Ep 182: New Planes, New Radio, New Trailer!

[00:00:11] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I’m one of your hosts, Tom, and I’m dave. Hello guys, I’m not. How are you? I’m good. I nailed that. You have to, you have to admit.

[00:00:24] Yeah you did great thank you we’ll go back to me next time yeah I think that’s probably wise.

[00:00:33] Well, so it literally has been like two days, I think, since we recorded our last episode. Three right, three days. We’re trying to work ourselves up a little bit because we have a very special event coming up that rhymes with the whole mall. Maybe I shouldn’t have said it that way, but rhymes with interesting choice of words. Rhymes with flow fall. Sure is that better? Yeah, that’s, that’ll work that way. I didn’t say it, but we do have a lot to talk about, we do. We have

[00:01:03] Flown quite a bit, we did. We’ve maidened between tommy and I: nine airplanes in one day, yep, successfully, successful, maiden, maiden, yes, big maidens, and yeah, in my case it was a big.

[00:01:20] I don’t want to steal your thunder. What’d you do? I made into my jet, you flew your jet. My boomerang ranger has been flown finally. Yes, and I got to do the maiden, which was. We’ll talk about it.

[00:01:30] Later, but very, very exciting, very important to you. Thank you also. We have a new radio in the group. Dave has finally received his. Whatever this thing is no thanks to the united states postal service. I.

[00:01:45] Don’t know what it is I just blanked it’s it’s a free sky xs20rs or x20rs excuse me so dave came.

[00:01:53] Carrying it in like it was like a new baby. It was really, really it was cute and it was weird. He was singing to it and everything it was stroking- rightfully so. I mean, it’s an attractive transmitter. I think it’s cool. Is it free sky or fr sky or what goes both ways? I depends on who you talk to.

[00:02:10] Whether or not shut up it depends on who you talk to. It’s either fr sky or free sky, and I tend to go towards free sky myself, but I will occasionally call it fr sky, so it’s easier to say.

[00:02:23] Where’s the e come from but there yeah there’s no I don’t know it’s more frisky than anything.

[00:02:29] Right that it’s frisky, yeah, frisky, yeah. It’s just one letter short of that, actually. But, like, with the capital f and the small r, how, like you abbreviate some words like mr, for example, m, capital, m, like, so maybe it’s a, so it’s like father sky, yeah, father sky. Maybe, I don’t know, I know it’s.

[00:02:48] Definitely not the name that attracted me to it so for sure nobody knows nobody knows nobody knows.

[00:02:53] But it is what it is probably just a bad translation of something it could be but we’ll see maybe we.

[00:02:58] Can get that cleared up here in a couple episodes maybe they meant to put an m there instead of the.

[00:03:02] F. Mr sky, I don’t know, pure conjecture. We have no clue. Yeah, not a clue, but day seems to be happy with it, so I am extremely happy with it. Yeah, and then the other thing we’ll talk about is my trailer.

[00:03:16] And the updates we have made on it very exciting so far, too, and what it’s probably I’m very excited about. That too is what I meant. So, yeah, almost as much fun, honestly, working on the trailer as it is working on an airplane. I said almost, but it’s been fun actually. Yeah, it looks really good. Yeah, it’s been a blast. I can’t wait to for you to put pictures on the website- hilarious. I can’t wait.

[00:03:41] That was it was fun so who wants to go first are we going to talk about dave’s radio we’re going to.

[00:03:46] Talk about flying stuff, or my airplane or my trailer. I think dave’s probably the most excited about what he brought for show and tell, so let’s let dave start. Dave, have at it, okay. So my dx9 is getting a little long in the tooth. It’s only 15. Wait, it’s longer than that or older than that, isn’t it? Dx9’s 2007? Ish, I was gonna say for dave, that’s new, right, that’s new to me. But yeah, okay, yeah, no.

[00:04:12] It’s been around a while it’s working perfectly no real issues with it except for user related.

[00:04:19] Id10t problems yeah that’s not very nice yes I didn’t know if he caught it or not I know what.

[00:04:25] That is. He knows what that means. Oh, spectrum is no longer updating it. You guys go your so-called free upgrade to what 20 channels? Well, I got the upgrade to 20. He already had, he already paid for his 20, he had the paid subscription, exactly. Yeah, it’s okay. Anyway, it was getting to the point where I was needing something a little more powerful and more up-to-date, a little more capable, a little more capable. Dx9 does pretty much everything I do. I don’t fly anything horribly.

[00:04:59] Complicated, but it was no longer able to support the ford programming and other things and it just- which is nice, yeah, having that ability- the speed controls with the reverse built in. I couldn’t access any of that right, so it was time to upgrade and I started looking around and I just spectrum just wasn’t doing it for me anymore. Pricing was a little high for what you were getting. I mean, you’re getting great radios, don’t get me wrong, they’re. They’re really nice, yeah.

[00:05:32] But I was seeing other options out there, sure, and talking to other members from the podcast and the internet we were. They were recommending other manufacturers. I was looking at fly sky and radio master and all those others that are out there, and I had a couple people recommend to me to take a look at the free sky radios that they were using in jets, yeah, and high-end helicopters and so forth. So I started looking at them and it’s like, wow, this is a well-built radio.

[00:06:07] Does everything I wanted to do, and then some I’m still discovering stuff it can do. You will be for a long time so I’m. I didn’t even know some of this stuff existed, not to mention being

[00:06:19] Able to do it well and to be fair. To be fair, I’m still like learning stuff with my ix14. Yeah, same with me. And so, yeah, I think once you, once you get into the more capable radios- unless you’re really, really maybe even involved with designing them- you probably are in the same boat. You probably discover new things every time you sit down and tinker with it. So well, the nice thing about computer.

[00:06:44] Radios too is you get the updates you get changes you get things constantly getting better yeah.

[00:06:50] This seems like they update these things like every other month or so. Yeah, this is a brand new radio. I had to update it. I mean, they didn’t have them in stock. This was manufactured. They shipped it out. Yeah, and it was out of date, right? Yep, so just in a matter of a few weeks there was an update. Cool, sorry, I have too much ice in my cup. It’s okay. His cup overfloweth. His cup overfloweth with ice.

[00:07:13] Iceth, iceth over, iceth over. Careful how you say that. Yeah, anyway, so it’s up to date. Having to learn a lot, I’ve never had to use a computer with a transmitter before, and now I’ve got basically this entire transmitter is back up on my computer, which is ancient. I need to update. I was gonna say

[00:07:35] Did you get a new computer too does it support windows 3.1 Windows 10 goes out of service what.

[00:07:42] In january so I need to look to upgrade my computer too but one thing at a time one thing at a time.

