Ep 97: Bob Ferry

[00:00:09] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I’m Ron, I’m Tom. Today we’re sitting down with a friend of ours, bob ferry. Tommy, you and I have both known bob for a few years now and he has gotten really big into this hobby. Yeah, even though he’s a fairly a newcomer.

[00:00:27] To it I guess compared, I mean he’s been in 10 years at least now, right since you were at hobby over on. Yeah, it’s been at least 10 years ago, so that long. Well, I’m sorry, I’m wrong about.

[00:00:38] That bob tell us a little bit about yourself then we’ll kind of get into how you how you started.

[00:00:41] Yeah, I’m a general contractor and I’ve been wanting to fly. For I went to the hobby shop gonna buy my grandson a train and I seen the airplane hanging up there and I was like man, that’s what I want to do. And I had one of the guys that flies. He come in, he’s like, well, if you don’t buy it, I’m gonna. And that’s where it started, that’s how it started, so general.

[00:01:03] Contractor here in the central illinois where we live. Wife kids- yeah, wife three kids, yeah, yeah, any of the kids enjoying the hobby? No, they got their own thing going on, got a.

[00:01:16] Grandson. That was in it for a while, though. Yeah, that was. Yeah, I got a grandson and that was something I was able to do, quite a bit cool, and until he got a girlfriend, sweet. Well, bob, thanks for.

[00:01:26] Thanks for joining us. Welcome to the show. Until he got a girlfriend, by the way it happens, it happens he’ll come back when he gets bored with it. He will hopefully a few years when he gets bored with girls. If he gets bored, but there’s more time, maybe he’ll get married and then he’ll never be in the hobby and then maybe he’ll come back to the hobby or he’ll get married.

[00:01:45] And regret it and come back to nothing. Anyway, right, excuse me. You doing, okay, I’m great, all right. So I guess, how long ago did you get in, because I guess I’m off on my time frame. I thought you were like a few years after I did. Like what year do you have any idea? When you started? It was.

[00:02:06] It was about 2000, if I’m guessing correctly, it would have been 2000, late 2012, because it was fall right when you came in looking for trains, yeah, and so it was either late 2012 or early 13.. It could have been like spring I- it’s been such a long time ago, I don’t remember exactly well. So that, okay, so you’re.

[00:02:24] Like six months behind me is all then yeah because I started father’s day in 2012 right yeah okay well.

[00:02:31] Yeah, yeah, bob, there we go. Bob was a was a very loyal customer of ours at the, at the shop there when we were doing that, and yeah, yeah he’s. There’s been no, no slowing him down since. Yeah, so he okay when we.

[00:02:48] Talked to Reggie last time. We kind of talked about that being all-encompassing of his life, this hobby. Bob takes that to another level. So well, but here’s the thing. So I’m gonna come to bob’s.

[00:03:00] Defense here, no, there. It’s a good thing. Some people out there may think differently, but bob flies, like when the weather’s good, bob is flying and he, he takes every opportunity and I wish.

[00:03:15] I had the time to do that. I was not saying it in a negative way. When I first started flying, I would get up every morning 5: 30. I would be out the field before I went to work, but no one was there, and I’d practice every day until I got good enough to be out there with everybody. Well, see you’re.

[00:03:29] Probably better at flying than I am honestly because I’ve gotten so rusty I don’t I don’t do much.

[00:03:36] Especially compared to bob. Well, I don’t know, I think I think a lot of it is just being calm and focused and don’t get. When something doesn’t look right, don’t get excited, just stay calm, and usually it works out for the better. Yeah, and oh, you mean, if something’s wrong, you don’t fly.

[00:03:51] As opposed to trying to fly I think that’s what he’s trying to say wow if only somebody else would.

[00:03:56] Take that and let me tell you, bob is religious about that too. If it’s not right, bob will not fly it, and I commend him for that because, yeah, so many of us, oh, it’ll probably be okay, and some of us, more than others, it’s good enough, we know who I’m talking about: Reggie. Okay, it’s okay, he’s not.

[00:04:14] Here to defend himself. We can say whatever we want to about I’m kidding. I’m sorry, Reggie, so okay, so about the same time as I have been in the hobby, I guess, minus six months, you, your purchases per day of airplanes- has completely- well, I mean, outpaced mine by many purchases per day. Well, it must take that long to get to one, but anyway. So what everybody wants to know is, bob, what’s your?

[00:04:44] Number well I tried to count them I believe that I’m at 107. That’s 107. Awesome so when you go to.

[00:04:55] Bob’s house you I mean you can’t help but to be overwhelmed and just in pure awe and joy of what you.

[00:05:04] Are saying: not the whole house, okay, his storage, okay. Is that what you’re trying to? Yeah, like I’ve, I’ve been to bob’s house quite a few times and it’s not like you can admit, like you would imagine, like it’s not just airplanes when you walk in, but he does a very good job of keeping them contained in their rooms, where they, where they stay, like if, if he keeps the doors closed to those rooms, you wouldn’t.

[00:05:26] Even know he was in the hobby. Honestly, yeah, it’s not seven. Yeah, it’s awesome, it’s. It’s an addiction, it’s it’s like you, I’ve got to have that one, I want this one, it’s they all. When you see,

[00:05:37] One differently yeah when you see one you like you just like it you can’t sometimes you can’t.

[00:05:42] Quantify it you can’t say what it is about it but there’s just something it’s like I want it and.

[00:05:46] I like it and I shall own it. Yeah, well, let’s put it like this: I, I tried to sell some, but it doesn’t work for me. I, I brought your heart when I took three of them to a swap meet and I came back with five. So did you come back with the three that you went there with, plus two? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:06:05] No, I assumed he got rid of three. And then I totally get that. I was watching, I was looking at facebook the other day and I think you might have pointed me in the direction, but it was a. It was a picture from the decatur swap meet many years ago and I had that. Was it a katana or whatever? That was the one, the one you crashed. Yeah, and I did the same thing. I took it to the swap meet and brought it right back home and then eventually Ron ended up with it but crashed it. I, I know the, I know the feeling. I you get attached to them and some of them are easier to.

[00:06:36] Let go than others and some of them you’re forced to let go well sometimes it happens it does.

[00:06:42] Occasionally of those 107 airplanes how many of them are ready to go fly oh man I would say probably at.

[00:06:51] Least 90, 95. That is awesome. Like and bob, you’re, you’re kind of the type to where you don’t. You don’t like having projects laying around, you like to have your stuff ready to go and yes, and.

[00:07:06] Kind of like me. You like to for it to look a certain way and I- yeah, I’ve built racks in these rooms for these planes and I had one of the guys at the field was like, well, do you cover them up before you go to bed? Ah, I was like they’re your babies. Yeah, he does. He doesn’t do that, by the way, I know I.

[00:07:27] Can I, can you don’t. You don’t tuck everyone in. He doesn’t tuck them in at night, but he takes very good care of them and he likes to for them to look a certain. Yes, likes for them to look nice. He doesn’t like projects having laying around. So, yeah, I totally get that 90 ready to go at any given time. I mean, out of 107, that’s a pretty high percentage. That’s it’s math, like yeah, 90, some percent almost.

[00:07:52] I guess a little under anyway so bob was kind enough to give us a list of his he did airplanes.

