their value is like one tank of fuel.

[00:05:31] Maybe. Well, ours was free because it came out of a trash can, so, and it was cobbled together with stuff we had laying around four or five engines later. But yeah, and, and yours seems like.

[00:05:43] It did pretty well. I thought it’s just like I like what, excuse me? Fitz said it’s a lazy elephant in the sky and everybody who had their hands on it had a good time. I only had to rip the transmitter away from one person- oh really, yeah, a fellow co-worker- he won’t be named- but he got it into a little death spin and I pulled it out. But what that was just that was so much fun to have that- and this is a shout out to terry, hopefully he’s listening. Terry, your work, your progress to get that sucker in the air is a success. Who’d have thought that thing would be at jonal on the main.

[00:06:14] Line and greatly appreciated. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, thanks, terry, because we let both of us fly it as well. And, man, that was that was fun. It’s fun to fly. You got to sign a good job on it. Yeah, we put.

[00:06:25] Our names on it so I don’t know actually let’s go above and beyond what you got to put on that’s.

[00:06:30] Right, we got to put our RC Plane Lab sticker on because there was a hole that needed a patch. And yes, I mean, and you’re like, do you have any kind of johnny on the spot sticker? But I don’t have any tape, let’s do it perfectly too. And I did. Actually, I’m so glad I put the hole where I put it, because that is great on the rudder it looks wonderful. Sabotage, yeah, nice, yeah. So okay, for those of us that don’t actually know the history of plywood overcast, give us a brief explanation.

[00:07:02] I’m going to start by saying pause. Go to youtube, type plywood overcast. Go, look at terry’s video. He made a wonderful video on how he got it. What they where they think the origination started, like someone who was building it for another. Hello again. This is live folks. We had noise behind this sexy car and I bullied terry into making it fly because I think, what? How cool is that the guy who designed it- if he’s with us or not- has that plane that he never finished flying and having people?

[00:07:34] Other people fly it, like, hopefully, lots of people flying it. So, again, it was just a barn. I say barn find, but this is a basement find and I think what was it? Cambridge university, you think it came from where they were building it for cambridge, I think so. Yeah, so it’s a big plane, 10 foot wingspan. As it’s a t-tail, you’ll see it go on. Yeah, pause, go watch youtube video. Well, he’s about 22 pounds, runs on 4s, three 4s batteries, 9 000 milliamp three and 232 e-flight motors. Having flown it, it doesn’t. It doesn’t fly.

[00:08:06] Like a 22 pound airplane to me it really doesn’t it’s a real sweetheart I think yeah it’s a lot.

[00:08:14] Of dihedral it does have. Well, it doesn’t have any ailerons, well, I know so, but it’s a lot of self centering on that one. I really, really wanted to try the spoilers, I’ll be honest. Okay, see terry’s.

[00:08:26] Already made that complaint on our last show. He said: first off, paint the darn piece of wood that holds the engine motors, which I did. It’s black, it’s black and I like it, thank you. Thank you, Ron, yeah.

[00:08:36] Appreciate that terry did you hear that he’s okay with the black terry I think it would look better red.

[00:08:41] God damn, I am now punching Tom. I was wondering why it wasn’t red, red before. Oh, so it was red before. It was red, but before but. But terry took it, so he took it with his motors, so I digress. So that was one. Number two was he wants the spoilers and I don’t know if you notice.

[00:09:03] It’s top and bottom. You, yeah, I heard you mention that I only saw the ones on the top, but after, after we landed, we were chit-chatting. You, I remember you mentioned that there was spoilers on the bottom.

[00:09:13] Too. So best when best comes around in october, I will see if I can do that. In fact, I’m actually toying with the idea of bringing it to camp ama at muncie in june. So both of my kids have done camp ama. It’s teens for 14 to 17. They love it. I mean it really is heaven for kids. They get all these planes thrown at them. Some a lot of people donate planes and they just put them in a pile and say: have fun, trash can Telemaster right, and so I’m thinking of bringing plywood overcast, have those kids sign it. Oh, that would be awesome, would be awesome, yeah. So maybe while I’m there, while I have some other,

[00:09:46] Tools. I’ll put the spoilers on for you, Tom cool, and then next year, and record it so I can watch it and we’ll have to fly it again and see the difference. Yes, okay, for sure, because I want to come back, that’s for sure. Like joan, all is definitely on my list of your trips right now. Well, I regret you guys.

[00:10:03] Didn’t get to fly the Telemaster though honestly you let us fly plywood overcast but we.

[00:10:08] Didn’t let you fly. Well, that was more because Tom doinked it into the ground. I did and broke the propeller, and it’s hard to believe- and it’s on video too. Yeah, but it’s hard to believe. There are no propellers for sale- 16×8 in this place- that we saw what well a bunch of vendors were propellers.

[00:10:24] But not that size. I know. Fair to be fair. To be fair, we didn’t like spend a lot of time looking like. I briefly looked at the, the one place, and then the extreme flight had their box of free- well, not free, but ten dollar- propellers. But those were all electrics and I didn’t spend a lot of time looking. I’m sure I could have, if I looked hard enough I could have found one, but I honestly didn’t think we would have another opportunity to fly it honestly like, but tonight would have been perfect. Yeah, see, that’s just negative thinking. I know I’m such a down negative nilly.

[00:10:56] Ron tells me that all the time I do too.

[00:11:02] So I’m gonna take over now. Yeah, tell us about jonal. Tell us about your impressions, like the first time you rode into the road and you saw the huge runway. Tell us your, you saw the dancing ponies. Yeah,

[00:11:16] Exactly, wow, yeah, well, I mean like that. You can’t describe it to people that have never been here without them being here, and I. I know that sounds like a cop-out, but until you experience it, I don’t.

[00:11:34] Think you can understand what this actually is. Yeah, and obviously I’m not very good with words and I honestly don’t think that you can put the correct words together to accurately describe- well, can you sign it- the experience? Yeah, can I say well, sign language? Yeah, I don’t know, I speak sign language with a lid. I’m not a podcast. I don’t know where. To be honest, I only know one sign in sign language and I’m not going to share it with you guys. So, but anyway, like when we pulled in and we saw the sign- okay, it’s 12 hours of driving to get here with, we didn’t stop anywhere and I drove straight.

[00:12:12] Through and I slept about 10 of those hours. I approve that message. So when we pull in, we’re about half loopy. Well, I’m about half loopy anyway, so I’m already ready to be done driving. So I saw the sign and the first thing I felt was relief, right, I was like finally I can get out of this car. And. But then we came in and we hit the visitor center, got our stuff and then, yeah, the drive back here looking at the flight line, and that’s just the first one. You see it’s like okay, this, this is.

[00:12:43] Serious like this is: this is a real facility. And then you pass the float line, it’s like okay, there’s another like class facility to fly float planes. And then you pass the electric line, it’s like okay, when does it like, how many of these am I going to go past that? I’m just blown away by how well kept it is and how, just like I said, it’s a class facility, like the amenities are. I mean, there’s we want, we’ve wanted for nothing as far as amenities go here, yeah, I would concur if

[00:13:18] You don’t have something, somebody else does everybody’s friendly right. My hand hurts from waving to everybody as you drive by them and people give you, like I said, a genuine smile when they’re coming by and I have noticed, by the way, that genuine smile at the beginning part of the week is fading on almost everybody that you drive by as the week. Somebody’s tired probably, but well and they have to leave. Well that, and they need showers.

[00:13:43] Well I’ll be honest the shower house that we’re we’re using over here no problems with that at all.

[00:13:48] Oh, I didn’t say that they weren’t available. I’m just saying some people fail to use. Oh, yeah, understood, but what? What are your guys’s thoughts on this? Is your two right? This is your two fits you start? You’ve been kind of quiet sitting over there. Yeah, wake up. Wake up. We came, we saw we.

[00:14:07] Flew got a t-shirt. Really, that’s your description. I guess we should phrase it in the sense that last time we were here, we were in the beginning part of the week and it was sort of the slow. We didn’t realize it what that it was, but it was sort of the kind of the gearing up slow part of the week and so we were leaving just as all the vendors were showing up and all. We didn’t see any of the new time shows or anything like that, because it didn’t happen. Oh yeah, it was kind of weird. So this time we made a point to come back for later. Yeah, like the last half, yeah, so there’s definitely a

[00:14:41] Much more of a jamboree now, with at later in the week we actually saw more vendors the last time we got to enjoy some of the meals they had- the steak dinners and the barbecue dinners, because we missed those, because they didn’t happen. Also, we get to see more shows like the half-time shows, some from a distance, some from close up, noontime shows and that kind of stuff. So there’s more entertainment value, I guess, as a spectator, right. So it was interesting that, as we actually really didn’t fly all that much so far, I don’t think we heavily, it’s kind of been.

[00:15:13] We’ve flown a little bit here and there I don’t know not as much as we planned every time we’ve driven.

[00:15:18] By the electric line I’ve seen lee at one of the stations with a transmitter in his hand.

[00:15:22] Yeah, I mean, he’s flown a fair amount, I think. Well, definitely more than the first time. Well, yeah, we hauled the trailer and, yes, made the arrangements to stay here on with an rv.

[00:15:33] Yes, because last time we flew in and so we pretty much couldn’t take hardly anything with us and we actually ended up borrowing a few planes from a friend of mine that lives in the area, and so this time we can bring all our planes. We have much more things to fly, and we’ve partaken in that, but I think we’ve also been. There’s so much going on that it’s also just sometimes just as entertaining just to kind of walk around and look at things and see what’s what’s. Some really unique aircraft are flying here. That one-to-one scale- a dimisail- yeah, isn’t that cool. Did you see it fly? Yes, I did. Oh, we missed it.

[00:16:05] Well, fly in that. It made a hop. It didn’t make a complete circuit, oh, okay, yeah, the word was it was too windy, okay, and so he flew it. He ran it down the runway, hopped up in the air, flew maybe a hundred or so feet in the air and then brought it back down and it looked like it was a good reason he brought it down because it looked very unstable in the way okay, everything on that airplane looked.

[00:16:28] Loose. Probably what I love most about that particular airplane is the pilot like I don’t know if you, it moves, it moves and his arms move, yeah, arms. I guess it was arms move, head yeah, and so I will not.