[00:07:50] And this is more important, yeah, learn this thing and then and then worry about a computer, because this, like I’m assuming, like most computer radios, this one has wi-fi and it can hook onto your.

[00:08:01] It does not do wi-fi, oh really, yeah, it does have to be plugged in. That is one thing we’ve noticed amongst the other higher end radios: that they, they are bluetooth, I guess. I guess it’s bluetooth that.

[00:08:11] They do it on well ours has both bluetooth and wi-fi yeah this one does have a usb-c cable.

[00:08:18] That’s also the charging cable, which I really don’t mind too much because I know there’s not gonna be any missed bits in the translation, because it’s just going through the cable. Yeah, there’s checksums and stuff, so they know it’s okay. But I it’d be nice if I didn’t have to plug it in, but it’s not really bothering me. But you also didn’t spend two grand on it. No, I’ll be fair. This radio, I end up spending 650 on this. Yeah, so it’s considerably less. How many channels?

[00:08:49] It’s 24 channel, 24, yeah, 24 channel. It’s got enough buttons to kill a horse. It does have a lot of buttons. Yeah, I’m looking at it right now and yeah, there’s a lot of buttons. Get two extra trims beyond your normal four trims. So you got those plus you got pots, you got momentary buttons and they’re all I’m.

[00:09:08] Assuming they’re all because it’s so customizable they’re all assignable they can be all assigned.

[00:09:12] Whatever you want you can make them do whatever you want to do I think that’s pretty much standard.

[00:09:15] With most of the higher end radios because we can do that with ours too touch screen and when I.

[00:09:21] Say ours, I mean our spectrum. I access. Yeah, yeah, it’s touch screen as well, as nice, you can use the buttons as well. It’s whatever you feel like, and I’ve kind of got in a kind of a hybrid mode where I’ll touch screen some things and use the jog wheel on other things. Cool, you just kind of develop a pace, I guess. And the touch screen: nice, though touch screen is nice, having a touch screen, and

[00:09:42] I didn’t think I would when I first got that, my the ix 12, when I remember when I first got that and it was slaggy and laggy and all that, and then, yeah, I finally got a the ix 14 and, oh man, the touch screen.

[00:09:55] Is the way to go. Touch screens and my body chemistry don’t generally work very well. I get a lot of miss cues and so forth. Well, yeah, this has really been super, super accurate. Well, there’s a difference in.

[00:10:05] Types of touch screens too. I don’t remember what they are, but there’s one that doesn’t work nearly as well, yeah, and I think those have kind of gone by the wayside. More recently they were cheaper.

[00:10:14] Things. Yeah wonder if that’s what was in the ix 12s, because it would. I would touch it in one spot but it would register the yeah attack somewhere else. Yeah, and I’ve got a screen protector.

[00:10:24] On this one, so I was kind of thinking that might throw it off. No, it’s beautiful, it’s what works, great, nice. It’s. Took me six hours to program the first plane into it, first radio- well, a lot of.

[00:10:37] That was stop six hours though come on it’s his first time with the radio okay the big problem was.

[00:10:46] I was. If it was just a straight using a free sky receiver, it wouldn’t have been nearly that long, but I was using the add-on multi-module that goes on the back, oh, to allow it to speak other.

[00:10:56] Protocols it speaks to just about anything did you catch what I said there did you hear that.

[00:11:01] It sounded like I knew what I was talking about. Oh yes, I didn’t know what you meant. A majority of what I’ve got a program for right now are spectrum receivers, and it’s been working beautifully cool.

[00:11:12] Now will it? And I’m not asking to be a jerk or anything, because I honestly legit don’t know the answer to this, but so with the module that speaks dmss, whatever the spectrum protocol is, yeah, can you access the as3x on, like the newer receivers with it? So you said earlier it doesn’t.

[00:11:33] Do forward programming? It does not as it sits. There is a third party script that can be downloaded into it, third party app. Okay, that will allow you to do forward programming and as3x plus and then do whatever you want to do. Okay, I have not currently downloaded that into this radio. Okay, I just but.

[00:11:56] Fr3 sky whatever it is they have their own stabilized receivers though right yes so okay.

[00:12:02] Yeah, the only reason you would need the as3x programming app would be if you have a spectrum receiver that you’re using as a third party. That is something that is available to work. It is available to work in it and, like I said, I have no experience with it at this point, but I know it’s out there. Yeah, sweet. As far as stabilized receivers go, they offer quite a few different ones and different channel counts. This is also a twin protocol. It does 2.4 Gigahertz and 900 megahertz simultaneously- okay, at the same time, at the same time, and so if one is that legal in the states, no clue. I thought.

[00:12:38] The 900 megahertz stuff was oh your I didn’t think your old mobile phone was 900 megahertz.

[00:12:46] Okay, I’ll have to look that up because I because I remember reading somewhere that the 900 megahertz was kind of like the old days: certain frequencies were set aside for certain

[00:12:54] Things I thought I could be wrong. Yeah, yeah, it must have been cleared at some point, otherwise it wouldn’t be able to. Right exactly now, you can get in there and adjust the 900 megahertz output and you may be able to exceed what’s legal. That’s what it was. Yeah, the power like the- I forget what.

[00:13:12] It’s, and I don’t know what the power limits are, so forth. I haven’t messed with it. It’s all coming back to me because one of the other- one of the youtubers, I think it was lighter side- they did a. He did a comparison like of the radio master and the fr sky and all the transmitters and the radio master signal wise, like killed everybody, like it was. It could see air quotes over hills and through obstacles and stuff like that, but that’s because it was transmitting at 900 megahertz at a power level that was not technically legal. Yeah, so I gotcha. Okay, so that’s what.

[00:13:47] That okay so you went by cheating well right but so 900 megahertz is not the it’s not the.

[00:13:55] Problem? It’s the output. It’s the output. Okay, cool, it’s just a nice little backup. I’ve never had any real problems with the 2.4 In a congested area or anything that apparently some people I have especially like at big events and so forth. This has been. But it’s just a nice little backup. I know it’s there working in the background just in case something bad happens. Yep, and it’ll compare back and forth between the two and fix any issues. So have you? Have you flown anything with it? Yet what does it feel like? It’s a little bulkier, heavier than my dx9, of course, pretty much anything.

[00:14:27] These days is heavier yeah the dx radios were light like comparatively speaking even to our ix’s.

[00:14:34] There wasn’t much in them. Well, that’s true compared to you. I mean just a battery, and that’s that’s majority of your weight. That’s true. Was that rechargeable, even with those double a’s dx? Yeah, it’s rechargeable, it’s. I can remember where the, where that came in to, where it went from the four double

[00:14:49] Lays all the way out my dx8 has rechargeables in it my first gen I couldn’t remember what mine was.