[00:07:59] And I will do my best to not miss any of the 107 that are on here. But- and bob told me that some of these- like there may not be 107 names on there, because he has duplicates of some of them- he has which to me, which to me makes sense because we’ve talked about- we, we hit this subject over and over the- the manufacturers will make something and then they’ll stop making it, and if it happens to be something that you really liked, why not? If you can, if you have the means, buy multiples of

[00:08:30] That, in case something terrible happens down the road, you’ve got a backup. So I totally get it and so I’m gonna start. So first we have his 30 cc s bach nice airplane. We’ve got the aero works extra 30, 50 cc, yeah, and that’s another thing. Yeah, I was, I was. Yeah, a lot of bob’s airplanes are, but are big. Yeah, they’re not like awesome 40 size trainers or anything. He does not have a lot of electric foamies, which I love, by the way. He’s a, he’s a big balsa guy, yeah, and most of his stuff.

[00:09:01] I would say probably, I don’t know- conservatively, 70 of your stuff either has a gas or a nitro motor. Yeah, which I love that also, Ron. So I’m fine with a gas. 50 Cc, dle, 55 cc, dle, sitting on an extra a card, an extra 300. He also has an extra 300 l with 100 cc on her. Which that is a. I love that airplane. That’s the black, red and silver one, right? Yeah, you would like that one, Ron, absolutely, but I would. Those are my colors, all right. Moving on, we got the 50 cc card. Yak, the purple, yellow and white one.

[00:09:34] Like mine. Well, that’s, I was gonna say hold on what? Yeah, we’ve got quite a few, I’m not gonna go through all of them- quite a few p-51s. Yes, he likes the p-51s, the seagull sea fury, which he told me needs a new home. So if anybody out there is looking for a sea fury, that’s one that bob probably wouldn’t mind letting go. We got the. Oh, this is one of my favorite of all of your planes: that big, the big pits challenger. Oh, yeah, the big one with the 150 on it. I cannot wait to see that.

[00:10:05] Thing in the air what motor is that is that a da 150 on it yeah that’s a great moment and that’s.

[00:10:11] The one we ran right we ran it at the club event that one day you and I were on yeah it took three.

[00:10:16] Of us to hold it back to us. So then you’ve got an 80 cc version of that kind of that same airplane and that’s a 3w in it- yep, 3w80, and the, the big 150 cc12 is, is covered in that aura cover.

[00:10:29] Or oratex or attacks and that is gorgeous it’s beautiful they were they were scratched built by.

[00:10:34] The same guy, really. Yes, no kidding. Yes, so we had a, that’s right. Yeah, you did tell me a full well, full size, a big one, and then like a model, the same one, then like, is it, did they match? Yes, yeah,

[00:10:45] That means pretty much the same pretty close quality oh yeah the same build yeah same covering.

[00:10:50] Really yes I don’t think I realized that’s kind of cool yeah and that one’s got the his.

[00:10:55] Smaller one’s got the 3w 80 on it, which is a really good running engine too. Let’s see, we’ve got two 50 cc pits with da’s on them, and then some recent acquisitions, you’ve got the. I think those are great plains pits, right, yes, yeah, yeah, so nice. He’s got the monster pits, which is actually the goldberg, the old goldberg. I think it was an r for the blue and yellow one. No, I’m sorry.

[00:11:20] Hold on, that’s good. Does this hurt at all? Because you have one of the pits for so long? And I have heard, like just back to back to back to back to back, five of them, right, and there’s more coming. Oh sorry, five pits so far, is that? No, it doesn’t hurt, I’m glad. How does that make? How does that make you feel?

[00:11:36] I’m glad he has them. Okay, I’m not, I’m not like jealous. Well, maybe a little, that’s a lot. So yeah, the goldberg monster pits, that’s got a 35 ra in it, and I’m here to tell you that thing is a rocket, it’s a super stearman, also with a 35 ra in it. We got a 40, 40 size seaplane. Oh yeah, the linear, not on the linear, that’s an ace sea master, I think. Right, it’s a yellow one. Yep, that’s a good airplane, all right. And then we’ve got the. Oh yeah, we’ve got the, the cap 580. We call it the splat.

[00:12:09] Splat plane but it’s the big one it’s the third scale one from great planes that’s got 100 cc da.

[00:12:15] On it also a fantastic flying airplane I’ve flown that one and that one flies awesome seagull ultimate.

[00:12:22] With the dle 20- yep. We got the seagull spitfire. With the 20- is that a dle? Probably 20 cc? Yep, and then okay, so we’ve got the, the profile foamy, one of the rare foamies in his collection. This is- I think it’s called the flame epp or something like that. It’s a little 3d foamy airplane. He has a precision aerobatics addiction. That’s a pretty good flying. That’s a balsa one, so credit for that. He’s got four of these. I think they’re called taft jets or taft avionics or taft something.

[00:12:55] It’s a foam, 90 millimeter ducted fan, t tail with retractable gear. He’s got four of them, four. They actually look like they’ll fly pretty good. I know I’ve repaired one of them, but I we haven’t seen one fly yet. But we’ll change that this summer, maybe. Mini ultra stick: dave patrick ultimate, that’s a beautiful airplane. I was with you when you bought that one. Two world models, 40 size ultimates- that’s one of them you just recently repaired. Yes, and those look really, really nice.

[00:13:26] Soup now I’m just I’m just listening I’m like gosh now you said the repair I bought it like.

[00:13:33] That and I repaired. Yeah, yeah, I don’t want anyone to misunderstand: it was repaired, because he acquired it in a un-repaired state, exactly, yeah, but he did it. He showed us the repair here before I show it. Looks like new. Yeah, it sure does. Super stearman, super stearman. Oh, that’s the big super steering. Yeah, that’s got the. That hasn’t been flown yet, right, yep, yep, yep, all right, we got a p40 here with the dle 55. Which one’s that? Is that the warhawk? Right, but is that the hanger nine one? Yeah, yep the.

[00:14:07] P40, those are rare, actually. P47 thunderbolt with a 35 on it, by the way, the warhawk, I have two of them, Tom, of course, of course you do one, one not in the box, and one okay. And then, dave patrick, ultimate, I think we. I think that one was on here twice, it’s probably a different one. No, I think you’ve only got one. Yes, okay, so, and that’s a pretty airplane too. Got that one in really good shape. Two qq extras, that’s the, the foamies, right? Yeah, okay, then you have a mamba, the electric one.

[00:14:42] Right because don’t they that’s the I was gonna say that’s the one that he takes off in the span.

[00:14:47] Of how long the plane is, the green and white one. Is that the green and white one, okay? Yeah, yeah, that thing is takes off from the tables. Yeah, it’s, it’s got a little power rate ratio is pretty amazing. But that’s stock actually, isn’t it? Yes, they come with that motor, yeah so, but they, they do a big, like a 120 cc version of that airplane too, don’t they? I’m surprised one of those isn’t on the list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he hasn’t come across it yet. Here’s another pit. It’s a umx one, umx p51, brushless mustang. We’ve got a micro edf f86. That’s probably the umx too. Park zone p51, the grasshopper which.

[00:15:25] Likes that one yep we have a profile s-bock that’s got an os-120 on it we got to figure that.

