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[0:00] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I'm Ron. I'm Tom. And I'm Dave. I don't think we can actually start a podcast without somebody coughing, clearing their throat, or doing something. Even after I say, are we all ready? During the intro. It's usually me. It's a nervous reaction. It could be. I'll just warn everybody, I will probably be doing a lot of that on this episode because I've been sick. That's what I was going to say. So you're going to be.
[0:38] He's quarantined off in the corner. Just like right now, coughing. I apologize in advance. I appreciate you plowing through it. It's because I enjoy it so much. Making it out here to talk about toy airplanes. Yes, I do enjoy talking about toy airplanes. Yeah, who doesn't? Yes. Well, those that are weird, I suppose. Hey, before we get started, before we get started, if you don't mind, I would like to take a second to thank all of our patrons. Haven't done that in a while. Long time.
[1:07] But yeah, thanks for the folks that go out of their way and give us a little bit of their own hard-earned cashola. We really, really appreciate that. And then to follow up with that, we don't use that money to buy airplanes. Just saying. It goes back into the podcast. Yeah. And actually, we just had It goes back into the podcast. Yeah. And actually, we just had bills come due for the podcast in January. Oh, there we go. That works out well. Perfect timing.
[1:30] So thank you to everybody that has done that. And if you don't do that and you would like to, it's super easy. Just click the link. Why are you laughing at me? I'm just waiting to see how you tell people to do it. Well, you are probably better at it than me. So why don't you tell them how to do it? No, I want you to go first. Come on. Well, there's a Patreon link on our website. rcplanelab.com. Just go there and click the link, and you can sign up to give us money.
[1:59] I mean, it's pretty much that simple. It is that simple, exactly. If you want to. Yeah. But we really appreciate it. helps to keep the podcast going and like i said we i promise we don't spend that on airplanes as much as we would want to especially ron he buys lots of airplanes i have actually i'm down for the year for the year and i we'll talk about later but i think you're up for the year
[2:28] year and i we'll talk about later but i think you're up for the year already we'll talk oh i guess yeah you are technically because i'm down three already for the year one of them is yeah so i'm up one so i also wanted to say before we get into anything else i have added a calendar of events to the website i think that's kind of. So anything that we're going to be doing this year, which is very slim pickings right now, because we haven't nailed down a lot of
[2:51] events yet. Yeah, but events to be added. We have plans that we want to attend a lot of them. So yeah, but yeah, calendar events on the website. And there's also a little form you can fill out underneath of it if you have any events you would like us to go to. Yeah. Especially if they're feasible, we will try. I was going to say, especially if it's central Illinois or not too far of a drive. Right. There's a form on there to fill it out.
[3:16] Let us know what you got, and we will try and see if we can fit it in. