Ep 177: Planes, Boats, and Automobiles

[00:00:00] Clearing up the throat. Hello everyone, welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I am Ron, I’m Tom and I’m dave. We haven’t done this for a while it’s been. It’s been a bit: yeah, three weeks right at a month, yeah. So our last episode was with hank. That was a lot of fun to do. That was a lot of fun, but we haven’t sat down to record. Since he has a really good voice, I really like to listen to him.

[00:00:36] Talk is that weird that’s kind of weird dude I mean I just like listening to him talk I don’t know.

[00:00:40] Yeah he’s such a fun guy I wouldn’t say it but I’m not going to disagree so what’s up.

[00:00:49] I’m just living the dream freezing it is cold yeah but by the way one it was according.

[00:00:56] To my car this morning it was one degree outside but monday is supposed to be 52 or 53 yeah.

[00:01:02] I at one point saw 57, but it seems to have backed down a little bit. Boy, I’m ready. That would be good jet running weather. I just want to put the window down on my truck. It’s been frozen for.

[00:01:12] Two weeks. Oh yeah, I can’t do that right now because the window motor is broken. Apparently that’s common, but anyway. So I was looking, I did not realize. Five years we have been doing this, holy smoke. Five has it been five years. March 3rd will be five years. So that will be between this release and the next one. Wow, well, over 200 000 downloads. Imagine that too. That’s half a decade.

[00:01:45] Okay, wow, that really makes it sounds really long, but I don’t think in that time we have missed with that, or with the exception of when we planned on taking off, I don’t think we’ve missed a release.

[00:01:56] We did have the one that went sideways on us and we just threw it away the Tom’s basement experiment.

[00:02:02] Yeah, oh yeah, you guys sucked on that one, didn’t you? Yeah, yeah, we tried, we tried, but it. But there actually was a, an episode that went out live, right, was that the? That was the one we did live, wasn’t it?

[00:02:14] I think no there was it was around that time but no it was recorded one and it just went.

[00:02:20] Awfully wrong in Tom’s basement I thought that was the live one I thought that was live one too.

[00:02:26] Which one? Which one are you thinking of? I don’t know, he had covet or something and yeah, he was having me Ron. I did. Yes, that was the live one. I thought. Yeah, I thought maybe it was. Maybe it was a second live one, because we did pull off one live one. I know that. No, we did. I don’t think we did.

[00:02:43] Gosh, we can. Five years later, we don’t. Yeah, we don’t need to go too much into that, but yeah, sans one, perhaps we have done. Yeah, that’s stuck to our guns on right street. That’s, that’s pretty good, quite a streak. This is episode 177 in five years, 77. Oddly enough, we are still doing it.

[00:03:05] And it’s still exciting, it’s still fun, yeah, yeah, it’s still like I’m. I have not reached the point on the drive out here where I’m like man, I wish I didn’t have to do this tonight. Yeah, I have not reached that point yet after five years. That’s impressive. That is so. That tells me that our spacing is just right. Yeah, I think the two week is the sweet spot. I do, too, what I mean one

[00:03:29] Week was fine we had a whole bunch of stuff to cover and try and get out quick but that got a little.

[00:03:34] Stressful it was overwhelming yeah stressful was it is a good word for it I mean on week and off.

[00:03:39] Week is nice, because you don’t want to let the listeners down. Well, not editing helps a lot. So, yeah, I think we’ve we’ve hit our stride in how we’re doing things so too, and making things work so, and it’s still fun. So, yeah, and there’s still new stuff, and I’m assuming I have exciting stuff to talk about. Today we’re going to talk about airplanes. We’re going to talk about lots of airplanes that are being released. Yes, we’ve got what? Four, one, two, three, one. I’m looking at three, four airplanes that we’re going to talk about that were released. A new stand came out from extreme flight. I got a boat.

[00:04:15] We’re going to talk about that I think that I think that looks really cool it does it looks like luggage.

[00:04:20] That escaped from a zoo or something luggage that escaped from the zoo I don’t I don’t know why you.

[00:04:26] Would keep luggage in a zoo I’m not sure what that yeah means that kind of hurts I’m sorry it looks.

[00:04:32] Like more like a car top topper oh I could see that oh like a tule yeah it’s not a tule.

[00:04:39] B sorry is that what you mean yeah the car top that goes all the part yeah I could see cargo from.

[00:04:45] The side yeah I could see that yep but it’s still cool did you polish it no I cleaned it we’ll.

[00:04:51] Talk about. We can talk about it. Give that thing a wax job. It looks really good. I did actually clean it up and I took the sticker off the front and I cleaned it up and stuff. But we’ll, like I said, we’ll talk about- we can talk about that later. Let’s see there’s also a really good review. I don’t model aviation for an f22 64 millimeter. You all should check it out. I would have to say. Whoever wrote that did I mean a great job. He’s talking about himself. Dave me. Yeah, I’m trying to come up.

[00:05:24] With something here to not piss him off too bad, but it’s just very well written. I don’t think I’ve has that. Their standards are slipping. I don’t know if I have that issue yet. It’s digitally.

[00:05:35] Released so far. So the new one has not actually mailed him gotcha. So yeah, you should check that out. Let’s see, there was also we will talk about later. The electro streak came out. I’m excited about that. But I think like I don’t know if maybe their release of that has spawned more searches for the electro streak. But I’ve had multiple people email me asking about doing shortcuts again.

[00:06:06] So I might rip off a few. I’m yeah, I might cut a few more. If anybody wants some, let me know. Send me an email, Ron, at rcplanelab.com, and I’ll try and figure out if we can. It’s feasible. Yeah, they’re super easy to build. Yeah, they are. It’s a good halfway building airplane. That I can tell because I’ve

[00:06:30] Only made it through half of it well dave built his and I built mine and others on discord have.

[00:06:35] Completed theirs but like I said we’ll probably be doing another run of that and they’ve all.

[00:06:41] Flown great. They fly awesome. Yeah, the original ones fly awesome, and I can only imagine the new one with extremely varied power plants in all of them. Yeah, we’re all over the place. Yeah, and they all about same top speed. Yeah, it seems like some climb better than others. Unlimited vertical- yeah, so that’s.

[00:07:01] That if anybody else is interested let me know I’ll probably I’ll think about doing it here in the next.

[00:07:05] Couple months. We, I’m pretty sure, because I was the keeper of the last kit for a while and that one that’s gone. It’s gone. Yeah, I believe. I believe we gave that to someone, was it dayton? No, no, we had somebody.

[00:07:23] Email me wanting one. Ah, so I had to. Okay, I sent it out to that, but there are none in stock right now, but you can potentially. Yeah, so, and that’s that’s the other thing. Dave asked me about printing some plans on my big printer. I did buy ink heads. Oh cool, let me know what I owe you. No, I mean, I don’t, I’m not worried about that, but they’re expensive and that sucked. That thing is sat for like a year, year and a half, and not been used because of that. So we’ll get back and get back to printing things. So do those go bad from non-use or they just sitting, apparently? I mean, I, I think it, everything. That’s a weird printer.

[00:08:00] Like I said, it’s it’s old, but everything on there is like replaceable, so you can pretty much replace. I mean, I’m trying to think, when I got what I had to do, I had to replace the drive belt. I had to replace the ink heads. Already I had to buy new ink and the ink is in huge containers. There’s six of them. What else? I had to change something else. I don’t know what it was, but, like I said, everything in there- even the, the ink tubes, whatever you want to call it- that runs back and forth, is it’s all replaceable. So it’s like a commercial unit designed to be repaired, is a commercial unit. So it was one that.

[00:08:34] But unfortunately the heads are kind of spendy. Oh yeah, and so is the ink. If you buy actual hp ink, I found some cheaper ones that worked well with the ink, so we’ll see. But anyway, yes, dave, here shortly. Thank you getting those, hopefully. Let me know what you need and we can get it printed for you. Cool, don’t forget everybody. We have new listener survey out. I don’t think we’ve talked about that much before. Yeah, four before, excuse me, the fourth one we’ve done. So go fill it out it.

[00:09:07] Helps us out and all that fun stuff we also got an email from somebody about our spreadsheets I don’t.

[00:09:13] Know if you guys saw that yeah I forgot to respond to it and you took care of it for me well I’d sent.

[00:09:18] A cop well because I had my phone on me when I got it and I usually keep like the actual.

[00:09:25] Spreadsheets that I can deal with, like on my computer, because it’s easier to work with stuff. Obviously you’re just able to export them real quick, but I had sent a version out last year to somebody else that had asked for it, so I just sent him that one. But I will read the email and then we can discuss quickly. He said thanks for the shows. They make me smile and laugh. I’m happy to be one of your seven listeners. Thanks for that. I’m sorry I can’t find it on your website. Where is your spreadsheet of planes? I need to get organized on what I have, what I need to buy to finish and what I need to bring to the field. I’d also like to find the what day I flew and how often. Spreadsheet.

[00:09:59] Thank you. I appreciate all you do on and off the air. I looked under links but I didn’t see it, so I don’t keep track of days I flew. We all have different spreadsheets. I do. We don’t even have like a common right base between us. We all have made we have three different appearing spreadsheets- different, grossly different. Yeah, and they’re keeping track of different things, keeping track of what’s important.

[00:10:23] To each one of us exactly so like dave keeps track of what day plane and how many times and then if.

[00:10:31] Something significant happened. Okay, similar, mine’s fairly similar to that for this year. I was tinkering with adding another column, so I would have the date that it was last flown and then another column. I would compile that every date that I flew it for the year, like so, I would be able to know: oh, I flew it on january 3rd, march 14th, and again I flew it in august, whatever. Yeah, I haven’t done that, but I was thinking about adding that. And then I have a notes section for each plane that I can jot down anything I need to remember before I fly it again. Like, hey, the

[00:11:06] Add some down, trim or whatever. Yeah, but yeah, similar to. And then obviously it doesn’t translate well into google sheets or whatever the thing is. I use excel, so in the, in the description for the airplane, I actually color code that also so I can quickly at a glance, just yeah, find the.

[00:11:28] Airplane I’m looking for and it’s funny because that annoys me, I, I don’t know why, and that’s why everybody has their own. I mean, I’m sure there’s things I have on mine that I like, that you don’t like so, and that’s okay. I haven’t looked at yours, so no, if it bugs me, it doesn’t bug me enough to worry about, right, but anyway, so that’s, that’s the spreadsheet thing, like if we all have different ones that are suited to fit what I mean I, I would be happy to post mine up on our

[00:11:56] Website somewhere if somebody wants to copy and paste I’m sure dave probably would too yeah I mean.

[00:12:02] There’s nothing there’s really nothing special about mine yeah there’s five minutes to put it.

[00:12:05] Together. There’s no information on mine that I would care if anybody saw. So, yeah, same with mine. Yeah, hit us up and I’ll put it on there if, if the interest demand is out there, okay, cool, so that’s.

[00:12:17] That right on. The next thing I want to talk about I’m actually excited about, and I haven’t told either of you guys this yet. So this is new, whoops, new to everybody. I have bought something that I will not have yet- I will be getting it in march- but I had to order this. Have it made especially for me. You want to take a guess? I have pictures. I’m guessing it’s a custom.

[00:12:45] Printed jet but no oh man I want to say a trailer and you are correct there it is how.

[00:12:55] Pretty is that nice that is my trailer what’s in black and white I like the black and white I don’t know.

[00:13:01] Why so eight by 11 losses coming I know I could tell by how excited you were I know by the look.

[00:13:08] On your face oh I like that so I ended up going tandem axle huh yeah so I ended up going with a 6×14.

[00:13:16] Tandem axle because it has brakes and if I ever decide to haul something heavier in it, I can pull something heavier. Blackout package so it looks nice with the black as opposed to the, I think. So there’ll be a thousand degrees in there in august. No, the top is white. It’s got a white top. Yeah, 800 degrees in august. I like the nose. Two-tone color, aluminum: yeah, it has the v-nose on it. Has the brakes- obviously that’s the brake controller and stuff on it. Is that a carbon fiber stripe? No, that’s aluminum, I think it. Yeah, what’s it called? The diamond plate or tread? Okay, so it does.

[00:13:51] Have pattern to it. I’m just not seeing reflection. That’s cool and that’s the same on the: the front rock guard, the sides have it going up, and then the blacked out wheels- blacked out wheels- and then the wheel wells are also done in the diamond plate. It’s very sharp. I like it. Like said, I had to order that. I mean they made it specifically, obviously, after I bought it. That’s built just for me, like just for you. So the reason this all happened and the timing that it happened: yeah, how does crystal feel?

[00:14:22] About this. She’s actually the one that told me to do it. And she was actually the one that told me because I was going back and forth after we talked about it and I said I don’t know if I want the single axle or tandem axle, and she gave me the response- pretty much that I have given to her on other things too- that I know what you’re gonna get, what you want, because in two years you’re not going to miss the money. But if it’s not what you want, you’re going to look at it every time and go. I wish

[00:14:48] I would have done that differently yeah the nice thing about a tandem is if you blow a wheel you can.

[00:14:52] Three-legged. That was my other thought on it. The other thing is that’s easier to climb into. You don’t have to worry about a tipping as much. If it’s not hooked up to a car, what are you going to haul it with? The expedition will pull that, okay, cool. Yeah, put air conditioning in it. Stop, I have thought about that. I don’t want to hear it. There is a lot that’s going to have to be done. So before this, we talked about toledo. This will not be done for toledo, so if we can still use daniel’s trailer for that,

[00:15:24] That will be fine but it will be done for jonal yeah I mean getting the trailer is the expensive.

[00:15:31] Part but the other expensive part is going to be outfitting it’s not actually is I mean like track.

[00:15:35] System is not expensive. No, I’m saying it’s. It’s closer to being the expensive part on the inside than I expected. Okay, yeah, so I’ve ordered the e-track for it. I’ve ordered d-rings for the floor, I’ve ordered the two by four holder things that daniel has for his, for the brackets, the bracket things and I don’t know what else I need. Huh, carpet in the carpet for the. I haven’t done that yet, obviously, but I will. I’ve got two by fours already. Well, that’s very sharp. I’m excited for you. So I’m not sure what to do- flooring, walls, ceiling- I know I want to put some foam in the ceiling and

[00:16:10] Stuff to have just a little bit of r value for when it sits in the sunlight and cover that up. But I was also thinking. Well, actually one of the guys I work with. I was talking to him about it and his suggestion for the floor was to paint it up like a runway. I don’t know if that’s cool or if that’s dumb. I have not decided yet. Hmm, I know, right, that’s going to require some thought, because you have to do it right or else it’s going to look dumb. My other option is black and white checker.

[00:16:43] Yeah, that’s everybody does classic, I know, but everything I mean it’s gonna be black. I could see a runway being kind of cool if it’s done right. If it’s done right, that’s the problem. It’s got to be.

[00:16:55] Done right, right, so I don’t know I have time. Well, congratulations, thank you. So what I was saying before is the reason this all happened. When it happened, my sister and her husband are going on vacation to florida and they will be driving. I know where this is going. Right, they’re. They’re going to be driving a little bit closer to there, but farther away than I thought when we were first talking about it, because we’re obviously talking about trailers like we’re going down there. If you want, we can just stop by and pick one up. I’m like, oh, that would save so much on shipping and all that.

[00:17:30] Because it’s like two grand to have them delivered, really like to get them from there up here. Yeah, I mean, it’s georgia ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, it’s ridiculous how expensive that is. And so I thought about and like said, talked to crystal and stuff and decided, yeah, let’s go ahead and do it. So I was talking to my brother-in-law and stuff and told him I had it ordered and he’s like, okay, cool. And then he looked it up, it adds four hours to their trip, oh, going to florida. And so he’s going to pick it up on their way to florida through george, obviously, go down to florida, they’re going to spend a week there.

[00:18:03] All around everywhere they go and then come back because that’s closer for them.

[00:18:09] Like they’re so it’s closer on the way down than on the way yeah because they’re going.

[00:18:13] Sightseeing in different parts of the state or well it’s nice of them to offer to do that and.

[00:18:19] Yeah it does save you a considerable amount of money and it’s I mean it will help him too because.

[00:18:23] He can use it obviously when he needs to haul something or something like that but yeah.

[00:18:27] So, yeah, cool that was. That was the whole impetus behind the timing of it, so I’m glad everything worked out okay. So if anybody has ideas on what I need for a trailer, let me know, because, yeah, hit us up. I don’t know. One thing I was thinking about doing, though. So before we go to joan, all I will be getting the lithium batteries for the golf cart, so I was thinking about putting a couple of those six volts in the trailer for powering lights, powering other things, powering a battery charger for charging rc batteries when we’re at our local field. I think that would be.

[00:19:02] Handy. That would be very handy. So there’s a lot of things to think about and figure out. But cool only thing I didn’t do- and I’m not sure if I’m going to regret this or not- I didn’t do the extended height. They had an extra six inch height option and I will tell you exactly why I didn’t. It would not fit in my shop. I have nine foot doors on the shop and it wouldn’t fit in there. You’re not that tall.

[00:19:25] It doesn’t you’re you’re not going to miss that extra height and the convenience of being shorter.

[00:19:29] Is going to come. I think that’s that’s kind of what I was leaning towards and I think that’s I. I think I’m going to be happy with the decision I made, because I want it to be stored inside all the time if possible. Yeah, I would. Yeah, we’re not being used. I mean there’s no reason not to have it back into the shop. So, yeah, we have to make some room. Oh, there’s room out there. I mean I could pull it in right now. You haven’t been out there for a while. It’s not as bad as it used to be. Oh, okay, it’s not good, but it’s not as bad as you’re good. Well, congratulations, I’m excited for you, thank you.

[00:20:00] I can’t wait to for you to have it. I know we’re going to have a good trip and we fit everything we needed in the six by 12. We did, but I figured a couple extra feet would be nice. Yeah, what? Yeah, and

[00:20:12] Being able to shift the golf cart four or have to get the balance just right to make it pull real nice. Yeah, that’s going to be nice. Well, that’s the other thing. Plus it being a tandem axle, you can.

[00:20:20] Right, you don’t have to worry as much about that with tandem axle. So cool beans and it will haul good deal a lot more. Because the I mean like weight wise, yeah, because with the ones I was looking at, you could only put- I think it was like 1200 pounds in it with a single axle, the way they were built, longer ones that were a little bit heavier, with the extra couple feet right. So this one, I think

[00:20:46] Will haul 4500 pounds now so next up will be an f-250 diesel or duramax or something no I’m still.