[00:15:31] One out: the butterfly, the 10 or 15 glow. That’s the glider. That’s the one you started with. Yeah, that’s that’s the first glow that tommy helped me get straightened out that you still have your first.

[00:15:41] Plane yes that’s awesome isn’t that awesome I cannot say that I can’t either I don’t have my.

[00:15:46] First two I yeah I don’t have my first I don’t know how many but the fact that you still have.

[00:15:52] That airplane actually kind of hits me right. Yeah, that was my first glow. I still have my first electric as well, the, the corsair that I bought from. That’s right. That’s right, I thought you started with.

[00:16:04] The with the cub like he did but no it was that corsair the corsair and you still have that one.

[00:16:09] Yes, I do, and also another guy that was a member of the club, bob brad bradford, his grandson. I worked with him and when bob passed he had a couple planes- the addiction which is on there- and the t-28. I still have those as well. Those are my first electrics- awesome, that’s like.

[00:16:30] I’m impressed with your memory of remembering where these came from and all that stuff because.

[00:16:35] That I have. Well, it’s easy to remember when you still have them. Yeah, wow, that look you just gave me. That’s impressively like wow, you could give me the same look, because I don’t have my first one either. All right, it’s a big list. Moving on. So the butterfly: okay, so we got a sop with pup. Oh, that’s the. Yeah, that’s a really pretty airplane. I can’t wait to see that one fly too. That’s that one, yeah. E-flight pits s15. S15, e-flight, oh, pits s1. Yeah, the e-flight super stearman. The e-flight p51.

[00:17:10] With the three cell that’s the bigger of the of the e-flight ones I think I also have the.

[00:17:15] Triplane? I don’t think it’s on there. Okay, all right. Which triplane is that? It’s the one I it’s. Is it a? Is it? Is it got a gas on it? Yes, yeah, okay, so that’s a balsa usa. Yeah, it’s a big.

[00:17:29] One it’s a pretty good size it is a big one but balsa usa makes a huge one too so I think but.

[00:17:36] Yeah nice would that be like quarter scale or something or it’s probably 25 percent or maybe.

[00:17:42] May not be a quite a 30 percent, but it’s not small, yeah, okay. So we got two pulse xts 25es- one of those new in the box, probably, yes, yep. Convergence fpv: oh, that’s one of those ones you fly with goggles, yeah. P47, another electric p47. There’s the t28 edge 540 with the sato 100. That’s a good flying airplane too. Revolver with a 91: yeah, oh, I bet that thing moves. It is very fast. Twist with a 100 on it. Yep, I had one of those briefly brian up at the shop. Has it now stinson?

[00:18:20] Reliant we have a another c plane which c plane is it not the c plane I might have stuck that on.

[00:18:27] There I. You might have already mentioned that I had a. Oh quite, you’re right. Yep, this is the first issue of the c plane. The other one was an escapade, 40 size escapade. Okay, okay, there we go with a 40 size nitro motor on it, Ron two ultimates with the os, four strokes on them and the world model. Yeah, okay, yep, a profile 10.

[00:18:51] Three-foot wing that’s the little bitty plane that real small that yellow one yes I remember that one.

[00:18:56] We did something on that one. It’s a handful. Oh, you’ve blown it. Yes, yes, sweet yeah. E-flight optera- we were talking about that before the show. Seagull ultimate in the box, nice, yeah, two extra 300 cardons in the box. That’s the green and white one, right? Yeah, those are really good flying airplanes too. The hanger 9, 35 cc sized beaver, hanger 9 valiant, which that one moves out pretty good too, as I recall. And then you’ve got a six something extra. We’re getting there, I promise folks, we’re almost there. Six something extra. We have the guiles monster energy, which actually I built that from a

[00:19:30] Midwest gals 202 kit way back in the day. Originally I built that with a sato 180 and you took the 180 off. Oh, no, jason, previous owner, yeah, and then you put a 20 cc on it and made it much better flyer. Here’s another mamba, another guiles, with the 210 mochi on it. Yep, the orange glow with an os 46.

[00:19:49] It’s yeah it’s it’s just a it’s a low wing one that I picked up I don’t even know who it’s just.

[00:19:56] One that I picked up for one of the guys, I think I know it looks kind of like a goldberg tiger for anybody who’s familiar with that. It’s a low wing sport plane- good flying airplane- and then a high wing 25 glow trainer type airplane, buker jungmeister, with a 20 cc on it. Oh, that’s the white and red one that we put together, for he’s got two of those. Okay, sweet one in the box, right on, all right. And then we got a small cap with the os 46. That’s the other, smaller version of the splat plane. Yes, and then we’ve got a micro p51, another one, cessna 182, the t28. That’s this. Is this the bigger?

[00:20:36] T28. You have more than one of the two. I, I, I sold one, I sold, yeah, okay, all right. And then you’ve got the SIG extra. I can’t, I can never pronounce that, sigstra, sigstra, that’s it, yes. And then we’ve got an extra 260 with the 180 on it, carden yak with the dle 55. That’s the one kind of like the one Ron has. I think we’ve got that one on there twice, unless there’s another card jack in there. Oh, there is, that’s why you do have two of them. He does have two of them, that’s right. One with the dle and one

[00:21:09] With the da. All right, all right, the hobby king fidget, which I had to ask you about that because I wasn’t quite familiar with that, but that’s just a little small electric foamy. Yep, sport plane hangar 9, p51 with the 46. So that’s the, the one with the big q on the tail, the tail maybe. Well, I’ve got two of.

[00:21:27] The big ones and I’ve got one’s got the 120 golden knight on it mm-hmm and one’s got a os 46 on it.

[00:21:38] Cool v900. That’s the pylon racer thing, right, yeah, so a little bit of everything here. Small t28 corsair, there’s your original corsair, yes, su 29, and then yep, and that pretty much rounds out.

[00:21:54] The list. Now on the t28s I had two of them on there. That’s because I have one with the fpv camera on it and you could put the goggles on it and get right into the cockpit of it when you fly it. So you.

[00:22:06] Do fpv then yeah, what I’ve tried, that and Ron and I’ve talked about it- makes me sick to my stomach. I can’t do it. There’s no way I can do it either, and that’s unfortunate, because I think it would be fun. It’s really cool. Yeah, yeah, what? So is it what’s it feel like to actually feel like you’re?

[00:22:21] In the cockpit when you’re flying, it’s best to be sitting down when you’re doing it. The first time I did and have a spotter, watch, watch you. Because the first time I did it I put a locator and by the ama you have to have a spotter. Yeah, that’s true. But we took off out at the field, my grandson’s sitting there- it’s just him and I out there- and I got the goggles on and I fly down, I turn, I fly back and the plane starts to roll and I got the glasses on. I really kind of freaked me out and then my grandson was like grandpa, I don’t see it no more. And I’m thinking, oh no, oh no, and I wound.

[00:22:52] Up flying behind myself and then I just let down on the throttle. But we took the locator finder and I had to walk about three quarters of a mile to find it. Oh my god, we found it. It was broke. We took some CA and kicker and put it back together and it still goes. You’ll have to come out to the field and put.

[00:23:11] Those on and I let somebody fly. If somebody else flies, I can probably do it. If I open my eyes for about two seconds at a time, then close them again. I mean it’s pretty cool you can see yourself down on.