[00:14:54] It’s got a LiPo in it, even. Okay, I think mine’s a life, I think, yeah, life. Yeah, it’s a lithium battery of some sort, but I don’t think it’s a LiPo. Same for this one. Yes, yeah, but you’ve not flown.

[00:15:08] Anything with it yet not anything yet because we haven’t had great weather and the weather’s been.

[00:15:11] Pretty bad and I’ve been extremely busy. Are you excited to fly your first? Oh yeah, I’m just itching. It’s like, okay, what’s? I was thinking it’s like man, what’s the weather like today? We’re about to.

[00:15:19] Throw something in the air. I was thinking, oh man, I totally should have brought the terry dunkel you should have, man, I almost did too, but oh well, yeah, it’s kind of rainy and so what airplane.

[00:15:32] Are you gonna fly first with it? Whatever I can grab? Well, what’s what’s programmed? Already? I have a majority of aircraft that are living in the house in it, a lot of you. Everything in there currently is electric. There’s no gas or glow in it currently. I tried to put a glow plane in it and that’s the one. I did have one receiver that refused to talk to it and it was an older spectrum, six channel, I can’t remember six, thirty six, I don’t know. It’s an older spectrum and for some reason it wouldn’t talk to it. Yet I had another one of those in another electric plane and it worked.

[00:16:05] Just fine so there must be something off with that particular receiver yeah it just happened to be the.

[00:16:10] One that was in my glow. I was going to try if that’s the difference between dsm and dsm2. It was. It was a dmsx. Oh, that’s the new one, newish one, I don’t know. There’s probably something wrong with.

[00:16:20] That particular receiver. Regardless, we’re good. I’m thinking probably something umx, just in case I have a dumb thumb incident, but it all looks good. So what does it take? What does it take to set?

[00:16:35] This up to like let’s say you buy an e-flight umx bind and fly whatever like a waco maybe yeah.

[00:16:43] That’s the first thing I programmed into. It was the waco. How neat. It’s actually not bad at all. It’s programmed exactly like a spectrum, as far as you have to tell it what switch to use, you have to flip the five times, or whatever it is. The only real programming difference between this and using a spectrum was you have to get into the transmitter, the transmitter side of it, and turn on the external module, which is the multi-module. You have to turn it on and then you

[00:17:18] Have to tell it what protocol it should be using and that’s the only reason is that part of like the.

[00:17:23] Binding process or pre-binding process yeah and then once you’re into that then you hit the bind.

[00:17:26] Button. Oh okay, it is super, super simple to do. You just hit the airplane button. You go over here rf system and you’ve got internal modules. You don’t want that because this is using a spectrum receiver. You’ve got the external module. You’ve pushed that button. Oops, it was already down, so you push that. State is currently on, because it was well. I don’t know what I just did. I just bumped the screen, so we’ll have to fix that. We’ll just hit the return button. I don’t know why it crashed.

[00:17:58] And then you have to tell it’s spectrum, and then what protocol? And then, as after you do that, you just go down here and click the bind button, which, there it is, now it’s binding. So I wonder how.

[00:18:09] That works with the. The newer spectrum receivers that have the airplane programming in the receiver should be pretty simple. Probably doesn’t. I wouldn’t think doesn’t work with them or there’s no.

[00:18:20] Difference. I wouldn’t think there would be and once again just talking out because I have no clue, but I wouldn’t think that would give you the information from the receiver onto that radio. Yeah, I don’t think.

[00:18:29] It could it won’t be able to download it no telemetry but the receiver no not telemetry I’m talking.

[00:18:34] About I don’t think when you bind to it’s going to say hey here it is so yeah you will have to.

[00:18:41] Manually program it like you would before that ever came along. But and then when it comes to the as3x settings it uses- whether it’s pre-built into it- yeah, if it’s bind and fly, it just lives on the plane. Yeah, all my as3x stuff works exactly like it did with spectrum radio. Yeah, I just can’t get in there and adjust it at this point. If I wanted to, I could download that program and free party app. Yeah, yeah, cool. But I don’t see any reason to do that at this point because everything I’ve ever had with as3x and it’s worked pretty good for that particular airplane. Yeah, it’s for when you’re setting up.

[00:19:13] Something from scratch not something that bind and fly or something like that what I do.

[00:19:17] I have one airplane that I can think of that would need that and that would be the slow stick with the flaps I put on it, where I have as3x only working on one aileron. Yep, that could technically need be programmed once again. I could bring it to you guys if I don’t want to install this, yeah, you guys.

[00:19:37] Can do that, and then they would know what to do with it. And I think, oh no, as I say on the on that receiver, I mean, if you still have the spectrum programmer app on your computer, you can still program it that way. But I don’t think you can, I don’t think you can use the programmer app for the.

[00:19:52] Newer ones no it doesn’t work because I’m through forward programming yep yeah okay well maybe.

[00:19:58] That’s something that. So, yes, I should probably download that to have it on here for that particular situation, but that’s the only thing I can think of that I’m going to need it for, so I can’t wait.

[00:20:08] Till you fly your first plane with it see what the see how it feels like the response so.

[00:20:13] We’re going to start with simple cheap stuff and move our way up cool it means so dave likes his new.

[00:20:20] Radio and you have it’s handsome like, it’s a handsome trend, like I’m holding it in my hands right now and it’s it feels good, it’s a good looking, it feels nice. Dave said that the gimbals: you can actually kind of rotate them a little bit, so like if you’re a thumb pilot like me, you don’t always pull straight down- maybe so you can actually kind of rotate the gimbals to match your. Oh, that would be which I think that’d be, I mean, might be something worth looking into if you do that.

[00:20:48] You’re not going to be comfortable flying any other plane on any other radio if you’re used to that. Well, that’s true. But yeah, like that’s the one thing it’s nice about having some standardization to.

[00:20:57] But if you’re- if you’re like you, you don’t fly anyone else’s planes, so you don’t really have to worry about that. It happens sometimes, but it does have custom call outs and all that kind of stuff too, right? Yes, yes, I like the screen up high. Yeah, like that. That’s kind of cool, and the dimming function is pretty sweet too. I’m a little worried about glare bouncing back in my eyes because

[00:21:18] I sit and fly. I don’t hold it, yeah, yeah, so I’m a little worried about that. I might have to get a cloth or something that I could velcro across it, or something or get. Maybe you can find one of.

[00:21:27] Those matte I think they call them matte screen protectors where they just they don’t reflect.