[00:16:45] Be sleeping very well tonight after watching that pilot. That thing was creepy, it was kind of scary, I will give you that. But it was pretty cool. But it was a full scale. I asked the guy say: well, have you, do you have to urge you, just jump in it yourself and fly. And he gave me that. Look like no way in hell, am I kidding? No way. But the first time I’ve seen a one-to-one scale RC airplane, that was

[00:17:05] Pretty amazing yeah me too that’s the first for me too yeah and I had no clue they were that small.

[00:17:10] Oh, yeah, yeah, in real life, like I, I assume that was like a half scale or something like that, but no those, that was one-to-one. And to think people actually got in that to fly, imagine the crazy.

[00:17:24] That’s true it was 1909 they didn’t know any better yeah.

[00:17:28] Fitz, you mentioned how. So you’ve got two experiences at joe knoll, one of them the second half and one of them the first half. So Ron and I, our experience for first-timers is probably unique, I guess, because not everybody probably comes to joe knoll their first time and stays the entire time. The first couple of days, exactly like you described, kind of slow. It was like, oh, this is really the facility, is class. But okay, I was expecting more people. But then

[00:18:00] Wednesday hit and it was like somebody opened the gates and just people. That was when we arrived. You guys brought them all with you. I got it okay. That’s the reason to be here. How many buses did that take? I bet that was a bunch. Well, we’ve seen them going back and forth, that’s true. Empty mostly.

[00:18:23] True, so, anyway, yeah, the, the first week, the first few days, anyways, it’s really slow and, like you said, the vendors are kind of showing up and setting up and things like that, but then and then, yeah, wednesday hits and it’s there’s, there’s something to see all the time and that’s. For me, that was, that was one of the things that was really eye-opening, the fact that you, any time you wanted to watch something, there was always something going on. So, yeah, it’s like one of those.

[00:18:51] Three, four ring circuses, there’s always something going on somewhere you can take a peek at. So, yeah, same thing here. Yeah, look over there. It’s like, oh look, the control line guys are doing something interesting. Oh wait, no, the 3d guys are doing something. Oh no, I hear a jet flying over with smoke pouring out of its- yeah, orifice everywhere. Let’s go down to the main line see what’s going on.

[00:19:08] Over there, right? Yeah, well, I mean, like it’s, it’s getting dark out and I can count. I just looked around, count of the eight airplanes that I could see flying. Yeah, actually, I guess seven, because one just crashed. He did. That was our landing. I can’t use my air quotes. Yeah, land arrival: the lights are.

[00:19:27] Still working. So maybe, yeah, I guess you could say that this event is really can fulfill whatever type of flying you like, absolutely much anything you like. There is even helicopters, even helicopters. There’s a helicopter section. Yeah, for all two of them. Yeah, well, if they’re good, they can come join the rest of us. But yeah, I fly helicopters, so I’m just joking on them. But, yeah, there’s a group, there’s a section just for a helicopter, which is real nice, anything they can fly around. It’s not super well populated, but I’ve- last year I actually made a point to go and talk to them and they’re

[00:19:58] Very nice guys. They’re pretty cool. They see them flying around. So, yeah, yeah, so yeah, it’s really. And I think, when we’re talking about busy and not busy, if you like to fly, don’t like to fly with a whole lot of people, then it’s great to come in early in the week. You still get to absorb the atmosphere and the ambiance and you can fly a lot, and that would be really bothered by a lot of people. But if you like the fun, excitement and adrenaline, then you can come later in a week and you see all the really neat stuff and you sit back and watch or you can participate in it. But just a

[00:20:29] Lot going on all over the place any place all the time well even if flying is not something you.

[00:20:35] Enjoy watching. There’s vendors here. So if you enjoy looking at airplanes, there are plenty to look at. New ones, flyable ones, I mean. It’s just like I said, it’s I, I, it. I struggle with finding words to describe this experience. Yeah, I guess we should mention the vendor row. There’s a.

[00:20:54] Lot of vendors out here, yeah, and you can’t really cover roles more of an l shape. Yeah, it really kind of is the vendor l, the vendor l. And there’s a lot of stuff companies I’ve never heard of. Companies are very popular showing their wares, some really interesting and interesting aircraft. Lots of vendors also have lots of little nooks and cranny kind of things, little niblets, and I bought- I was going to say let’s speak about that niblet. You bought which niblet. So I go to a fly-in, I buy a submarine.

[00:21:28] There was a vendor selling a little model submarine here. Yeah, the guy with all the helicopters and stuff in his cars- really I did not see. I saw the helicopters and stuff, the helicopters, yeah, the excavators, earth movers, and the buried in there was a little submarine or a rail-controlled submarine that had working ballast pump. It’s not very big, it’s maybe about four inches long or something really rechargeable, but I just had to get it because I like to play with those kind of things. So, and then there’s another vendor. I bought some carbon fiber strips and things just to play with, just some oddball stuff. Yeah, I saw that there. Yeah, and you bought the last 16×8 prop, right?

[00:22:02] No, you just told me. I want to tell you two or three other vendors that have props. There’s a few, quite a few of them, and they’re from all over the place. I’m from california. Get a 50 carbon fiber 168 for our trash can Telemaster and I? I lived on the edge today. I paid 20 bucks to buy a lottery ticket. Oh, to win that giant f-16 that they were ruffling off. Oh yeah, there were not that many. There was not.

[00:22:29] Cars or not cars tickets in that box so yeah I can’t remember the vendor I’m sorry but was that.

[00:22:35] No, extreme flight. I don’t think it was extreme flight. I don’t think it was extreme flight. But it was a really large f-16. Yes, yeah, it was 200 plus class engine for it, and of course I didn’t win. But I thought, yeah, oh, they did the drawing already. They did a drawing, yeah, today. Okay, and of course it’s a beautiful f-16 xl- straight into my veins. Man, that was, that was beautiful. There’s going to be a

[00:22:57] Go fund me for that. Yeah, I was going to say that, yeah, whoever, yeah, whoever won that, yeah, they’re going to have to do it. Well, it wasn’t for. It was for sale. It wasn’t a raffle. Yeah, this is a different.

[00:23:06] F-16. This is the full, full wing delta f-16. Oh, that’s okay. I jumped from the real, a regular f-16 raffle to the f-16 xl, which is a delta wing modification of the f-16 to compete with the attack craft back in the 80s and I always loved that aircraft I built- I kind of packed a scratch built one many years ago: very small speed, 400 pusher, electric. It was kind of barely flyable. But I’ve always had- I’ve seen a real one too on in california and I thought it was just such a neat looking aircraft and somebody.

[00:23:38] Made a jet version of it. It’s kind of big, a little too big for my taste. Somebody needs to make one about half the size as electric edf and I. I take a couple of them.

[00:23:50] Okay, all five of our listeners now are dialing their contacts with the companies to say: okay, fitz was just said he would buy two of these, so five thousand dollars each we’re making them.

[00:24:02] No the half scale electric one that’s a big yeah I get you.

[00:24:06] Half size, that’s a yeah, that’s a good like I like the f-16. It’s not my favorite airplane, but if I would have won that raffle- going back to the raffle- I would have definitely.

[00:24:20] Been happy. Oh yeah, that’s such a mighty fine piece of aircraft. Yeah, and I have to reveal that I have a. I have a special place in my heart for f-16s because many moons ago, I used to work on them as well for the company. So, yeah, yeah, so we have to trade some war stories. So, yeah, it always sounds pretty cool. Yeah, I remember when we had the f-16s in.

[00:24:42] Springfield before they got rid of them yeah they were always neat to see jets flying around.

[00:24:46] Which you just don’t see that anymore nope not in springfield no yeah we got bragged anyway.

[00:24:51] That’s a whole other story but speaking of f-16s he’s trying to push a draco out of the way or something.

[00:25:03] Dude and goliath there yeah the stuff these guys do when nobody’s looking it’s comical.

[00:25:12] So, Ron, where did you fly? Believe it or not? The only two things I flew. I did bring the shiny, so I got a couple flights on that, and then I brought the. Well, the one you have to the, the beaver or not the beaver? My god, the twin otter. Twin otter, yeah, on floats or on floats? Oh yeah, I was hoping to meet up with you and fly them together. We didn’t. Oh, that would have been nice. Two ships passing in the night, I know like always passing, but wasn’t that neat. I mean flying at the float ponder. So I’ve never flown.

[00:25:43] Off of floats before this ever. And for those of you not watching at home: fitz just almost about his neck. Exactly that was. That’s what was missing. Well, no, I like we don’t have a place around.

[00:25:58] Springfield to where it’s called water. It’s not as fun when it happens to me. Guys, I am so glad you all those monorails in a way. So anyway, I have not had the occasion in my history of flying, to fly off of water and I really enjoyed it like yeah, it’s a lot of fun. It adds a whole nother level to it.

[00:26:24] See, fitz has the umx twin otter and he put floats on it and he flew it in a puddle. That’s all you need, Ron, he says. Wait for the rain and then go outside and just find a puddle- exactly, find a puddle.

[00:26:35] I guess I need to get floats for my umx twin otter. How did it go? Did you have successful flights, any problems? Well, I did not end up getting an airplane off of. I didn’t have to get in the boat of shame to go out and get my airplane. So I call that a very big success, which, by the way, folks the boat is.

[00:26:51] Actually called the boat of shame it’s got it’s written on the side of the boat it’s a retrieval.

[00:26:55] Boat, yes, yes, and the best thing is so, as the week goes on, the battery for the trolling motor it dies more and more, and so it’s slower for them to get out and get their boats or get their flipped.

[00:27:08] Airplanes to get back in there’s Ron plenty of opportunities to take pictures of people and I have.

[00:27:13] So all you need on the boat is to put a bunch of ec3 or ec5 connectors on it, and it would all the people flying with electric aircraft. You have to supply. Supply your own battery.

[00:27:25] There is a paddle in there though tommy said he’s been in it a couple times I like I said I have.

[00:27:31] Not just wanted to point that out. Nice, really, is that true? That’s absolutely. You were in the boat of shame twice. Can you share those stories with us please? Once I was to retrieve an airplane for a.

[00:27:44] Friend, was not my airplane. And then the second time, yes, it was to retrieve my own airplane. Yeah, first time float flyer also. Well, second time, I guess I flew once way, way, way back in the day.

[00:27:57] That doesn’t count so make fun of him for not flying on floats because he’s a lot older than I am truth.

[00:28:02] Be told, my first time flying on the floats out here, I had to go in the boat of shame. Actually, someone else got in the boat for me. But good friends, what was that? It’s a common tale. It’s a very common. What was that? The sea plane that we flew wasn’t the one that greg let us borrow. Oh yeah, the polaris. I think: okay, there you go. Yeah, but I flew my twin honor on floats, had a blast, and then fitz- hilarious, I don’t wish we had video, but fitz posted a video on instagram or a photo of my twin honor with his umx.

[00:28:32] Twin honor. He was buzzing my plane and doing donuts- I mean high speed donuts- in that little thing because the CG is so low. I mean he was just all over the place and we had a blast flying those two.

[00:28:43] Together. Yeah, agree, fits, agreed. Okay, he looks a little hesitant. Yeah, I know, come on. Yeah, but flying off the water here is the, the pond. They call it a pond. I mean it’s. It’s a small lake, let’s be honest. I mean it’s huge and if you can’t land your float plane on that body of water, then you should probably fly with helicopters, buddy with buddy box or something. Yeah, it’s a huge, huge lake and

[00:29:17] Just like everything else here it’s a first-rate facility yeah easy to get to the shore yeah all.

[00:29:24] Those little pilot stations yeah it’s neat you see people driving rc boats yeah there yeah I saw a guy.

[00:29:28] Fishing earlier yeah we saw some fisher people there were some rc sailboats out there.

[00:29:36] A couple days ago too. Oh yeah, that was a first for me as well. Yeah, I’ve never actually seen an rc sailplane actually on the water sailing sailboat, or yeah, you guys really don’t have water because.

[00:29:47] There was an actual sailplane. Someone put floats on a radian. Yeah, oh, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it did like we. We saw him flying. Ours wasn’t. Oh, I wish I’d have seen your time. Yeah, his motor gave out.

[00:30:00] He got a boat of shame. That’s what the what, the what one guy brought he told me. He said he brought an a10 on floats. No, a seven-foot battleship. Oh, did he really? Yes, he said he was going to float it down the 3d area. I hadn’t seen it, but yeah, he said he bought a battle. Oh, yeah, we should mention 3d, he’s.

[00:30:17] Got a pond too yes yeah the guys like to hit their tails in there and go crazy yeah that’s when you.

[00:30:21] Dunk it and there apparently there’s a permanent memorial on that pond of an airplane that apparently.

[00:30:28] Met its demise in that I’m pretty sure that it’s steel and painted yeah there’s no way no it can’t be.

[00:30:35] Balsa it would not last more than a week so I said memorial I didn’t say it was a balsa plane you did.

[00:30:41] Well, when you look at it, though, that’s what you assume, because it’s just a tail sticking out of the water, right, it’s amazing. So let’s see one, two, three, four, five, six, and there’s a radio behind.

[00:30:51] Six now and a fire oh a fire yes a controlled fire yes it’s okay speaking of fire combat okay how much.

[00:31:00] Fun was that. Well, it was great for me because I didn’t lose anything in that, did you? But you competed, I did, how’d you do? And I lost. Fantastically. Okay, it was awesome. Yeah, so I 15 seconds, that’s how long.

[00:31:14] I lasted. That’s it. That’s impressive. Yep, Ron’s got it on video, though, and it’s a really, really impressive glorious it was. It was pretty good it, and I needed a bag, okay, to retrieve the air. How.

[00:31:25] About the person who hit you or you hit flew right away flew right away it was one of those wings yeah.

[00:31:30] So what happened? Was it happened so well, 15 seconds. Well, what were you flying first? Let’s let’s paint the picture of what it was. So, jeffrey arsenault and his crew, from rhode island. They brought planes with them with the specific purpose to fly in the combat sacrifice. Yeah, exactly, they were not planning. In fact, they did not want to take these airplanes home, so they were going to do everything they could to make sure that happened. So they flew, wednesday, these airplanes and they all survived and they’re like, well, well, the one you flew didn’t survive. Well, it was minor.

[00:32:05] Damage. Honestly, it’s still. I repaired it. Crash and that was the deal. Joe told me: hey, I want you to fly this thing. I said, okay, I’ll repair it and I’ll fly it. So that’s what happened, and he called it an aquastar. To me it looks like a kind of like a balsa usa laker, but the motor wasn’t on a pod, it was actually built into the fuselage as a, as a pusher. So, aquastar, look it up. I don’t know it. Maybe that’s what this thing was, but it was all balsa, electric powered pusher. Huge, huge electric motors.

[00:32:37] Six cell what was it well that was like a 2200 six cell that was you yeah they’re like the red maroon.

[00:32:45] Plane yes yeah you were on the other end I didn’t know who that was that was me yeah that was spectacular.

[00:32:49] Right, yeah, so they. They count down three, two, one go and, and, and. By the way, this is a float plane with no gear on it and I did not get a hand launch was.

[00:33:02] Now it’s kindling. Yeah, it’s well, it’s probably even less than that. It’s like shrapnel, now toothpicks. But yeah, they said go and the thing took off beautifully from the grass with, with just the float the hole of the fuselage, and yeah, I climbed out and made one circle and got hit by a flying wing and that was that. It was awesome. Yeah, it was. Yeah, there’s a lot of oohs and

[00:33:28] Ahs yeah I videotaped it so I might have the audio you might I’ll add this to the podcast yeah we’ll just.

[00:33:33] Throw that in there yeah so I’ll have to confess that was my favorite plane I’m sorry well.

[00:33:41] I was hoping that it would make it and we could take it home also but really yeah I don’t I like.

[00:33:47] That one too. Well, I’m really kind of sorry now if I’ve known you guys. You’re not. You were smiling ear to ear right now I was. It was so much fun I did. My only regret is so I had a strategy and I was telling- I didn’t want to tell everybody my strategy, but the strategy was, when they said go, I wanted to already have the motor pretty much spun up so that I could just hit go when they say go and be airborne. And that’s what happened and but my goal was to turn right as soon as I got airborne and try to

[00:34:19] Clip anybody who was trying to come on the flight line, right? Well, it took a little longer to get off the ground, so I was actually past the runway because we were, what- 15 yards away from the runway. So it got past runway and I made my right turn and, of course, missed everybody. So now I’m like, okay, well, I’m going to climb and I’m just going to dive through this. There were how many airplanes? 20 At least, I would think. At least at least 20 airplanes in this, in this tiny little amount of airspace between the 3d electric line and the main line. So my goal then was: since my first

[00:34:54] Strategy didn’t work out. I was going to climb above and then just try to dive right through the middle, and I made about two circuits in my climb and, yeah, this wing clipped the basically the right elevator, which was also the control horn for the elevator, took that off along with the bottom of the rudder, which also had the control horn for the rudder. So then I had no surgical strike. It was like in the video. You can see it. It’s like, and it was instant, yeah. And then the airplane just straight, straight down and I didn’t- I don’t think I brought the throttle back at all, because I was

[00:35:34] But I needed a bag to reach. Oh yeah, it was awesome. Luckily there was a couple kids that walked out with us and used their hat as a back, like they picked up all the little pieces, put it in their

[00:35:44] Hat and just came out. Can I keep this? Maybe they did, I don’t know, but no, I saw them throw it away. I don’t think there’s anything it could do with what was left of that. No, there was definitely no putting.

[00:35:55] That one back together fitz didn’t jeff let you fly was it a calypso glider yeah oh yes he let me.

[00:36:02] Fly briefly during the combat. Yeah, you got nothing and I got nothing, but I did get his calypso going down- yes, because we landed to put more batteries in it’s epic. And then he, yeah, and then he took off again with it, and then he lost his tail. Oh wow, yeah, they don’t play too well without.

[00:36:18] The tail no I got both coming down it was pretty wild yeah and again the cheers oh yeah sacrifice we.

[00:36:28] Demand sacrifice. So yeah, now that airplane will not be going home and jeff doesn’t have his calypso and jimmy he his walrus. He sacrificed that, so that’s not going home. And then, of course, joe’s airplane.

[00:36:42] So, mission accomplished. So can we talk about some of the nice planes that were flying to combat? Yeah, somebody had a brand new trujan edf, the f-16 edf, f-22, edf- there was an f-22, I didn’t see that one. Yeah, so fairly small, but very nice, nice little cub on floats. He was like: why are you flying these?

[00:37:01] Things. What’s wrong with you? I got up and close, up, close and personal that f-22 when he was coming down. In the first we didn’t mention this, but we had two dog fights because nobody was like hitting anything. So we all came down, changed batteries, but when the f-22 came down, man, he came right across my nose. I mean, he was on this side of the runway and I was like hello, hello, but yeah, they had that in there. But I was surprised with the, the t-28 trojan, the yellow one like dude, and he only landed because

[00:37:27] He was out of battery he flew forever yeah no one hit him and like how did nobody hit the cub on floats.

[00:37:34] I mean that’s exactly. It is huge slow target. Yeah, so you mentioned that float plane that you guys have seaplane you liked. I was sad when the air force version of the t-28 went down, because I have one and I think it’s the gray version of the t-28 trojan. Yeah, that guy was flying that and he got.

[00:37:51] His total man. He got severed in half. Cool, we took some pictures of the, the battlefield of the carnage, and it was: oh my gosh, there was so much out there, there needs to be a ring that somebody’s like paint.

[00:38:06] A ring that everybody puts their planes into and there’s you have to call that their ring something I.

[00:38:11] Don’t know, I don’t have the name on top of my head, yeah, and then at the end, light it on fire. Yes, the sacrificial to the sacrifice to the plane, gods, yeah, so yeah, that was my first. That was my first go around with combat and I’m gonna build something special. You’re one for one, I am all right, keep.

[00:38:29] That record one for one batting a thousand that’s right stay out of my way folks or get in my way or.

[00:38:35] Yeah please get in my way yeah what is that timber looks like a timber night timber.

[00:38:45] Yeah, it’s got lights on it. Sorry, we can easily distracted by shiny objects- lots of them. That’s the kid walking with a lighted up. I am easily distracted by airplanes, that’s for sure I don’t.

[00:38:55] Know what that is that’s flying over there, but that little flashing green thing is pretty cool too. Oh yeah, what is that? I know I wish our listeners could see this. Aliens- oh, this is, this, isn’t my.

[00:39:08] Like terry possessing my body. He’s like: okay, we have listeners. I know I’m sorry, you gotta work on making sure you can describe the stuff you’re like because, like we do the recording on youtube and then so we’ll post some photos every now and then, and here he has to chime in goes. So what are you showing?

[00:39:22] Lee so yeah he’s very good at that and I’m not so this is a flashing green and red airplane that’s.