[00:20:54] Hoping beyond hope. The cyber truck comes down in price, but I don’t think it is. Oh, so you could just brick it in your driveway, is that anyway? I’ll take that out later. Haters gonna hate. If it was the price they said it was going to be when they originally released it, we would have one now. Oh, I bet you’ll be.

[00:21:10] Able to find one pretty inexpensive, real soon. I don’t know. They seem like they’re pretty. They’re all broken. They’re not all, bro, not all broken. I’m not a. I’m not an electric car fan either day. But I mean, oh, I don’t mind the electric car part, it’s just I don’t want to drive a garbage, can? I don’t.

[00:21:26] Like raccoons, get confused. This is when I test my self-control and I’m doing fine. So any rats? Yeah, next up. So that’s that. Having that trailer is going to be really, really handy, yeah. So I think you guys want to talk about new releases now. Yeah, sure, we got plenty of them. Yeah, there’s, we do quite a few here. I will start. Okay, go, e-flight electro streak. Yeah, I am super excited for this one, not only because we did the electro streak build- and by we I mean others.

[00:22:04] No, I’m kidding, mine’s halfway done. So I don’t remember when they announced this, but it’s been since we haven’t recorded for so long the pre-order that I ordered. Mine actually delivered today. Yeah, so it is now sitting right over there, built awesome, put together, because it took three screws and it was really easy. Yeah, it was. So. Let’s go. First thoughts. Tommy, what do you think? I like it’s.

[00:22:28] Nicely done something you pointed out as we were fondling it. Whenever the foam is really fondling the foam, yeah, yeah, a lot of carbon reinforcement in the wing and stab and the fuselage too. There’s some carbon in there. It looked like yeah, but the foam is like, really, really it’s, it’s dense, yeah.

[00:22:47] Like when you can it’s got some substance to it tight and it doesn’t like give like one pound.

[00:22:55] Or two pounds, like with your fingers, I can imagine it would be difficult to put a dent in it. It’s not. It’s not the traditional softer foam that we’re used to. So, yeah, no, I like the looks of it. I like the red, black and white. It’s going to show up good in the air. It looks fast sitting still. But I’m kind of with dave. I wish they had called it something else. It’s really yeah, I mean.

[00:23:18] It’s got some electro streak cues to it but it doesn’t it’s kind of it’s not an electro streak.

[00:23:23] Of an electro streak, but like so the electro streak. Way back in the day you could get it in two versions. Right, there was the built-up version and there was the that did a fiberglass version. This one looks closer, obviously, to the fiberglass version because the fiberglass version wasn’t a box fuselage, it was actually round, but the wing is. The wing is- let’s call it, electric streak- inspired. How about a concendo streak? It does look very much like to me. It’s very reminiscent of the concendo when I first

[00:23:52] Saw it I thought it was the updated like v2 yeah but aside from the name sharp looking I really.

[00:24:02] Like it. I can’t wait. I can’t wait to see it fly like little shark fins on the other, on area the little fences. Yeah, it’s cool looking airplane. Yeah, I’m looking forward to seeing it go 120 mile an hour.

[00:24:11] Me too. It needs a whistle. Ish, well, maybe it might whistle, who never know? Well, not, not the one I heard, but it’s fast. Yeah, so the electro streak 1.1 Meter, one of the most convenient, best handling and fastest prop driven e-flight aircraft. Yet top speeds of 120 to 130 on 4s or 100 mile per hour on 3s to deliver an unmatched fast flying experience. Now, I did see they had a bulletin that came out and I don’t remember exactly what it said. I should have printed that one. Apparently it’s not quite as

[00:24:42] Fast as they had in their production version or in their pre-production. Pre-production version they said the- the ones they’re getting in- are a little bit slower, but you can get higher speeds with a different prop combo. I think they said like 110 to 120 on a 4s, which is still pretty good and you can, out of a dive still hit like 130. But what they were talking about before was literally straight yeah, level flight, yeah, so 3s or 4s, 1800 to 2200 milliamp hour battery, and is that everything? I think that’s.

[00:25:19] About it comes with metal gear servos and like I said actually having seen it and touched it and.

[00:25:26] Played with it and fondled it I like it yeah dave your thoughts overall pretty good like I said the.

[00:25:31] Name could go out the window but the design and everything else I really like it looks like it’s.

[00:25:36] Really well done, see, I guess, I guess I’m not married to the old style electro streak, to where it bothers me as much because it’s. I mean, it’s a, it’s a cool looking, almost shark type tail, fast.

[00:25:51] Looking airplane. Yeah, it’s a nice looking airplane. Yeah, yeah, yep, looks well done. I think the name doesn’t bother me as much as you guys. I am still concerned about the two extensions that we can’t.

[00:26:00] Figure out what they’re used for but yeah it came with two extensions in the package and I didn’t see.

[00:26:04] Anything in the like I read the destructions and I didn’t see it I didn’t see anything either so.

[00:26:08] I don’t know what that is for. I mean, maybe it was for plugging in a bind plug, but you really don’t need one because the yeah, but then why it has the button. Two of them, I don’t know. Maybe they want to make it longer. I’ll throw in my stash with all the other ones, who knows? There you go, but yeah, but.

[00:26:24] Yeah, exciting. Yeah, it looks like it’s well done. Like dave said, the decals, or stickers or whatever you want to call them, are. None of them are peeling up and they’re very smooth. I’m a little concerned it might fade in the sun, but well, that’s the same. If the, if the decals are the same as the stuff that’s on my, like the turbo timber evolution, those haven’t faded and it’s been in the sun quite a bit, so it might be okay, but that’s my only concern about it. Yeah, looks good, we’ll see. I like it, can’t wait to see.

[00:26:51] It fly me neither I have to just flying soon to get in there february flights I know it’s the weather.

[00:26:57] Has been terrible the 20th already I know okay that’s all I have dave has the other ones talk.

[00:27:05] About extremes. Yeah, no kidding, you can’t get much more. Yeah, I got the two extreme aircraft here from one end of the spectrum to the other, so I guess I’ll start on the slow, slow side, slow side. There you go. So it looks like e-flight is releasing an se-5a world war ii fighter. That also is how long.

[00:27:26] It’s been since we’ve recorded because neither one of these had been announced the last time we sat.

[00:27:30] Down. Yeah, just saying it’s green, it’s got two wings. No, I’m kidding, it’s very nicely done. World war one airplane. From what I see- I haven’t actually seen one in real life, but I’ve seen a lot of videos on it- it looks like it’s they’ve made world war one as convenient as they possibly can. Yeah, you can hover it convenient, not what I’m saying. You can hover it too. You can hover it too. Yes, they, the flying wires, are elastic with hooks so those come off real easy. Oh, that’s cool. The.

[00:28:03] Cabane struts are all apparently some sort of clip lock system. Okay, and I haven’t been able to see exactly how they’re doing it, but looks like they just snap together, so it makes it easy to take it apart if you need to. It’s small because it’s only 900 millimeters. Yeah, so it’s supposed to.

[00:28:19] Fit in the trunk of a normal size sedan was that about 34 ish inches something like that’s 1.1.

[00:28:26] So take away 0.2. Yeah, it’s, it’s right at 36 inches, okay, but I mean, seriously, who drives a sedan and is in this hobby, right? True, well, that’s a good point, but anyway, it’s supposed to put in there all assembled, all good to fly. There’s no gyro or anything in it, but it does have the AS3X+. So that is the gyro. That is the gyro. Yes, yeah, but for additional keeping it straight on the takeoff. It looks like it wobbles around a little bit if you apply the power too fast, so it looks like it might.

[00:28:57] Be a little slow coming up with that, but other than that it looks great. All the flying videos I’ve seen. It’s a beautiful flying aircraft and most of the reviewers are saying the three cell is really the recommended setup for it. Oh really, because it is a world war, one airplane, four cell- it’s just kind of on the stupid side. Yeah, it’s not supposed to hover so, but it can. The lighter weight with the three cell seems to be where everybody’s happier with it. Unless you want to hover a se5a, then go for the force. I’ll set up more power to you. Very nicely done. Yeah, can’t really say

[00:29:28] Much more about it if you’re into that type of airplane it’s yeah the detail looks pretty good for.

[00:29:32] The doer. The guy’s got a scarf and I’ve had seen several people have lost the scarf, so I want to put a drop of glue on that. How much? How much are they? And we are looking at 279.99 As a. I believe that is the plug and play. No, that’s. That’s the bind and fly. Yes, which I forgot to say on the.

[00:29:49] I can’t read. I threw the paper away, is it? I didn’t say the price on the electro streak, is that 249.99? Yes, 249.99, Find and fly. You think I’d remember, because I well, just paid that, just paid that well.

[00:30:01] Did you though did you use your points instead no straight up nice 249 plus tax.

[00:30:08] So anyway, yeah, upper and lower ailerons, good looking airplane. If I was more of a fan of se5, I would definitely be looking at one of these, and then you would paint it gray. It would have to be repainted because, because I look like everybody else, yeah, I’m just not a fan of the se5. So but it’s a. It’s a good, sharp looking airplane. They did a really nice job on it looks like.

[00:30:32] I can appreciate it for somebody else that likes it but I do not want to own one there you go.

