Ep 163: Tommy visits another hobby shop, and more!

[00:00:05] Hello, everyone, and welcome to the RC Plane Lab Podcast. I'm Ron. I'm Tom. And I'm Dave. Hey, everybody. It is early this week. Yeah, we haven't recorded on a Monday in a long time. Yeah, it is beyond early. But that's for good reasons. It is. We have a lot of fun coming up the remainder of the week. Lots to do. We will talk about in a little bit. But first, Tommy, welcome back. Hey, thanks. It's good to have you gracing us with your presence. Nobody to play footsie with.

[00:00:40] Yeah, it's good to be home. Seems as though this might be your last of the year.

[00:00:47] There's nothing else on the calendar at work for the rest of the year, and I'm not on the hook for anything next year. So hopefully that's the last work trip for a while anyway.

[00:00:58] Nice.

[00:00:59] I mean, next year there might be a one-week or a two-week pop-up here or there, but nothing

[00:01:04] Like this year.

[00:01:06] Nothing months and months long. Exactly. No schools, nothing like that. So nothing involving a passport. Yeah, that too. Good. Yep. Glad to hear. Yeah. Good to be home. So. I was in Tucson again. Tucson. Tucson, Arizona. Nice place. I like Tucson.

[00:01:23] Yeah.

[00:01:23] It's hot, but it's a dry heat.

[00:01:26] It's my oven.

[00:01:27] Did you go to any fields or any flying or anything? No, not this time. It was an exercise. There was no time in the schedule. It was 13 days straight of 12-hour days and 12-plus hour days. I think I had about eight hours of free time the whole time I was there, and I spent that on sleep. What a wimp. I mean, you had enough time to go somewhere. Yeah, I suppose.

[00:01:56] No, but anyway, good to have you back. Glad that it's behind us for the rest of the year. Knock on wood, knock on something, and we'll be all right.

[00:02:04] I'll be going to lots of events the rest of the year. As many as I can, anyway.

[00:02:09] Two, perhaps. I can think of two as about, maybe three. Maybe three, yeah. It depends what. We have to look at calendars and schedules and stuff. I don't remember when certain things are.

[00:02:20] Yeah.

[00:02:20] If we're going to hit Streeter again, I'd like to do that. Maybe. For sure. Depending on timing, at least for a day trip. There's something in Champaign coming up in September I wouldn't mind going to. I think we're clear for that weekend. That's the first weekend of September, right? I think. Sixth and seventh.

[00:02:37] Yeah. Should be okay. So, cool. Yeah.

[00:02:40] We'll see. So. So. So. So what'd I miss while I was gone?

[00:02:47] Well, if you didn't listen, you missed it. Oh, I didn't. We played around with… I never listen.

[00:02:53] We, well, I… Like when I, we sit down and record and then that's like I'm on to the next thing.

[00:02:58] Yeah.

[00:02:58] I know.

[00:02:59] But you didn't sit down and record with the last one. Well, that's true. I probably should have listened. You had like a long flight or something you could have killed time with, I guess. Yeah. Find out what we talked about at least.

[00:03:09] I mean that.

[00:03:10] You've got the guilt trip down. That hurts a lot.

[00:03:12] You've got the guilt trip down. Thank you. Doesn't even do his research to keep up with us.

[00:03:16] I know. Right? Oh, what'd you guys talk about? Well, listen. That's pretty much because I hate both of you. So, there. You what? Did you say what I think you said? You say hate?

[00:03:27] Yeah. I was just teasing.

[00:03:28] Wow.

[00:03:31] No wonder he's gone all the time.

[00:03:32] I know. I'm starting to think that there is no real trips. Maybe he's not even… Yeah. I'm just hanging out at home. He's just sitting at home.

[00:03:39] Where he's going to start driving past his place.

[00:03:40] I know. Oh, of course, in the garage. Can't tell I'm here. Mm-hmm. See? Hey, they're on to me. Anyway. Anyway. So, Dave has lost an aquarium.

[00:03:50] Oh, dear. Oh, yeah. It's been a wonderful, wonderful week. And we're not talking about like the little, high school aquarium you had like, when you were in high school. Why does it have to be small just because you're in high school? Well, that's what I think of. Like whenever…

[00:04:05] Like when I was in high school, I had a 55-gallon tank. Really?

[00:04:08] Yeah.

[00:04:09] Oh. Okay.

[00:04:10] So, that's… Like when I was in high school, I had one of the little bowls you got like at the state fair. That was what I…

[00:04:15] With a goldfish or beta? Or whatever. Or what's the… Is that what they are? The beta? The flowing here? Yeah.

[00:04:20] The flowing ones are the beta.

[00:04:22] Yes to all.

[00:04:23] That's what I imagine when I hear aquarium. Not what Dave's talking about. No. Mine's 75 gallons of salt water.

[00:04:30] Not anymore. Not anymore.

[00:04:32] Well, do tell. So, I did a water change on it Tuesday night last week. Normal procedure. Everything's fine. I come home from work Wednesday to go into our workroom after dinner and I hear my pumps running really loud. And I look at the aquarium and it's half empty. Or is it half full? Oh, it's definitely half empty when you're walking on it.

[00:05:00] Yeah. When you're walking on the carpet and water is squishing up between your toes. Salt water. Ooh.

[00:05:06] Yeah. So, it's… I had resealed this tank about six months ago because it's kind of an elderly tank. I had it since 2006. And it started leaking about six months ago. I emptied it, resealed it, and everything was fine, dandy. And I've resealed tanks before. It's not a big deal. So, obviously, you didn't do a good job this time. Apparently. So, that's it. I'm done. Make it go away. So, I ran across town real quick and was lucky they had another 75-gallon aquarium in stock.

[00:05:38] I bought that, ran home, and then I look at my stand. And my stand is just unsafe at this point.

[00:05:46] Destroyed. Yeah.

[00:05:47] How particle board works with water.

[00:05:49] Oh, yes. Yeah. So, the particle board and chip board. Swollen and… Yeah. Not very strong.

[00:05:54] And it's had some water damage over the years. I mean,. Sure. Water. Water. Just is going to get places. I'm going to spill it when I'm filling it.

[00:06:04] Yeah.

[00:06:04] For sure. So, yeah. The stand was just not safe to put the brand-new aquarium on. So, I had to order one for my Amazon. 75 gallons times roughly eight pounds a gallon. Yeah. Saltwater's heavier than that. A lot of weight.

[00:06:17] Exactly.

[00:06:17] That's what I was thinking. And there's about 100 pounds of rock I have in it. Oh, dear.

[00:06:21] Yeah. So, 750 pounds. Let's just say that. Yeah. That's… Yeah.

[00:06:25] We don't want that crashing to the floor in the middle of the night.

[00:06:28] I can imagine that would probably wake somebody up if that happened.

[00:06:31] I would hope. So, I popped on the old Amazon and ordered a new stand. And now we're waiting. Yeah. My little fishy buddies, they're living in a 20-gallon tub on the floor.

[00:06:43] So, I have to be honest. I skimmed. It was either a text or maybe you put it on the Discord. But I was skimming through the comment or through, reading it. And I could have swore, at least in my head, that your fish were living in the tub, like your bathtub. But I did that with goldfish one time before. So, then my mind goes, well, okay. I'm pretty sure Dave has a bathroom. And I don't remember seeing a tub in there when we were working in the ceiling,.

[00:07:13] But that's where my mind went.

[00:07:15] Yeah, the front bathroom has a tub in it. Ah, okay.

[00:07:19] Not with fish, though.

[00:07:20] Not with fish. There's no fish currently in the tub. Yeah. So, hopefully they're going to survive another couple days. How many fish are in there? I only had four fish. A bunch of crabs and snails. And Dave has crabs. Yeah, I knew that was coming.

[00:07:39] Sorry.

[00:07:39] I had them for a long time. They're scarlet reef crabs. Does that help?

[00:07:45] Not at all. So, they're red crabs. Interesting.

[00:07:48] So, yeah, I've got a few crabs, a few snails. I caught a snail trying to escape the other night. So, I'm using the glass covers from the regular aquarium. And they're just sitting on top of this tub. But the little flappy parts still work. You open it up to feed them and whatever. And I was in my room cleaning some stuff. Because that's all I've been doing for a week is cleaning things.

[00:08:11] I'm sure. 30 plus gallons of salt water. I imagine that will take some time to clean.

[00:08:18] Out of the corner of my eye, I see the lid lifting up. And I go over there and pull the lid open. There's a snail just. He's escaping. Climbing the side of the. Pushing the glass open. It's like, where are you going, you little dork? So, I. Strong. Oh, there's like some bulldozers. Strong like snail. Nice. So, hopefully we get all this resolved in the next couple days. Because I really want my guys back in the aquarium where it's nice and safe.

[00:08:45] I've had a couple of them for quite a long time.

[00:08:48] Sure.

[00:08:48] Yeah. You get kind of attached to them.

[00:08:50] Yeah, they're pets. I get it. So, that's partially why we're recording on a Monday. Partially. Partially. Because we don't know when he's going to get a stand. Yeah, the stand didn't come today. So, we're recording today. Otherwise, we're going to record tomorrow. Because we've got stuff going on. What kind of stuff? Fun stuff? I don't know. Did you want to talk about that now? Or is that. Are we done with the.

[00:09:12] I mean, I just want to make sure we hit stuff. Whatever order we have. I was going to try and stay in order of what.

[00:09:18] Well, what's next?

[00:09:19] We did. So, I don't forget things.

[00:09:21] We can talk about my trip to Bettendorf.

[00:09:23] You went to Iowa.

[00:09:24] Yeah. So, this was. Gosh. Three weeks now?

[00:09:29] And this is RC related, by the way.

[00:09:31] Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[00:09:32] We're back to this.

[00:09:33] So, whenever that was. It was right before I left for the trip. So, you guys recorded without me. Because I was gone.

[00:09:42] Yeah.

[00:09:43] Not because I was home. And like not.

[00:09:45] That's what you're saying. I get it. Gone.

[00:09:48] Sure you were. Air quotes. Yes. Gone. So, anyway. Yeah. Bettendorf, Iowa. Lori and I went there for a race. A running event that we. We've been to this one for. Off and on for the last 10 to 12 years. I guess it is. We've been running now. So, this was our fifth time there. And we stay kind of almost in the same place every time. And the expo. Like the day before the race. This is in the same place every time. And there's this. Like right across the street.

[00:10:17] I forget the name of the street. I think it's Brady. Right across the street from the expo building is a hobby shop. Like an old timey corner hobby shop. It has like two or three store. Three stories. Wow. Plus a basement. And I've always said, hey, I would like to stop there on one of these days. We've never done it. we've been too busy or whatever. We have to leave right after the race or whatever. Well, this time we had time. And so, I stopped in.

[00:10:45] And boy, am I glad I did.

[00:10:47] Really?

[00:10:47] It is like, so like I don't know how many people have actually been to a brick and mortar hobby shop that listened to the show because they're kind of, I mean, they're getting more rare than, than common like they used to be. But they have a smell to them, especially the older ones. Like when you walk in, they have a peculiar. And I don't know what it is. I don't either.

[00:11:09] I don't know if it's the balsa or if it's the old building or if it's just a combination of mold from the old building.

[00:11:15] It could be.

[00:11:16] But they all.

[00:11:17] You say mold from the old building? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they have that.

[00:11:21] The shop I worked in? Very safe. Well, but I mean, they have that sort of stale old building smell plus.