[00:39:29] Flying in the air at night. There you go, close your eyes, imagine, if you will. There was the other day. It was real neat. The guys had the parasail- yeah, the light shining up into the canopy. The hacker guys- yeah, that looked really good. He’s a really majestic kind of parasail. I mean, you see everything here? Yeah, it’s. And they were from germany. Yes, like I loved listening to them talking about yeah, so we

[00:39:50] Go? Who let that? Yeah, okay, here’s my negative. They run every drop of fuel in their jets on the main flight line. They’ll. They’ll have those planes up for 10, 15 minutes they’ll, and then they’ll come down the runway as fast as they possibly can with like bats out of hell, no care for anybody else, because I had plywood overcast in the air when two other jets were in the air and I was like holy.

[00:40:14] Smokes man. See, that’s my, that’s, I kind of think the that main line. Like I, I felt out of place with the trash can Telemaster sitting up there since it is. So what’s what I’m looking for? Cheap, I guess, sitting next to these 25 000 jets- it’s like this is where they come to play. We, I feel, can move into other areas that are not for the big boys t. I don’t feel that way at all. I, I, I was thinking we.

[00:40:49] Should share it’s not like they do a background check on you and find out how much income you make.

[00:40:53] Before you can cross that line. And I’m gonna be honest, I never got the feeling that anybody was like: why are you here, why are you doing this? Like people that saw the plane sitting there, they were all happy to see that kind of plan and there was a lot of pictures taken of them and all that kind of stuff too. But just I think it’s like I see these other airplanes here and it’s like

[00:41:13] You guys do that so we don’t accidentally get in your way well I actually heard someone say are they.

[00:41:17] Really going to fly that on the main line? Oh, did you really see? And you should have said yes, well, I think I told you all earlier is like we were saying. Some people might say: well, this is supposed to be giant scale aircraft. Like half of those jets that are flying right now are not scale exactly at all. Well, 80 inches are bigger and those were perfectly fine. Yeah, well, but I think

[00:41:39] They were trying to stress the word scales like: yeah, no, come on guys. Yeah, but the future, yeah, I don’t think a future like exists in the real world. Yeah. Bdx, yeah, yeah, looks cool, but gbr3, yeah, I don’t think.

[00:41:54] So but so, while we’re jumping on planes, what is something else that caught your eye here? Some of their plane, whether it’s a big giant scale, or 3d, anything else you remember. So I like watching.

[00:42:05] 3D but I think for that line my favorite thing is the 3d jet that they do I don’t know if you guys.

[00:42:11] Got a chance to see that one I think it made a j10 is it the canard delta canard no well then that’s.

[00:42:17] Not the one I’m talking about there’s one that has that and does that yeah but that one doesn’t.

[00:42:22] Perform as well. I don’t remember what the kid’s name is- luke, luca, luca, something or another, but anyway he’s got a, a 3d jet. That he- I mean he- it’s amazing with the thrust vectoring he does a little corkscrew thing with a smoke on. It literally looks like a corkscrew in the sky, like I could just watch that all day. There’s something about just it’s mesmerizing. It is absolutely yeah, so that would be probably, performance wise, one of my favorite things that I’ve seen. Plane wise, though, that gb was pretty nice. Oh, the big one. The r3 was a really big one. Didn’t make it the blue and

[00:42:59] White one then you can’t it may have went in the trees before you guys got here oh I saw another gb on.

[00:43:04] Line. It was huge. The red and white one must have been half scale. Oh yeah, I know that was an r1. Actually had a belt reduction drive. Yes, yeah, yeah, that was so big. Yeah, no, Ron’s talking about the.

[00:43:15] Gbr3 that was down way on this. Oh, r3. Okay, this was r1, I think, and yeah, it was blue and white. Beautiful airplane took pictures of it and had a like a 111 or 120 mounted instead of horizontally, it was mounted vertically because the cows on those are kind of elongated. Yeah, so it was mounted vertically, with this exhaust coming outside. It was actually pretty cool. Yeah, unfortunately, that one met. It didn’t.

[00:43:34] Make it demise. There’s one I saw on the ground. I wish I seen in the air it was the concord somebody, yeah, over there. Yeah, I saw that too. That’s allies. Is it really the concord? Did it fly though? Because I

[00:43:44] Only saw it static. I didn’t spend a lot of time up there so I don’t know what all he flew, but he’s bought or brought a lot of his jets here. Yeah, it was a twin turbine. Yeah.

[00:43:52] That’s the only thing I saw him fly in person and what yeah and you and you think like as soon.

[00:44:06] As you hear well ali flew an aeroscout so immediately you’re like oh well okay yeah sure it looked like.

[00:44:11] It. No, he made it look like a 3d plane. Yeah, absolutely. I mean I was pretty impressed the plane that I own can do that right, but I can’t with an aeroscout. Yeah, with another, his invert, I’m.

[00:44:24] Just saying his inverted pass down the electric flight right here was damn good with the aeroscout. I mean yeah, yeah, I bet it was protesting all the way. It was like 10 inches off the ground.

[00:44:36] Steady as a rock and the safe was like push up.

[00:44:40] They did say that safe and all that stuff was disabled on there. Have you flown an aeroscout yet though? I have one. Yeah, I brought it here. They fly really well upside down. They do like hands off upside down. It’s amazing, yeah, surprising. They fly really well.

[00:44:55] Period and that is a fantastic little trainer I guess you haven’t seen mine because I took no.

[00:45:01] I did see. You just got different color wings- full disclosure. I got mine secondhand from horizon when we were at air venture. They were demoing some and they had a midair and we had all these pieces on the ground. They said, well, we can’t sell these. So they gave them to me and my son and we had to go buy some extra parts and put them back together. But the gear was totaled. So I ripped the gear off and just sealed the bottom, so it’s gearless. And then I changed the prop to a three-blade quad prop and that thing flies like a bet out of hell. It’s awesome. Oh my gosh, I bet.

[00:45:31] That’s cool no I didn’t see that one that’s different I don’t know for me I think I think the.

[00:45:37] Stuff that. That grabbed my attention every like. When I could hear them, it was an immediate head turn. Is this really big radials that are here no matter what they’re in? Yeah, yeah, like I’ve never- I mean, we’ve seen them. I think we saw one or two of them when we were at the street or fly in, I think. But here they have the big ones, though. Right, I was gonna say, but here they have the big ones, the well, and then the val, valak, valach, the lock, the lock, whatever it is.

[00:46:09] Whatever’s in ali’s fly baby those like the sounds are what I think I’m gonna go away with fond.

[00:46:17] Memories of: yeah, there was a fucker wolf, what had? I think it had a monkey radio in it. And then those things sound just so neat, especially when they’re idle, yes, or just off idle, yeah, have that.

[00:46:28] Yeah it’s a wonderful growl tool yeah what about you see there was someone who brought.

[00:46:36] An electro streak and it was really nice. I think terry would be so happy he got to see it up close because it was really cool, a finished one, like one that’s built. It was no, I’m serious. It was a very nice plane. Oh well, thank you for letting me. It still is a very nice plane and this is a. I haven’t seen it. Yeah, I left it in one piece. Yeah, but this is for terry. Again, we’re giving a shout out, terry. Terry, you need to finish your electro streak because Tom’s is awesome. He let me fly. It flies so good. But here’s my story, here’s my joke. This is for you, Ron, because I don’t think

[00:47:07] This part. He hands me the transmitter. I said, so, is this a bank? And yank, and he goes: yeah, okay, because that’s what I have. I mean, my t-33 is a banking, my thunder lines being. And he said, yeah, phil was next to me too, okay, so what is a banking to you? To me, you don’t have rudder, thank you. So he handed to me. I go flying, I’m banking and yanking this thing. I’m having a grand old time. I said: what really could use a rudder? He goes. Well, you have a rudder. It’s kind of like you never told. I said he goes, he goes. I said, banking, oh, it’s got a rudder. Yeah, it’s kind of. So I flew that whole.

[00:47:39] Time, but it flew great. That’s why I’m giving it credit. Expertly build, nice. Covering the fact, Tom mentioned your, your wife made the graphics, or cut out the graphics. She absolutely did it’s. It’s really nice, a lot of fun. And now that I’ve got my hands on it, darn it. Terry’s gonna like say, well, you need to.

[00:47:54] Build one. You kind of want to build one. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I might have to. They fly well, from what I’ve seen, and if they fly like the shiny, then they are good. It flies just like a shiny with a rudder. I thought you were going to say that because there actually was another electro streak here that we saw. Yeah, somebody built yeah like 30 plus years ago. Yeah, yeah, I really wanted to get a picture of.

[00:48:17] The two of them together say something like 30 years separate these two airplanes. But I missed that opportunity. But yeah, he, well, it’s funny. We were sitting here at the electric line and I saw that airplane. It was black and it had a batman logo on the top, which was kind of neat, but black on the bottom and the top you can imagine blank silhouette. The orientation, yeah, the orientation.

[00:48:37] But anyways, if I’m going to build a plane, I’m going to fool everybody but say this is the top on the top and this is the top on the bottom. Yes, that would be awesome. Yeah, have your wife make those graphics for me. I’ll put them in there.

[00:48:53] Yeah done yeah that’s my electric or just say this is the top on the bottom and this is the bottom on.

[00:48:58] The top? I don’t know, sure I don’t know. I think I like lee’s idea. This is the top on the on both sides. Was it the top? Yes, it says it is, but anyway, yeah. So I fly by and it looked like a very familiar shape. I was like I have to go ask this guy. So he landed and I ran right out there. I was like, hey, is that an electro streak? He said sure is, yeah, and he built that from the great plains kit before they did the ARF. So yeah, that was 30 plus years ago, so still flying. Was he flying it like, see this?

[00:49:26] Would make terry like all giddy was it a brush motor no he had converted it but he did tell me when.

[00:49:32] He first built it he was flying it on seven nycads, not nickel metal hydrides. Now that’s seven cell nycad with a. I think. He told me he had an astro cobalt motor and see. The next question would.

[00:49:45] Have been. Was it an on off switch for the throttle? Probably back then like a little servo click on? Probably no. You need to give fitz an evil eye now because he’s got an electro streak, that’s.

[00:49:56] That needs to be finished. Yeah, I got the shortcut. It’s funny. I actually had an actual electro street kit for the longest time and I figured, oh, I’m never going to get to this thing, and I ended up selling it off. And then a few years later, you guys come up with the short kit in the, in the, the build, and that competition, just yeah, that, just that went away really quick, but still it’s like: oh man, you inspired terry. I should have kept the kit. So I ended up getting the shortcut and one of these years I’ll put it together, but it’d be nice to do modern equipment. This was all terry’s.