[00:21:31] Yeah, I think you’ll be okay, because if worse comes worse, you can always just adjust your hands. Yeah, I can try to five degrees a little bit. That’s all it’s going to take. I mean, all the buttons are.

[00:21:41] Metal. There’s no plastic buttons. I was just going to say the feel of it. It feels to me, it feels like it’s quality. It doesn’t feel like a toy, no, it definitely has a good quality feel to it. And I noticed, after holding my 14 and your 20 Ron, that I went back and I did something in my shop the other day. I was moving my dx8 around and I picked up my dx8 and I was like man, this thing.

[00:22:03] Feels like a toy now after holding these nice trans yeah the dx9 just is like this thing’s so flimsy.

[00:22:09] Let’s remember, they are all toys. Well, that’s just saying, that’s true. But you what I’m saying? Yeah, it felt like a not a hobby grade transmitter, but yeah, it feels good, dave, I like I’m, I’m happy for you and I can’t wait for you to fly with somebody else to try to see how they.

[00:22:24] Like to feel to it: oh, I’ll for sure take a. Take a pull on it, take a spin, yeah, yeah, cool. So with custom call outs, dave did program one. For some reason I found it necessary, but I was just.

[00:22:39] Playing around seeing if I could do it and this is what his left rear oh the volume’s turned down on.

[00:22:49] Oh, where’s the? Oh? It’s right there. Okay, Ron is indeed, wow, a winner. Is that what it said? Ron is a winner. No, I think the term was weenie.

[00:23:03] Oh see it must not be able to read very well because I’m sure it says winner.

[00:23:09] Well, like I said, I’m very excited for dave. I know he’s been super, super stoked about getting this thing and now he’s finally got it in his hot little hands. And so far, judging by the smile on,

[00:23:19] His face I’d say he likes it. Yeah, I’ve gotten really super comfortable with it. The first couple of planes were a little struggle bus, but six and a half hours- what do they call it? The?

[00:23:29] All the videos on youtube university youtube university without youtube university I’d still be.

[00:23:35] Trying to figure out the first plane. But yeah, my biggest problem on the first airplane reason took six hours as I was trying. You’re supposed to install the, the script, into a certain file folder and there was no file folder to put it into. It didn’t say anywhere that I had to create this file folder. Once I created the file folder, two minutes later everything was up and running.

[00:23:54] Dave, the reason you had trouble with that is the same reason I would have had trouble with that. We’re old, yeah, like the newer generations, they would have understood that, probably right off the file folder. Yeah, because that’s what they are familiar with. We just

[00:24:08] We’re old yeah all the youtube university just assumed that was already on there.

[00:24:13] Yeah so am I supposed to argue like okay because I right I feel like I beat you to the.

[00:24:19] Punch on that one. I wasn’t even thinking that, oh, I’ve gotten a lot about things and now I’ve owned some expensive stuff over the years, but as far as one time one purchase, this is the most expensive one single item I’ve ever purchased. Congratulations, so welcome to being an adult.

[00:24:34] Adult. Yes, awesome, if she have cars then, yeah, yes, this coffee is good. By the way, you should tell crystal I will later tell her. All right, so what’s next? Dave, thanks for bringing that in. I’m glad I got to take away. I can’t- I seriously can’t- wait to you fly with it. Yeah, yeah, I’m still itching to do it. It’s like let’s, let’s get some weather. Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, it’s supposed to rain and blow for the next. I mean, it’s spring in illinois. We go through this every spring. Doesn’t make it any easier, it’s.

[00:25:07] Not windy, it’s raining. If it’s not raining or windy, it’s, it’s freezing, whatever. You just never know what you’re gonna get here. Yep, but you guys were able to find a nice day to fly. We did nice segue. Well done, he bought a segue. So we did Ron and I took last weekend, which doesn’t mean much to our listeners, took some time, but recently, yeah, we went and did a day’s worth of maidens went to our

[00:25:38] Favorite field? Eli, I’m speaking for Ron, but it’s my favorite field, which is in monticello. I’m assuming it’s your favorite field also. Yes, should I not assume? I mean, no, that’s fine, but I

[00:25:50] That made no sense the way you said that but okay well I said our favorite and then I said well I.

[00:25:56] Shouldn’t speak for Ron, because I don’t know if that’s indeed your favorite, so I shouldn’t speak for you. That’s what I was trying to say, it is, how’s that sound? Okay, okay, but yeah, nine made- not successful nine maidens in one day. That beats our previous day’s worth of maidens by two. See, I’m

[00:26:15] Glad you remembered that, because I could not remember. I mean, I remember I just went back on our facebook page. Oh, because we posted last time. Okay, that it was. I guess I should have done that too to figure out what those seven were, because I saw you posted that seven was the last one I was.

[00:26:28] Like what do we made in seven yeah just go back to I figured when it was last year sometime but yeah.

[00:26:34] Nine successful maidens. So you want me to start then, since I’ll be quicker. You have your, okay, sure? Other things that you’re more excited about, and you’ll be able to spin a yarn, you’ll tell a tale, you’ll let us know how everything went. So I took four airplanes. The freewing f-35 that I just picked up in toledo was top of the list. Then I was also on the way out looking around here for planes that I had that hadn’t flown yet, because which there’s a bunch, that’s not a bunch. There’s a several. But

[00:27:11] As I was looking around, I saw that I saw the fms f-18 that I got last year that I hadn’t flown, and the small goldberg chipmunk that we both bought chipmunks: you assembled yours, you flew yours. You sold yours.

[00:27:28] Mine has sat since like a year, since you’ve sold yours, but it was all put together we, we did it at the same time, I think, right, yeah, anyway. So I ended up throwing that in the car too. And then I had the, the new hanger nine cub that I had to get a maiden on. So because, because I needed to get it maiden before we went to joe and all pictures anyway. So f-35, I think, was the first one I did.

[00:27:59] No, no, f-22 was the first one I did, so that was low on my list of being worried about, right, is that how I went? Let’s just say the timeline doesn’t matter, because I can’t remember what was first. So f-13 or f-18 was one that I didn’t mind not liking or crashing. Hold on back up. I said f-22, you didn’t.

[00:28:20] Take it that’s the f-22. I’m sorry, f-18 is what. I’m okay there. That’s why I was giving you the look because, forgive me then, I don’t remember seeing an f-22 in your pile of airplanes. That one, all the f-22.

[00:28:29] Almost went with me, but I had flown it already. So the f-18, so the f-18 fms 8 f-18 is the one that I took and that was the first one that I flew because, like I said, it was hanging downstairs. It hangs next to my x-fly f-18. They usually look pretty good together, but I didn’t mind not re-hanging that one up if something stupid happened. Does that make sense? It does so. It took that, not being sure how it was gonna fly, and I’m very impressed, like I didn’t want to like that airplane because I kind

[00:29:04] Wanted to get rid of it just there’s a few things on it that I’m not too fond of but it flies really.