[00:11:27] You're not building this up very much, by the way.

[00:11:30] No, it's a good.

[00:11:31] It's a stale old building smell does not make me want to go somewhere.

[00:11:35] Well, it does me because I'm into nostalgia, right? So the smell brings back a lot of memories. It's not a bad smell. It's just a unique.

[00:11:43] Stale does not sound appetizing to me. That sounds like a negative term to describe it.

[00:11:48] It's like old cars have a smell to them.

[00:11:50] Yeah.

[00:11:51] Like if you get into like even you're the Explorer or whatever that thing is that's parked on the side of the house.

[00:11:57] Expedition? Yeah.

[00:11:58] Yeah, that thing. It has a smell, right? It's not a, it's not a, it's just a smell. It's not a bad smell. It's not a good smell, but it's an old car kind of a smell, right?

[00:12:06] What are you telling me? Like what are you trying to say?

[00:12:08] I'm just saying it has a smell. Anyway, anybody who's familiar with the smell knows what I'm talking about. So you walk in and there's a counter like an old style hobby shop. And then, it's a U-shaped counter that kind of inhabits the whole first floor. And then on the outside of that, the walkway is around and then it's surrounded by pegboard with like all kinds of parts and stuff like that on the walls.

[00:12:33] And then at the, kind of the back of that is, there's kits, there's ARFs, there's new stuff, there's old stuff, there's, there's parts like hanging everywhere. Awesome. It's like not quite Brian's, like it's definitely more organized than Brian's because there's probably not as much stuff in there as there is Brian's. And five floors. Say again?

[00:12:54] And five floors.

[00:12:56] Well, four if you count the basement. It's three stories plus a basement.

[00:12:59] Oh, I thought you said three or four. Anyway, my bad.

[00:13:03] So, yeah. Anyway, that's the, and then, behind the counter is the register. And I got to talking to the, to the two folks that were in there working. And it's a brother and sister who have, that told me that this hobby shop has been in this location owned by the same family for 70, seven zero years. Wow.

[00:13:26] That's kind of cool.

[00:13:27] That's very cool. I think that's very cool. Like, cause that sort of thing is just, is not the norm like it used to be.

[00:13:33] So, does that take you back to 1954? Here it comes. Is that, did I do it right?

[00:13:39] I'm just waiting for the old man.

[00:13:41] Oh, I wasn't even trying that. No, I'm just saying that's a long time for.

[00:13:44] Yeah, a long time.

[00:13:44] For a business to be open and especially.

[00:13:46] For a traditional.

[00:13:47] Yeah.

[00:13:48] And, and they didn't just sell model airplanes. they had plastic models there and they had trains. They were huge into trains.

[00:13:54] So, do you remember when that opened then?

[00:13:56] There it is. There it is. so anyway. He walked around for grand opening. Here we go.

[00:14:03] He drove there.

[00:14:05] I rode there in my horse and buggy. Parked his horse out front. Oh. but anyway, they, so all the new stuff, and I say new stuff because there's like another, I guess it's two stories plus a basement. So, it's three levels. Upstairs is like the consignment floor. and I say floor because it's the entire second floor. It's all consignment stuff.

[00:14:28] Now, granted, most of it was trains, which is actually kind of cool also because there was lots and lots and lots of different scales. there was the small end scale, I think. And then HO, and then they went to HO, and then they had big stuff in there too. Pretty cool stuff to just, even just to look at. but then a small kind of area off to the front of that, what would be the second floor, I guess, was the RC airplane swap area.

[00:14:54] And then you go to the basement and it, like a huge model train, like layout. I don't know. I think I didn't, I didn't ask about it cause I'm kind of not into trains, but I imagine it's probably like a club sort of a situation maybe, but huge, like the entire basement, huge train layout with like, there were some folks down there running trains and stuff. It was pretty cool.

[00:15:16] Do what size?

[00:15:17] HO. HO. Yeah, they were HO.

[00:15:19] It's like the best scale for some reason, I think.

[00:15:22] Probably the most popular because it's, convenient size. You can get a lot of.

[00:15:26] And fairly detailed too on things. Oh yeah.. Which, off topic, but do they have pricing on stuff there? Have you seen how expensive some of that stuff has gotten?

[00:15:34] I didn't look at the train stuff, no.

[00:15:36] Oh my gosh. Really? Yeah. I saw some, I'm trying to think, I don't remember what engine it was. But there was an HO scale engine, 600 and some odd dollars. Like I remember when they used to be like 75 bucks and I thought that was expensive.

[00:15:48] I mean. Brass engines have been that expensive forever.

[00:15:52] Yeah. And they've added all the DCC and the camp control stuff and all the sound.

[00:15:57] I have been out of it. Yeah.

[00:15:59] Sound stuff's pretty cool actually.

[00:16:01] Yeah.

[00:16:02] At any rate, a really, really neat place. I had their card here. I forgot the name of the place already, but,. Aye. Well, I wasn't prepared to talk about it, but it's in Bentendorf, Iowa. It's right downtown.. Owned by a brother and sister that it, it's shopsmen in the family for, well, 70 years. 70 years. At that location even.

[00:16:24] Yeah. That's cool.

[00:16:25] Yeah. So.

[00:16:26] How far of a drive is that from here?

[00:16:28] . It's about two and a half hours from, from us. Yeah. I was going to say it's just right across the river. Yeah. It's doable. I mean, in a day, but it would be a long trip, but. Not, not quite, the used stuff was not quite as big as Brian's, but, nice selection of stuff there. They had a brand new in the box, Electro Streak. Oh, really? The composite version. Yeah. Arf. which I almost bought.

[00:16:50] I was really, really close, but then I found something even cooler.

[00:16:54] Okay.

[00:16:55] So, I don't know if, how many of you guys, Dave will probably remember, but I can't remember who made it, but it looks like an easel, but it has, it folds out into kind of an A shape and it has a, a bottom shelf that folds down and locks in. And then at the top, there's another tray that kind of hinges out to the side and then it has two big stands that sort of, it's all, it looks like it's handmade really, but it's very, very well done.

[00:17:20] So this is an airplane stand? It's an airplane stand.

[00:17:22] Yeah. I was getting to that.

[00:17:23] Oh, sorry.

[00:17:23] But it's, I remember kind of seeing one of those back in the day, but I can't remember.

[00:17:28] I mean, I haven't seen one of these things for quite a few years, actually. there's a lot of good stands on the market. I'm not trying to take away from, from them, but these, me, I like nostalgia. And I remember these, seeing these things when I was younger and thinking, man, I wish, I wish I had one. Cause it's very, very sturdy. Like you've seen it, when it's folded out and you've got the, the, uprights, thank you kind of locked in place.

[00:17:55] I mean, it, it will hold a heavy airplane. I mean, this thing is like when it's all folded up, I don't know how much it weighs, probably 40 ish pounds. that is heavy, but it is. Yeah. It's, it's great for having in the basement and putting an airplane on, to work on cause it's got the, then you have your tools right there and stuff. so I bought that, paid $75 for it, which I thought was a steal.

[00:18:17] Cause I remember them being way more expensive than that way back then,? and then I bought a case for my transmitter cause my ix14 came with a phone transmitter case, but they had a, somebody was selling their JR case, dual transmitter case.

[00:18:34] Yeah.

[00:18:35] That I, that I went ahead and bought. The nice ones.

[00:18:37] Mm-hmm.

[00:18:37] Yeah. So.

[00:18:39] That's awesome.

[00:18:39] Yeah. Awesome place. man, I wish I could remember the name of the place off the top of my head. I wonder if I got their card here. I gave you one.

[00:18:47] You did not.

[00:18:48] You showed it to me. I did too. At any rate, awesome place.

[00:18:52] .

[00:18:53] Look it up. I'm going to, yeah, I was just going to say, I'll look it up.

[00:18:55] Talk amongst yourselves while I do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Show prep.

[00:19:01] I tell you.

[00:19:02] I know. Oh, I didn't know I was going to talk about it. Sorry. Really? I didn't know I was going to talk about it.

[00:19:06] Well.

[00:19:08] Well, it's been like three weeks.

[00:19:10] I forgot. It's been a long time since I've got around to flying. It's just anything. Yeah. I'm getting there. I know. That's been so hot. That's part of it.

[00:19:21] It's been actually the last couple of days have been finally cooled off, but the wind has been ridiculous.

[00:19:27] At least where I was, I guess. Yeah.

[00:19:30] Apparently Dave didn't say anything.

[00:19:32] Or Dave didn't have anything. Oh, for heaven. Any.

[00:19:36] Where is it? It's in Bettendorf, Iowa. Bettendorf, Iowa. Yeah. Can you just. Right across the street from.

[00:19:44] Can you just Google Bettendorf, Iowa. I did. I did. It didn't come up. Hobby shop.

[00:19:48] I did. It didn't come up. Wow. Okay. Did this really happen or were you dreaming? No, it really happened.

[00:19:54] I promise.

[00:19:55] I think when it was imagination. It is not a figment of my imagination. I woke up and all of a sudden. Okay. The silent air.

[00:20:05] There is thunder. Anyway.

[00:20:07] That's not there.

[00:20:09] More. I want to say. More places. Oh, it was a.

[00:20:12] It was a. It's an art place too. Like, so the. The floor. The major art and hobby center. That's the one. Yeah. Major art and hobby. The main floor is divided kind of in two. Like, I would say 70, 30. Like, so 70% of the main floor is like RC or hobby. And then the other 30% is like an art supply store and also a framing place. Like a picture framing.

[00:20:37] So I'm not going to lie. I did bring up the photo of the building. And that is not a building that I would have thought to go in as a hobby shop. Well, it says hobby shop on the side. Oh, does it?

[00:20:49] Yeah. Major art and hobby. I believe it's painted on the side of the building.

[00:20:52] Well, it's painted on the front too. Major art and hobby. And hobby. But art would not. Or would make me think it's more of like a. Art hobby place. Except there's like.

[00:21:02] RC stuff. Like pro line. Like. Oh, okay. In the front windows.

[00:21:07] Oh, okay.

[00:21:07] So.

[00:21:09] Well, I'm glad you stopped there.

[00:21:10] That's interesting. And I will go there every time Lori and I go to this race from now on. And I may make a trip there once in a while. It was that cool.

[00:21:18] Yeah. It's only a couple hours.

[00:21:19] A couple hours of Brian's. Why not? Yep.

[00:21:21] Yeah. Really. Which we got to go up there again sometime soon. I know. Because it's been way too long. No, I agree.

[00:21:25] So if you're ever in Bentendorf, Iowa. Major art and hobby. Stop by and see those two. 70 years. 70 years. Been in the family. At that location. In the same building. Which I thought was pretty amazing. Yeah. That's cool.

[00:21:41] Yeah.

[00:21:42] So that's my Bentendorf, Iowa story.

[00:21:44] Nice. Yeah.

[00:21:46] What else? Dave, you flew.

[00:21:48] Yeah. Finally got some time to fly Sunday. Just sick of water.

[00:21:54] Did you fly any since the last time you guys recorded without me? No. Oh, okay. That's disappointing.

[00:22:01] The last time I flew was the last time I recorded here, playing around with the little GPS module thingy. Oh, yeah.

[00:22:07] Oh, yeah. That's what we talked about last time. GPS module.

[00:22:10] Have you flown with it yet? No.

[00:22:13] Oh. Just here. Here we have. Oh. We threw it on the slow ultra stick and played around with it.