[00:50:26] Idea by the way the electro streak thing because of the shiny right really yeah.

[00:50:31] Yeah, it was terry who brought it to Ron’s attention that the shiny was really kind of similar in shape and size and weight. In fact it even looks like an electro streak. So yeah, terry turned us on to that. And then, next thing, and then it turned into tommy wanted.

[00:50:50] The shiny. We couldn’t find a shiny right, so tommy said he was going to build one. Then I should build one too, which I think pretty much was, because he wanted me to cut stuff, which I don’t even think. I did that for you, did I? Oh no, I did, yeah, you did, yeah. So dave cut his own. Dave is the one that cut his own because he wanted to get his done before everybody else, which he did like a summer build, but anyway. So because of terry, we did that build. Well, some people did, I didn’t, and started then also.

[00:51:20] Because of terry, I found another electro streak that was like an hour, not electric. I keep doing that. Another shiny that was like an hour away from me. Yeah, so, like I said, now I have brand new in the box. Yeah, so I don’t really need to build the electro streak anymore. You can. The only thing is:

[00:51:37] I think the shiny power set was kind of mild. Same setup, yeah, I mean the one that, the one that I have, it’s, it’s, yeah, that’s why it’s the same. Well, electro streak, you can kind of put your own stuff.

[00:51:48] In it. You can really hop it up, yeah, yeah and well, go ahead. I was just gonna say I didn’t realize, like the actual shiny ARF comes pre-assembled, like it has the servos and it has everything in it ready to go- the motor, the esc and all that, yeah, and the lights. And I opened the box up just to look at it and I was like: wait, there’s servos in this, oh, that’s so much easier. Wait, there’s a motor in this, oh, this is.

[00:52:11] So cool. I was not expecting that at all. Yeah, it was a. It was a nice surprise when you opened that box. Yeah, well, it was a nice surprise that terry found that for you from where he lives- poor terry.

[00:52:23] Just a hundred miles away from you. Yeah, me too. We say that all the time. Now you guys need to egg him to go to best. I need some help, I need him to bring him down to best. That’s october, that’s so.

[00:52:34] Far, well, not well, duh, you get on a plane. Well, that’s true. Wait a minute. You’re telling him the best is far, when they drove here from texas a thousand miles, yeah, well, that’s true, he can. He can make.

[00:52:48] It. We’re just. They know how far it is. This doesn’t seem like it’s a very long drive to me because I slept most of it. I feel like I’m three hours away from home. I’m gonna make up for this one tomorrow.

[00:53:00] So, if I can, I’m gonna have fitz talk about the maxi lift. I’m gonna switch gears real quick because he brought a plane and on the main line, that was fun. Oh yes, this is the seagull models maxi.

[00:53:11] Lift from legend hobby. This is an- I think it was- 88 inch high wing. It’s not a scale of anything, it’s just a high wing sport plane meant for about 35 cc engines. But what’s neat about this plane is it has a bomb bay. Cool on the bottom, servo actuated bomb bay and a glider tow hitch as well on it- nice, so you can tow gliders and carpet bomb your field with whatever you want. And so it’s a subject of a article in model aviation and a future issue, and we brought it here to join out for to get some.

[00:53:46] Pictures through courtesy of lee ray. This photography prowess, and for me, to main it, I hadn’t flown it yet, and so I just finished it, and so we, we brought it up. I, I bought some army- not really army man, just parachute, parachute people, figures, whatever- to shove in the shove in there, and so we took it up to the main flight line. I think it was on wednesday, right, yeah, yeah, and so it was. It’s a brand new plane, never flown. It only run the engine a bit to get it tuned, tuned in and broken in a little bit, and the fly is fantastic. It was really super easy plane to fly. It flies like a trainer, and so we flew.

[00:54:20] Around and I dropped the payload fortunately well I’m going to interject here real.

[00:54:31] Quick, because one thing that kind of screwed us up anyway was someone crashed, yes, I was going to say, and then they, I mean he crashed it was a jet. Oh my god, yeah, let’s, let’s jump on this real quick, because fitz is flying. This jet comes by, he loses his canopy. They say his wing disintegrated like he was doing a knife edge, so we see his canopy fly off, then the wing disappears and the jet just keeps on going down the runway and then they close their flight line and fitz is still flying. So they’re like trying to get fitz to hurry up. And he’s got the, he’s got the parachute, guys. He’s like: okay, I’m.

[00:55:00] Gonna drop them. Yeah, yeah. Well, it was kind of good that the flight line was clear so I was free to drop anything I wanted, right, so I could drop more debris. So I flipped the bomb bay door open and two out of three come out. I could sort of see the third one kind of dangling as it’s flying around.

[00:55:18] Wait for me. The joke. The thing was: fitz needed these photos. So we’re back in the rv, he’s writing his article, I’m editing photos and I send the pictures. He goes: oh look, you can see the third guy. I said: what are you talking about? And I didn’t even notice there’s a little hand sticking out. The last guy’s like. I didn’t jump yet he whipped out. It was great. So I don’t know if they’ll use it, but I hope that picture goes in the magazine. I can’t do it. I can’t do it, I’m stuck. I was like I’m

[00:55:44] Stuck. So I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that there is a giveaway going on for that plane, not the one I built, but from the company, from legend hobby. I think if you go to his website or go to, we’ve had some advertisements around on, I think, on yeah, ama legend hobby. Legend hobby rc roundtable, rc roundtable, facebook page and stuff you can go in. It’s free to enter and what it is. You visit various sites and the more sites you visit- that’s on the list- the more chances you have to win this aircraft. So you get the aircraft, the maxi lift and

[00:56:18] A 35 cc engine to go along with it. Nice, so you have to. I don’t know when you guys are going to produce this, but you have to the end of the month, end of may, to enter and you can win.

[00:56:30] Nice but I can vouch it’s a mighty fine aircraft yeah that’s cool it’s good at everything but.

[00:56:37] Dropping paratroopers apparently well actually I’ve been racking my brain for things to drop out of it.

[00:56:44] So it’s gone all over the place. So my first thought was: army men- of course, that’s just cool, the parachute man. So I bought some on amazon. I bought like a package of like 20 of them or something like that. And then I found these little space shuttle things that you put together- gliders that are really small and I want to drop out of it. Yes, I’ll probably do it in my home field, I’m gonna- I plan on doing a video of it as well for a youtube thing, and so I’ll probably put a bunch of these little gliders in it, drop it. I found some things that those kind of like firecracker things you throw in the ground. They pop snap. That was the first thing, by the way, that came to my mind, is it?

[00:57:19] Yeah, I bought a box from off of ebay of those things. Oh so we have a paid runway one thousand snap box. Oh yeah, I’m going to cover it. And I was talking to a friend. I have a friend who’s kind of devious so I always bounce ideas off of him because he’s not right. That’s the kind of friend to have. That one friend. He came up with the weirdest thing. He goes: hey, you can buy like a five pound ball of silly putty.

[00:57:46] They’re like silly putty- like what would I mean? Like a huge, just ball, and apparently if you drop it from a high enough height it just shatters when it hits the ground. Oh really, yes, I thought I did bounce. Yeah, you would think a bowels are just bold. No, apparently they just shatter. So I briefly thought about getting some silly putty, but it was expensive. When you buy like a 10 pound, it was quite pricey. So yeah, I’m constantly looking for ideas. I wanted gills used to make these foldable gliders. They were like slingshot gliders: you can fold over those.

[00:58:19] And I was thinking we need to pack some of those in there they can unfold somehow or something but.

[00:58:23] Apparently no longer available. All right, so, listeners, let’s start sending, sending those ideas in ideas. What shall fitz drop from his maxi lift? Yes, so, just so they know how big is the compartment like.

[00:58:35] How much they have to work with roughly. Brain measurement put you on the spot: six inches wide, I guess, by eight inches long, by maybe about three or four inches deep box- what’s like the size of a kleenex box? Yeah, a little bit smaller, yeah, but yeah, roughly, yeah, okay. So I’m looking for things, things to drop that won’t hurt people.

[00:59:01] Bouncy balls, bouncy balls. Oh no, I’m not cutting balls, but bouncy balls on fire. I didn’t get to finish flaming cotton balls. You guys ever played jarts when you were a kid, the ones that you outside the long darts, oh yeah, deadly. Find some of those the official game of darwin charles.

[00:59:22] Yeah I don’t know about that I played that when I was a kid but that was a lot of fun but dangerous.

[00:59:28] Yeah I think they’re banned now yeah well they’re different I think they have like big like.

[00:59:33] Tips on them now they don’t have they don’t have the knife that they don’t yeah it was a big yeah.

[00:59:38] Yeah that’d fit in there though it would well I don’t know a jart might be too big for that.

[00:59:44] I remember them being pretty size yeah they’re pretty big 3d print some lawn darts under the.

[00:59:49] Wing. Yeah, I thought about pretty printing some things. I poked around on thing averse or 3d printable little airplanes, yeah, knickknacks and whatever. So, whatever, I don’t know, there’s bomb looking.

[00:59:59] Things on there too little bombs so that was your first flying at the main flight line right.

[01:00:03] It was my first time flying- yeah, because I didn’t fly to the main flight line last year, so this is the first time ever. I had to ask them some dumb questions like where do I stand, where do I, who do I look at that kind of stuff. But they were real nice and helpful. They said, oh yeah, just pick a spot here and stand over here, that kind of stuff. So I’d be amiss not to give a shout.

[01:00:22] Out to the staff here. Yeah, because when we went up there with our planes I went to talk to the flight boss and I told him what we were, because that’s great, just take three lines, get to play fly together. They were very generous, so a big shout out to the triple tree aerodrome. Yeah, staff we had.

[01:00:39] Any incident. Volunteers greg and I, my friend greg, this thing with us. We went up to breakfast yesterday morning and we just sat on the table by ourselves and one of the volunteers just walked up, sat next to us to start talking to us today. Guys, how you doing what you doing, how you are you?

[01:00:53] Liking everything, just real, personable. Well, the owner of the place we were at the float flight line, I think our first or second day full day that we were awake, pulled up to you and started having a.