[00:29:09] Well, it really does look like. It may not look great up close because of the inaccuracies of the yeah of the design, but in those intakes, yeah, but in the air it looks fantastic. Yeah, and it’s funny.

[00:29:22] The intakes don’t bother me as much as the rear, the rear stabilizers. Yeah, the stabs are not full flying stabs. On the fms they have elevators and it’s just like no, but in the air it looks fantastic and it flies. It’s flat good. I enjoyed that one a lot. I think I got two or three flights on that one that day. Then the other one, I think my next one was the f-35- yes, yeah, which also

[00:29:52] Flew very nicely. Yeah, once I got the rates turned down and got it dialed in, it flew much, much better. One of the things that I don’t like about the f-18: there’s no rudders. The f-35, being the little bit bigger, 70 millimeter fan, has rudders and has everything on it that you would want: rudder, yeah, retractable gear and stuff. So it. No, no flaps, okay. So I got a couple flights on.

[00:30:22] That’s a good one too. The first landing was a little bit iffy because I tried to use the rudder, which apparently I had set up too high, and as soon as I hit it, oh yeah, yeah, I remember now- it like went off to the side and almost stalled and it was not very pretty, but I got it down, no,

[00:30:40] Harm, no foul. Yeah, it was so startling that I even asked you. I think, was that you? Yeah, because it looked like a, like an old school 72 megahertz radio hit is what I’m saying, get hard, glitch with it. Nope, it was.

[00:30:51] All me it was. It was the rudder was set up at too high of a rate and not enough expo got all that dialed in, though, like I said, the other flight or two- I don’t remember how many I had on it- I think landing was. Landing was very good. Yeah, and it’s a fun plane to fly for four minutes. It looks good in the sky too. Yeah, I think the next one I flew was the goldberg chipmunk. I think that one was the one I was most nervous about because you did not like yours. You didn’t like the way yours flew so much.

[00:31:27] That you got rid of it after you flew it a couple times, and so I had that in the back of my mind, that this is not going to be a good flying airplane. But apparently there was something different between the version one- I guess is what you had- and I had the updated version two or whatever. However, that worked because there were some differences in ours. Yeah, yeah, construction.

[00:31:45] Wise. Yeah, mine was still brushless powered, but it was a gearbox arrangement. Yours is direct drive, and I believe there was some small differences, like the way the airframe was put together too, like you had more room to get a battery in and out, mine you had to finagle. Yeah, exactly so, yeah, my hatch.

[00:32:02] Came off differently than yours. I think you actually had a latch. Yes, I didn’t have a latch on mine. It was pretty sure it was all magnetized on, I don’t remember anymore but anyway. So I was a little bit more concerned about that one. No problems whatsoever. I mean, that thing flew slow, that thing flew well, even with a little bit of crosswind. So that’s one that will definitely be staying because it’s easy to store. It’s small, flies good, looks good. I enjoyed that one. It does yours looks, look it flies way better than

[00:32:35] Mine did yeah and I don’t know I mean I’m sure I probably could have gotten mine to that point you.

[00:32:40] Know with tinkering and stuff, but yeah, well, if you have the issues where you can’t get a battery in easily, you can’t right. There’s just some things on an airplane that’s kind of a deal breaker, yeah, and not worth keeping. When they update an airplane, there’s a reason, exactly. Yeah, right, there’s, and mine was.

[00:32:55] Noisy like mine. I mean it’s probably the gearbox. Yeah, it was for sure the gearbox, but when you, when you would pull the throttle back, just like the I don’t know, dave, if you remember the f15s you built for us, remember those were gearboxes and when you would pull the throttle back, they would make that weird kind of chattery wine noise and it was just. It was just really annoying. Plus, yeah, that, along with the, the pain of getting the battery in and out of the front of it, was enough for me to move on. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, I mean, it’s a very pretty airplane. Yeah, both of them.

[00:33:28] So anyway sorry no I’m glad I’m glad I finally got around to flying that so you’re going to keep.

[00:33:32] That one. Now, it’s not an unknown. Yeah, I don’t have any reason because I would like to fly yours. Just to compare: I offered, I know, but I didn’t. It was a maiden. Well, there was a fully charged battery.

[00:33:43] Afterwards I thought I offered you, but maybe I didn’t. Maybe I thought about it and something else happened and I forgot to. It doesn’t matter, there will be other days, trust me. And then the last one I made in that day was the hangar nine cub that I wish we had video of that. Oh god, that, why did?

[00:33:58] I? Why did it not even occur to me? Like I was standing right next to you, like why did I not? Why? Because it’s a cub, because I wasn’t expecting it to be a non-issue.

[00:34:09] Exactly, but it almost. It was very exciting. It was. I can’t. I can’t believe how many things actually went through my mind in the amount of time. What it could have been. More than one or two seconds, two seconds maybe, right. So there was a bit of a crosswind. There was apparently a decent crosswind. It was a significant crosswind and as soon on the maiden, as soon as it broke ground, one of the wings tipped. I don’t remember. You might have to walk me through some of this, because it all happened so fast.

[00:34:41] Dropped the right wing. Okay, we’re taking off from left to right in front of us and the wind was pretty much right in our faces, right across the runway. And as soon as the gear came off the ground, it dropped the right wing and headed for the bushes. Well, it turned like I mean it made a 90 degree turn away from us. So it was going after it dropped the right wing first, headed for the bushes- you corrected with the rudder snap, rolled it essentially because we had too much rudder dropped the left wing and that’s when it turned. And it’s still over like the middle of the runway, and now it’s turning.

[00:35:14] 90 Degrees like to the runway going away from us and you chop the throttle I’m like no you got it go.

[00:35:21] Go, go well. And so in my mind, the way it happened, like I saw that it kind of leveled out and so I’m just going to land it back down and be okay, it was not. It had no forward airspeed. Well, that’s why I was going to land. The score is stall, no, but I’m saying before it did its turn to the left. So my brain was a little bit behind when I cut the throttle, because as soon as it kind of started to fluctuate back and forth, I figured: cut the throttle, land. Then my mind went eight different places and then as soon as I saw it, with no throttle, three feet in the air maybe, yes, facing sideways, and I still think it was going.

[00:35:58] Away from us, not actually flying forward. It was like flying sideways because of momentum. It had no forward momentum. I just throttled out of it and luckily that’s a cub, that’s 82 and a half inch wingspan or whatever, with a 6s 5000 battery in it. Right, it had the horsepower to pull itself out. It has, yeah, yes, plenty of horsepower. So after, but it was very, very exciting after- I about shit- my pants, that was, can’t say that crap myself. Whatever, sorry, after that happened, everything else is actually.