[00:22:19] How does it work?

[00:22:20] So for what it transmits, not to go off topic and go back to our last show that you didn't listen to, but for what it transmits, it transmits and works pretty much the exact same way. Okay. Well, stop talking about it. I'll go listen. Well, I'm mid-sentence. I don't want to waste any time. It pretty much works the exact same way as the one from Horizon.

[00:22:39] Oh, okay. And standalone. But it's $35 and it's standalone. You don't want to plug it into anything. So to move it from airplane to airplane, it's literally rip it off the Velcro, slap it on the Velcro. So it has a rechargeable battery, I take it? Like a watch battery? It's supposed to run for like five hours. When I got it, it took like 20 minutes to charge it. On my computer, my computer doesn't charge fast. Right. That's cool.

[00:23:02] Yeah. It's just got like a cell phone port on it, like a USB. Actually, was that mini? USB-C. USB-C. Okay. Nice. Yeah, so that's a newer USB one too.

[00:23:09] Cool. Seems like it works really well, especially for the price. The only thing that drives me nuts, other than the fact that it doesn't work on my phone. It's because Dave's phone is from 1942. Yeah. I've got the Android level higher than what it says it's supposed to require and it still won't, my phone won't want to record, download it. But.

[00:23:31] Mine probably won't either. I have an old Android also.

[00:23:34] What's yours?

[00:23:35] It's a Samsung something.

[00:23:39] It's a Galaxy, but what number? I don't know.

[00:23:42] Oh, my gosh. What? Like, it works, so why replace it? Okay. You're right. Same thing.

[00:23:49] Anyway, my gripe is it shows feet per second instead of miles or kilometers per hour. So, you have to do math because I don't know, I don't know what 400 foot per minute is or whatever. Yeah.

[00:24:02] We did figure out, I think, was it like 25 miles an hour was pegged on the slow ultra stick? Just shy of 30. Just shy of 30. Yeah.

[00:24:11] So, a speed demon.

[00:24:12] That was full throttle.

[00:24:14] Going downhill.

[00:24:16] Downwind, downhill, down everything. Down, down everything. Speaking of slow ultra sticks, is it okay to go ahead and go to that route? You can go wherever you want. Well, I do want to talk about, well, that's talking about your flight. Well, I want to talk about the football plane. We're getting there.

[00:24:28] Okay.

[00:24:29] We're just talking about slow ultra sticks right now.

[00:24:30] Okay, I'm sorry. I thought we'd go ahead of that. Slow ultra stick. Way to go.

[00:24:32] Yeah. That's okay.

[00:24:33] We do tangents very well. Yeah, that's true. We do it a lot.

[00:24:38] Over the weekend, I had my slow ultra stick out. Made one flight with it. Everything was fine. knocked it around. It was a little breezy. And, mine only has one ASX servo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because I got the dual servo set up and never reprogrammed the receiver. So, it only has one servo.

[00:24:55] So, he has AS3X just on one aileron. One aileron, yeah.

[00:24:58] Yes, AS3X.5.

[00:25:02] AS2.5X.

[00:25:03] There you go. So, anyway, bouncing around in the wind, it's not bad. And the wind wasn't awful. Just enough to bang it around. I can't. I'm sorry.

[00:25:11] Yeah, I know the difference. The difference in wind on where we were is just nuts.

[00:25:14] Yeah.

[00:25:15] Because this is the same day. Sunday, right?

[00:25:16] Sunday.

[00:25:18] Yeah. Oh, God. It was yesterday.

[00:25:20] Flew it. Landed it. No problem. Went to put a battery in it to fly it again. I'm sitting on the stand. So, I put it down on the ground after putting my battery in it. Put it on the nose in the mains and then just drop the tail. Tail just falls off.

[00:25:35] That's not supposed to happen.

[00:25:38] It snapped the white connector that holds the tail to the main boom.

[00:25:44] Good thing it happened then.

[00:25:45] I am so happy it happened then instead of like 30 seconds into flight.

[00:25:49] Although, that would have been spectacular.

[00:25:51] It goes so slow. It would probably just be its own parachute and fall right out of the sky and have no problem. It's like, oh, it's falling down from 100 feet. Let me walk out there and just grab it because it's going so slow.

[00:26:02] That's true. Regardless, I'm really happy it broke on the ground.

[00:26:06] Yeah.

[00:26:07] And I saw a long horizontal crack in it. if you bend it back into place, there was cracks in it. It's like, hmm, let's look at Daniels. Now, granted, mine has only got five flights on it. I record all my flights. So, it has five flights. Pull up Daniels, which is a little bit older. It's got a few more flights on it. He's got a long horizontal crack both sides on his.

[00:26:30] On his as well. Hmm. So. And yours and his both are relatively newer, right?

[00:26:37] Yeah. I got mine in Toledo and he got his just before that.

[00:26:41] Well, just because you got it in Toledo doesn't necessarily mean it's newer.

[00:26:44] Where did you buy that in Toledo? From that same? From the vendor that had the damaged boxes. Yeah. So, those are ones. That's probably an older one. Yeah. Those are ones that couldn't be sold new.

[00:26:54] Yeah.

[00:26:55] So, they're returns or. PSOs. Damaged box or something like that.

[00:27:00] Yeah.

[00:27:00] They were just.

[00:27:01] It was just a damaged box. The product itself was absolutely perfect. There was nothing wrong with it.

[00:27:05] Yeah. So, the connector on yours is white. White. And the one on yours is not white. Was white. Oh, you remember. Oh, that's right.

[00:27:14] He found a tree. That's right. I crashed mine into a tree because of Piper's, who I'm going to blame it on. And, well, because she wanted to follow it. And she's like, oh. Piper wasn't flying it. No. But I still can blame her, right? No. No. Fine. Whatever. But anyway. No. So, when it came out of the tree, it did the same thing. Cracked back there.

[00:27:33] I can see why that would have broken. Yeah.

[00:27:36] It landed on the tail. I mean, it fell out backwards. And so, I ordered the replacement for it quite a while ago. And I think the one I got was like version two or upgraded version or something. And it's black.

[00:27:50] So, hopefully the replacements I get will be the V2s.

[00:27:53] I don't know if it's different plastic or different material or what. But, it should be. Like I said, I would expect what you ordered.

[00:28:01] I would really like to find a piece of square carbon tube.

[00:28:04] I was going to say inside it. Right inside. Yeah. I thought about that, too.

[00:28:08] I was going to say, is there any way to reinforce that carbon tube? Yeah. I'm hoping. I haven't pulled it apart. But, I'm hoping I can find some carbon tube that will fit Gorilla Strong.

[00:28:19] That's one thing that, like I get it. They shortened it up because of shipping boxes and all that stuff. But, it would have been nice to have that one piece of aluminum be long.

[00:28:28] That's the other option is find myself one long aluminum tube and just junk the factory one.

[00:28:33] Yeah. You get that and you drill, what, probably 10 holes in it just based on where the stuff is.

[00:28:38] A lot of it's not even drilled through. It's just screw clamped.

[00:28:40] Oh, yeah. That's true.

[00:28:42] Like battery holder and all that stuff.

[00:28:44] Yeah.

[00:28:44] Yeah. So, it depends on what goes on. If I can't find a piece of carbon to put in there, I'll probably just scrap the entire thing and make my own.

[00:28:52] For, like, three bucks at Lowe's or Menard's or something. I mean.

[00:28:55] Yeah. I'll have to order it. I'm sure it's all metric. So, it's going to have to order it from overseas.

[00:28:59] Yeah.

[00:29:01] Regardless, public service announcement. Please check your UltraStick connectors. Slow UltraStick. Slow UltraSticks. Yeah. The foamy. Not the micro. The 1.2 meter.

[00:29:12] The micro is not out yet. Right? I don't think it's shipping yet. I don't know. I don't either.

[00:29:20] Our listeners will correct us.

[00:29:22] Check your sticks.

[00:29:23] Yeah. Check your sticks.

[00:29:25] Make sure they're not cracked.

[00:29:26] Yeah. You don't want your stick to be cracked. Yeah.

[00:29:29] Daniel's was actually cracking from hole to hole. There was three screws in there. And it was cracking from each. I can't help it.

[00:29:37] All the way straight through each of them. Ron's over there snorting.

[00:29:41] No, I'm good. Sorry. It's like working with kindergartners.

[00:29:44] I can't help it.

[00:29:46] Well, you got to watch it. Anyway. Yeah. So, that's good to know. Like, I bet you'll get a black one because that's the updated material.

[00:29:57] Hopefully. Okay.

[00:30:00] So, tell us about your goblin. This is what I'm really excited to hear.

[00:30:05] Yeah. I do recall saying, Dave, when you fly that, call me. I want to be there. Okay.

[00:30:09] You guys weren't around. Did that? Well, I wasn't here. I knew I wasn't here.

[00:30:13] I knew you guys were going over there. Oh. Oh, this was, yeah, yesterday.

[00:30:16] It was just yesterday. I knew you guys would be doing that because of the jet flight coming. I thought you were probably going to get some practice flights in the last weekend before.

[00:30:24] Way too windy. I'd like to have.

[00:30:26] He thought about it, but then he thought better of it.

[00:30:29] Yeah. Which was probably the best call. Probably. Anyway. I didn't call anybody. Daniel and I went out. We took River. River was a lot of help, by the way. Okay. Yeah. The goblin. So, I've been a little apprehensive about this airplane. Everybody says how hard it is to launch it. And I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos of people just bouncing these things in the ground like a football.

[00:30:57] So, I'm thinking this is going to be a rodeo, especially since it's got more horsepower than it's supposed to have.

[00:31:03] It's a torque.

[00:31:04] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:06] I'm thinking this is going to be awful, but let's do it.

[00:31:10] And he says, okay, how do I throw it? I'm like, well. That's not a good sign.

[00:31:15] I would be the same way.

[00:31:17] Like, let's throw it hard because that's what it says is throw it hard like a football. I just hope he doesn't put a spiral on it.

[00:31:23] Well, I was going to say, yeah, it would be pretty easy to impart role into it if you throw it like a football. Because that's shaped like a football.

[00:31:30] Yeah. Anyway, he takes it out there and we go through everything and it's like, yeah, here we go. He throws it. It flies early. Just as gentle, as easy as it can be.

[00:31:41] How much throttle did you use?

[00:31:43] About 50% and then cracked it a little bit further once it got going.

[00:31:46] Yeah. So it didn't. Just beautiful.

[00:31:50] It needed like four clicks of right and a couple of clicks of up and that was it. And eventful is always good.

[00:31:56] So you're powering this with what?

[00:31:59] A motor. Right. Two three-cell 2200s in series. So it's for a six-cell setup. Oh, my goodness.

[00:32:09] He brought that last time. He missed it. He brought the actual airplane. It's not big.

[00:32:14] 6S? 6S. Holy. I've got 120 amp speed control in it, which is way overkill, but it was the same price as the 60 amp, so why not?

[00:32:22] True. Like, wow. These are not big airplanes.

[00:32:27] No. It's two pounds. I was going to say, it's probably smaller.

[00:32:30] Most of it's battery. Well, yeah. I mean, it's smaller than my Viper.

[00:32:38] Oh, yeah. Wingspan-wise, it's probably about the same, don't you think?

[00:32:41] Like, maybe a little smaller. I mean, similar, but, yeah.

[00:32:46] That's crazy.