[00:30:37] Yeah, yeah, now, if we can get them into a triplane or a d7, yeah, you never know, this might be the start of something. Yeah, like if these sell, well, who knows, maybe they will. Apparently they’ve had an se5 before in the park zone, park zone- but this is apparently is a completely brand new mold. It’s bigger, it’s got a lot of really detailed molds in it, so it’s a very nice.

[00:31:02] Looking airplane yep and I’ll update electronics also yeah which is nice cool so that is that Tom.

[00:31:10] You want to do yours real quick and then we can jump into okay we’ll go from the slowest of the.

[00:31:16] Bunch to the middle of the road of the bunch. I wonder actually, yeah, that’d be interesting. Yeah, I don’t know. So this is the hobby king fly cat. This is the second version of it. To me it’s reminiscent of a, of an elan kind of. I can see that kind of a mix between an elan and maybe what was that thing, that if I did the scimitar kind of kind of a mix of the two. Okay, 70 millimeter, 41 inch span, 219.99. That’s for a plug and fly. They call it plug and p and f, p and f. Yeah, cool looking airplane.

[00:31:51] Green and green, silver kind of a delta wing, twin tail, edf, 70 millimeter. I said that things that are new for the version 2, more powerful, more powerful, yeah. So this is a re-release. Yeah, this updated depth, so it’s a 2100 kb motor, so 12 lady fan and a new 80 amp speedo, so faster than the original version. I have to admit, I’m not familiar with the original.

[00:32:22] Version, but this one looks cool and retracts for the price- 220 bucks, I know, for a 70 millimeter edf that by all accounts, looks like it flies, really, really. It’s rock solid. From everything I’ve seen,

[00:32:35] Yeah, and what did dave say? The important, the important word on that one: retracts. Oh yeah, with retracts, yeah, the, the apparently v1 did not have retracts. Ah yeah, that, I mean that, yeah, that’s.

[00:32:49] It might be in my future you never know yeah oh and you can also do reverse thrust so that’s kind.

[00:32:56] Of cool 6s runs on a 6s three to four thousand so that’s I’m kind of out on that one then well I’m.

[00:33:03] Not they have stuck they have stuffed a 5 000 into it and it flies just fine well there you go.

[00:33:08] Really well a little heavier I didn’t want to hear that but okay it will balance on a 5 000.

[00:33:13] Requires obviously the battery and charger and a receiver does it say what five channel or greater xt90.

[00:33:23] That’s easy enough to swap absolutely that’s what I use in my big stuff is xt90s so all my stuff.

[00:33:28] Is icies, though mine is too- now coming to the dark side. It’s a cool looking airplane. It looks like I’ve seen. I’ve seen a couple of videos of it fly and in the air it looks really, really cool. So I can, I can totally see for 220 dollars. I can see one of these in my hanger. Initially looks like a floater in a landing. Yeah, that too. And nice thing also, having servo in each wing. You can split them off, the whatever, the whatever. They have, their version of their, yeah, and then you can

[00:34:05] Set it up as like a tailor on setup so you can set them up as ailerons and elevators and really flapper on. Yeah, add flaps. Flapperons, I should say, but I think that’s. I’ve seen that.

[00:34:16] A lot people are going. They want to have the flapperons because it does float forever, so you don’t be able to dump some of that lift. Yep, so well, and that’s when it’s good to have the reverse thrust.

[00:34:23] Too once you touch down to be able to have a break of some sort of some kind yeah so yeah 1042.

[00:34:30] Millimeter. Like I said, they’re 41 inches. Oh, that’s a good size. Yeah, the size of that one, yeah, really, yeah, 50 millimeters short. I like the green, white and silver. I mean, I’m a fan. So there you go. Nice hobby king flycat v2- a very nice price. Yeah, great price. Now on to the not so nice price: yeah.

[00:34:49] This one’s a little scary, but cool. Arguably, you get what you pay for. Much cooler, oh yeah, so from free wing. This is the sr 71 blackbird twin, 70 millimeter edf with gyro and functioning drag shoot.

[00:35:07] That’s so cool. Like: how do you? I have not paid much attention to that. How is it hard to package back up and throw in? Is it like spring-loaded, is it? I haven’t seen too many videos because I don’t.

[00:35:18] Want to be too entranced by this thing. I’m staying away on purpose. From what I’m seeing, though, people are just kind of basically just jamming it stuff in there, and it’s kind of, I think, from what I understand, it has a spring-loaded floor right and it kind of throws it out. Yeah, so when you don’t release open, it kind of pushes it out and then the wind catches it. They do say: absolutely do not use a reverse thrust. If you use the drag shoot. Oh yeah, because that could be a real problem. Yeah, yeah, and it does look like it works really nice. Flight-wise. It looks like an sr-71. They

[00:35:52] They all tend to rock a little bit, and this one, even with a gyro, looks like it rocks a little bit. Yeah, so, but hey, live with it because it’s an sr-71. Yeah, it’s an sr-71, with three tracks, with.

[00:36:02] Three tracks, really good looking gear, and a triple main bogeys and a drag, yeah. So I’ve seen a couple of videos of it flying two brothers. I see they did like a like a quick hit video, I think is what he calls it, or maybe it’s a video short, whatever it is. So what I like about this one, compared to like the e-flight one that they did- the e-flight one looks like it flies okay, but it flies like one speed, like you fly it super, super fast and it lands super, super fast, throttles super. Yeah, this one

[00:36:34] Because it’s bigger, bigger flies, better, right. It looks to me anyway. It looks more stable and it looks like it actually has an envelope, a flight envelope that’s. I’m not gonna say it’s a wide envelope, because I mean it’s an sr-71, right, yeah, but at least that’s an envelope. It will slow down some.

[00:36:52] I’ve seen it in some fairly high alpha yeah right exactly yeah so where I don’t think the.

[00:36:56] Smaller one is able to pull that off no so that I do I mean with the videos I’ve seen of it I.

[00:37:04] Yeah oh yeah I like it too I like it a lot I don’t like what you’re getting ready to talk about.

[00:37:08] Though, yeah, I don’t like that part either. Yeah, well, I’m gonna push that off a little bit, okay, something I do really like about it is it has multiple decal packages, so you’re not stuck. It just comes in basic black and then you add: and they’ve got, I think, five, maybe six different liveries for it and rudders- very, oh yeah, full flying rudder. Yep, yeah, that’s cool too. Yeah, the drawback: here we go. This is where it hurts for a foam jet.

[00:37:40] Seven hundred and twenty nine dollars yeah it’s up there but truly unique you get what.

[00:37:47] You pay for not another one that size it’s got a gyro on the market and then that’s true too it.

[00:37:53] Already has the gyro built in it doesn’t have a receiver but you can use any dumb old receiver.

[00:37:57] It’s got a lighting package in it yeah optional decals you get a lot for your money but man seven.

[00:38:05] That’s a lot of money for foam. It’s still a chunk of foam for seven what? What gets me, though, is it- it feels like it wasn’t that long ago that the thought of spending like 200 bucks on an airplane- I know the foam airplane, not just foam, but an airplane like- hurt me. Yeah, I don’t know why. It’s just become okay because, yeah, now we’re talking- I mean, just a couple years ago, you and I both were

[00:38:28] Yeah, for a chunk of foam, but I mean, I mean I would love to have one of these, but it’s it’s just a little bit outside what I’m willing to pay for right now. A foam airplane, yeah, no, I get it. I mean

[00:38:42] I think there’s something what is the wingspan I don’t know what it was on there I don’t know.

[00:38:48] They don’t make much on the wingspan on this but it is it is six foot long yeah I was gonna say it’s.

[00:38:52] Tall so it’s it has a presence like in all the videos I’ve watched I mean it’s it yeah it has.

[00:38:59] Presence it looks impressive yeah I was wandering on the decals there’s only three of them but there’s.

[00:39:04] A lot to choose from. Yeah, there’s three. Yeah, I like it. I think it’s cool. I do too. Maybe, maybe in the used market eventually, you never know- one of these pops up at the right price side.

[00:39:17] I bet they’ll get snatched up pretty quick here. I guess it’s got a 37.8 Inch wingspan, but it’s 74.6 Long. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. Okay, so that’s what we got on new.

[00:39:34] Unfortunately, it’s not. It’s not quite as fast as the others. Well, it’s something. Something new from stream flight is they have their new premium folding stand. I am super, super excited about this, not because of the pictures they posted on facebook, but it’s been a while since somebody has produced a wooden multi-use stand in this size. That is quality, that is of quality and also.

[00:40:07] The price is high, I’m not going to deny that. But there are stands out there that do the same thing for twice the price that e flat or extreme flight is getting for this. So anyway, premium folding stand, it’s all wood. It comes with a padded carry bag. That’s nice, yeah right. Has obviously the, the arms that you can adjust to hold your various fuselages and a thing- has holes in it for tool storage. Has a little tray on the or a shelf underneath that you can use to put stuff.

[00:40:45] On recesses for hardware. That’s what they’re, what I was getting at there. It’s 39 and a half inches tall, which is what I would call table ish height, so it’s a good height and it’s it’s it light. I saw somewhere, I thought I saw a weight, but things like less than 10 pounds. Pretty good traditional wooden stands, like that wooden stand I found at iowa, whatever it was. That thing is like 30 something-ish pounds. Oh wow, still nice, don’t get me wrong, but yeah and it.

[00:41:16] Doesn’t come with a bag. Right, that’s a workout. So yeah, it’s really cool. I’m really excited about it. I will eventually be getting one of these 279.99. Like I said, it’s not cheap, but for what you get it is the cheapest stand you’re going to find out there at that price. That has these features. And did I mention it comes with a carrying bag multiple times. So there you go. Like I said, not quite as fast as the other airplane releases, but cool nonetheless. Cool nonetheless, nice, I’m excited.

[00:41:49] So those are new releases. So there you go. We should come up with something other than ducted fan, but yeah, well, we did there’s. There’s been a lot. The conscendo streak is not dr fan, whatever I send a.

[00:42:01] Streak. I like that. All one word, sorry. Are we ready to move on? Yes, let’s move on. So last episode we talked to hank and he talked to a little bit about the losi nascar race they were having. So I had the chance to go somewhere where they had a bunch of those cars and their own short track to play with. My god, those are fun. Like really it’s stupid fun. Where’d you go to do this? I’m not gonna say where.

[00:42:31] But I went somewhere where they had it- okay, we can talk off air about where, but they, so they had, I think, four or five of them out that we could all just play with and there was a couple of us. So the way they had it set up it was a carpet track and then it was a big oval, but set up differently than I would, because in the middle they had how- I’m trying to think how to describe this well- so two by four stacked on top of each other, so it was like a seven inch wall and it

[00:43:02] Looked like a d, almost like a circle cut in half. Oh, that’s a good way to put it. So they had a circle that was cut in half and then move it 10 feet apart and put a single two or a two by four in the middle to space it out. So it kind of looks like a, an eye ish. Does that make sense? Trying to think how to describe this. Well, so normally, when you would do that, you would have the inside that’s also an oval, right? Yeah, so that you would go around this oval track. So instead of having a full oval on the inside,

[00:43:36] They had, let’s just say, in the shape of an eye. So, as you’re coming into one of the turns, if you miss, instead of hit right, instead of you’re running straight into trying by force- yep, so I hope I described that well enough. So there’s, I’m pretty dense and I got it. There were a couple of us racing and we pushed ourselves into the two by four. That was just stopping you like right then and there, so we

[00:44:07] Pushed and I don’t even know how much they weigh they were. It was kind of weighty when we put it back. We pushed it probably six inches out of the way. We broke the two by four, literally had splinters come off of the two by four and we were able to drive away and race. It didn’t break without changing anything. That’s awesome, like we literally pushed them out of the way. Yeah, good on losi for.

[00:44:32] Back for making them tough and we’re running yeah over racing rubbin’s racing yeah and I.

[00:44:37] Mean, I think they only get up to like 20 miles an hour or something like that. But I have been looking all over for one because I want one before we go to toledo. Well, that’s where I found out we cannot buy them yet. So last year’s nascar series of bodies and whatnot are no longer being manufactured, they are discontinued, they’re sold out. So they’re coming out with new ones, new decals basically for them, pretty much new bodies. I mean whatever the actual new bodies look like. I don’t.

[00:45:11] Follow nascar much either. I’m gonna sound dumb on some of this stuff, but I guess every year they change a little bit so they’re having new ones produced, not out yet and not going to be out before we go in april. So that saddens me, but it’s a blast, I mean, like I had so much fun. Yeah well, I mean, even if they.

[00:45:33] Were available I would not be buying one just to take to toledo but well it’ll be fun to watch them.

[00:45:39] So my, my thought was: piper wants something a little bit faster so really you can run those like down here in the basement. That’s it would be. I mean, she’ll be crashing a lot, but it’s good for her to learn how to handle stuff like that goes a little bit faster. Yeah, so I was thinking about doing.

[00:45:57] Something like that for her also. Awesome, cool, yeah, I mean I’m still going to take my to me a truck because it takes up no room. Yeah, and well, it’s a truck, they look so cool and if we have breaks between heats or something, maybe you can take our trucks out there and play with them. I have a third one for you, by the way. Okay so, and I’ve got two as well. I just need a battery. I’m probably going to get a couple. I’m probably going to get a two-pack off of amazon. What do they take? 7.4 Volt just to just to sell hard, hard pack. To sell what? Whatever you like? LiPo, LiPo. Well, I’ve got to.

[00:46:33] Sell five thousands. Well, that five thousand might be, that’s over. Well, I, I ran five thousand, so we did these cars, but they have to be a hard pack because you don’t want these things getting hit and then puncturing, and so the rules are always. Always a hard pack. Yeah, hard case. I think they are actually.

[00:46:48] If they’re the ones you guys used to run in your wrestlers those were hard packs no oh they’re not.

[00:46:52] No, they’re the new ones that I bought for powering. What was it? The? Oh, the big airplanes? Oh yeah, those are hard packs. Yeah, that’ll work, perfect. Yeah, we don’t have to buy anything, just an adapter. Apparently, there you go. I’m sure that’s not. Yeah, I already have the adapter. Oh, cool, perfect. Yeah, that’ll be fun then. I’m looking forward to that. Toledo is going to be here before we know it. Yeah, I have started getting some stuff together, but I’m nowhere near ready, and it just hit me how fast it’s going to be here. So, yeah, it’s time to get this month stuff right. Almost march, well, it’s april, but yeah, it’s.

[00:47:24] The first weekend in april. Yeah, so like a month and a week and a half? Yeah, a month and a week and a half, yes, it’s perfect. I’m excited. I always like going to toledo it’s. Yeah, this will be a fun year, I think.

[00:47:38] Especially because we’re staying on site. I’m excited, yes, for the swap meet, for sure, but also, like I, I like catching up with people, yeah, that we’ve met and stuff. Well, I see some listeners and

[00:47:49] Yeah our canadian listeners are a blast I love them hey anyway ready to move on yeah.

[00:48:00] So the next thing, let’s talk about the boat now. I’m looking at it. It’s a. I keep looking at it actually, because it’s like right there, we received an email from one of our listeners and he said he had an old- he called the bait boat- that he would like to offer us if we wanted it. I’m a sucker, I know, and I, when I saw it, I kind of fell in love. It’s different, I like different.

[00:48:25] It’s a dual hole I remember what I was thinking x cargo that’s what the name of those rooftop carriers.

[00:48:35] Were oh never oh I hadn’t either I’ve heard a thule it’s not a thule I don’t.

[00:48:43] Okay schwarzinger anyway not a tumor sorry I’m sorry I got us off track never mind but that’s what we do.

[00:48:52] We do it so well. Like I said, I like things that are different. It’s a dual. I think that’s called dual hull. I don’t know anything about. It’s a cat or boats. It’s a cat, oh, okay. So when he, when he emailed, he said I thought with a little ingenuity it could be modified to be used as a plain boat recovery device, like when Ron drives terry’s rc sailboats. Ouch, we remember it. You need scuba gear for that. It wasn’t all the way, it was not. It was fine, but I thought

[00:49:23] That was actually a good idea. So thanks for making fun of me. I mean, really I didn’t think it was possible to sink a sailboat, but I guess it is. And well, I would be the one to do it. I’ve done it, so almost saying, would that be like half sink? I mean, it was capsized, it was taking on water and left their own devices. It would have been on the bottom. Yes, had it had another, probably 45 seconds to a minute before somebody got to it, probably would have been. It would have been submerged on.

[00:49:54] The bottom which would have been gone for all eternity anyway. So we said, use it for a recovery vehicle, which I thought was cool. It came with everything like transmitter and all that stuff, but the battery for the transmitter was dead. It was an old like 72 megahertz Futaba something or another which I know nothing about. So my idea I was going to switch it over to like a surface radio which I don’t own. So I figured I’m gonna have to do some research, figure what I want.

[00:50:26] To buy. Talking to some guys that do surface stuff, do boats and all that, and told them what I had and what I was needing to do, and I loved it because their suggestion was: just use your air radio. There’s no reason not anymore to not use that for what you need it for. And so this is. I mean this is there’s no rudder, there’s no. I mean it’s not like a single motor, it’s like a normal boat is, which is kind of what I was figuring- steering and all that stuff with surface. But this one, it’s simple, just two.

[00:50:59] Speed controllers, reversing speed controllers and all that kind of stuff. So I ended up using a couple mixes to make it work. The throttle is on the right stick and I had to do that because I needed reverse and the right stick centers itself, so I thought that made sense. And then steering is on the left stick. So when you stare at left through mixing and all that kind of stuff, it I haven’t floated it yet, I haven’t boated it yet. Whatever you want, whatever you want to call it,

[00:51:31] Piper keeps asking me if she can ride on it, told her, no, it’s huge. I mean, but maybe I don’t, I don’t know, maybe she’s 30, no, she’s 44, 45 pounds. I mean this thing is not small. Well, it’s it’s. It’s not as small as I thought it was going to be. Yeah, so it’s huge. But I have thought about, like I said for joe, all having a recovery vehicle which hopefully knock on wood wherever I can find some I will not need again, but just in case I think that would be kind of cool for pushing stuff out. I will need it at.

[00:52:05] Least once, probably. But I ended up I stickered it up. I got some vinyl that’s really good, so it’s got the a10 shark, shark teeth on the side of it and or shark mouth the. The way it was set up before I mean it, it didn’t actually have like windows or anything, but I’ve cut stickers out to make it look like windows and put a couple people in there and stuff. So I really like it. So I told crystal that I wanted to name it somehow find a way to cut out stickers on there put like RC Plane Lab and then

[00:52:38] Put like plane recovery vehicle on it and that way, ah, yes, the prv. Well, we could shorten it up and call it the perv, exactly yes. When I told her plane recovery vehicle, she’s like, oh, that sounds good. And then I explained my thinking behind it so we could say, hey, we need to take the perv out back to go get the, the sunken plane or something. She no longer found it funny and told me I better not, but I don’t know how to do that, where to put the stickers and all we might have to talk about that, but I

[00:53:09] Really I would like you’re gonna stick with perv I would love to sticker it up as a I mean you could.

[00:53:14] Also go with arv so as not to offend anyone but that’s the whole point aircraft recovery vehicle well.

[00:53:22] Yeah, it could be. It could also be the plane recovery boat, the prb, but that’s not as fun. No, that’s not fun. So, no, it’s now officially the perv. Thank you see. Who wants to go out back and play with the perv? Nice, I’m going to the beach with the perv. Come here, little girl, go play with the perv. Oh, now.

[00:53:44] He had to make it weird. See, see, maybe that’s out now. Damn it, dave piper, do you want to go ride the perv? That’s not why I mean, do you still want to call it that now? No, you’ve ruined it for me, like.

[00:53:57] Seriously, you’re welcome. You’ll thank me later. I might fine. The only thing that sucks about this is that just proves that crystals right most of the time, yeah, but cool boat, yeah, thanks. Cool never.

[00:54:12] Seen anything. I like it. I like how. I like how you stickered it up. I think it looks really good. It’s all fiberglass. It’s heavy, it’s very heavy, very heavy. It’s a good thing it comes with carrying handle. I said it better need some ballast to get it down. I will see. I bet it looks like a cork, probably yeah, but it I mean it’s, it’s, it’s. It should be fun. It’s some fine unit. I can’t wait.

[00:54:35] To it’s all shiny I don’t remember it being shiny when we picked it up to clean it all up yeah looks.

[00:54:39] Like I did a lot of work on it so have you split the split the hole did you like you took the top off.

[00:54:46] The bottom. Oh yeah, I mean I had to redo all the insides and stuff. All right. There was a bunch of look good inside, nice, yeah, I mean it’s, it’s done. Well, I don’t know the actual history behind. How is.

[00:54:57] It propelled there’s two propellers on the back it’s got court nozzles in the back thrusters.

[00:55:03] Kind of a thing, yeah, like ducted. They’re like a ducted fan kind of yeah, and that’s just ran straight into a motor inside that’s got a reversing speed controller on it, big e-flight motors, so, oh, okay, cool, I think it was castle. So what is it what? Two, two successes. Each one is a six, no, three s, each one is three s, five thousand, and then the, the receiver is powered off. Something else, it’s off of 2s. But what I’m thinking about doing, though, especially if it does go to journal.

[00:55:36] Getting a- what’s it called, the camera for it, so we could do fpv but instead of the glasses, because I cannot handle that. Just getting one of the screens, yeah, yeah, that would be that’ll be helpful.

[00:55:49] For yeah hooking onto a yeah stricken airplane mm-hmm but yeah I’m very excited about that and I.

[00:55:57] Can’t wait to float it or boat it or whatever. Whatever that is. Yeah, maybe we need to go this summer something out on daniel’s boat and into the lake and that would be fun. Take the bird to the lake.

[00:56:09] See we’re not doing that anymore oh that saddens me anyway I mean sorry it’s okay so dave has.

[00:56:20] Something else to talk about are you ready okay it’s time for rc plane labs tool of the week.

[00:56:30] Okay, so I was looking to fill out an order and that’s how you got it. Yes, this is how I got it. Actually, I’ve been looking for one of these for a while. They’re sold on hobby king and they were always out of stock, so I was never able to get one. This is a great little tool for quick field repairs. It is a LiPo powered hot glue gun- nice, yeah, and it’s incredibly inexpensive. It even came with the right connector on it for me- not for me, but that’s okay, dean’s yeah, yeah, seven bucks.

[00:57:07] Oh that’s seven bucks yeah what did you said hobby no it was out on hobby king.

[00:57:12] It was. Every time I’ve ever looked on hobby king they were out of stock. This one I got from value hobby. Oh, okay, yeah, so I got my chicago. Yeah, I ordered some covering to for something else we’ll talk about later, but I saw this on here: it was seven bucks and it’s like: okay, for seven bucks even.

[00:57:32] If it doesn’t work, yeah, it’s just gonna go in the trash, can? Yeah, it’s worth this. It’s worth the seven dollars just to talk about it as a tool of the week. Yeah, especially because I didn’t pay the seven.

[00:57:42] Dollars. Yeah, and it’s a three cell LiPo. I ran it on a just for a test. I just got it, yes, last night. I ran it for a test last night on a 1600 milliamp three cell. It warmed up.

[00:57:57] Made enough goo to equate to a repair, just a quickie repair and I turned it back off, pulled the battery and it used five percent of the battery I have. What do you have like the alarm thing or reader on the I? If you were to use this a lot, I would probably recommend getting a cut off for it, or one of the alarms, whatever, because this does not have anything to keep you from running them down. But there’s nothing to say. You can’t use just one of your old, nasty batteries.

[00:58:26] That you’re not going to fly anymore to power? Yeah, but with my luck I’d forget and leave it plugged in, set it down, then come back way later and not way later. But what you mean, like I wonder.

[00:58:37] How long that actually runs off. I wouldn’t imagine it would run very long because I mean it is a heating element so it’s going to pull a fair amount of juice. I ran it probably for eight to ten minutes last night and it used five percent, so that’s a lot longer than I expected. And that was on a 1600 milliamp pack, so not a huge pack right enough to do a repair. Yeah, you’re gonna.

[00:58:59] Be able to do a quick and easy repair on this. I mean, you’ll be able to run it for an hour then at that rate with a bigger battery. It doesn’t have an on-off switch, so you can modulate it as.

[00:59:08] You need. That’s nice too, that is handy. Seven dollars, seven dollars. So this is something needs to be in your flight box, especially if like foamies, because these are yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, now that you have one, I don’t need to buy one. You can’t afford to seven dollars. Yeah, that must be it.

[00:59:24] Actually, that’s. That’s a good idea. It kind of matches. I have one of the battery powered soldering irons that I’ve never used, but you’re gonna have it just in case I need it. Yeah, yeah, and that’s why you’ve never used it, because I haven’t right, haven’t needed it, which is good, but I think that would be more handy than the actual soldering iron there’s been. I’ve got a gas powered soldering.

[00:59:51] Iron if need be see I do too butane yeah I would think the electric one would just suck the battery.

[00:59:58] Down so quick, well, but you’re kind of doing the same thing there. You’re heating up a lot more area, but this doesn’t get to 800 degrees versus. That’s true. So yeah, either way, I’m just shaking.

[01:00:10] And said: yeah, yeah, I mean, you guys all have good points. So, anyway, this, I think, is going to go in the flight box and I bet it gets a fair amount of use, because I break stuff, so do I? Yes, well, mostly.

[01:00:22] Ron’s stuff but yeah watch this yeah hey y’all hey watch this crash yeah thank you all right so.

[01:00:32] Two of the week. Nice seven dollar hot glue gun, cool battery powered. So I have one more thing to talk about before dave gets into the work he’s been doing recently. You want to go first, you want me to go right ahead. Okay, so I’m going a little out of order on this, but I wanted to talk about it because, well, it’s something I’ve done recently. Our next episode is going to be with dan landis from boomerang rc jets.

[01:01:03] So that was one that we recorded a little while ago, which, by the way, it will be available, I think, three or four days early for patrons, so if anybody wants to listen early without ads. rcplanelab.com- patreon. But anyway, so we were talking- and I don’t think we were talking on the podcast about, we were talking off air, because you took your jet there to have him look over and one of the things he suggested was getting, or one of the possible things to do was getting another brake controller.

[01:01:36] The- what was it? The asan ag68 retract controller, I think is what it’s called yep. So I took his advice on that, 100 bucks give or take. I ended up getting it for my jet because I wasn’t thrilled with the way the brakes were on that and the thing that drew me a lot to this, that the other ones- that well, the ones you have and the one I have doesn’t have- didn’t have this one is proportional brakes, whereas the ones we have are just on off at a certain percent. So there’s no, you can’t.

[01:02:12] Feather the brakes on the old ones. Right, you can with this one. So I got it and got it installed. It’s actually kind of cool because when I so on mine, I put the brakes on the right rear slider knob and as you run through that motion on it, you actually can hear them making different noises, and when you manually twist it you can feel different resistance in them. So I haven’t actually ran it yet and had it go down a runway to see exactly how much brake force is there, but it feels.

[01:02:45] Like it’s gonna be enough to lock them up, which I don’t want to do, which is fine, so I’m I’m pretty happy with that so far. Yeah, the only thing I will say: the instructions suck like they are. It’s, it’s. I think that’s why dan produced a video- yeah, himself, and even that didn’t help me, because I didn’t set it up the way it’s fully intended to be set up. So- and this is my first time- I had to contact him.

[01:03:17] Very quick to respond and help me out and got stuff taken care of. So- and I will tell you this too, because you’re probably going to get one and set it up on your jet, tommy, it is powered by okay, so it’s got ports on it. Obviously, this also has a steering gyro built in, so this will pretty much do the same thing that the gyro that I already have on my jet with the synapse does: steering gyro for when you’re going down the runway and stuff. I wasn’t going to use that, yeah, which modulates.