[01:01:08] Chat with you right there in the in the pan harness came up to you. Yeah, he came up. He’s like: well, how do you like the place and stuff. And I was like, well, it’s pretty cool, it’s first time here and stuff. And then he introduced himself and I was like, oh okay, yeah, I’m not with the big wigs. Yeah, it didn’t take us very long at all. Maybe he felt sorry for me because I was just sitting there watching somebody else, but I don’t know. Yeah, but yeah it was, it was a good conversation. I like the, the history behind this and there’s it’s just an amazing place to be. And what surprised me, because I asked him- I was like

[01:01:39] How many rc events do you do versus how many full-size events? Because obviously this is a full-scale runway and he said it’s actually about half and half: half full-scale airplanes and half rc events.

[01:01:52] So, and during the meeting they had on thursday night, the ama helped sponsor that. They were very generous about saying how much they’re passionate about rc being part of this facility.

[01:02:05] Because it is a stepping stone into full scale. Yeah, well, sure, yeah, yeah, I could see that I missed that meeting. I wish I was able to make it, but I wanted to. Well, big shout out to joyce hager, 53 years.

[01:02:19] With the ama 53, 53 years, and she, she’s retiring. She likely retiring, but she’s moving to a house not too far from here. So, okay, this will. She’ll still be coming here and hanging out. So I’ve been putting.

[01:02:34] A name with a face now, so she was one they were talking to at the main line. I think it was wednesday, maybe I remember what day it was, but they were talking about how long she was with the ama and how much of a help she’s been and how pretty much awesome she is and how much of a loss it’s going to be with her not being there anymore. 53 Years, it’s a long time, I mean. I don’t. I don’t know if you have

[01:02:55] Any friends who have been working at a job for over 30 years yeah you real well I guess if it’s.

[01:03:02] What you what you 30 I’m over 30 now years well you’re old too it’s impressive it’ll be 39 when I.

[01:03:11] Retire wow yeah not 52 though that’s amazing yeah but when you do something you love apparently and.

[01:03:18] It seems like she was very into what she was right she’s seen him come and see him go yeah.

[01:03:23] There’s been a lot of people in the, in the offices there, so, yeah, yeah, but they, they appreciate her, she loves us and terry her, her boyfriend. Yeah, he does. Pylon- did you see the pylon demo? He did.

[01:03:34] Yes, pylon racing. Yeah, I watched that. Oh, yeah, I heard it. Yeah, that was, that was quick, that was very fast, so I kind of reminded me. I should mention that there are. There were multiple seminars going on throughout the week here. They may not have been the best to advertise, but I guess they’re on the website and things like that. There’s one. We walked into one at the learning center on the Futaba. People were giving a seminar and the s bus and how to use it in different types of s. I actually didn’t know there were two different types of s buses, because a unidirectional and a bi-directional s bus.

[01:04:04] That they use were for sensors and stuff. I thought it was kind of neat. I think they had another one on getting into jet turbine flying. One on aerobatics starts with: how much money do you have? Yeah, do you have both your kidneys?

[01:04:20] So they do have a really nice learning center. It’s full of all kinds of neat stuff and I don’t know if you guys have seen it. Did you guys? We did not make it up. Oh, you gotta check it out if you can. It’s just a neat room. There’s a room just filled with airplanes on the walls and there’s a room with a bunch of simulators in there and there’s a bunch of chairs and stuff for and the screens and monitors, and so they can actually give presentations and stuff, and so they actually had several on. I had a few on my phone, but every time my alarm would go off. I was in the middle of something like, no, I can’t leave now I’m doing something, yeah, but that was. That’s a pretty neat. So it’s, it’s a really well.

[01:04:51] Rounded event here yeah just not just flying yeah I don’t know why I never thought about putting.

[01:04:59] A reminder on my phone to go do something, because there were so many times I, oh, I want to be up there by three o’clock to see this or whatever time, and then, oh, it’s already seven o’clock at night and like I have noticed being here as long as we have like time just like does not exist. Like you wake up, yeah, and then you go to bed. You wake up, it’s like what day is this exactly? Like you’re looking back.

[01:05:22] Trying to think what day something happened it just all goes together the day ends in y right.

[01:05:28] Yeah, it’s amazing. Oh, there’s some cool looking wings going up. Describe them: rainbowy, white and red on the other side. There you go, I’ll have one. Now you can hear them and now you can.

[01:05:44] Probably. Oh yeah, they’re definitely wings. Yeah, they’re coming this way, coming right forward. They launch from, yeah, right down there. They just hand launched them. Yeah, well, that’s looks like.

[01:05:54] The whole other area of the field there. This is normal for this time of night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think every night these guys come out. Yeah, we’re sorry. Yeah. One of our listeners emailed us and called these a gaggle. Right like he said, the late night gaggles happen. He said: buy an assassin, come join us for the.

[01:06:12] Late night assassin gaggle which that is pretty late we did not do well we attempted to.

[01:06:20] Lee, remember the one year best that somebody was flying the loudest, biggest night, flying at like four o’clock in the morning or something like this. Do you want me to continue the story? Because

[01:06:31] There’s a part to it. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Oh so we’re, we’re tenting on our end, yeah, we’re camping out, yeah. And so it was like two in the morning, but it was like that, except big plane over our tents, right over the tent. I get, I’m in, I’m in my pajamas, oh man, I’m barefoot. I walked down there and I the heck out of them. I was like, guys, we’re sleeping over here, you’re flying overheads, go to bed. And I was like, oh, you’re the crotchety old man. I was like, come on, two in the morning. No, it was it.

[01:07:02] Was oh god o’clock in the morning yeah it wasn’t like 11 o’clock midnight that we wouldn’t.

[01:07:07] Care, but nobody was awake. There’s like 24 hour flying here, like I mean, you can get up at four o’clock in the morning, oh yeah, and you’ll see something like not usually this loud, but you can look out and see a radian or something like that. I was just gonna say something like that, yeah, yeah.

[01:07:24] Plus they have the dark patrol I guess every morning well he missed all that too yeah I can go.

[01:07:29] For that as an alarm clock 5 30 6 o’clock okay I’ll get my butt going but right two in the.

[01:07:35] Morning. Yeah, I get it. Well, it’s what’s quiet hours supposed to be like: no gassers from 10 at night to eight in the morning, I think okay. So yeah, they stick to that. They actually have, like down there at the 3d line there was one night I heard a gasser late. Yeah, I’ve heard some gassers pretty early.

[01:07:56] Too. They had a party or something at 10 o’clock, was it last night? Oh no, I can think it rained out. Radix throw down was yesterday. Yeah, it didn’t get rained out, it was on. Okay, here we go far away. It was pretty cool. That reminds me. Did you guys camp on site or you’re in the hotel? No, we’re camped way. Oh, that’s right, you’re down by the 3d line, yeah, so yeah, I guess maybe a lot of people don’t know that this is a huge camping site. People camp rvs, really fancy stuff, tents, everything. There’s some hookups. There’s just lots of places to park somewhere, wherever you want.

[01:08:28] And so it’s a real neat place just to camp. There’s a streamed out at one end, like you mentioned, the pond. Here you can walk around, you can take your go-karts. Of course you need- you generally need- some personal transportation. Yes, yeah, absolutely, it’s a huge facility. Yeah, it’s very huge. Yeah, you see all kinds of stuff.

[01:08:44] I figured it out just today alone from the driving that we did- is about 30 miles on the golf cart. Wow, I mean it’s, it’s ridiculous, you, it’s just big. Well, I’m gonna say we have a golf cart, had a golf.

[01:08:58] Cart and it turned in three days half a tank of gas already gone oh my gosh yeah mine’s electric so it.

[01:09:06] Was nice that I didn’t have to worry about gasoline, but then I had to worry about charging it every night. Yeah, so are they like you can’t get it anymore. Is that why you had to turn it in, or yeah, they don’t?

[01:09:16] Offer them on saturdays. I don’t know what the reasoning arrangement is. Now they do offer shuttles, so they’ll continue to shuttle you down the road back and forth. Ouch, but yeah, we had to turn it in. Well, you’re in a good spot, though, because you’re not too far from the e-line. Yeah, and we have a vehicle, so if we need to go up, we can take my truck. That’s true, but that’s let’s. I was going to jump on that to have us all share, now that this is your podcast too, yeah, and we’ve done this before, so we’ve already had it, but now that we’re doing a new one, have a refresher course. What is some advice that you would give someone who hasn’t been to Joe Nall, which by

[01:09:51] The way you have to put Joe Nall on your bucket list if you’re listening well if I could jump in just.

[01:09:56] Real quick. You mentioned bucket list, so this was. This has been on our bucket list for a little while and now that we’ve been here, it’s it’s an annual event, like it’s no longer a bucket list.

[01:10:07] Something we have to come to every year. I agree, like I do not want to. I already told my wife that and she said that’s fine. Figure out when it is scheduled off at work and she’s giving me the freedom to go. Yeah, although I’d love to get her to come, but I don’t know if I can.

[01:10:24] I’m gonna get a truck driver to let me drive my truck in my trailer onto the bed and then have them drive me. So I want to be part of that. That’s number one. No, I mean first off, it’s a long drive from texas, so my fellow texans get a buddy to take that trip with you. But I’m gonna say this, and I know we didn’t follow this rule last time because we just flew here. But if you’re going to come first time, you got to get planes here because you just got to fly something. Yeah, I mean, I’m

[01:10:54] Right into a couple people said: oh yeah, I just came here to come watch. Dude, you gotta fly something, you gotta bring something. So you should have to like: ship it to your hotel. Yeah, buy a plane or two, ship it to your hotel, put together, bring it out here and come fly it. Wait, you can ship here. They.

[01:11:09] Will receive. Really, yeah, they’ll receive that. Yeah, because a lot of space hacker and car models and stuff they’re coming from overseas and they can crate, ship stuff here and they will receive it in their warehouse here. There you go in situ. That’s interesting, yeah. So we already mentioned it: golf cart, golf, personal transportation, and I have to mention there’s some really interesting personal transportations. Yes, you look around, you see all kinds of cool.

[01:11:34] Stuff people are driving many bikes with side trailers it’s not a car but yeah it’s just a.

[01:11:40] A third wheel and a platform and that guy was everywhere. I know we saw him all the time. Yeah, there’s a lot of good ideas that I’ve never thought of for transportation right here that are. It’s interesting to see, yeah, what people come up with. So what I in a different episode that we recorded earlier- unfortunately for- well, not unfortunately for us, fortunately for us- we had jeff arsenault and he was- I pretty much called him tour guide barbie because he met our camper guy. He told us exactly:

[01:12:11] What to expect what we need to do what we need to bring and he made it easy like very easy on us.

[01:12:16] Absolutely and we’ll give credit to jeff too he was the one who encouraged us to get an rv this year oh.