[00:32:48] Well, your Viper's success.

[00:32:50] I know. That's what I'm saying. It's like… But it's EDF. Right. And this thing is probably three pounds lighter than my Viper. It could be, actually. Yeah.

[00:32:58] I don't know what yours weighs.

[00:32:59] I mean, with the retractable gear and all the other stuff, it's easily four pounds, right?

[00:33:07] Yeah, there it is. So, it was an uneventful first flight. Well, that's good. It was really smooth flying. I flew it. It feels really comfortable at around 50% throttle, and it's still hauling butt at 50%.

[00:33:25] Well, 6S, I'm sure. Yeah, no doubt. Not an EDF, by the way. No. 6S with a propeller. That is… Sounds like a prop.

[00:33:35] What size is the prop? 7.6, I believe, is what's on it. I bet that is turning, what, 15,000? We did the math on it last time. I need to tack it, though, because, that's theoretical versus real life. Goodness gracious. 1,050 watts burst.

[00:33:54] It just makes you giggle. That's more than your Electrostreak.

[00:33:59] By a couple hundred.

[00:34:00] Yeah. Yeah, because I remember your E-Streak was just under 1,000, right? It was 800. Like 800 or something? Yeah. Yeah. Goodness gracious. And it's easily probably a pound lighter than the E-Streak. Yeah.

[00:34:11] That is awesome. It's smooth.

[00:34:13] So, what's it like wide open?

[00:34:16] I only had it wide open for a few seconds. I never actually let it wind itself up because it just kept accelerating. But it went from the far left of my vision to the far right of my vision and was still accelerating. Oh, my goodness. It was covering some ground. I can't wait to see this thing. The elevator felt a little soft. I had to pull back on it more than I thought. So, I'm going to take some Expo out.

[00:34:37] And if that doesn't fix it, I'm going to put in a couple more millimeters. It only has six millimeters of up travel. Well, yeah. When it's going 3,000 miles an hour, you don't know. I really want to throw a speed meter in it and see what we actually are getting. Well, that remote ID thing that you got?

[00:34:50] It doesn't hold it.

[00:34:50] So, somebody's going to have to have it on their phone and read it. Oh, I see. Okay. So, we're going to have to find something that either holds it or have somebody read the phone while it's zipping by. It's going to be interesting. I can't wait to see it. I did put the nose down a little bit from a – yeah. It's fun.

[00:35:09] Yeah. Two – so, for anybody who's not familiar with what this – well, you guys probably went over it last episode. No, have at it. Please.

[00:35:17] Do it again.

[00:35:18] For those not familiar with what this thing looks like, it looks like a football with wings. Pretty much. I mean –

[00:35:24] No tail.

[00:35:25] No tail. Just verticals. Just – yeah.

[00:35:27] Just verticals and wings.

[00:35:29] So, it's got rudder and two other ones, right? Nope. No rudder? No rudder. So, just two Elevons, then. Two Elevons. Sweet. I can't wait to see it.

[00:35:38] It's light and simple as you can get.

[00:35:39] Yeah. I can't wait to see it. Blow-molded fuselage, right?

[00:35:41] Yeah. I've never had a blow-molded fuselage before. It looks like it's something you bought at KB Toys, but – It works.

[00:35:48] I can't wait to see it. By the way, the flying weight of the 70-millimeter Viper is just over four pounds.

[00:35:54] Yeah. So, those things have to wait.

[00:35:55] Right.

[00:35:55] Yep.

[00:35:57] What size 6S did you say? 2,200s?

[00:36:00] Yeah. I've got two 3S 2200s. 3S 2200s. 3S 2200s. After about five minutes of flight, I decided to land it because I don't know how those things are going to land, and they eat up a lot of space from what I've seen. Okay. They say you'll set it up 100 yards out. They're probably not kidding. Yeah. I came in with what I thought was way too hot, but it was really solid coming in, and it's a blow-molded fuselage, so it's just going to slide in the grass.

[00:36:26] I don't care how far it slides.

[00:36:27] Mm-hmm.

[00:36:28] Yeah. Well, our rough field. Yeah. The lower part of the vertical fin must have fell in a hole. Because it kicked the tail straight up, and so now it's flying nose down, moving forward. Giant air brake. Mm-hmm. Within just a few feet, then it drops a wing and cartwheels several times down the runway. Mm-hmm. Foam wing. Foam wing. Okay. It cracked the tip, the last inch of the tip. Just the tip? Yeah. Just the tip. Yeah. Well, that's good.

[00:36:57] That was coming.

[00:37:00] And cracked a little bit of the air on. So, yeah. I've got… I'm out of Foam Tac, so I've got a bottle of Foam Tac coming with my ultra slow stick parts. Sweet. Nice.

[00:37:12] Well, I'm sorry I missed the maiden, but… We'll have fun with it. I can't wait to see this thing fly again.

[00:37:16] Yeah, me too. Yeah, I want you to fly it. I think you'll get a blast. Oh, I'm jet jockeys you. Well, Ron should fly it, too.

[00:37:23] That's all right. You and your thing about flying other people's airplanes. You need to get over that.

[00:37:28] I guess I do. So, now I'm not scared of launching it.

[00:37:32] We're good.

[00:37:33] Yeah. As long as how to handle it, then flying isn't terrible. Maybe even I could hand launch it. I doubt it. I won't. But maybe I could. Just don't. Thanks. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

[00:37:45] Yeah. If it wasn't for the torque on it, I think you could just throw it straight up in the air and just let it go.

[00:37:50] Or not even throw it.

[00:37:51] Would you say it has enough thrust to launch vertically? Oh, it absolutely does. You could build a stand for it and just set it out there and launch it out of a stand.

[00:37:58] Or just a couple PVC pipes going up at a 45-degree angle and just set it on there. Oh, yeah.

[00:38:03] The only thing I'm worried about is pushing it that hard, all that torque.

[00:38:07] Well, but you won't have a lot of torque. You shouldn't. Excuse me. Sorry. You shouldn't if you have the PVC pipes kind of to have it right on for eight feet.

[00:38:18] Oh, long ones.

[00:38:19] That'd be better. Yeah. Yeah. Long ones.

[00:38:21] It launches. Hand launch is easy.

[00:38:23] Yeah. We're trying to make it more difficult than we need to. No, you really shouldn't. That's dumb.

[00:38:27] He's got it figured out already.

[00:38:28] He doesn't need our help. If Daniel can do it. Wow.

[00:38:32] Sorry, Daniel. He's gotten pretty good throwing everything except for the paramotor. I tell you who's got that down is Reggie. Reggie's got that nailed. Which, good for him. Surprising, yeah.

[00:38:43] Oh, no. That's not where I was going. Oh.

[00:38:45] It's like, good for him.

[00:38:45] Yeah, good for him.

[00:38:46] I really appreciate him throwing that thing for me. Yeah. Because I think I've tried it once or twice and I can get it all. It's just a tangly mess. Yeah. I want to try one of the new chutes off the V2. You should get one. See how much. Yeah. They don't have the chutes listed yet. Otherwise, I probably would have one ordered.

[00:38:59] Well, Dave has other things to spend money on right now. True.

[00:39:03] Yeah. I've been starting a little research. Just a little. Just. Could it be a jet?

[00:39:10] No. No. I think I know what it is, but I'm going to lie.

[00:39:13] Although the boomerang people keep sending me ads. I don't know what's happening.

[00:39:17] That's because we keep talking about airplanes in front of your phone.

[00:39:22] I've been looking at a replacement radio. I want to get away from Spectrum. And I've been kind of looking at the Radio Masters. Just barely started any research. This is not anything that's going to happen anytime soon. Maybe walk away from Radio Master and try something different. But right now, it's kind of the ones that have piqued my interest.

[00:39:45] And why is that?

[00:39:47] Because they do the multiple. Protocol. Protocols. Thank you. Plus, they also have a clear one, which is kind of interesting.

[00:39:56] A clear one?

[00:39:57] They've got a clear one with LED lights in it. Can we night fly?

[00:40:00] What? Okay. That's cool. I'm sorry.

[00:40:03] You think. Like, really? Yeah. A clear transmitter with LEDs in it? The only reason I'm thinking about it is for night flying. Yeah. But they're cheap enough. I could buy one literally for just night flying. Yeah.

[00:40:12] That does nothing for them. Oh, I think that's cool. To me, that just looks cheap.

[00:40:16] Like, I think. It looks like it came from a prison. It looks fun to me.

[00:40:21] Well, I haven't seen it. I'm just imagining it, I guess. Oh, well, right.

[00:40:24] It's not really the real I'm interested in. Okay. But there's the option.

[00:40:29] Yeah.

[00:40:29] And like I said, it's cheap enough. I could buy one just for night flying.

[00:40:31] See, for night flying, I want no lights in my hand. That's one of my irks with the iX20 is you can't easily, quickly dim the screen.

[00:40:44] Yeah. You think you'd be able to. You can.

[00:40:47] But there's no. So, one of the left. Oh, what's it called? The rear knob that's on the back. Yeah. The slider that's on the back. I have that set up for volume. So, I can mute it or I can go.

[00:41:00] My right one's set up for that. Yeah.

[00:41:01] Well, yeah. But anyway, so I can do, however loud I want it while I'm flying. Quick adjustment. I'd like to be able to set something like that up for the screen. You can't? But I have not found a way to.

[00:41:12] Hmm.

[00:41:14] But anyway, I didn't mean to take over your.

[00:41:16] So, if Verizon is listening, there is a nice little tidbit for you. Make it so we can dim the screen with the slider.

[00:41:22] I would think that would be something semi-simple. I would think of programming. And maybe I just don't even know how to do it and it's already there. Oh, well, it could be. But I don't know. I mean, people. I don't say some people. I never think about it, though, until I'm flying at night. I'm like, God, this is so bright.

[00:41:38] Oh, this is so bright.

[00:41:39] Yeah. But anyway, sorry, Dave. I didn't mean to take over you.

[00:41:42] No, it's all right. That was pretty much done. So, Radio Master. I kind of just started digging. Yeah. So. Well, if anybody has any tips for Dave looking around at new radios,

[00:41:52] Dave at rcplanelab.com.

[00:41:54] Thank you.

[00:41:55] That's your email address.

[00:41:56] I didn't know that.

[00:41:58] I know.

[00:41:59] No, but seriously, like I know nothing about other radios.

[00:42:02] I don't know anything about them either, obviously. Yeah, I've done essentially no research at this point. There's a lot to do. Oh, yeah. I mean, well, I mean, if you're just getting into high-end spectrum radios, you would require a lot of research also because they're so capable. The ones I've not just had.

[00:42:20] I've got full-color screens. High-end radios in general. Hall effect gimbals.

[00:42:25] Yeah.

[00:42:25] Yeah. That's what you have in your iX20, right? Yes.

[00:42:28] For about what you guys pay for one receiver. Yes. And they're, well, mine are also aluminum gimbals, which I like that too.

[00:42:35] It feels a lot sturdier than the plastic.

[00:42:37] I mean, I'm very happy with my DX9. Don't get me wrong. But just wanting to modernize.

[00:42:44] Pursue options.

[00:42:45] Pursue options. 2006 called. They want their radio back. Do what? It said 2006 called. They want their radio back.

[00:42:52] No.

[00:42:53] But I get it. You should go back that far. What would that have been? Like 2010?

[00:42:57] A DX9?

[00:42:59] Yeah.