[00:23:22] The ground, working the sticks. Yeah, well, we’ve. So, Ron and I, we’ve, we’ve flown with our, with our gopros on the camera or on the airplanes, and that’s. That’s not like fpv, obviously, but no, it’s nothing like it. But like with, with those cameras, we can see ourselves after the fact, but like wearing the goggles, I like you’ve let me try to fly one of your planes with the goggles and it just, I don’t know, it makes me sick to my stomach, the vertigo or whatever it is. Yeah, but yeah, it’s the same with me even.

[00:23:50] Like with the- oh, what the heck is it called drones? No, even with the, with the vr, like the vr headsets and stuff, I can’t do that for more than five or ten minutes, and that’s only if it’s something not moving. When it’s when it starts moving in the game and stuff, I’m game over. Oh, there you go. I like

[00:24:10] That it’s almost instantaneous. Now, see, when I- when I got into it- the tommy at when you work for a hammer- I bought my first little drone, you flew it out the door, out into the, out of the place, and you flew it around and flew it back in and that’s what made me want to get one, and my grandson and I, I was like, well, okay, I something. We did a lot together because we went to the hobby shop and we did these drone races and kind of got used to it, and then we’d be in the house with these little drones flying. It’d be one room, I’d be in the other and we’d be flying through the house.

[00:24:43] That’s cool, it’s pretty cool. So what, like what size would that have been? It’s just the tiny. It’s that tiny whoop. Yeah, I don’t remember what, yeah, but yeah, I would rather not like everybody know that.

[00:24:54] By the way what well I for as much as I talk down about drones yeah I used to I used to fly them.

[00:25:00] Occasionally. Well, I mean I have what four of them do? I mean it’s, it’s not like they’re, it’s not like they’re the devil, they’re okay, but they’re just not what we prefer. I think he was just selling it.

[00:25:11] He sold it worked it did 107 airplanes later yeah that worked see yeah it kept him going for.

[00:25:21] Quite a while. Okay, so you have all these airplanes and you have them like everywhere in your house and stuff which, once again, but not everywhere, like I said before he, oh my gosh. When I say everywhere, I mean when you look in the room, when you look in the airplane room, it is airplanes. Yes, as I was saying, how do you decide which ones you want to fly when you fly? That’s hard, that’s really.

[00:25:47] Hard it’s. It takes a while. It takes a while to figure out some of the bigger ones depends on I. I have the big one I have and it takes somebody else to help me get it outside. Yeah, and it’s usually. The biplanes are nice. If the wings are attached, it’s not a lot to do. I’ve got the 40 size, which is really nice because the wings are on. Yeah, it’s a good size. I can haul them right out to the, put them in and gas them up and go. Yep see.

[00:26:14] I, I hear your list and you have a lot of biplanes. That is my problem with biplanes is it’s twice the wing that you have to deal with. Store and move. Yeah, not to keep them in one piece. Yeah, some of the wings.

[00:26:25] Actually are pretty easy. That the, the pitch challenger, I have the. That is really simple. A lot of people’s like, oh, biplanes, it takes a long time to put them together and the way the guy that built this, I mean it, it’s pretty quick, they go together really well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if I remember, he, he.

[00:26:42] Built a almost like a, like a jig, almost, that holds the end of the wings exactly where they need to be. So they just slide right onto the fuselage and you install a couple bolts and you’re off to the other side. It’s, it’s really quick, actually. Well, I mean like even the, the super sky bolt you have.

[00:26:59] That was mine. That wasn’t too bad, because the bottom wing goes on with two wing bolts like a normal airplane, right, and then the top wing has two screws that hold it on to the, the center, center, cabane, cabane- I didn’t know that’s what it’s called, but anyway. And then the, the struts that go up and down are thumb screws, so that’s easy to do, but that’s still like I don’t know. If I had a ton of those airplanes, I would expect to lose the struts, the. I mean just, it’s just. I could see that.

[00:27:27] And, by the by the way, my, just about every one of my planes have wing bags. Yeah, because I’m really well, I guess I wouldn’t lose them if I had wing bags, right, right, and but that’s true. When we put the pits together there at the warehouse, tommy, that was really simple. I mean, you would think, eclipse the way that it was built. Yeah, that went together really. Yeah, it’s very simple. Yeah, like

[00:27:48] The manufacturers. They do, they do the best they can to make it so that you want to fly the airplanes, yeah, more of their airplanes, right? So they, yeah, they. I don’t think they’re these days. I don’t think they’re they’re any more or less work than a regular old space walker. I’ll tell you what you.

[00:28:04] Do you buy you buy it wrong I almost did you buy a big trailer you put the wings on at home put the.

[00:28:10] Plane in the trailer and you’re good to go. That’s the other thing. So bob, since he started in this, has bought a huge trailer. What’s what’s the size on that one? It’s a 20 foot. 20 Foot, I think, maybe 22, I’m not.

[00:28:20] Sure it’s probably at least 22 with the v nose yeah it’s an enclosed it’s a nice trailer it’s.

[00:28:25] Enough to fit a lot of airplanes it could probably fit about half of bob’s collection in.

[00:28:30] It at any given time maybe no I got I’ve got the racks in there set to adjust the wheel size so.

[00:28:38] That way, yeah, you can wow. That’s like he puts us to shame, like I mean, for sure we sit here and we don’t have anything to say because bob just has outdone everything. He’s got the trailer, he’s got the airplanes, he’s got everything. He’s got it. He’s got warehouses for it. Yeah, it’s not just in your.

[00:28:58] House. I hope my wife don’t hear this. It’s okay, bob, we say that often. We do, actually, and my wife doesn’t listen anymore, so we’re good. Yeah, lori listens once in a while. Well, I’m not sure if she catches every episode. That’s okay, bob. You mentioned what. What got you into the hobby? You’re welcome, do you? Do you remember like? Obviously you remember like it was yesterday because you’re you have a really, really great memory. I vaguely remember flying that drone.

[00:29:31] Periodically- and it’s funny, because that was indeed the idea of flying one of those around the shop for customers was to get them to buy them. Right, if I had known what, what, where, where it would have gone before the next decade. Yeah, I probably would have tried to sell you something, maybe a little nicer. What does that mean? Well, but I mean like if I had known that airplanes were going to be his primary thing, that really gets him going, I would have tried to sell you an airplane like the cub that you started with Ron. Yeah,

[00:30:05] That was a good airplane to start with what I’m saying, like that’s what I would have tried. But like I remember vaguely that, like you said, you were looking kind of for trains and I don’t think it was well. It may have been that visit, but it seemed like you were really kind of not sure what you wanted. You just wanted something to play with the grandson, I think at the time. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, but had I known I would have started you off with a cub for sure, or something similar. So it’s just, it’s just funny to me how we remember things. Like I remember things differently than you.

[00:30:39] Do Ron. And then, oh yeah, and then I remember, like, like it was yesterday us tuning that butterfly right there on the steps at the, at the shop, oh yep, and I thought like I would have thought that was your first airplane, but that wasn’t, no, it was that corsair, and I’ve completely

[00:30:56] Forgotten about that. See where I learned how to fly I. I wound up buying from that shop. I bought the phoenix flight simulator, yeah, and the controller and I went home and practiced and practiced on the computer, yeah. And then, with those phone planes I had, I went out to fly them and I couldn’t wait. And once I got it in the air, I couldn’t wait to get it on the ground. Like the guys are going, oh, don’t land it, don’t land it, fly it. And I said I don’t want to see if I can land.