[01:12:22] Really, yeah, well, way to go, jeff. But like having somebody that’s been before is that’s a good thing if you can talk to somebody that’s been before. You’re now one of them, I know. So we will have like on our episode where it’s just us, tommy, talking about kind of our wrap up and all that, for we need to kind of make a list on what you need to do, okay, because I can’t remember everything now, because that’s the other thing. Like I have been so sleep deprived this week, like I just feel scrambled.

[01:12:56] But in a good way, because it’s so exciting. I mean, like how can you not be amped up with everything going around here? I agree,

[01:13:06] Sorry that guy playing with his motor was annoying as heck. Oh, I don’t know if y’all heard it, but, boy, that was just like making me twitch. There’s a discharge of death. You will fly no power. You will fly, no power. So, Tom, any advice?

[01:13:24] You’d give new people. Come to joe. No, I mean, yeah, bring a plane, even if you have to ship it here, even if it’s just a umx of some kind. Bring, like, if you’re a nitro guy like me. Really, the only place available to fly nitro is on the pond. Nitro is probably not going to fit in on the main line.

[01:13:46] Unless it’s interesting top that’s a good point because there’s really no place to fly nitro here.

[01:13:50] Unless it’s a speed on the speed circles, the control line. There’s a lot of nitro there, but nitro rc get yourself. If you, if you’ve got a stick or something like that and you’re really a die-hard nitro guy, do like I did: put it on floats or find a cub- a nitro cub- on floats, that’s, and it’s a great place to fly too. I really enjoyed flying off the pond with my stick, so that would be my first kind of set your expectations appropriately. Don’t don’t think you’re going to bring a 58 inch stick here with nitro, just fly it like.

[01:14:23] Everywhere you’re not probably going to be able to do that yeah bring electric because honestly.

[01:14:29] Like this e-line is like very laid back very there’s no very expensive airplanes here so you don’t feel.

[01:14:36] Bad if anything happens. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, bring a wing like a flying wing- if you’ve got a flying wing with lights at night and these guys you could- you could hear behind that. They’re having a lot of.

[01:14:48] Fun and that is a lot of fun yeah bring a plane that you can do combat and take Tom out yes.

[01:14:52] That’s your goal next year. Take me out, I’ve got plans. I’m developing plans for what I’m going to bring next year for combat. Bring lots of money- yeah, that’s the other thing, really, yes. Do you spend a lot of money? Yes, really, okay, I didn’t. I hardly spent any food was about all I bought. I bought a radio. That’ll do it. So that’s what Ron means. Bring money to buy stuff, yes, yeah. Well, in all fairness, there were

[01:15:20] Some pretty good discounts on all the stuff even from some major vendors but you don’t have to buy.

[01:15:24] Stuff to have a good time absolutely here you can you can bring your electric plane and fly it yeah.

[01:15:30] Have a good time but don’t be to the point where you want something and don’t have cash for it.

[01:15:35] That’s, that’s a downer to you. That’ll be bad. I didn’t, I didn’t. Yeah, I come here to- and I guess it depends. I didn’t come here to buy anything, I came here to fly. Well, I never go places to buy.

[01:15:47] Anything but then I find stuff yeah I didn’t come here to buy anything I brought money just in case I.

[01:15:53] Found something well true you never know there’s people selling stuff oh yeah I mean there’s a bunch.

[01:15:57] Of planes on the side of the road yeah oh yeah everywhere you look there’s something for.

[01:16:02] Sale I agree yeah but what about you guys what are your thoughts I’m buying stuff for no I’m like.

[01:16:11] I’m not like what you want to somebody who’s coming for the first time your recommendations.

[01:16:15] Well, because you have the benefit of experience over well, and yeah, I’m going to say we’ve had the benefit of both coming for a few days and coming from the final days. And I think what’s this? It hasn’t happened yet, it’s friday, but we thought this would last longer on saturday, like go through the night, but really kind of like seph, seph cut out early too. A lot of people leave midday saturday to head back home and like I’m not used to that we have an event in texas best, and I mean it’s saturday’s the heyday. People spend the night, saturday night because we’re flying at night.

[01:16:45] And everything. So it’s kind of weird for me to have people leaving on a saturday. So that’s, that’s something I’ll find out tomorrow on how quiet it’ll get here and is it worth staying through saturday because you guys are leaving before us. We’re leaving tomorrow, hopefully dark and early, yeah, and we’re not leaving until sunday because we thought we’d have some more time. Yeah, I mean, I was saturday, but I’m gonna say that too. If you have time to kill and you want to get some flying in, stay through saturday, because half this place is going to be gone. Yeah, that’s true, but we mentioned the golf cart. You got to have some time of transportation. Bring something to fly.

[01:17:18] There’s tons of electricity here, so you have a place to charge. Oddly enough, thursday it was kind of bad weather- it’s all rainy and stuff, but we had a good time. Yeah, we hung out with people and talked. So, bring a jacket, yes, okay. So didn’t expect it, but yes, yeah, bring a jacket, just throw it in there somewhere, because last year when I came, I didn’t- I didn’t bring even jeans and I just brought shorts. It was like in the 40s or something like that, but it’s been weird here. I mean, the temperature change has been pretty drastic, but having a jacket would.

[01:17:49] Be a mandatory thing bring a smile on your face because boys this is field of dreams.

[01:17:55] For rc. It really is. Laurie, that’s my wife. Yes, she said this is your disneyland and like, after I thought about it’s like I’m not really into vacations at disneyland and that sort of thing, but sure enough, this is my disneyland, it’s like I’m like in, like it’s like an rc mecca here and it’s everything I hoped it would be, and more, yeah, and the funny thing here is when you have an airplane.

[01:18:22] Strapped to the top of your golf cart going down the road nobody looks at you funny nobody it’s.

[01:18:26] Normal it is it’s like it’s more like why did I think of that well I the funny thing is that you.

[01:18:33] Said that is like we had plywood overcast split into two pieces in two different golf carts I saw that.

[01:18:37] Take it to the main line that was impressive yeah it’s it’s yeah it’s just pretty darn cool here.

[01:18:44] There must be an alarm for something you’re missing. If you, if you come and you want to watch- and I’m not trying to, I don’t know who I’m really talking to here- there were a lot of people here that I saw that really just wanted to sit and watch. They didn’t want to do a lot of flying. If they did, it was like one or two times, but they said they’re, they wanted to come and sit and watch. So bring chairs, yes, bring comfy chairs and comfy shoes, because during the noontime thing- which- but I liked it- I just don’t think I would do it every day, but the noontime demo was spectacular, some incredible.

[01:19:14] Pilots, young and old, but you want to sit there in a chair, get comfortable and watch, because it does tend to run for a long time? Yeah, but it is amazing and just the. I can’t do my. I’m showing my little cha-ching the. The money on that main flight line is wow, yeah, wow, it’s amazing. Break sunscreen too.

[01:19:35] Sorry, good point, random thought, okay. Well, I was thinking about when we were on the flight line. I think it was wednesday. There were no clouds most of that day and yeah, we I got a little burnt because I didn’t want to leave the flight line, I wanted to watch the show. But yeah, you want to put sunscreen on sunscreen. It would be a mandatory item, along with a jacket and a hat.

[01:20:00] And a hat yeah for guys like us fits advice for new people don’t know if I can add anything you.

[01:20:08] Guys pretty much covered it all I think I don’t think I can offer anything what about so this is.

[01:20:18] Completely off topic, which is par for the course for me. Yes, maidens at joe knoll, like I read somewhere that you’re not supposed to do that, but there were probably more maidens this weekend than I’ve ever seen. At any event, well, fitz said he maidened his. Did he? Did he really say that? I don’t know. I heard that he had flown it once. It could either confirm or deny, but like I mean think about it, like people who buy the, the horizon stuff here, obviously they’re going to bind it and fly it. Oh yeah, absolutely so.

[01:20:49] Like how do you how do you police that I don’t know what he does yeah well as we I had a conversation.

[01:20:59] With someone about this. So you’re not supposed to maiden anything at a sanctioned event. That’s the key that’s actually written. So you should not do that at a sanctioned event. But on the other hand, if you are a skilled pilot and you’re getting purchasing like a umx plane or something with safe and so forth right, and you’re purchasing it right from the manufacturers, like right down the street, you’ll probably be okay. In fact it was one guy bought, he goes. I just bought a plane that I already have because I wanted a second one. Why is that any different? I’m fighting, so I it’s a

[01:21:30] Slippery slope boys but yeah be careful be smart yeah does flying an airplane that you’ve flown many.

[01:21:38] Times on just hypothetically on gear and then you put it on floats and fly it here on floats the first.

[01:21:45] Time. Is that a maiden? That’s not really. It’s fun, man. I mean okay, see, look, you’re getting both sides. But I have to say, because who are we talking to? I was, you were your first time to fly on floats, right, yes, and you had a fun experience, right yeah? Was it entertaining? Absolutely okay, there you go. I mean, I mean, it’s you got to try somewhere, right, and why not do it in front of other people, like your buddy Tom, where he can just egg you on and I didn’t have to go out in the boat.

[01:22:10] There you go no I he was talking about his he’s had his stick for I don’t know I’ve had my stick for.

[01:22:15] Many, many years and he’s never been on floats. So I put an old pair of goldberg cub floats on it and flew it here for the first time on floats. So does that count as a maiden? Not really, but it’s an airplane, that’s. But it did it maiden. Well, I mean, it flew fine. Yeah, it flew great. Oh okay, yeah, I didn’t have any problems with it. That was like the fifth, sixth, seventh flight. That.

[01:22:39] He oh okay he landed a little hard and dunked it okay it was a wingtip you didn’t tell me how I.

[01:22:44] Thought it happened like right after oh no I’m sorry no I consider that more of a soft.

[01:22:49] Maiden soft maiden okay we’ll run with that okay well agree close we got passes motion yeah motion.

[01:22:57] Pass or yeah, that’s whatever it is. On a way off topic, by the way, I have to weigh in. I don’t remember who’s on what side, but on the battery is where the, the velcro, the soft side of the velcro, goes, okay.

[01:23:13] All right. Is that we’re doing? Battery is soft. I don’t remember if that’s the hook or the loop. I think that’s the loop, that’s the loop. So your loop is off. Loop on the battery: on the battery Tom I’m trying to think of is a soft fuzzy on the battery. I think. So, yeah, on mine. Yeah, as it should be. Yes, okay, you are all wrong. No, you are all. I couldn’t remember who it was. It was the weird one, or summer child terry and fits are wrong.