[01:03:52] The steering servo right the ag68 adds to that by modulating left and right brakes also individually.

[01:04:00] Does it? Yes, I did not see that anywhere and I know that’s why he produced his own video and if you go back and watch it he kind of touches on it and maybe I misunderstood. But per our conversation with him and then the video I watched, I understand that the gyro that is built into that ag68 also modulates left and right brake to help control. To keep it straight, I’m gonna have to look.

[01:04:26] Into that then before, because I don’t want it to be fighting the other gyro that I have. I didn’t realize that and, like I said, the instructions are so hard to follow, they’re, yeah, not great.

[01:04:40] Yeah instructions are not great that’s what I’m saying yeah so now I’m now I’m thinking but anyway so.

[01:04:45] The, the. The long story short. It’s powered, obviously, externally for the brakes, but the board itself gets power from the receiver through the steering input. Oh, really right, so you have to have, yeah, the steering input hooked up, which that was the first thing. I didn’t know I ran it and hooked up the.

[01:05:07] Which is just why. Why cable the, the, the lead going to the nose servo and then just unhook the power. So you’ve got the signal, what I’m saying. You probably take the signal, but

[01:05:20] Just no power. No, okay, that’s the other thing I found out. So I originally had it set up. Obviously you have two wires running to it for brake and one for retract. So I had all that hooked up and had all the brakes hooked up, had the retract servos hooked up and all that, and it wouldn’t turn on. So I figured by watching a video online that you actually had to have the power come in through the steering servo input. Does that make sense? So I hooked that up. But this is where I messed up. I just

[01:05:53] Hooked it up to an empty port on my receiver- because it’s 20 channel receivers- had plenty of ports open, just figured I needed power. So I hooked it up on that. It would not go out of initialization mode, just kept flashing fast and all that stuff. So that’s when I couldn’t figure it out, looked online, couldn’t figure it out, texted dan and stuff and he told me that it actually needed to be. Well, he said, first off, just try and actually put it in the steering servo port and see if that fixes it. So I changed that.

[01:06:27] Over to the steering servo port and then everything initialized and stuff. So I texted him back, let it. Let him know it worked. I said so I assume it’s looking for a centered servo signal on the input on that before it will boot up. And he said: yeah, that’s exactly what it’s doing. So because I had so many extra channels, it wasn’t a big deal. I just plugged it into an open channel and then assigned it. Assigned it and then just copied over with a mix. So I have a mix now that goes from:

[01:06:57] The steering nose wheel to that and then another mix that goes from the nose wheel to the rudder. So I mean there’s multiple mixes on that. But by having that now it doesn’t do anything, but it still gets signal, a centered signal, to say, hey, I’m fine, go ahead and boot up. After I did that, like said, things worked fine and I had no issues. But now that you’re saying that might be something with ask dan.

[01:07:21] To make sure, but that was, that was what I gathered from our conversation with them, and the video I watched is, I think, that the gyro works in tandem with the brakes. Okay, like, but I like I said that’s.

[01:07:32] That was my understanding. Well, it didn’t. In the video that I saw, it didn’t say anything. Yeah, excuse me, it didn’t say anything about that. It just said that it was, there was, yeah, there was like a.

[01:07:44] A scent like. It was just like a brief touch on the on the brake and then he, he combined. I think he combined like. It’s been a while since I’ve watched the video so I could be wrong, but he combined a couple of words into one sentence that made me think: oh so the brakes are individually.

[01:08:02] Modulated based on. I was wondering that myself because, like, can you adjust the brake bias in case you get it pull onto one side? Well, you can do that. Gyros doing that then? Well, you can do that on.

[01:08:12] Well, at least on my jp controller I can adjust left and right bias, but it’s not, like it’s not on the fly, it’s not proportional, like it’s all brakes or no brakes. Right, so you can, I can, adjust the maximum.

[01:08:24] Brake force per side. You, you can adjust the brake or brake force per side with the potentiometers that are on there, right. But so for to like what dave is saying, yes, if you’re pulling to one side, you can adjust that other side be heavier or less, right, it’s still just on or off, but the amount that it’s on is what’s changing. But the gyro is going to take care of that, so you shouldn’t not in the other retracts that we’re talking about. Like with the actual right, with the old stuff. Yeah, with this.

[01:08:54] One apparently. Maybe it does talk to dan make sure, but I’ll have to. I think I have to get some more information on that just to be sure. But the way it feels and is set up now, like I said, it’s it’s.

[01:09:05] I’m happy with it cool well worth I’ll probably eventually order one myself so I would.

[01:09:12] Probably just do it and be done with it. I mean, after having the other one, it’s just a pain because you got to make sure that you get it set just right to where you’re not locking up your tires because you get flat spots. And obviously I was to that point where it was too much because I have flat spots on my tires. So now, having the ability, I didn’t even know they were locking up on yours. So I guess, as you’re obviously slowing down, breaking, hitting different bumps and getting less and more pressure on them, obviously it’s going to be they get right, then come back down and right.

[01:09:46] Yeah, so if you kind of touch down, as soon as you touch down, they’re going to be locked up if you have the brakes on, which I usually I mean don’t when you actually land, but if you land, then try get on the brakes quick and you’re still not completely off the wing, it’s going to be a lot lighter and it’s going to lock up easier that way. I still think, I still think mine.

[01:10:09] Are proportional though, because, like so, when I have mine all hooked up and I engage the brakes, they buzz. You can. You can hear them buzzing, and I can change the tone of the buzz based on how far I.

[01:10:23] Move that rocker on mine. Oh, that’s I mean. Then maybe it is because that’s exactly how this one is. Yeah, I mean it changes a lot. Yeah, whereas the other one, yeah, and I don’t know if you remember.

[01:10:33] But when, when dan was feeling my brakes, he’s like, oh, that’s weird, because I had just barely moved the rocker, and when I moved it fully, that’s when they. Then that’s when he said, oh, there’s a delay. And I’m like, no, it was the rocker. I think they’re proportional. And he said, no, they’re not. But I

[01:10:49] I think they may be okay but well that’s something to put a battery on and just play with and see.

[01:10:53] Yeah you’ll know I mean yeah for sure that would be nice well we’ll see before I order that.

[01:11:01] I’ll taxi test it or something and see what. You don’t even have to do that to figure it out. Like you can tell a huge difference, like on mine, just by spinning it by hand and then putting the different switching the switch higher and lower, you can tell even mine at full, full break.

[01:11:19] I mean I can still turn the wheel not easily but I can still turn it won’t walk there’s a lot less.

[01:11:25] Pressure on those like it’s not like a car where you want to be able to lock it up right to where you can’t turn it all by hand because there’s not a lot of weight on them so and there’s not a lot of traction, so you just need enough to slow it down. It’s not as much as you would think it is. Yeah, okay, so, yeah, so that was the other thing I did and I’m happy with the change so far. Good, good, good, glad.

[01:11:52] That’s working for you. Yeah, your turn, dave. Yeah, what have you been working on? Oh, I’ve been working. What have you guys been working on? Well, I was gone for two weeks so I worked on zero, zero. So it’s all of you. So you got a zero to work on. I- well, I have plenty to work on. I just did a zero work.

[01:12:08] What he said you have a zero oh no I don’t have a zero sorry over his head yeah anyway yeah.

[01:12:17] I’ve been working like crazy it’s my happy season I’d rather build than fly so finished up my.

[01:12:25] Restructuring of the goldberg cub that’s now in any one navy navalized cub. So I got that all completely refurbished and repainted and it’s ready to fly. I’ve got terry dunn’s donated xb70. I’ve got it refurbished, repainted and ready to fly. Yeah, and I got tommy’s non-flying wing refurbished and ready to crash the bucking bronco. So I’m gonna be honest. I just now understood.

[01:12:58] Looking at the tail, what that is? It took me what don’t look at me like that. So it just hit me like, for some reason I thought that was a witch’s hat. Yeah, no, but it makes a lot of sense now that I.

[01:13:14] It’s a shark. As soon as I took the old ones off of it and laid them down and started tracing them out to make new ones, it’s like this is a shark fin, and that set the theme for the entire build.

[01:13:26] And I love it, by the way. Yeah, it’s even more funny now when it’s a shark fin and not a witch’s head. We’ll have pictures on the website. If you want to go see what we’re talking about, I will post a picture underneath the video description- or not video, the audio path or podcast post. Whatever I’m trying to say what I mean.

[01:13:47] And of course, because of the shark theme, I had to do it in tommy’s favorite color, I don’t know gray. It’s gray on top, white on the bottom. That won’t be hard to see at all. I did restrain myself and didn’t put the little darker bars of gray like a striping that sharks have. I didn’t put that on there because I figured the little extra camo wasn’t going to work in my

[01:14:11] Favor and it does have the gold green spots on the bottom so it’s reminiscent of another airplane.

[01:14:18] That was very fast well it’s the same decals that’s a goblin I just reprinted the goblin decals.

[01:14:24] And put them on the bottom so I do have a question though you went through so much time and effort in.

[01:14:29] That. Why are the push rods and control horn still red? Because I wanted some contrast and it looked like blood, okay. Okay, yeah, I don’t know that and I just didn’t want to sand the rods. But yeah, they got a fresh coat of rust-oleum, just a little contrast. They were red before. Right, yeah, we’re red before. Okay, had to build a new little hatch in the center because the plastic was pretty.