[00:31:22] It. Yeah and yep, yeah. For me it’s still more fun, I think, to just take off and land than it is to fly around. Yeah, because landings can be beautiful if done right, right, and they’re very.

[00:31:34] It just makes you feel good about yourself and that’s like one of the things I like to do the most is just take off and land touching goes. It’s one of my favorite things to do with the.

[00:31:45] Planes all planes are different though I mean some of them will float in some of them you got.

[00:31:50] To fly. Man, that’s right. Yeah, and you’ve learned that over the years. Yes, you’ve developed a pretty good technique: you fly them all the way down to the runway, yeah, which is a great technique, instead of chopping the throttle and letting them float down and get about five or six landings on the. Yeah, exactly, yeah, ounces, yeah, so I mentioned that if I could go back in time, I would I’ve started you off on a different path, so to speak. If you knew, like if you could go back 10 years when you first got in, knowing everything about the hobby, that now would you have done.

[00:32:24] Anything differently? No, I don’t think so. Yeah, I, I mean, I love it. I, yeah, I really enjoy flying and yeah, a lot of people are like: man, isn’t that expensive? Not, really, not once you learn how to fly.

[00:32:37] Yeah it doesn’t have to be 107 airplanes though that well but I mean like you don’t have to go out.

[00:32:43] And buy 100 airplanes that’s true yeah you can enjoy the hobby yes with much for much less than.

[00:32:50] That you have one airplane and a couple batteries or nitro fuel, whatever. Yeah, you can, you can very easily do it. But speaking of bad, do how many batteries you have. No, but I can’t imagine.

[00:33:04] Yeah, Tom knows a lot about the battery. Honestly, though, bob doesn’t have like a lot of electric airplanes. I mean he’s got a few, but I know. But I’ve seen large. Yeah, his, his collection is gas or nitro.

[00:33:15] But I’ve still seen like the ammo cans of batteries he brings to the field when he comes out for a day and that puts me to shame when he just brings like one airplane that’s electric to fly and then the

[00:33:25] Rest are nitro or gas. Well, he likes to fly, so he flies a lot, flies a lot more than I do. Well, both of us put together, probably, and he’s got more planes than both of us together, oh yeah, so if you had known, bob, that you were gonna have, well, let me ask, let me ask that in a different way: did you think that when you started in the hobby, you would end up at a point where you’d have this many airplanes? No, no, yeah. That seems to be the, the overwhelming response from anybody we ask that question to.

[00:33:55] Well, I had a little help with that because in my job in the winter time I pushed snow and stuff and I became friends with paul at the hobby shop and I would- I would take in-store credit for clearing the lot. Oh, that’s brilliant, yeah. And then I would that way. And then they had the ebay part and a friend of mine worked in the ebay and he’s like: hey, bob got some planes here, you gotta come and check them out. And oh, that’s brilliant, yeah, it’s all about how.

[00:34:21] Exactly, yeah, yeah. Well, and a follow-up to that question, though, that we never, we never- extrapolated out. So where we were 10 years ago to now, where do we think we’ll be in 10 years?

[00:34:34] From now oh man yeah what do you think about I have no room to put in any I mean 214 no that’s scary.

[00:34:43] I mean that doesn’t that sort of logically follow. I mean, 107 at 10 years should be 214 at 20 years. That’s a lot of them. It is a lot of them. So, bob, without, without divulging too much,

[00:34:57] Information. Where do you store all these airplanes? A lot of them at home. Yeah, I like to keep them in the controlled environment where you control the temperature, so it doesn’t mess with the ball, so it doesn’t mess with the covering, or I like it to look nice when I get it to the field and I see those planes that no one takes out there and I was like I want that one and

[00:35:19] And just trying to take care of them. I, I know you get that many planes, you get hanging rash and now that hurts, yeah, just moving around them where you’ve dense something or you. Yes, Tom, you fixed, we’ve all done it, yeah, I mean, yeah, we have put a you.

[00:35:34] Know put a propeller tip through a piece of covering in the wing yeah I mean we’ve all we’ve all.

[00:35:39] Done that. And that turtle deck, yeah, yeah, or had someone crush a turtle deck for you. Now see, that’s what got me to get the trailer, because I was holding, I had the 50 cc in the back of my truck, I had my flight box back there and I had. I went to turn my flight box, fell over and poked a hole in my plane. That’s like, oh, no, I can’t have that, no, I got to do something different. Yep, so a 20 foot trailer.

[00:36:03] Comes to mind I mean that’s that’s awesome that’s that’s maybe when you have big airplanes.

[00:36:10] Like requires it requires a big trailer. Yeah, I mean so you, obviously you. You fly with the club we talked about the same club that we fly at- yeah, which is nice. But you also fly other locations, mostly the foamies and just, and you fly with Reggie, yeah, which is always entertaining to us because you always- well, I shouldn’t say too much because Reggie might be listening, but occasionally we get gouge or we get information on stuff before Reggie is willing to.

[00:36:42] Divulge it to us which I appreciate I do too I don’t know how to word that more nicely but.

[00:36:49] There’s been a few things you’re right Reggie has not told us that we have found out about from.

[00:36:54] Other sources? Yeah, and we appreciate that, but so what’s it like? So obviously we don’t get to fly with Reggie as often as you do. What is what is a typical day of flying with Reggie out at the church?

[00:37:07] What is that like? Hey, bob, you only brought one plane. Yeah, so Reggie takes 18 airplanes with him every time he flies. Yeah, he sets up- might be exaggerating a little bit. Yeah, he sets up and kind of looks like capitol airport around his truck. Yeah,

[00:37:24] Well, he means business, like when he goes to fly, he wants to fly everything he has, which, by the way. So I set a goal for myself for this summer: I want to fly every airplane I have that’s ready to fly or that can be flown. At least once. And Ron, I think, was kind of waffling on that. He thought maybe Reggie said he would. He, he was going to try that as well, and we know what Reggie’s number is. We had him on the show with a number like yours. Do you think that would be a something that you’d be able?

[00:37:57] To do in the summertime? No, no, I would like to. I would. I thought about that when I heard you say that I would like to be able to fly the ones I haven’t flown yet. And I’ve flown most of them. Yeah, no, I think. I think that’s a reasonable, but then, as well as I do, there’s the ones that you really like and you like how they fly and it’s like, it’s like, well, that was, that’s gonna go. We’re gonna take maybe one of these other ones that I haven’t flown. And yeah, we had the breakfast last year and that 80, 80 cc. I got out there early, out of the field, and I put everything.

[00:38:30] Together and something didn’t seem right. And one of the guys about the challenger- yes, the smaller one, yep, yeah, the 80 cc. And one of the guys was like go ahead and fly. And I was like I just don’t feel good about it. So, keeping that mind, if you don’t feel comfortable, don’t do it. Don’t let other people talk you into doing it. Yeah, because that’s when usually something happens. Well, he left and went down to the breakfast and I went through it and I figured out what was wrong and I flew it just with me and my grandson there and it was beautiful. They all watched from the breakfast place and it was.