[01:23:43] And I don’t know what my answer was, which, by the way, I won. It’s like you go to the manufacturers and find out what they put on and the manufacturers put on the hook they do on the aircraft, they do you’re.

[01:23:52] Wrong. No, they’re wrong. No, I don’t want to hurt my hand when I pick up my battery. I want nice soft, fuzzy things on my fingers when I move my battery. But yeah, and I don’t know if it was you or terry- that.

[01:24:03] Said this, but this is like when we had we had this discussion in our podcast. Yeah, it’s like yeah, but if you have the hook on your battery and you put it in your car’s carpet or something, it’ll stay there. I’m like, so what? That’s just. That just happens to be the why would you put your battery on your car’s upholstery? It’s because he did okay, okay. So okay, fitz, your turn. This feels to me. I’m sorry this.

[01:24:23] Feels to me like the whole how do you put the toilet paper on the roll argument yeah you.

[01:24:29] Look at the patent yeah the patent says forward yes and what does the patent say about putting.

[01:24:34] Velcro on battery? Well, it depends, of course. The patent is opposite if you have a cat? Yes, it depends if you have a cat or not.

[01:24:45] So why do you say, why do you say we’re wrong? What evidence do you have fits? What else do I have? Yeah, you don’t, because it’s convenient. Okay, that’s how I accidentally did the first time. So I made everything match permission to treat this witness as hostile. Thank you wrong, all right. So yes, for the people who listen to RC Plane Lab, what did you have you already?

[01:25:11] Done this, I guess. No, no, like I haven’t. Like, honest to god, I haven’t never given it any thought which piece goes where. I just slap two pieces on there and make sure that the opposites and off.

[01:25:23] I go. But well, wait. Well, the first thing is: well, like, it is convenient, for you can actually hang the battery on things and the carpet on the walls and that kind of stuff. If you drop it on the ground, it’s easier to clean the hook than it is the loop. I’ve never hung my battery on a wall, oh no, my battery is sitting on my walls though, so are you never holding them? You don’t do it all the your batteries. I did it all the time back of my car had a carpet and I stick the charged batteries in the wall. The uncharged ones would go on the floor. It was a nice organizational thing, well, I guess.

[01:25:54] I can see that, but that’s still weird. I did an unscientific test on our poll. We did it on our facebook page. We win, we win. Yeah, you should. You could do your own, but I’m just saying. It’s soft and fuzzy.

[01:26:07] On the battery. Well, all my buddies are dropping off a bridge. I’m just gonna look and laugh at you. That was number one to go with the crowd. So he’s also an anderson power pole guy, so they’re awesome really. Well, not anymore I wean myself off of them, but I still have a high respect for them. Yes, and I use them in other projects. Low resistance- yes, real resistance connectors, a lot of power. They’re modular, low resistance. Jeff still uses them. Oh really, yeah, I saw that I was.

[01:26:38] The shape of your jib they’re. They’ve been called many things over the years. I’ve always called them light speed because that was the name of the. Yeah, there’s been different brands. Yeah, like yeah, power.

[01:26:49] Anderson power sermos with sermos, yeah, but it was funny because I’ve seen them. The ham radio guys love them because I’m used in ham radio stuff and I walked into a lab that was used by a nasa contractor and they were using those connectors. So nasa uses them, so they must be good enough for nasa. Good enough for them, yeah, yeah, but they’re- they’re kind of older now but I still like I have some oddball stuff I use them on. Still all right. So let’s get back to joe knoll.

[01:27:23] Joe knoll? Yeah, sorry, that was my fault. Where were? We took us off on something about things. Velcro, yeah, velcro. That’s not even joe knoll either, sorry, yeah, well, I was thinking about batteries, putting them in planes, because of joe knoll, and that’s what made me think of it. Okay, well, you do whatever.

[01:27:40] Works for you then, which is kind of where I’m at. Which is right most smart people do is put this. Now you had to go and do that. Yeah, they’re being magnanimous and you gotta go.

[01:27:50] Stab the knife in to each their own but you’re still wrong.

[01:27:56] Some, some people really appreciate being right or wrong and some people just don’t care, and I’m kind of in the second camp there. Yeah, you use bubble gum as long as the battery stays where I put it.

[01:28:07] I really don’t give it. Well, it’s like terry making fun of me, who I sent him a picture of. I went overcast and he goes gaff tape, because I use gaff tape to keep the wings on. I was like it works, just be quiet, it’s mine now. If you were here, you could do it your way exactly.

[01:28:24] So sorry you couldn’t make it, terry, but you definitely need to join us next time. So this is a little yes, there you go. It’s a little message. Yeah, listen to this when you sleep. Do you guys have any friends you want to give a shout out to, to tell them to come to joe knoll? Well, dave, he needs to make.

[01:28:40] It with us next year yeah well he knows he knows he needs to come I think it would be awesome to have.

[01:28:45] The six of us all sit down together. It would be fun. Yeah, with his new job, no leave or vacation time yet, so but next year I think he, yeah, he definitely needs to come as well as terry, yes, and then, yeah, like you said, it’d be fun to get all six of us, because more is always better, the more the merrier.

[01:29:07] Who’s gonna go flying now I got a radian night radian I go charge your battery and get up in the.

[01:29:11] Sky, we have to go pack. I was gonna say I might watch him fly. I’m all packed like pretty much without or. All I have to do is throw stuff in the in the topper. Well, I’m gonna get some. I guess I’ll break.

[01:29:23] Down the camp then and put that away and get the card on the trailer and all that stuff well thank.

[01:29:29] You. That’s awesome, but I’m gonna keep the card here, right? I’m kidding, of course I’m not, but that’s okay. How often do we get to sit here and hang out with these guys? Never, so this is the first. First time you would like to go pack up camp, as opposed to well, when we’re done, friends, okay, yeah, it’s.

[01:29:47] I mean, it’s getting kind of late. Yeah, it’s like we’re an hour and 30 minutes in now. Yes, we are. This is where this is where my arse starts twitching. Yeah, we get to the two hour mark and I’m like, guys, this is enough. I mean we could split this into two parts. Check you, guys in the

[01:30:07] Morning. See how I roast your arse out. No, we should be going early, but anyway. Well, fine, let’s end this now. Yes, sure, how do you want to end this now? What does this button do? Just kidding.

[01:30:35] I don’t know if you touch the top three they’re very long that’s the intro music the tool of the.

[01:30:45] Week button and then the outro music. Yeah, I wonder, maybe this is how we end. We got to tell this fancy setup you have, here we’re. I imagine that was really close, by the way. Oh yeah, heads up.

[01:31:00] Shield okay that was within 10 feet that night rating it looks like it’s about to go I think his.

[01:31:08] Radio’s I think his radio’s gone yeah oh my gosh yeah he’s down yeah I’m glad we didn’t stop yet.

[01:31:15] Excitement never stops here joe now have you guys could have seen that you guys are on the right side.

[01:31:20] Of the table I know we didn’t see that yeah at least we can see it coming you guys are in for.

[01:31:27] Surprise I’m not sure I’d want to see it coming actually I’m going to do a shout out to Ron because.

[01:31:31] This setup is really cool, man. This is nice audio. We don’t have this fancy stuff and we talked about you guys are able to do it with each other. We’re remote, so we’re using our own mics on youtube and stream yard. It’s rolled by this control panel. But yeah, we have, we have. We found this table in the shed. We were sitting on our chairs outside in the beautiful. I mean, it’s nice. Right now it’s like what? 71, That’s perfect, absolutely. And we probably could go on for another hour or two if we just wanted to keep hammering about rc, but velcro and velcro. But all good things must come to exactly.

[01:32:06] That’s true, but I wanted to thank you guys for meeting up with us, because we just kind of mentioned that and say, hey, let’s get together and do a recording. We’re going to share the same audio file for both of our podcasts and we’re glad to have met you in person. Yeah, we’re glad to have met a lot of people who’ve heard of us and it was a pleasure to let you guys fly plywood overcast and just have that fun at the main flight line. We appreciate it. Memories that I will definitely.

[01:32:32] Never forget for sure yeah thanks for letting us join in your podcast adventures oh sorry.

[01:32:39] And I failed to mention I got to fly twin timber. Oh yeah, finally the running joke was like we don’t have enough twin timbers. But my hey, what another shout out. Phil, tallman district vp, had a blast hanging out with him here at joe knoll. I’ve we’ve been. He’s a listener of our show but we’ve just become friends. He’s been giving terry goodies, like he finds these astro flight motors and stuff and ships into terry and I have another box for terry that phil brought me. But he talked with the horizon guy says what this crazy guy named lee- he didn’t get to fly a twin timber- can.

[01:33:12] You please like, appease him and shut him up. And sure enough we got to go out there and fly the twin timber, and thanks sean from horizon for letting me do that. So that’s my little last note there, that.

[01:33:22] Was awesome. No, they’re, I’ll be honest, the horizon guys that I have met and stuff. They’re all very cool guys down to earth, really good guys to hang out with, so and very professional, like even.

[01:33:34] When they’re like air quotes off the clock that you just very professional hey there’s.

[01:33:41] Another paraglider. There’s your powered parachute- yeah, or yeah, I always call it- and those are big. By the way, have you seen them up close? Like actually, what’s that? When we’re done here, we’ll go look, I think it’s like almost two meters on that. One of the biggest one they have is 2.6 Or 2.8 Meters, really.

[01:33:57] Well that’s pretty big yeah and I think that’s the big one and there’s a technique to launching them.

[01:34:02] They can be tricky to launch. Yeah, you really get it down. Yeah, but when you figure it out, it’s not bad to do as long as the wind is good. Yeah, yeah, I watched plenty of people do it incorrectly and I was able to launch dave’s for the first time successfully, oh nice, so I have that under my hat. Yeah, did you see the wing? Just the light go off on that one? Yeah, I did too. I was scared: wait, where’d it go? Yeah, you.

[01:34:28] Don’t want the light that goes off wrong switch it’s an invisibility all right yeah so if you’re a.

[01:34:37] Listener and you’ve been listening to us talk about the airplanes we’re looking at. There’s like I said, you have to see it, you have to be, you have to- yeah, you have to make a sorry.

[01:34:47] Make it happen. But yeah, so I agree. Okay, we’re good, we’re good, we’re good. Well, I’m gonna say good night, me too, good night, so long farewell. Thanks for listening, goodbye, peace out, peace out.

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