[01:14:58] Gone. Multiple crashes, multiple crashes. We know it’s tough. I like it. I like it better now that all of that ugly tape is off. There was a whole lot of tape. Yeah, that took me like two hours pull all that tape off and I’m a little sad, honestly, that there’s no lights on it. But well, it will probably get lights if it flies. I bet it will. Yeah, I can see that. I bet I don’t see any reason why it would not fly.

[01:15:26] Now I added a considerable amount of lead in the nose now those the ailerons are that’s how they’re.

[01:15:32] Supposed to be they look backwards to me nope that’s the way they were on it when I got it so.

[01:15:38] They’re wider on the outside I would have expected it to be the other way yeah I would expect it the other.

[01:15:42] Way around as well but that’s the way they were when I got it okay which is the way they were when.

[01:15:47] I got it right which is the way they were when you wanted to run over it with the camper because.

[01:15:51] You hated it so much? Yes, exactly, I’m glad you didn’t. That looks good, so I had a lot of fun with it, and if it flies, that’s great, if it doesn’t, oh well. Sharkinator. I like the sharkinator, that’s cool, not a witch’s head, but now that I’m done with it looks more like a ray. As flat as it is, it does.

[01:16:11] Look like: yeah, yeah, manner you need to have like: well, you can’t because of the propeller, but you need to have like a, a tail, a wet tail. Yeah, that would probably help with stability. Yeah, honestly.

[01:16:20] Probably would. Oh stupid, I like don’t be such a hater, it’s okay. No, dave did a great job, but it looks fantastic. Yeah, I will have never have any love for that thing. What if it flies great now, because

[01:16:32] He found I was still hate it. Yeah, I found a couple issues with it, so I will still hate it. No, what are the issues you found? Needed a lot of nose weight just, and I am just speculating at center of gravity on this thing, so it may not need as much as I think it did, but I think it needed a lot, which it had one ounce in it to start with and it’s now got two and a half or three ounces in it.

[01:16:56] Now but we have no clue what this is though right we have no idea what it is what the original airplane.

[01:17:01] Was, and then one of the easy connects was severely bound, wasn’t moving at all, so I think that was causing a binding issue with the servo not or the surface not. Coming back to central,

[01:17:17] Which in something this small fast and that would certainly cause issues with so fighting it in the.

[01:17:23] Air tail heavy and not coming back to neutral could be a big issue. Yep, nice. So hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, Tom will get a, fly it and say: I love this thing. Nope, not gonna do it. It’s already off his spreadsheet, that’s right. Yeah well, I don’t think I put it on mine yet. So

[01:17:44] That’s funny though it looks good though thanks guys I like it dave did a good job.

[01:17:48] And it’s one of those stupid things. It’s like: what am I going to do with this? Yeah, I agree. Anyway, here we go. And then I started working on the.

[01:18:01] Toledo project. I got two years ago the, the 60 mystery plane that kind of looked like an l19, kind of kind of looked like a decathlon. Yeah, not really sure what it was exactly, but you figured it out, I figured it out. I started wingspan and playing around on the internet and come to find out it appears to be a SIG satabria, a very poorly built SIG satabria as it turns to that. Yeah, but pretty rough, it’s rough, yeah, and it’s like. It’s sort of like I thought they smelled bad on the outside.

[01:18:35] Yeah that was a was that the melted pilot yeah that was melted pilot yeah the cowl is wrong.

[01:18:42] It’s got an aftermarket fiberglass cowl on it that appears to be for a champ in there, which is actually a very similar airplane. A lot, a lot of issues with this airplane, but it almost went in the trash, can no? But dave doesn’t like to dave, I don’t, unless.

[01:19:03] It’s hopeless yeah because your wings still alive so it’s hopeless to us doesn’t mean it’s not hopeless.

[01:19:10] To you. So it’s. It’s pretty sure to go back together. Either of you had the frustration of trying to fly that wing, you also would have thrown it away. I’m just saying I think the difference is.

[01:19:22] I probably would have actually just knocked it over my knee broke it in half and thrown in the garbage.

[01:19:27] Can right I now see it as a challenge it’s it’s either going to fly or it’s just going to destroy.

[01:19:33] Itself and unfortunately it’s really tough. So, yeah, and that’s one of the things like, if it truly flew that bad, you don’t want to give it to somebody because dave wanted it right, but I’m saying like, what’s the fun in that for them? You don’t want to? Oh, here, have this airplane. Yeah, that’s just rude.

[01:19:49] Well, yeah, I see what you’re saying, but the person that took the airplane from me, dave, yeah, he saw how, yes, crummy- it flew, so he knew what he was getting. I knew what I got into, yeah, so I didn’t feel bad at all. No, although I really would rather have run it over with the rb, I guess. I guess my point is.

[01:20:08] Like, if there’s a plane I don’t like or something that I’m just done with, I will hand it off to somebody and say: here you go. I did that with one of them. What was that? In joan, I didn’t like the way that carbon cub flew- the yeah, the silver and yellow one, yeah, yeah. So just gave somebody: here you go. But I think that was I was expecting more. It still flew, okay. This one truly flew like.

[01:20:32] A dumpster fire, so I would not have just tried to give that somebody to be nice. That would have been more mean than anything had they not seen it fly. But dave knew what he was. Yeah, it is what.

[01:20:43] It is so the cigs atabria- sorry we’re getting off track. Oh we the plans. What are the plans for it? The plans for it is get it restructured right. As far as covering goes, I was kind of torn. I kind of like it. It came in an olive drab with d-day stripes on it and it looked kind of cool and it’s rough in right. Yeah, it’s a 60 airplane, you can imagine. Yes, well, that wasn’t the color it started.

[01:21:06] Off as either because it was had so much smoke damage oh no that was the cub I’m thinking of.

[01:21:12] A different one yeah that was the that was the goldberg cub that’s now the ne1 that was green.

[01:21:17] Too, though, right, yeah, yeah, maybe that’s why I’m getting them confused. I don’t remember this one then, like, I remember the pilot, but that’s about all. Yeah, this is the melted pilot one. The other one was the cub that we got for 50 bucks. Yeah, I remember in the corner, I remember where you and it smelled so bad. That was fabric covered one, right, yeah, it was fabric covered. I tell you.

[01:21:37] What? The builder on that one? I don’t know who. This guy was impeccable, build it’s to my level and then some. So I mean, other than the covering being rotten on it, he was a wonderful builder. The satabria, on the other hand, I’m pretty sure was built by like a four-year-old probably, something I did many years ago. Yeah no, this one was finished, oh sorry. So this was in all drab d-day stripes. I actually kind of liked it, like I. I saw, I saw what they were going for and I almost put it back to that and it’s like:

[01:22:09] No, I’ve got too many elf l birds around here. So I got thinking about it and it’s like, okay, I’ll do. I got on the internet and started looking at actual satabria paint schemes. Once I figured it was a satabria and I wasn’t a real fan of like getting them I really saw. And then I came across one for a flight school in middle lothian, texas, and it was done as a world war ii trainer: colors with yellow wings, blue fuselage. I think that’ll look, look pretty sharp. Yeah, plus the those colors will help hide some of the issues that this thing has right, and I’m fixing a lot of them, but I’m not going to spend my

[01:22:44] Entire life on this thing, so I think it looks pretty cool. I did some more research on the full size aircraft and apparently it crashed doing an instruction flight and unfortunately, the student pilot died. Oh, that’s bad. Yeah, that’s bad, juju, but it’s the only one I saw on the internet look like this and it was pretty sharp, so we’re going to give it a shot. Okay, just don’t reenact the. I’m hoping not to do that full size one. Yeah, you’ll be fine. No, I think the blue and yellow will look really, really good. Yeah, world war ii trainer colors: nice and visible. Yeah, it’s not gray and

[01:23:18] Different. Yeah, and not gray and not gray and white and blue. Yes, yeah, so nice cool. So hopefully I can dig through all the issues with this thing and get them straightened out. Like I said, it’s, it’s got a few. It’s not even the same left to right. That would make a decent repair blog or repair log, build log.

[01:23:40] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we’ll talk later, but I had some plans for this going into it, but I think my photographs I took in the- in the before shots- are gonna take it out of condition for what I was.

[01:23:52] Wanting to do with it okay well maybe next time yeah what have you been working on Ron I talked about.

[01:24:00] Everything I’ve done oh yeah what have you been doing tommy well nothing yes so let’s hear from.

[01:24:08] Our listeners what they’ve been up to. There you go. Yeah, tell us, hit us up, send us an email, anything else- Tom at rcplanelab.com, or Ron at rcplanelab.com, or dave at rcplanelab.com. You asked, no, I said anything else. Well, that was something else. Oh, are we done? Yeah, I’m done. I’m done. I wish I had more to add, but

[01:24:32] I really yeah you really had nothing but that’s okay well I’m gone maybe next time maybe next time.

[01:24:36] Maybe next time I doubt it because I know I have something else I have to finish before I start any.

[01:24:41] Airplane projects. Yeah, me too, but that’s all right, it’s only been a year, okay. Well, thank you everybody for listening, until next time. I’m Ron, I’m Tom and I’m dave. Good night, good night, good night.

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