[00:38:58] Awesome, yeah, yeah, I mean, how many times have I mean, let’s be honest, how many times have we pushed Reggie? Hey, Reggie, you should, I really I mean good friends, yeah, we probably shouldn’t do that, but he, we rip each other, he caves, I mean he, sometimes, he, he takes that chance and, yeah, shame on us for provoking him. But at the same time, if you’re not comfortable flying it, don’t fly it, all right.

[00:39:25] Figure, figure out what’s going on. First, we was out the field one day and it was pretty windy and I had the valiant out there and he had one of his planes and he’s like, hey, hey, let’s, let’s fly, are you going to take that up? And I was like, well, I don’t know, man, it’s pretty windy. So I got it out on the runway and the wind was blowing, the back end around and I the rudder, I couldn’t. I was like, nope, not flying it. And I’ve seen a lot of stuff happen to where guys mess up planes because you got guys in the background going, hey, go ahead, take it up, take it up. And

[00:39:56] Yep, yep, and you and you got to do a flight check on everything. You got to check if your ailerons are hooked up, if you’re going the right way, or- yeah, Ron, Ron, and I preach that all the time- yes, that’s pre-flight, pre-flight, pre-flight. Yeah, and check your battery, check the load on your battery. Checking your battery may not be enough. You put a load on it and that’s right, absolutely if they zero.

[00:40:15] Out pretty quick then it’s not yep it’s not a good thing to fly it’s not worth flying with if the.

[00:40:20] Battery is not right. Yeah, for sure. So the next question: do you fly with a? Do you have a certain group of people that you like to fly with? For you, it’s, it’s mostly whoever happens to be at the field when you’re flying, because you fly a lot, yeah, which. So I mean, do you have a certain group of people that you prefer to fly with? Or yeah, and you don’t have to like these guys right here with me, but yeah, no, honestly fun, yeah, but

[00:40:49] We don’t make it out as often as we should right but when you’re out there with all these guys the.

[00:40:53] Best thing to do is stand back and watch them and you’ll see who you want to fly with. Like I know, and I want to pull my airplane back because this guy’s got he’s a little shaky on his landings and right, sure, and I think, I think when you fly with someone that you’re.

[00:41:09] Familiar flying with. Then there’s a certain amount of trust and that sort of puts everybody at ease so you can be working on your plane in the pit and not have to worry about watching the skies to make sure- yeah, what I’m saying, something’s not coming your way. So, yeah, I think that’s getting a group of friends that you’re comfortable flying with. I think promotes more flying. Oh, I agree, that makes sense what I’m saying. Yeah, I think the best thing to do is

[00:41:35] Is kind of watch and see who you want to fly with. No, you don’t, I mean it’s. There’s some. When I the butterfly, for example, when I first went out there, when I first started flying, one of the guys had one just like it and I watched him fly- I was like, wow, this guy can help me trim this. And he’s like. I was like, hey, you want, can you fly this? He’s like, oh yeah, yeah, I can fly that. And I said would you fly it? And he said you sure? And I said yeah, so he takes off and flies right into the pole out there. Oh my god, he’s like man, it’s not even a kit, no more.

[00:42:09] But no he just he destroyed the wings and tell me you help me get another set of wings on it yeah.

[00:42:14] Yeah bob’s always good about having other people fly his airplanes like he will offer it.

[00:42:20] Oh he’s very generous yeah for sure and you are too though I mean to me anyway it depends on.

[00:42:26] The person yeah absolutely yeah but I yeah I don’t know it’s weird I always offer there must be.

[00:42:32] Something wrong with my airplanes? Why? Because I offer my airplanes to you guys to fly all the time and nobody ever flies them. Well, of course not why I don’t fly other people’s airplanes.

[00:42:44] Yeah, I, I, I tell you what my, my grandson, him and I, we flew. It was the whole idea of getting into it and he had one of the guys out there gave him a plane. Well, I, he’s like grandpa, grandpa, let’s fly this, get it in the air. And I was like, okay, okay, so I trying to get my stuff and do his stuff for him. And I didn’t do a flight check, not like I should have. Yeah, so put the battery in there and it was, somebody launched it and the elevator is backwards. So when I took off, I slammed it into the ground. He’s standing there crying, he’s like.

[00:43:17] What’d you do that for and I was like that was the last time I flew anybody’s plane oh no don’t.

[00:43:22] Want to fly your plane? I gotcha, yeah, I. Even if you see, like, let’s take, for example, my yellow stick, which you flew before you gave it to me and then I’ve flown it for a couple of years, three or four years now. Fly is awesome, but you still won’t fly it, even when I offer it to you. That’s your plane, but you offer your planes all the time to me. So why is that? Why is that different? I?

[00:43:43] Don’t understand it’s an unfair double standard that I completely understand yeah so like I.

[00:43:48] Get, if you’re comfortable, like I want someone else to- to experience how great this airplane flies. It’s not about- yeah, there’s been times when anybody or anything like that. It’s just: man, I’m having such a good time flying this bob, check this out and check how much fun this is, but you won’t.

[00:44:03] Fly just like this flat plane. Tommy is like you took it up. He goes: oh man, this flies great, it’s like here, you want to fly it. I was like: no, go ahead, you’re good, I’m filming and I got- I got heckled about that from Reggie. Oh, of course, yeah, and that is a good flying airplane and that’s your plane.

[00:44:18] Even, yeah, yeah, not mine at all. Like I don’t even think I had any skin in the gap, like I don’t did I even work on it up to that point. I don’t think I did. I think you just showed up and yeah.

[00:44:27] You helped me with you helped me with the receiver and lining everything out anyway, but I’ve taken it a few times by myself. Yeah, you’ve flown it now. Yeah, and it is a great flying airplane, hopefully.

[00:44:38] Someday I end up with that airplane. I’m just saying: all right, so let’s move on to something else. Do you have, do you have, a favorite crash story that you like to tell? Well, like we all have our favorite, whatever the scenario is, do you have a favorite story? Well, I’m a crash story of.

[00:44:58] Your own not of watching ready yeah we all well we have one of those two but yeah it goes back.

[00:45:04] When I first started. Okay, now, it was a 50 cc plane and it was like I said, I was going out to the field every morning before I’d go to work and I would swing by and pick one of my employees and he’d go. I didn’t check. I checked the battery, but I didn’t put a load on the battery. Okay, and it was- I think it was a LiPo battery, maybe- okay, and I got the plane started and where our pits are there and the tree line is at the west end of the field, yep, I started it up and

[00:45:40] Checked, everything looked good and I took off and it was so nice. And then it’s like, oh, I haven’t got anything, what’s going on? And it just went and went and went and I had to get my truck and drive to the other end of the field. It was something that on the other side of the tree line- yeah, oh my gosh.

[00:45:54] That’s a, that’s a three-quarter mile. Yeah, yeah, more. Yeah, half to three quarters maybe. Yeah, that’s a good one, good way, always, yeah. So the battery, the battery, yeah, yeah, which, ironically enough, a half to three-quarters of a mile away is how far Reggie flies his 40 size planes. And that was that was like.