[00:36:32] Pretty good it’s it’s a cub it’s a cub my next takeoff beautiful was perfect so even the landing.

[00:36:38] Was good yeah like that landing after that horrific takeoff was fine I think I’m glad there’s no video.

[00:36:45] Because, oh my gosh, I like I for setting purposes. Yes, it would have been nice, but yeah, yeah, I think you get in your head that it’s just a cub. It flies easy, it flies all that kind of stuff. I’m sure that’s.

[00:36:56] Why I didn’t whip out my phone? Yeah, because I’ve recorded the first takeoff of vrf35 35 you did. Yeah, which you were you were saddened by because it was a non-event. Yeah, it was, it was, it was not nearly.

[00:37:07] As exciting as the cub but I’m sitting there’s a recurring theme over this weekend with Ron and.

[00:37:12] Rudders, yeah, using them, using them too much, or like having them, having them set up a little bit too much, yeah, and then the f-18 without a rudder, right, that was. Yeah, that was painful, yeah, and yeah, I was.

[00:37:28] Watching. I think, yeah, you were flying the f-18. I was watching you fly it and I saw you, which is a testament to you. You’re learning. You’re feeding in rudder with your turns and coordinating them. Now, although there’s just no rudder on there, it doesn’t do anything, even though you were feeding.

[00:37:44] It in we all do that I know I’m over here trying to bend my left stick over and nothing’s happening.

[00:37:49] Because there’s no rudder. Yeah, well, that was. I forgot one of the landings with the f-18. I ended up about five feet farther over than I was planning on being because I had no rudder to correct it right, and that was another one of those last minute. Do I throttle up and try and not land in the tall grass, or just it’s not going to get hurt? Yeah, let it flop. So instead of landing in the short grass, I just had no way of correcting it, bringing it out because it was about to touch down and so I didn’t want to get the wings off level and lose lift and all that kind of stuff going slow, so I was.

[00:38:21] Like it’ll be all right sure enough it was yep just plopped right in yeah so it was a fun day.

[00:38:26] Though for me we got a lot of maidens on my airplanes in yeah lots of successful day lots but at least.

[00:38:32] Elevated heart rate on one of them, a cub of all aircraft, cub of all who just thunk it. And so what? What did we determine was the? The factor in that ugly takeoff was the crosswind combined with.

[00:38:46] The rudder and the over correction problem, or probably also. Yeah, so I turned the throws down on the rudder, which I think I’m going to turn it back up, okay, and then probably add a lot of expo because, like you need full rudder deflection for taxing. Yeah, like I cannot make a 180 degree turn, yep, from one side of the runway to the other on low rates- and that’s a good size runway too, you should.

[00:39:12] Be able to 50 feet wide yeah so yeah just add a lot of expo yeah that’s my takeaway that was my day.

[00:39:21] Nice, four successful maidens and now you and I had five. So I took, I took five airplanes with me that day. So I’m just going to preface this by saying I was not planning. Honest to goodness, I was not planning on maintaining the ranger. I really wasn’t. The lie detector test determined that was a lie. No, that’s not a lie. You can even ask lori based on the text I received beforehand. So the text. So I did some research on the ama website and I you can in fact fly a turbine powered airplane. Good job.

[00:39:58] Without a waiver, and you can do this by having a licensed or a wavered turbine pilot on a buddy box with you. Yeah, so I texted you the night before, a couple nights before. I was like hey, by the way, I don’t know if this or not, but according to the ama, I could fly my jet if somebody that’s wavered can do the buddy box with me. And you were like, yeah, yeah, that’s seems, seems accurate, or whatever, and didn’t? You probably didn’t think another thing about it. No, I so in my mind, I, I

[00:40:32] Saw that and I was like, yeah, I know that’s true because that’s how I was flying before I had my waiver with people to learn how to do it right. There’s no difference in that. I’m just in the different position, even though right, not really experienced. And so, like I said, I knew that and as soon as I saw that, I was like I know his plans for tomorrow, so I don’t normally beat around the bush.

[00:40:55] Like I’m. I usually am to the point, and if I wanted you to get on the buddy box with me so that I could fly my jet, I would have come right out and asked you: hey, would you mind doing this? I never did that. I never came right out and asked you if you would do it. I know so. It was not my plan. My plan was I knew you were going to be at the field and I wanted to get. I had not run it yet, like I hadn’t even fueled it yet before I got to the field. So my in my head, I took the jet because I wanted to do its first run and I knew you would be there to record it. Because I’ve said

[00:41:30] From day one, the first run. I want someone to record it so that we can put it on the our facebook page or on our web page or whatever. So that’s why, that’s why I loaded the jet in the car, that’s why I put fuel in the jug. That’s, that was my. That was all I was expecting was just to run it and for someone- you- to record it so that we could put it out there. Okay, having said that, got to the field. Five, five new airplanes. I think dave was sleeping. Oh yeah, he opened his eyes. I put dave to sleep. I’m.

[00:42:06] Not sure how I feel about that. That’s kind of hurt. It hurts a little bit but that’s okay. So the five airplanes I took, I bought the, the umx timber x at the toledo, took that to fly. I took that su27 jet that we picked up or that I picked up in milwaukee, milwaukee, the cap that I- I forgot to mention this in the last episode, but I bought that samson rc hobby shop cap 231 in the splat scheme.

[00:42:41] I thought you said something about that. I, I think I totally. Yeah, you guys skipped it, daniel. Daniel bought the big stick from them as well. Yeah, at any rate, have that assembled and ready to fly. I said: welcome back, dave. And then I took the terry dunkel to fly, and then, obviously, I took the jet to run. So, yeah, I started with the umx, timber x. I mean, can you really call that a maiden? They fly.

[00:43:09] Out of the box like if you do the binding all technicalities yes only because of technicality.

[00:43:15] Right, and of course it flew. Great. Lucky expected it to fly. Yeah, yeah, it was a good flying. It’s got big, big for a umx. It has huge control surfaces. Yeah, yeah, it’s like super, super agile, I guess, would be the word. So that’s going to be a lot of fun when I put the floats on it, when we take it to what did you call it home? All that flow, paul, paul, paul. So that was a non-event. The su 27 was up next, loaded up the 4s 2200, I think in that one- and flew it off the wheels first, just because.