[00:43:02] 12-ish. Let's see here. I was still doing the drug testing thing. That was five years ago because I bought a DX8 in St. Louis when I was on a drug run. Don't take it the wrong way. That's how he was able to avoid it. Yeah, that's how he was able to avoid it in St. Louis. Just to get it. So that was, it was probably eight years ago maybe. Okay. And I traded the DX8 in for a DX9.

[00:43:26] Yeah. So not that long.

[00:43:29] Just because I wanted to radio the talks. I really like the talking. Yeah. It is so handy.

[00:43:35] It is very handy to have every switch tell you what it's doing.

[00:43:38] Oh, I accidentally flipped a switch. What did I accidentally just flip?

[00:43:42] Yeah. Right.

[00:43:42] Oh, speed brake up. Oh, speed brakes. Click that back.

[00:43:46] Yeah. Yeah. And it's good to know so you don't have to look down to see where your switch is. It'll tell you.

[00:43:52] Or what rate I'm in. Right. Well, eventually, I hope to get to a point where I fly so much that I just intuitively know where all my switches are and what they do. Because I set them all up the same.

[00:44:04] Right.

[00:44:05] I try to. I try to also, but I don't fly enough to have that muscle memory.

[00:44:09] But there are certain times. I hope to get there, though. There are certain times you can't, though. Because, like, I will use the same switch, I think, for gear that I use for motor cutoff. Really? Or, like, the motor cut or engine cut.

[00:44:21] Yeah. Yeah. Motor cut's always the top right one. Yeah.

[00:44:23] That's right. Yeah. Gear's always the top left. So, you put your motor cut on your top left?

[00:44:29] No.

[00:44:30] My motor cut's on the top right. Now, I'm thinking. Now, I want to get my transmitter out and see what it says. Because I don't remember how I have it. Isn't that terrible? It's got so many switches. That's why. You're right. Gear is top left. You see what I'm saying? That's why I want to fly more. So, I can just have that. There was something I came across, though, that I had to set up different. Oh, brakes. That's what it was. I didn't have a plane with brakes before.

[00:44:52] So, I had to switch out.

[00:44:54] So, you put those on the right switch, then?

[00:44:55] Nope. Didn't even do that. It's on the right slider.

[00:44:58] I mean, because that would make sense to me. To put it on the right switch where you would normally have a motor cut off.

[00:45:03] Yeah.

[00:45:03] No. That's not what I did, though. Oh. That's probably what I'll do on mine.

[00:45:07] Something I could do without are the sliders on the back of the radio. Those things just annoy me.

[00:45:12] See, I like it.

[00:45:13] See, I went through and made sure they turned off the beep, because every time you hit center, they would beep.

[00:45:18] Yeah. You can turn that off easily.

[00:45:19] Yeah. I got that turned off. But, yeah. For some reason or other, it seems like I have to do it for every model. It doesn't.

[00:45:23] You do. Yeah. Because every model is separate. You set them all up differently. Now, what you can. Unless you set a template up. That's what I was going to say.

[00:45:30] You can set a template up. Now, when you start, see, I-axis, you can do that. Yeah.

[00:45:36] So, once again, another reason to kind of start looking around. But I could do without those sliders on the back of the radio. I feel them moving while I'm flying, and I just don't like it.

[00:45:46] Yeah. I mean, to each their own. I've come accustomed to having that amount of switches, and I do use a lot of them. I've never ever used them.

[00:45:56] I'll admit, the only one I use is for volume right now. And if I could set up the left one so it would control the dim.

[00:46:02] That would be perfect. That would be awesome. I get you.

[00:46:07] So, anyway.

[00:46:08] Hopefully, soon.

[00:46:08] Dave is in the market, potentially, for a new radio, and he's looking at Radio Master. So, any of you guys out there have recommendations or opinions or quick tips?

[00:46:18] Ideas or anything? It's got to work with spectrum receivers, because I have 50 of them.

[00:46:23] A metric S-load of them. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be Radio Master. You can be talked into something else, too, right?

[00:46:28] Yeah. Oh, probably. That's the first thing that really kind of caught my eye. Yep. Just because. So, here we go. So, send your ideas. Start this new adventure. Is it Jetty? Jetty is expensive. I would love Jetty, but it's money.

[00:46:42] Yeah.

[00:46:42] That's what I mean. Just go to that one instead. Yeah, man.

[00:46:44] Be done with it.

[00:46:45] I've handled a Jetty radio. Oh, it's just like, it's like a Ferrari. It's just. Oh, yeah. Just so nice.

[00:46:52] They're slick. I will say. But, honestly, I like mine. They're heavy. I've gotten, accustomed to the way my spectrum feels, and that's comfortable to me.

[00:47:02] I'm going to be honest. When I got the 20, I was concerned about it being bigger than the 12, for the 14 even. I don't like going back to the other radios now. Okay. Like, the 20 just has such a good feel in my hand, I'm used to it.

[00:47:14] Yeah.

[00:47:14] Like, if I use another one for a while, I'm sure I would get used to it. Probably. But, I like where I am right now. Yep.

[00:47:20] I get it. And Jetty's not out of the question. I just would take longer to go.

[00:47:25] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[00:47:26] I would love to see you get a Jetty. 20, 35, guys. Yeah. It's like, Jet? No Jet. I'd have spot a radio.

[00:47:34] Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah. I mean, for the price of the high-end Jetty, you could have a pretty good start on a Jet,

[00:47:40] Actually.

[00:47:41] Are they worth it? Like, I mean, are they… Well, from everything I've read, and like, I did actually get to feel one, it is different. I mean, it is a different feel. It's a different feel. And, like…

[00:47:53] Well, it's a different setup where the screen is and stuff, too, right?

[00:47:55] Yeah. But, I mean, it's kind of like, if I had to, and I'm not trying to downgrade or talk, crap about Spectrum, because I love my iX14. However, to me, the difference between the Spectrum, even the high-end Spectrums, to include yours, because I've flown with yours, too, the difference between them and, like, Jetty is, like, sitting in, say, a Cadillac, and how the fit and finish, it's still plastic, but it, fits nice, the form is good.

[00:48:27] It's, like, going from sitting in a Cadillac to sitting in, like, a BMW, like my BMW, for example. The fit and finish, like, when you close the door, it's very solid, there's no rattles, everything, all the seam gaps on the body are, like, just perfect,…

[00:48:43] Just that little stuff that doesn't really matter, but it does. Right.

[00:48:46] That's how my impression, my impression, between the differences between the two. Now, the programming is not as slick, I don't think, as the Spectrum.

[00:48:57] Yeah.

[00:48:57] Like, to me, the Spectrum, like the iX with the touchscreen, is super, super easy to use, I think. And somewhat intuitive, if you're familiar with Android smartphones, which…

[00:49:07] Yeah. We are. I am. Yeah, me too. So, anyway. So, if we had to talk about complaints, which I was not planning on talking about any of this at all, the only thing that I think I would like about the Jetty, and I think I've seen some other radios that have it, too, the screen being on top, as opposed to at the bottom of the radio. You don't like that, or you do like that? I would like to fly with both, but I think I would like it up top better.

[00:49:32] Yeah.

[00:49:32] Easier to see, and then your hands aren't in the middle of it, which I don't fly with an X-Strap, but if you do, that covers the screen.

[00:49:41] Yeah, it does. So, I don't know. I don't know. Just some options. Like I said, Jetty's not out of the question, but it's the Ashola.

[00:49:49] I think the FR Sky, I think their big radio on the screen is up high, too.

[00:49:54] Yeah, there's one of them. I don't remember which one it is, though, that I've seen.

[00:49:58] I mean, it felt pretty good. That's a good point, though. Like you said, we don't fly with straps, but if we did, it would absolutely hinder our view of the screen while flying, which you probably shouldn't be looking at the screen.

[00:50:08] Well, there's times where you need to look down. You need to see what it's saying. I always just hold my transfer up in front of my face.

[00:50:13] So, I do the same thing. So, I can kind of see the airplane and the screen in the same peripheral. Yeah. Now, we talked about peripheral. Some people don't have. Anyway. But, yeah. So, Dave's looking at a radio. Send your ideas to Dave at rcplanelab.com. Or, you can hit us up on our Discord channel. Rcplan that.

[00:50:33] You always look so proud of yourself when you say that. Like, you say it, then you look at me, and you give a nice little nod, and then a smile.

[00:50:38] Oh, no. I just. You just cookie. Here you go. No, it's like, did I do good? I enjoy the Discord channel. I'm maybe not on there as often as some other folks, but I do enjoy that. Yeah, I poke at it daily.

[00:50:50] Yeah.

[00:50:50] I like it. Good. That's why. Glad to hear that. I'm happy that something worked out nicely.

[00:51:01] Me, too.

[00:51:02] Something worked out for a change around here.

[00:51:04] Yes. I don't know what you mean about that.

[00:51:07] So, can we talk about this weekend yet?

[00:51:09] Oh, yes. Go ahead.

[00:51:12] So, yeah. The Illini Jet Rally is this weekend.

[00:51:15] You got a big grin on your face.

[00:51:17] Oh, yeah. It's going to be awesome. I mean, jets.

[00:51:22] And I'm official, by the way. I got my card in the mail.

[00:51:25] You did. You showed it to me.

[00:51:26] I got my card.

[00:51:27] Yep. That has my turbine fixed.

[00:51:29] Fixed.

[00:51:30] So, I guess turbine heli or rotary is next? No.

[00:51:34] If there was negative interest, that's where I would be.

[00:51:38] If jets are expensive, I can only imagine how expensive jet-powered helicopters must be. They can eat themselves alive in a millisecond. Yeah. In a heartbeat, which, jets can't do.

[00:51:50] Yes. But so, yesterday, we did make it over to Eli Field. We mowed. For about five and a half hours. We mowed. So, I'm going to be honest. That place is bigger than I thought it was. Like, when you just look out, it doesn't seem all that big. It's big. Like, when you mow, it grows.

[00:52:10] Like, I, I, okay. So, until Saturday, I was just planning on going over myself. I hadn't talked to you yet. I didn't know you were officially home and all that stuff, Tommy.

[00:52:19] Right. Right.

[00:52:19] And so, I texted you. You said I was going over to the field to do some cutting and stuff, and if you wanted to ride with me. And you said, yeah. And then you said, you give me a hand mowing, because they have two mowers there, which is nice. Yeah, perfect. And so, I'm like, okay, cool. We'll be done in like an hour. And then, we'll be able to fly.

[00:52:45] Sorry. Honestly, I thought we would be home, home, between four and five.

[00:52:51] It was like 7.30, I think, that we got back to my house.

[00:52:55] Yes. Because I'm so bad at figuring time and all that stuff. But, we did mow, and out of curiosity today, I did go on Google Maps and figured out how big it all is, and I subtracted all the stuff that we didn't mow and all that. But, Dave, because I already told Tommy, how big do you think that place is? Now, I'd say I don't want to do that, because I don't want to be like, oh, it's huge, and then think it's bigger, and then I have to say, no, it's actually smaller.

[00:53:24] So, take a guess, but take a guess on the conservative side, so I can still blow your mind. Eight acres. Okay. So, it was over nine. It's over nine acres that we cut yesterday.

[00:53:38] I think that's the most grass I've ever cut in a day.

[00:53:40] In your defense. In my defense. You were not planning on cutting the entire property. No, I wasn't. Your plan was to mow the areas that were… Plane-related. Right. Exactly. That were going to be seen and or potentially used runoff. For tents and for parking and all that stuff. Yeah. By the jet event.