[00:46:11] That was like one of the ones that really kind of hurt my feelings. I’m sure I didn’t, I didn’t share that with nobody. I was like, yeah, but then I had out the field. It probably was last year, a couple years ago. I got another guy that I fly with and he called me up, said, hey, you want to go flying? I was like, well, it’s pretty windy out. And he goes, oh, come on, you chicken. And I was like, no, I’ll meet you out there. So we went out there and there we go, and I had the corn. The corn was up. So on the corn. Really there’s a lot of turbulence over the top of the corner and I thought I had plenty of ground speed and I was moving.

[00:46:42] Along and I got it right at the corn. It slammed it down the ground. He’s like: I don’t think I would you tell me before. Yeah, yeah, no good, aren’t you the one that told me to come out here and fly? And then he flew. One time was like, oh, I’m done, I’m not flying anymore. But yeah, that’s, that’s the.

[00:46:58] Problem with the corn out there is when it gets high. You get you really getting a feeling of, oh, there’s not a lot of wind here, even though a little higher, yeah, and feet in the air there is, yeah, and it’s just, I don’t know, false sense of security, thinking you’re okay, yeah, you’re really not, yeah it.

[00:47:13] Rolls across the top of the corn. Yeah, and just like yeah, bob’s saying even like, so, yeah, you’re protected in between the, the stands of corn and, like you said, you get above the corn. But then there’s that like transition zone where the, where the wind is coming over the top of the corn and then it dives down and creates these weird eddy corners right across the runway that you just can’t see them. And, yeah, if it’s a windy day and the corn is up, I, unless the wind is right out of the west or east- yes, right down the runway- then you’re usually pretty okay. But if there’s any kind of a

[00:47:46] Crosswind or crosswind. Well, I remember the time- I don’t remember, bob, you’ve been out there with us too- when we had the, the little cyclone thing that just came out of nowhere. Yes, I was, yeah, yeah, you could just watch it come across the corn and then you could see exactly where it went across, because it was picking up some leaves and stuff coming across the field and went right behind us and it’s.

[00:48:04] Like what, where did that come from? Like those weird currents that, yeah, come across the corn. So glad I wasn’t flying through that, yeah. So this next question. I know the answer to this one, but I’m going to ask it anyway. Do you like going to swap meets, bob? Yeah, oh man, like who doesn’t right? Like, if you’re into rc airplanes and you don’t enjoy going to swap meets, well you’re silly. Yeah, there’s something wrong with you that the swap meets are so much fun, and not just because you can buy stuff, but just to like. If you’ve been in the hobby a while, you can kind of reminisce when you see something.

[00:48:36] Older or you see something that hasn’t been available for a while or if you haven’t been in the.

[00:48:40] Hobby you can see things that you didn’t even know were out there yeah that too like that’s.

[00:48:45] That’s kind of what I like. Yeah, yeah, and good practice. If you see something there that you like, you better get it, because you go by and you think, man, that looks nice, that looks nice, and you go by two or three times before it’s gone. Yeah, that’s where tommy and I are completely.

[00:48:57] Opposite. Yeah, I, Ron, and I differ on that. See, I’m I’m a weight kind of a guy because, let’s be honest, like I don’t have 107 airplanes, but I’ve got enough, like three or four, like I don’t need another airplane, right? Like not really. So if I see an airplane I like it’s like well, I’ll let this one. If it’s still here when I leave, then maybe it was meant to be- I don’t get it. I don’t like feel that need to get it before. See, I think that’s the difference, like bob and I are.

[00:49:28] Probably closer in the fact that when we see that we’ve both been bitten in the long run, where if we’ve waited too long it’s gone, so you buy it now- see, but that’s what I’m saying- like you fall in love at first sight, okay, I see well, and if I mean that is awesome, I want it now. The dave patrick.

[00:49:44] Ultimate. I looked at that. I was like, yeah, that’s really nice. That’s really nice. But the longer I waited and everybody kept on passing it up and then my buddy was like, hey, are you going?

[00:49:53] To get that. That’s nice price kept getting lower, exactly. Yeah, it got down there. Yeah, I feel like you got a really good, like I love that airplane. Yeah, and we ran that one, yes, at the at the warehouse. And man, what a good looking airplane that is. It’s a biplane, by the way. Yeah, one of like 25. I don’t know, bob, do you prefer building and tinkering or do you prefer fly like? Which of the two do you enjoy?

[00:50:19] More well, I don’t mind a little bit of covering, but as far as gets getting into a little bit of covering, fixing, making the clean and nice, I’m not, I’m a contractor, so I want to leave that at work. But the building part, yeah, I can do a little patch or what have you. Or I just want to take it to the field and I want to look nice, yep, so you prefer, like of the two, you would prefer to fly, yes, and build, yeah. So any interest in like building a kit or anything like that? No, not the patience. I mean that’s yeah. And then with where am I going to?

[00:50:54] Do that. That’s a really, that’s a really good point. Yeah, that’s yeah, but yeah, and I, I know, I know when you build like Tom does, when you do you’ve got stuff- is it isn’t nothing’s gonna happen real quick. Yeah, you’re gonna work on something for a while. There’s only so much you can do and you gotta, you gotta wait and wait and wait, and that’s hard for me.

[00:51:17] Yeah I get that I do too yeah that’s why I usually work on more than one thing at a time.

[00:51:21] Yeah, and I’ve noticed as I’ve gotten older I’ve gotten more patient. Some people it’s the opposite: they’re patient when they’re young, but then when they get older they become less patient. So when I was a noob- is that the proper term, I guess- and the hobby way back when I didn’t like to build either, like I, I couldn’t stand sitting there waiting for something because I just wanted to go fly it right. Yeah. But as I’ve gotten older it’s kind of gone the other way. I actually prefer to build rather than fly. I mean, I’m not saying I don’t.

[00:51:52] Like flying I’m just saying it’s but it’s it’s weird how that changes over time maybe that’ll change.

[00:51:57] For you, bob. Yeah, well, I’ve seen you do. You helped me with some of my stuff and I kind of I tried to watch closely and just like those wires on that pitch I was, I was going to take them to you and heaven I was like I can probably do this, you can do that, and I did and turned out really nice.

[00:52:11] It turned out really nice. So see, there you go, see you’re, I’ll turn you into a builder yet yeah, slowly, it’s okay. Do you? Do you prefer balsa planes or foam planes? Balsa, oh, that a boy? Yes,

[00:52:23] That almost didn’t need to be asked. I mean, I knew the answer to that too. But the batteries too, that’s. That’s another whole story, because when you got the phone in a balsa plane, when you run out of fuel, you got enough airspeed, you can bring that baby down. When you’re in a foam plane, your battery goes out. It’s going to come down its own and it won’t be the same. Yeah, it depends on.

[00:52:44] The on the type of airplane it is. You still have a little bit of glide time with some of them, but that’s why you set a timer, yeah, and you don’t have to worry about that, which, like I said, with battery it’s. It’s cool because how long it’s going to last and you don’t have to worry about it dying, whereas with nitro, that dirty old nitro, you do well, unless, unless the cell goes dead unexpectedly. And then you have: how often does that happen? Well, it happens, not often at all, but it happens. But then it’s a spectacular fireball that comes down. But then, when you got a good tuner at

[00:53:17] The field see you don’t have to worry about that but is he a good tuner though I mean.