[00:43:51] It’s a maiden, even though I’ve got the 631 as3x plus with the hand launch and all that kind of stuff, flew it off the wheels. Another non-event: flies, flies, fine, the wheels really well, we’ll talk about that. They’re noisy, aren’t they? They’re noisy, yeah, terrible. It’s like they’re hard plastic and like when you land it sounds like you’re crashing. It sounds like a kid in a power wheel. Yeah, yeah. And the next airplane, the cap same. Oh yeah, that one’s even worse. Yeah, like it. It’s almost like.

[00:44:24] A drum where it just reverberates inside right it’s terrible so I’m gonna replace it built up.

[00:44:29] Yeah, I’m gonna replace the wheels on the cab with some dubro ones, which I think will help that, and it’s mostly the tail wheel on that airplane. It’s, it’s like plastic. It’s not even like a rubbery, yeah, it’s just hard plastic. So but anyway, they flew the cap after the su 27. It flies really, really nice. I’ve got some figuring out to do. I don’t think the CG is located accurately in the manual, because it flies to me. It flies tail heavy, like it ratchets, and when I say ratchets I mean when you pull back.

[00:45:03] The elevator. It kind of does this weird stall thing and then recovers and then stalls and then- and the faster the airplane is going, the faster the ratchets are- yeah, so I think it’s a little tail. You’re stalling the tail, but I never actually performed the inverted 45 degree hands-off test. I’m going to do that on the next flight, but I have a feeling that it’s it’s tail heavy, which is disappointing to me because the thing is already eight pounds and I wanted it to be around seven and a half. So if I have to add nose weight, that’s going to make me even more disappointed.

[00:45:34] Yeah, but I may there. There may be something there that can save me, because the radio tray has two holes in it for the servos. The servos are mounted in the tail but there is provisions, it looks like, in the airframe. You can move them. That’ll make a huge difference. Yeah, so pending the outcome of my CG test flight, I may move those around, but otherwise keep the throws down and keep the maneuvers kind of to a minimum. It flew great. Plenty of power, like it has plenty, oh power. That’s kind of one of those innovative- I mean, this is the name of the.

[00:46:11] Company. A badass motor, the b4520 dash. Innovative designs, yeah, plenty of power, no shortage of power, so I’m happy with that power combo with my avian, the 130 amp speed control, nice, yep. So yeah, no crash. There took the terry dunkel up next man. What a nice flying airplane, terry. If you’re listening, you nailed it like and you’re right like: keep it light. Okay, I can imagine, had I tried to fly.

[00:46:45] My terry dunkel at three pounds probably wouldn’t be nearly as well we probably wouldn’t be having.

[00:46:50] This conversation no it would have been seven maidens or eight maidens and a crash yeah but no what a.

[00:46:58] What a nice flying airplane it really. I mean I’m thinking you should probably market these terry, if you’re listening. And then last was the, was the jet, the, the unexpected maiden? So we got to the field and, like I’m bringing the jet out and I’m not sure I got there just a little bit before you did so I may have still been assembling it, I think when you got there and then, as most jets do, when you’re putting them together, people come over and see what you’re up to and see what you got.

[00:47:29] Or whatever. And miguel alvarez was there from horizon. He’s a very experienced- I would consider a very experienced- jet pilot. He’s like: hey, you got two licensed wavered turbine pilots here. Do you want to? Do you want to fly it? And of course I said, yeah. Well, yeah, I sure do. I mean I was gonna just run it, but yeah, I mean, if I can run it and fly it, why not? So miguel was nice enough to jump on the body box with me and let me do the maiden. He did help me out with the trim, which I greatly

[00:48:00] Appreciate, but it was. It was really kind of a- I mean, as far as jets go, I would consider that a non-event. It flew, it flew, great flew, the way it was supposed to. Yeah, I thought I would be more nervous, honestly, like I really did, like I was telling laurie, I thought I would have the shakes and just be super, super nervous, but I wasn’t. It’s really odd. Like I was more.

[00:48:24] Nervous flying the cap than I was the jet, which is odd. That is weird. So for me, like when I did the maiden solo and all that stuff on mine, I was very nervous because I knew I’m not replacing, that I have no plans on buying another jet at this time. You do so. That’s the difference. Well, but you’ve got.

[00:48:41] Another one in the pipeline, but I mean just an airframe like it. Didn’t you get the cost of another turbine, provided the one that crashes doesn’t make it through the crash? I get it. So I mean it would be time and lots of more cash to so. I mean that thought did occur to me. I mean this is a lot of money rolling down the runway, but I was never. I’d never had the like. I never. I wasn’t as nervous as I was expecting to be. Yeah, probably because I had the reassurance.

[00:49:18] That had an experienced pilot. Oh yeah, just a button release away from getting me out of trouble. So, at any rate, yeah, five successful maidens. Well, four plus an unexpected one. We’ll call it that, but it was five successful maidens. Yeah, no, that’s good. Everything went well, I’m. I’m happy. Yeah, we. Unfortunately we ran out of time and daylight and it was starting to get pretty windy there towards the end of the day. Yeah, that was so we decided not to push our luck with trying to do the

[00:49:48] The waiver flights which I’m totally fine with yeah I think you’re you’re in good shape though I.

[00:49:53] Mean. You’ve had a lot of time on edf’s. You’ve had a lot of time on high performance type airplanes. You just have a few things you have to get into your head. That’s different with the turbine, and after that you’ll be fine. Yeah, don’t let it get too slow. Don’t like it too slow more.

[00:50:07] Importantly, turn off the fuel tank. Oh right, yeah, turn the turn the fuel off before you’re trying to refuel it or do anything, unless it’s running, and don’t forget to turn it back on when you’re.

[00:50:16] Trying to start it I’m not gonna say I haven’t done that yeah because yeah I had the same thing.

[00:50:21] It’s like: why is it not starting? And then, oh yeah, they’re like: did you turn it on? No, sure, didn’t. Ah, crap, but what a lot of fun. Yeah, that was a fun day and the jet fly is great. Yeah, I’m sorry you.

[00:50:35] Won’t have your turbine waiver before joe and all, but it’s okay. Yeah, I’m not something to look forward to when we come back exactly, yeah, and I got all summer, so, yeah, it’ll happen very.

[00:50:48] Quickly it’s been flown pressures off. Yeah, exactly, I know it flies, I know it flies good and man, I mean if I, if I could say it, I nailed the landing like the landing was. I wish you could. Well, you can see it. We got video of it. Yeah, I did, I nailed the lane. Sorry I missed it guys, but breezed it right.

[00:51:07] In it was I mean it wasn’t on the center line or anything but it was cool oh of course had a crosswind.