[00:54:00] Mm-hmm.

[00:54:01] But, we got there, and it was, we took planes to fly.

[00:54:05] Mm-hmm.

[00:54:06] And it was crazy windy.

[00:54:07] Stupid windy. By the way, it was, I think, 12 or 13 miles an hour constant with 23 or 24 mile an hour gusts. That checks. Straight cross runway to maybe 45 degree.

[00:54:20] Yeah.

[00:54:20] Cross runway.

[00:54:21] The wind we had was completely 90 degrees to the runway. Yeah. That was bad. That was also why I came in fast with a goblin. -huh.

[00:54:28] I thought you said there wasn't any wind.

[00:54:30] The wind we did have. Oh.

[00:54:32] But not as much as we did. No. Nowhere near. Oh, yeah. We were. Yeah.

[00:54:36] At any rate. So, that's probably why you thought it would take a bit less than it actually took us. Because we did. We mowed the entire property. Because it was so windy, we couldn't, like, fly. So, and I'll take the blame. I was like, well, we're here. We may as well be constructive if we're not flying. True. Let's go ahead and mow, the areas we're not planning on mowing. And I'm glad, by the way.

[00:54:57] Probably could have done it in half the time had we just stuck to your plan.

[00:55:01] Yeah, and I'm glad we did that, too, though, because they also have a rock crawling event Saturday. So, I'm glad that's all mowed around there.

[00:55:10] Yeah, it worked out. It did. And the place looks nice.

[00:55:13] When we left, it looked really good. I'll be honest.

[00:55:16] It probably won't look that good Thursday, but.

[00:55:17] It probably didn't look that good now, honestly. Eh, but it still looks pretty good. Eh, it'll, it's going to grow. Because we didn't get any rain. That's true.

[00:55:24] So.

[00:55:24] Tents were going up today, by the way. Oh, really? So, yeah.

[00:55:28] People showing up early.

[00:55:29] Yeah. People start showing up, well, people are actually here yesterday already. That's true, yeah. But they'll be showing up en masse. Yeah. On Tuesday and Wednesday. Yeah.

[00:55:39] I'm really excited. I took Thursday off so that, I can join you if you take a half a day or a full day so we can go work. But you're, you expressed concern earlier. I'm high maintenance. Really? Can you explain?

[00:55:55] Well, no, I just, so we, we had talked about going over, like, I plan on going over Wednesday night. I'm going to go over for a little bit after work. Thursday, I took half day or a whole day. I haven't made up my mind yet. And then Friday, going to be there all day. And then Saturday, going to be there all day. Is that too much? Without the creature comforts of air conditioning.

[00:56:20] There's a trailer sitting in my backyard.

[00:56:22] Yeah. I've thought about that. I mean, I, we need, I need to buy an RV. Like, that's all I can say. But it's not going to happen anytime soon. But that is my concern. Not having a place to just kind of go and spend 15 minutes every now and then.

[00:56:36] I mean, you could jump in your car if you need to cool off. Yeah, I guess. It's supposed to be nice, though. Yeah. So, even if it's not, it's, there's going to be lots of cool jets and people.

[00:56:45] Well, and the other thing, too, though, like, honestly, morning flying there is, like, out of the question. Because that sun comes up right in your eyes.

[00:56:54] Oh.

[00:56:54] So, it's got to be high enough out of the way to where you're not. Yeah.

[00:56:58] Unless you have good glasses.

[00:57:00] I don't have, like, I have issues with, with, well, you're not even signed up.

[00:57:04] So, what's it matter? No, but I mean, I'll be able to watch. No problem.

[00:57:07] But if nobody is flying.

[00:57:10] Somebody will be flying. I can't be the only person with, I don't know, whatever these are called, transitions. Well, I have transitions, too, but. Well, you'll suck, then. Really? Yeah. Okay. I have no problems flying, like, even with the sun pointing at me, or right in my face, or whatever. I do. As long as I don't fly, like, between my eyeballs and the sun, I don't, I can, like, yeah.

[00:57:32] Yeah, I have problems with flying in too much sun.

[00:57:35] Hmm.

[00:57:36] Like, I lose sight.

[00:57:38] The morning would be the best time to fly, though, because that's probably when it's going to be the least windy, that and late, late afternoon or early evening.

[00:57:46] Yeah.

[00:57:47] If it's windy.

[00:57:48] Yeah. Hopefully it's not, but.

[00:57:50] But we'll see.

[00:57:50] Like I said, I plan on going over there Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. I just don't know exactly how long yet. Yeah. Friday all day, Saturday all day.

[00:58:00] But I'm looking forward to it. So, if you're coming by, look for Ron and Tom. It will be my first jet meet.

[00:58:06] I don't plan on flying. I don't. You've been there before, haven't you?

[00:58:09] Not for the jet meet. Really? No. Nope.

[00:58:13] Why did I think you've, oh. I don't know. You're in for a treat then.

[00:58:16] Yes. That's why I'm so excited.

[00:58:18] Yeah. There are some really cool airplanes there.

[00:58:21] Yeah. I mean, I've been there for RC Fest when they've flown, onesie, twosie, but I've never been there for their jet meet.

[00:58:29] It's a, yeah.

[00:58:32] Yeah. I can't wait.

[00:58:34] It's a good.

[00:58:35] Full report here in a couple of weeks?

[00:58:36] Yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about it. For sure. It's a good turnout. It's not huge, which is nice because it's still cozy enough to, talk to people, get to know people, and all that kind of stuff.

[00:58:46] Boomerang is going to be there. Boomerang Jets is going to be there. Oh, really? Yeah. I talked to Dan earlier today. You what? I talked to Dan earlier today. Dan Landis.

[00:58:54] Nice. Well, you'll have to talk to him then, too. I will.

[00:58:56] Phone's sitting right there.

[00:58:58] That's why it's there. Yeah, exactly.

[00:59:01] Boomerang RC Jets. Sorry.

[00:59:03] So, well, Elite Aerosports, they'll be in, too. They make some very nice jets.

[00:59:06] Yes.

[00:59:07] One day, maybe. That's a lot of money. Well, yeah. A lot of money. But they're so cool. They are. But, yeah, I'll be interested to see what they have because it's different every year.

[00:59:22] Yeah.

[00:59:23] Because the guys tend to change out what they have very often.

[00:59:29] Why is that?

[00:59:31] I don't know.

[00:59:32] Oh, I thought you were hinting as to why someone might buy a new airplane, from a different airplane than what they had previous years. Because they crashed it, maybe? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's where I thought you were going with that.

[00:59:44] No, I just, I think of Ali with all the different airplanes he's had. And he gets sick of it after a couple months and then builds another one and then gets rid of it and built another one. And he's got the coolest toys.

[00:59:57] Yeah. So, we'll see.

[00:59:59] Yeah. So, that's coming up this weekend. Excited. Got a little off topic, though. We did fly. Oh, yeah. We rode there yesterday.

[01:00:07] We did finally get to fly after we were done with the mowing. How long did that take us? Did you ever figure that out? I don't know, actually. I wish I would.

[01:00:15] It was at least three and a half, right? Three to three and a half hours. I was thinking closer to four. And that was with two of us. Based on timing, yeah. But, boy, it looks nice.

[01:00:23] Anyway. It does look nice. I won't give you that. We did fly. It was windy. I had some unsuccessful flights. I also had an unsuccessful flight.

[01:00:35] Touch and go. It was leaking all the way around. I took two planes. I broke two planes. It sounded like you guys did just about as well.

[01:00:41] Well, I didn't break any of mine. I took two and broke two. Yeah. I took three, flew two, and broke none. Right.

[01:00:51] So, I'm going to say one was not really my fault. No, for sure. So, okay. So, the Stinger 90s. Actually, you probably can't lay claim to either one of them, to be honest. Oh, I can. I mean, we'll talk about the second one. But, so, let's start with the 90mm Stinger. Stinger 90. So, first off, that's a fun airplane. Like, I'm, the more I fly that, the more I get used to it, the more I like it. My only complaint, if I have to be honest, 90mm fan, 6S5000 battery, two minutes.

[01:01:28] I get two minutes out of it.

[01:01:29] You're only getting two minutes out of a 5000? Yes.

[01:01:32] And when I land, I'm between 20 and 25, maybe 30% on the high end.

[01:01:38] So, I get three and a half out of my 90 at 15.

[01:01:42] So, that's why I was talking to Tommy on the way home. I was like, I wonder if there's some sort of, like, I don't know how old this is. It could be.

[01:01:48] It's a free wing, if anyone knows.

[01:01:51] But it, I mean, I have no clue what, do they still make it? Is this something you can still buy? Is this something that was made, six, seven years ago, where electronics were not where they are now? So, is it not as efficient?

[01:02:02] My F-15 is about six years old or more. But you put an upgraded fan in it, didn't you? It's an eight cell setup now. But I still, in the old fan, it got three and a half minutes. I get three and a half minutes regardless.

[01:02:14] On a 6S5000? -huh.

[01:02:15] Yeah, 5200, but.

[01:02:18] Well, I guess that's negligible. But yeah, so still, that's what I'm getting down to after a two-minute flight. And that's even, and okay, so at two minutes, I'm saying it might be 215, something like that.

[01:02:31] So, the airframe might have something to do with that also. True. It's, to me, it looks like a draggy, for lack of a better word, airplane. It is wide. It's kind of bulbous. Yeah. It has, yeah, it has a taller profile, the fuselage has a taller profile than, say, your Viper. A little bit wider. It's wider. Yeah. So, I mean, there's a drag coefficient there that you probably ought to try to factor in. But I don't know, about a minute and a half worth.

[01:02:55] Well, but I do like to fly that one pretty much full throttle the whole time, too. Yeah. There's your problem.

[01:03:02] Yeah. It's energy conservation. That's part of it. Well, but it's more fun. I know, it's more fun.

[01:03:07] For sure. I mean, yeah, sure, I could go half throttle and just fly around a little bit. But, so, anyway, so my timer is set at two minutes because most of the time I'm full throttle. So, really, by the time you, and that also, what I was going to say is me pushing the airplane out to the runway.

[01:03:24] I don't taxi with it. I don't. I always have somebody put it up because I don't want to waste that energy taxiing.

[01:03:29] Right. Oh, and that's the other thing. We talked, when I flew that at the field, the local field here on grass, you remember how that nose gear we were talking about, how it was just. Tucking under. Tucking under. No problem on cement. On concrete, it does fine or asphalt, whatever.

[01:03:42] Except it does this weird dog track thing.

[01:03:44] Well. When it gets light on the gear. Well, even when it's not light on the gear. But I think that's what, so, okay. Back to the flights and stuff and what happened. And I noticed, more so yesterday, and I'm assuming that's probably because I've not really taxied much with this other than in grass. But on cement, it really, really, really turns to the right. Just going straight. The front gear looks straight.

[01:04:18] So, I mean, usually with as much as that was turning, that was a good arc.

[01:04:21] Oh, yeah.

[01:04:22] Usually with that, you can tell by looking at it that the gears off center needs to be straightened. You got flex in it? Nope.

[01:04:29] What do you mean? Flex in the pushrod?

[01:04:31] Oh, no. No, nothing like that. Solid setup. Yeah. So, the right rear gear, the main, was towed in quite a bit. And so, I think. Driving the back of the plane to the left. To the left.