[00:53:22] Because I feel like I’ve seen a lot of dead six with, with tommy flying on his own place. Yeah, but on mine, what? Which one are you talking about the Telemaster? No, that was. That’s a no. No, no, I understand that was.

[00:53:36] One. I was trying to think there’s what. Oh, maybe that was one of Reggie’s airplanes you were flying, I don’t remember. I’ve seen you dead stick one like several times in a row.

[00:53:46] Well, I did stick that new one of mine, that one I got at the swami, the little yellow one, maybe that’s one. Was that more than once, though no, I only flew it the once. Yeah, okay, because it dead sticked on me. So I didn’t fly it again. I didn’t feel like tinkering with it the rest of the day because I was mad at it. Did you get that fixed yet? No, no. So, bob, nitro, gasoline or electric, what’s your preference? Do you have one gasoline? You like the gasoline? Yeah, that’s great, no, I like. I like the gasoline stuff too. It’s just unfortunate it’s it’s down in the 40 size. They don’t make a gasser.

[00:54:17] That’s really reliable yeah right easier to run down in that size but as soon as they do yeah.

[00:54:23] It’ll be gas for me too eventually. The bigger planes, I like the motor that, the actual, yeah, the low planes are nice, I mean, but the you can’t beat the sound right, exactly, yeah, and you.

[00:54:38] Know the gasoline it’s less mess obviously so and a lot cheaper well I don’t know these days the price.

[00:54:44] Of gas still a lot cheaper we don’t we don’t even know what nitro is right now not right now we don’t.

[00:54:49] I’m afraid to look honestly, but luckily, I kind of stocked up on nitro when, when it was still reasonable- no, still 35 a gallon, no, 32. Well, no, I bought that ys 2020 blend, which I can run in all my satos also down at the hobby shop in st louis. That time, I remember I bought like four gallons. Oh, I wasn’t with you on that one, I forgot, no. But how much was that, though? I want to say it was like 29. I think I paid 29 for it. Okay, so, which is? It’s not great? No, not for a gallon, but anyway that’s.

[00:55:23] Okay, so bob of your airplanes. I think I know the answer to this one too. But so, do you like tricycle type landing gear, or like our tail draggers, or no gear or no gear, tail draggers- yes, there’s just something about a tail dragger. It’s classic, yeah, conventional, there seems to.

[00:55:47] Be a lot cooler airplanes that are tail draggers than there are tricycle or standard gear.

[00:55:53] But also the tracks. Tricycle gear is okay, but when you, when you’re flying that, that elevator, you got to get good ground speed to take off. That tail is going to come up. You need to keep it on the ground and then you just know when to take it up. Yeah, yeah, and for me the

[00:56:11] Tricycle adds complexity. Yeah, what I mean? Because now you got to have the steerable nose wheels so you have to have a push rod off your rudder or a separate. I mean just, it adds extra weight. I’d rather just do away with the nose gear and put a tail, a tail wheel on it and call it good. I don’t blame you so, yeah, most of mine are tail draggers. Yep, bob, do you have a favorite airplane? Yeah,

[00:56:35] I’ve learned that you don’t have favorites all of them are my favorites but it’s like when you.

[00:56:42] Ask about your kids you have a favorite kid really they’re all my favorite yes but you don’t want to.

[00:56:47] Say it to hurt. Okay, so how about this? Do you have an airplane that’s like your go-to, like when you, when you only have a few minutes to prepare, or you’re going to go fly the next day or whatever, and do you have an airplane that you? It’s just all reliable? Yeah, it was a stick that you built for me. Which one is that? It’s the. It’s a 60 size. Great planes, big stick 60. Okay, I remember that version. Yeah, yeah, which we’re gonna. We’re gonna see if we can find you another one, but yeah, I, I get that because man sticks fly awesome. Yes, I mean they are, they do. I’ve still never flown one. What you’ve got.

[00:57:23] I’m working on it. Give me time. Well, you could have if you just fly mine. I won’t do that. Offer it to you, gosh darn it. Moving on, bob. Do you got anything you’re working on right now? No, I, I, I’ve, I’ve got a.

[00:57:40] The os profile on the sbox that keeps on blowing the muffler off and I haven’t figured out why that is. We’re gonna. We’re gonna figure that out, so that’s. That’s about everything else. I think I’ve got it under control. I’ve the spitfire that we ran and we couldn’t get anything out high end. I hope I’ve got that figured out to where you could help me tune the high end to see.

[00:58:04] Yeah yep yeah I remember what did you find on that I forgot well when I went to.

[00:58:11] Change the fuel tubes in the tank. I pulled the tube. I was going to pull the pull the gas line off the outside and that the tube come apart like it was probably could have been sucking air from the.

[00:58:22] Plastic tube. Yeah, it wasn’t a tight connection on the on the line going into the tank. I remember now, yep, yeah, so if you fix that, I bet that fixes that and then that’ll be an easy. Yeah, I’ve got a few of.

[00:58:33] That I want to run that pits that I just got and we ran one of them but yeah to run the.

[00:58:40] Other one and the spitfire and cool. So I mean I’m not going to issue the challenge, right, I’m not going to try to say, hey, you should fly everything you have this summer that’s flyable, but do you have any like any plans or any kind of goals for the for the next flying season? Yeah, I want to try to fly.

[00:59:00] I want to try to fly my big one, the big the. The guy I bought it from, he built both the challengers and he was like: fly the small one first. So I did that, I did a fine job. So that was pretty much saying that I even fly this. Yeah, you’re good to go. Yeah, everyone, yep. So that’s that. That would be one goal for this summer. Then, yeah, the big, the big challenge, I’ll have to have one. You.

[00:59:20] Guys, come by, help me get it on my house. We’d be happy to. Yeah, so the bigger they are- we’ve said this before- the easier they fly. Oh, yes, but the harder it is to fly them, because you just, you just don’t want to see anything happen to them. Oh, because you’re nervous. Yeah, yeah, like mentally, mentally difficult to fly, as opposed to how hard it actually is. There you go back to checking everything: check everything, battery, right, everything. It’s still that unseen thing that has happened to all of us that no matter how much you check, something is going to happen. And that’s the. That’s the part.

[00:59:54] I don’t like: yeah, no, I get that, and the bigger they are, the more spectacular the crash is. So there’s that and the more bags you need.

[01:00:08] Oh that is true anyway well anything else you guys want to talk about or.

[01:00:12] We’re about ready to get out of here no bob do you want to give a shout out to anybody or.

[01:00:16] Anything like that before we sign off. Sangamon valley rc flyers. I hope you listen to it. There we go. All right, there you go. I am the safety guy this year. So no flying over the pits, no flying over the roads, and we know who I’m talking about there. All right, so there’s your, there’s your warning.

[01:00:34] Who we’re talking to yeah so no flying over the road and yeah don’t fly over the pits.

[01:00:40] Yep that’s all I got yeah all right me too well bob thanks for stopping by thanks for having.

[01:00:45] Me we’ll have to do it again sometime yeah thanks for thanks for agreeing to talk to us.

[01:00:50] On the show it’s been nice cool thank you all right until next time I’m Ron I’m Tom and I’m bob.

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