[00:51:13] So I was compensating. You did a good job, you really did. I mean it’s. Yeah, I was flying from ear to ear at the at the end of that. So, and I did, I told I think I told you I figured out the brake issue. Yeah, you had settings right on the radio. Yeah, easy fix. Yeah. So I’m looking forward to flying it again when we get back from null, nice, but from here to joe, no, we’ve got work to do. Yeah, we’re going to start.

[00:51:43] On that right after this as a matter of fact we got some trailer work to finish up to make the.

[00:51:50] Inaugural journey with the trailer to joe and all. That’ll be the first time it’s had airplanes in it for hauling and all that kind of stuff. It’s gonna be nice. The trailer’s gonna be sick when it’s done. We ended up taking so far. We’ve taken all the plywood out of the inside, we have insulated the whole thing. Ceiling walls, did the electrical for the lights on the ceiling, did the electrical for the lights on the outside, and that’s about it right now. So our next step is to put the actual

[00:52:20] Walls up which will be here in hopefully a few minutes and we’ll go from there yeah you can put.

[00:52:28] An awning on it. I was thinking I mean maybe eventually, but not right now. Yeah, I was, I forget when it wasn’t yesterday, but one of these days recently I was thinking, man, it might not be a bad idea to put it up. The problem with putting an awning on those trailers is the door goes all the way to the top. So when the door is open and if the awning’s down the corner of the door, they put a roller on top of the door. Yeah, but then that’s still something contacting the awning which provides a place for it to see: yeah, get worn out and stuff and yeah, and that too. So but anyway, either that or an easy up next to it would be just as easy. Well, just so happens, I know somebody has a really good.

[00:53:02] Looking easy up who I’ve seen yours- no, I would. I would buy my own. I know I have another one too. That’s basic thing. That’s a better one actually, we. So we would actually be a lot farther along on the work that we did yesterday had it not been for my cheapness- and I do actually regret it- so long.

[00:53:26] Story short, but now that it’s done, do you, though? I mean yeah, because we’ve been so much farther along, yeah, but you saved yourself a fair amount of cash by doing it the way we did.

[00:53:35] Did. But I mean, time has to be worth something. But we’re not so far behind. That’s true, I guess. But long story short, I had a pallets of foam that I had gotten to insulate my shop. I have since decided for insulation on my on the shop ceiling that I’m just gonna actually buy house insulation, so I don’t need this foam anymore. And, like I said, there’s some that are inch and a half tall, there’s some that are four inch thick foam, two foot by four foot pieces, and so I decided just to just a hot.

[00:54:08] Wire the thickness of these down. It worked, but there was a lot of downtime while you’re waiting for it to cut. Yeah, but luckily there were two of us working. Yeah, I mean, we, we did a lot yesterday, yeah, so you came out, but you were supposed to be out at seven. Yes, in the morning, yes, and so I know you like to get places early, so I was actually out in the shop at six. Well, I wasn’t planning on being here that early, well I know, but I still wanted to at least get some things organized and ready, so we

[00:54:44] Could actually get to work, and I didn’t come in last night till a little bit after seven, so, with the exception of 20 minutes for lunch and 20 minutes for dinner, yeah, so you were. It was a 13 hour day.

[00:54:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah, long, long less for me. It was more like 10 for me, because that’s a lot, because I had to go home and get lunch and take care of poppy and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, it was a good it.

[00:55:06] Was a productive day. I will. I think I will be excited to get this done and loaded and go. Oh, the other thing completely forgot: I ordered the new battery for my golf cart. That will be here tuesday. So I went with a lithium ion 36 volt or lithium- whatever they’re called- lithium, ish, life po4, whatever that one is, I think is what it was. So that’ll be here tuesday. It’s a single 36 volt battery with charger.

[00:55:34] Yeah, with charger, with the voltage regulator- so I still have headlights and all that stuff. Take it down to 12 volts. There’s something else in there. Oh, it comes with a handy little fuel gauge that you can mount on the nice, on the dash. That’ll actually be really handy. Even more handy, which is- maybe this is stupid, I don’t know, but I think it’s kind of cool- has its own app so you can actually look in there to see what charge it’s at, how long, if you’re charging it, how long.

[00:56:02] It’s going to take to charge of course it has an app and all that kind of stuff yeah excited about it.

[00:56:06] That’s kind of neat. So it’s only supposed to take like five hours to charge from dead. Oh so I don’t think that’s bad. Yeah, that’s considering, I think was it the year before last? Yeah, the first year we took the golf cart down and it had brand new batteries. We put it on charge one night and it was like I want to say it was 11 or 12 hours later it still wasn’t, yeah, fully charged. Yeah, it took a while.

[00:56:30] Yeah, so I’ll be getting rid of those batteries. They’ll be gone, no more, be gone with you. No more lead acid, battery weight and all that kind of stuff. So we’ll. Oh yeah, this battery will be lighter too, so

[00:56:41] That’ll make it even more efficient so good all around so and this should last a lot longer than.

[00:56:47] Two years, because buying batteries every two years is kind of sad. Yeah, that it hurts. Well. Granted, though, the batteries that are in it are still good enough for around here, but they are not going to last long enough for the day’s use. We need it, joe. No, yeah, I said it again, but anyway, it made a lot of trips too.

[00:57:06] Yeah, like we. Yeah, we put a lot of miles. Yeah, I think we figured it was like 35 ish a day, I think it was something like that. Yeah, which is surprising, but yeah, you do a lot by the well, where we were.

[00:57:17] Camped that first year and it wasn’t nearly as long last year, that’s true. Because of where we were, we were camped out, but being all the way down by the 3d line and having to go all the way down past the 3d line around the end of the runway and then another mile up or so to get to the lines we were at and stuff, yeah, it adds up quick. A lot of time too wasted just sitting on the golf cart going back and forth. So yeah, yeah, cool, that’ll be good. So, yeah, we’re gonna finish up some more on that and yeah, I think after tonight you’ll be in a pretty good, pretty after tonight, I hope.

[00:57:49] To be in a spot where I can do everything else myself, and if not, I mean an evening here or there. I can probably, yeah, next weekend. Like I said, I’m out next weekend. I hope to be finishing.

[00:58:00] Touches on my own with it but we’ll see cool right on yeah so there you go there’s an episode anything.

[00:58:06] Else we good dave you wait dave you want something to drink eat I don’t know some caffeine dave yeah.

[00:58:13] I’ve been drinking okay is that alcohol or one leg and alcohol don’t mix all this you fall.

[00:58:20] Enough as it is I can see that yeah anyway I haven’t had a drink since 2007. Nice so anything.

[00:58:29] Else we’re gonna talk about alcohol now no I’m good okay I think we I think that pretty much.

[00:58:35] Covers it well everybody thanks for listening until next time I’m Ron I’m Tom and I’m dave good night.

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