[01:04:43] Which makes it turn right.

[01:04:44] So, I think that was my problem. And I could tell, like, when it was sitting down, it was all like cattywampus. It was just kind of weird. Just in that one gear more than anything. And.

[01:04:54] Yeah. And if you look at the tires, even, they're worn. They're like not. They're cone-shaped.

[01:04:59] They're, yeah. Exactly.

[01:05:01] So, anyway.

[01:05:01] More so on that side.

[01:05:02] Yes.

[01:05:04] I don't know the history of the plane. So, that plane came with, I bought it at a swap meet. It came with an extra full set of gears. Honestly, I never looked at them to see if they were new or if they were used or if they were replacement gears or if, if they had been replaced already or what. Just never really looked through the parts box. But, so, that is the gear that as I landed, not, I don't think hard, especially for. Not that one.

[01:05:30] No.

[01:05:32] True. Anyway, I don't think I landed very hard. As I landed, the gear just pulled out.

[01:05:37] Yeah.

[01:05:37] Like, the foam. Like, it pulled out of the foam. The whole mounting block and everything came out of the foam. It's going to be an easy fix. Easy, fast fix. Oh, yeah. I haven't had a chance to do it yet. But. I mean, it just happened yesterday, so. I know. It feels like it's so long ago, though, for some reason. But, anyway. So, that was the end of my flying. I think I got six flights or something on it. I'd have to.

[01:05:57] That sounds right.

[01:05:57] Yeah. I'd have to look again. But, it flies really good. I need to turn the gains down a little bit on the AS3X. But, I took that one because I knew it was windy. And, that is still the plane that I will take because I don't. I don't want to say it anymore because I do.

[01:06:14] But, I don't care about it. Like, I don't have. I have hardly anything in it. I'm going to say you got a low investment in it. Right. And, it's already beat up. Like, it looks like. What's one more ding? Right.

[01:06:25] It's very beat up. It's very. I don't want to say it's ugly. It's utilitarian. But, it's close. So, yeah. That's why I took that in the wind. We figured with the wind, it's good to fly in wind and try and learn how to handle it better. Which, I'm glad we did that.

[01:06:46] Yes.

[01:06:46] But, it was difficult at first to fly. And, most of the time, I think we found out, too, that landing was much better just with takeoff flaps.

[01:06:58] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:06:58] I had one hard landing, and that was when I was coming in, like I said, it was a crosswind runway, and I had the full flaps down, and that just, I think it slowed it down too much. Way too draggy. Yeah. Slowed it down too much, and I didn't have the control that I would have had, had I just had regular takeoff flaps.

[01:07:16] Yeah.

[01:07:17] So, that one was a little rougher of a landing, but still not enough to where it should have torn anything apart.

[01:07:23] It was more like a carrier landing. It was more like a drop than a landing.

[01:07:27] Yeah.

[01:07:28] It was a full stall landing. From a couple feet up. Yeah. It came down pretty hard.

[01:07:33] But, it shouldn't have messed anything up like that.

[01:07:36] Yeah. It could have broken it loose, and then you finished it off.

[01:07:38] You don't know what abuse that had occurred previously.

[01:07:40] Well, that's true. Well, yeah, that's the other thing. But, anyway, so, the next landing was my unfortunate last. With that airplane. With that airplane.

[01:07:50] Because we took our decathlons too. We did.

[01:07:52] Your turn. You talk.

[01:07:54] Oh.

[01:07:56] Because I did the same thing you did with your Viper.

[01:07:59] Oh, yeah. So, the Viper 70mm, which I, even though it may not look pretty, it's one of my, it's one of my favorite airplanes. Kind of like the stinger with me. It flies so nice. And, it makes such pretty low, high-speed passes with the, anyway. So, anyway, I devoted an entire flight to touch and goes, which equates to about three. Because, you only get like three and a half minutes, right? Three was a spare. Yeah. Right, exactly.

[01:08:28] So, I was doing that, and that was the same thing. I was bringing the, flying the approach with full flaps, landing flaps. And, I think, so, the way the wind was coming, it's coming, it's from our back, right? It's coming from the, what, south, I guess that is? Whatever. Whatever direction that is.

[01:08:47] North.

[01:08:47] And, directly behind us is the pavilion. well, the pavilion is behind us, and then behind the pavilion is the big hangar, right? Off to the side. Off to the side. Yeah. Off, kind of, to our left. And, I think what was happening was the wind was going over the hangar, right? And, it does the whole, eddy, yeah, rolling eddy, whatever.

[01:09:09] But, then, once you get past the building, it's a fairly, the wind is not going over the building at that point. It's just going straight across with no, and probably the velocity is a little higher, right? Because there's no block for it. So, I think what was happening was, I think we were getting to that point on the runway where we were in the somewhat calm condition that was, being protected by the hangar.

[01:09:31] And, then, when we would get out of that to that steady, faster stream of air that's not going over the hangar, if that makes sense. And, then, so, yeah, full flaps. One touch and go, I came in, and I think I may have touched down, or I was getting ready to it. It happened kind of, I did touch down, and it bounced.

[01:09:48] And, then, I think I got into that flow of air, because I was pretty far down the runway, and it just picked up the left wing and rolled it over on its lid, right on the runway. No damage. Well, except for some scratches on the canopy, but.

[01:10:01] I think that's not the first time for that airplane.

[01:10:04] Yeah.

[01:10:04] Because it had black marks.

[01:10:05] Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's got more now. So, probably, yeah, probably not the first time it's been on its lid. But, yeah, same thing sort of happened to you with your decathlon. Yeah, so. And, almost the same spot, even.

[01:10:19] Oh, it was pretty close to being the exact same spot. So, I was flying, most of the time, I was just full throttle taken off, because it's windy, and you want to get up as high as you can, get out of the wind, so you're not too close to the ground. Well, this time, the wind kind of felt like it was dying down just a little bit, and it was more towards the end of the day. Yep. And, yeah, sure enough, I thought, well, I like scale takeoff, so let's just do a nice scale takeoff.

[01:10:47] So, I took off, and I held it six inches off the ground or so, didn't think anything of it. It was flying along nice. Yeah. All of a sudden, like, before I could even react, literally just flipped over on its lid upside down.

[01:11:00] Mm-hmm.

[01:11:00] Hit the wingtip on the ground, broke the propeller. I was going to buy a new wing until I saw it's $75. Oh, my.

[01:11:09] Yeah.

[01:11:09] So, I'm not going to buy a new wing. Does it have servos in it for that? Nope. Oh, my goodness. It doesn't even look like it has the… Struts.

[01:11:16] Two-thirds of what we paid for the whole thing. Yeah, exactly.

[01:11:18] Yeah, I know. It doesn't even look like it has the Quick Connect servo thing in it. Yeah. It looks like you have to take that from your old one and put it in the new one. So, I'm just going to glue that one together. Yeah. Like, it's literally just the inch or two, not even that. I mean, yeah, probably about an inch, I guess, of the wingtip.

[01:11:35] Yeah. I was going to say, there's a hard plastic portion of the wingtip. It looks like it just snapped that off.

[01:11:39] It snapped right off. And then a tiny little bit of the aileron. Aileron came right off. Yeah.

[01:11:43] And they're clean. They're clean.

[01:11:44] Oh, absolutely. It'll be able to be glued back on. Nobody will see a difference.

[01:11:48] That's what I'm going to do. Yeah. I would have done that even if the wing was only $20.

[01:11:53] Oh, really? See, I like having nice.

[01:11:56] Well, I do, too. There's something like that that's so easy to repair that you can fix without even seeing it. Whatever.

[01:12:02] No, I mean, it's going to have a little bit of folds and stuff in the wing. It'll be okay.

[01:12:07] It'll be fine.

[01:12:08] But, yeah, so I ordered my propeller today, $7. That'll be here, I think, tomorrow, maybe.

[01:12:13] Yeah.

[01:12:14] So I'll have that and be able to get it fixed, and we'll fly that again sometime soon.

[01:12:18] Speaking of ordering stuff, I did order a new vertical fin for the Viper.

[01:12:22] Oh, for the Viper, your 70 millimeter?

[01:12:24] Yeah, just I like that airplane enough. I know, right? To make it kind of look nice. So hopefully they don't email my new fin in a padded envelope. I don't think they'll email it to you that way. Or, I'm sorry, mail it. Hopefully they don't email it to you.

[01:12:37] I was wondering about that. I know. I will fall over, which isn't hard for me to do, by the way. Weebles wobble, and they do fall down. If they send that to you in a padded envelope. Well, we'll see you in a few days.

[01:12:51] All the stuff I get is in boxes.

[01:12:53] Yeah.

[01:12:54] I even look at some things and go, why would you put this in a box? But they're all in boxes.

[01:12:58] A while back, I mean, Dave's not the only one that's gotten stuff crushed in padded envelopes from Verizon. And I ordered a, I think it was a replacement motor for that UMX S-Bach that shipped in a padded envelope that went through their sorter and just crushed it. So hopefully my fin comes in one piece and not flat. Flatter than it's supposed to be. We'll see. It's a puzzle. So anyway.

[01:13:29] Yeah.

[01:13:29] Yeah. Got some flying in. Good times.

[01:13:31] It was fun. Like I said, we'll get stuff fixed.

[01:13:34] Ron has two airplanes to repair.

[01:13:37] Wow. That's true, actually. I'm not lying. But it sounds bad. Quick glue. Easy repairs. It's like I sound like Reggie.

[01:13:46] No, it's just a quick fix. It's no big deal. Here, Dave.

[01:13:49] Take it home.

[01:13:54] I can't say anything because I've got one of your repair projects at my house too. One of my repair projects. Well, not a repair. Just a… Oh, the nose of the glider. Which, thanks for giving me another year on that. That's…

[01:14:06] Oh, I've missed the glider event this year. So yeah, my rush went out the door when I knew I was not going to hit that. So as long as I can do it next year, which that should be easily doable. I say that now, but it might not be. Well, yeah.

[01:14:18] I mean, we did decide. I don't know if you want to talk about this, but I'm going to mention it.

[01:14:23] Oh, it scares me.

[01:14:24] We did decide. What did we decide? That we're going to, in earnest, we're going to start on the telemaster. Or, I'm sorry, the trimotor. Sorry. I was like, what are we doing with the telemaster? Well, I've got all of your projects on my head, because there's so many of them.

[01:14:39] What is all my projects on you? Wow. But anyway, yeah.

[01:14:43] Trimotor. Yeah. In earnest, we talked about it, and I kind of have a plan. I'm going to take the fuselage print home one of these nights after. And after I'm done with Reggie's jet in my house, well, when Reggie is done with Reggie's jet at my house, that'll be next on my table. I bet that'll be next year.

[01:15:02] Reggie, by the way, Reggie, by the way, is not going to make the jet meet. With his jet. He will not be flying at the jet meet.

[01:15:09] Well, he will not be flying.

[01:15:10] He did not hold up his end of the bargain. He has a jet, though. So? We said in two years, we will be flying at this event.

[01:15:19] You did say flying.

[01:15:20] Yeah, and that's coming up. It's this weekend, Reggie. You've got like three days. Just buy one. No. Like, he might be able to get away with flying an EDF there and saying, I own a jet and I am flying at this event.

[01:15:41] Because by the time this comes out, it'll be too late.

[01:15:44] You'll have to text him. Tell him to sign up. I'm not going to tell him that.

[01:15:47] You should. No. Okay. It'll be up to him. Maybe I'll suggest to him, hey, if you're going to go to the jet rally or jet event, take the Viper so you'll have a jet to fly there. And then I'll leave it at that.

[01:16:01] You should do that.

[01:16:02] Okay. Well.

[01:16:05] Speaking of EDFs, by the way, I don't know. I remember I told you I ordered the Blue Angels, the X-Fly, blah, blah, blah. I don't remember what it was from Banana Hobby. It's shipped.

[01:16:15] Yay.

[01:16:15] I should have it this week. So we'll talk about that next time. Twin 40s.

[01:16:19] Twin 40s. That's right. Cool.

[01:16:21] Yeah.

[01:16:21] I look forward to seeing that. Me too, actually. Any chance it'll be here before the weekend?

[01:16:29] It's supposed to be, but I won't fly it there. No.

[01:16:33] You're not supposed to have made an airplane at an event.

[01:16:36] Oh, that would be a big deal for that small thing. Yeah, exactly. But, yeah. Either way. No, I won't have time to get, because I've got to find out.

[01:16:44] Did you sign up, by the way, for the event? Yeah. You signed up? Okay, good. Signed up, paid, everything. I'm official.

[01:16:49] Officially registered.

[01:16:50] It'll be the first time I get to see you fly your MB339. It will be. So that's exciting for me. It is.

[01:16:56] I know. I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be a lot of fun. Yes.

[01:17:00] And I still can't believe you haven't been to it. Are you coming, Dave, by the way? Probably not.

[01:17:05] Whatever. Rain on you, I'm afraid. Jeez. That's a long way to go for airplanes that you don't really care about. I guess I didn't realize that you hadn't been to one before, Tommy.

[01:17:15] Not a jet meet. Not a jet-specific meet, huh?

[01:17:19] Yeah.

[01:17:20] It'll be fun. It'll be good. I'm looking forward to it. Me too.

[01:17:23] Anything else you guys want to talk about? Or I think I'm good.

[01:17:27] You good? My FMS plane's still on backboard. They said September. Now it's October. Which one is that? Super Cub. Oh. The 1700. Yeah. Yeah, so I'll have that for next spring. Maybe. I'm actually about ready to cancel it. I don't really need it or want it. I was going to say, that's one thing I'll say about the banana hobby thing.

[01:17:45] They said it's going to ship late August. And it shipped late August. Actually, what is today? This is kind of more mid-August, really.

[01:17:57] Mid to late August.

[01:17:58] So, yeah. At least they were good on their timing.

[01:18:01] Yeah.

[01:18:02] I hope they don't ship it to you in a padded envelope. We will see.

[01:18:08] Some of those boxes from China are a little sketch.

[01:18:11] Yeah. Oh, I don't know why that reminded me. When we were going to Eli yesterday, still doesn't seem like yesterday, but anyway. Before we left, I felt like I was forgetting something. I could not figure out what I had forgotten. We got over to the field, and I went to get my chargers out. Pulled my chargers out. I left the power cords at home in the kitchen. They were still plugged into the wall, where I charged a couple batteries before we left.

[01:18:40] So, luckily, I found somebody had a couple chargers like mine in the shop. So, I stole their power cords. I put them back, but I used them. Yeah.

[01:18:51] I don't think they would have minded.

[01:18:52] No, absolutely not. But I'm just saying, like, I had that feeling I couldn't place. Like, I usually am very good about, because especially with electrics, you don't have that much you have to take with you. So, I always know what cases I need to take and all that kind of stuff, and I just felt uneasy about something. I couldn't place what it was.

[01:19:09] That had to have been what it was. My biggest fear of traveling to events is, did I remember my transmitter? Did I remember my wing tube?

[01:19:17] Yes.

[01:19:18] Wing tubes, eh. Transmitter's a big one, because they fly everything now. One radio, ten planes.

[01:19:24] Yeah.

[01:19:25] I would say that I've forgotten a wing tube more than I've forgotten my transmitter.

[01:19:30] That's happened several times to me.

[01:19:32] I've forgotten batteries, but I've never forgotten a transmitter.

[01:19:35] I've forgotten gas once, too.

[01:19:36] Yeah, I remember that. That was all the way.

[01:19:38] Back in the day, it was glow plug drivers. I was always forgetting a glow plug driver.

[01:19:42] Well, they never last for a long time, either. Or forgetting to charge them. Yeah.

[01:19:44] Yeah.

[01:19:45] I got seven of them here. Oh.

[01:19:47] That could be like an episode. What did you forget to take to the field today? what I mean?

[01:19:52] There you go.

[01:19:53] There you go. Show idea. You're welcome. Don't thank me. Thank yourself. I didn't thank you.

[01:19:59] I said, you're welcome.

[01:20:00] You thanked me.

[01:20:01] Oh, wait. Don't. You're welcome. Anyway.

[01:20:04] Yep. That's all I got. Me too. Oh, wait. I do have one more thing. Sorry. Oh, wait. There's more. I ordered servos for my jet. Oh, yeah, you did. One step closer. A little progress every day. A little bit. Just a little. How do you eat a whale? One bite at a time.

[01:20:17] Mm-hmm.

[01:20:17] So, I ordered servos. They will be here this week. So, that bite is done. Yes.

[01:20:22] So, what's next?

[01:20:24] After the servos? Well, the servos should take me a few days to… That'll give me a few more days of working on the jet, and then I'll be waiting again. Probably next will be the receiver. Yeah, and I'm going to buy the synapse receiver like what you have for yours. Smart. Just because I have spectrum, I mean, it all sort of talks to each other.

[01:20:42] Well, if you don't want the gyro, you can just do a power safe, but I would do that.

[01:20:46] I think I would like a gyro. At least… At least have the option of it. Yeah, at least at the beginning, right? Yeah, so… Because my jet's not going to fly like yours, and as nice probably as yours, but we'll see. Anyway, that'll be next, and then I'm saving the big chunk for last. So, the turbine will be the last one.

[01:21:04] Yeah, which will be the engine, so… And you're going 102? Yeah.

[01:21:07] Oh, man. Well, because I'm planning on flying it off of grass.

[01:21:12] Are you really?

[01:21:13] Yeah. See, I'm just…

[01:21:15] I'm good. I'll fly it in our field. Just with… No. With grass clippings and all that kind of stuff, I don't want anything sucked up into the turbine. I get that. That's a lot of airflow that comes out of the front that sucks in.

[01:21:30] Yeah, I mean, I'm going to put screens and stuff in it, as per the recommendations by the guys at Boomerang. But, yeah, because I told them, I was like, this is my plan. Is it 102 too much? And they're like, oh, no. And they said, also, if you're flying at elevation, 3,000 feet or higher, they would recommend the bigger engine, too.

[01:21:54] Yeah.

[01:21:54] So, and then I told them, I was going to be flying off of grass, and they were like, oh, yeah, cool, make sure you put some screen, whatever. So, they didn't seem to be too concerned about it.

[01:22:05] Yeah.

[01:22:05] Yeah, my F-15 plugs the screens every flight.

[01:22:08] Yeah. So, yeah, that's what I'm concerned about. It'll be okay. It won't be mine, so it'll be okay.

[01:22:18] But, yeah, it'll be thirsty, but that's okay.

[01:22:22] Fun. What servos did you get, by the way?

[01:22:24] I went with ProModeler.

[01:22:26] Okay.

[01:22:27] I talked, had a pretty lengthy conversation with John, with John Beach at ProModeler. And I, so I actually ordered more servos than I'm going to need because we're not exactly sure. So, I measured the pocket, like the stabs, for example. Boomerang tells you you have to use wing servos, which are these flat little servos with three mounting points on them. Designed for,. Thin. Thin, yeah. Thickle fire foils. Yeah.

[01:22:55] And which, I think their servos, those wing servos are about 12 millimeters or so wide or thick.

[01:23:02] That is thin.

[01:23:04] Yeah. But I measured the pocket at its, like, towards the trailing edge. And the way I measured, I'm getting about 15 and a half to 16 millimeters of usable space. So, I told John that. So, I told John that. And he's like, well, I mean, I can sell you a wing servo, but, and it would probably work just fine. and he explained why he wouldn't, use that servo. So, he's like, I would rather you put one of my micro servos or even better, one of my mini servos.

[01:23:34] And his mini servo measures 15, millimeters thick. So, plus a millimeter on either side because the sort of, the motor sort of, it's machined. So, it hangs out the side of the case a little bit. So, I'm going to try to fit that in there if I can.

[01:23:49] It's going to be tight.

[01:23:51] 280 ounce inches of torque those things make. Which is, I mean, if you're, if you're doing like an 800 foot loop and you're going to be cruising at the, at the bottom end of a loop, you want that extra torque to be able to pull it out, right? Yeah.

[01:24:04] So, so I'm hoping those will fit.

[01:24:06] But if I have to go the micro route, which are like 13 millimeters thick, I think they were, 12 and a half, 13. even those made like 180. So, it's just that the gears are a little bit smaller. They're a little bit heavier duty in the, in the mini servo.

[01:24:21] Well, if the, if the guys are going to be there from boomerang, you ought to take your, servos if you have them by the end of the week and just say, here's the servos, here's the wing, or here's the stab. What do you guys think?

[01:24:37] Well, I know what they'll tell me because they sell servos. Boomerang does. They sell KST and I think they sell another brand called Torque and they would obviously want me to use those servos.

[01:24:48] No, I mean like with the ones you have, say, which ones do you think I should use? This is what I'm using. I'm not, I don't think they would talk to you.

[01:24:54] Well, no, I'll be able to tell, like I can, I can take the servo and sit it in the stab and put the servo cover on and be able to tell if I'm going to be able to use it or not.

[01:25:02] But if it fits, it fits.

[01:25:02] Oh, okay. Yeah, if it fits, it fits. And if it doesn't, if I can modify the pocket, like if I can grind a little bit of the balsa sheeting off the cover and maybe a little bit off the sheeting of the stab and make that bigger servo fit, absolutely going to do that.

[01:25:15] Okay.

[01:25:16] Just because I want the beefier gears and the more torque. Gotcha. So, but like all the servos I ordered, they're all aluminum cases and they're sexy servos, huh? The servos I got for the wing, so the flaps and ailerons, 505 ounce inch servos. I mean, they're, they're beefy, crazy heavy duty.

[01:25:39] Yeah.

[01:25:39] But I mean, if this thing is going to be capable of 120 mile an hour or more. I was going to say more than that. You're going to need, need something to hold those surfaces out in the air, out in the, out in the wind.

[01:25:50] So last time the, I was over at Eli, one of the guys was flying his MB339, same motor I have. And he, or his, telemetry unit said 154 miles an hour. So they're speedy. Cool. Yeah. I can't wait. You'll see some fast jets this weekend. I'm excited. 200 miles per hour. Exactly.

[01:26:17] That's exciting to me.

[01:26:18] Yeah. I can't wait.

[01:26:19] It'll be cool. It'll be fun.

[01:26:22] So anyway, yeah. Servos on the way. Now I'm one step closer. Now I'm ready. That's it. That's truly all I have to talk about.

[01:26:29] Are we sure? One last poll.

[01:26:31] That's it.

[01:26:32] I'm done.

[01:26:32] Dave.

[01:26:32] I was on earlier. Dave was down an hour ago. All right. Well, thank you everybody for listening until next time. I'm Ron. I'm Tom. And I'm Dave. Goodbye. Good night. Good night.

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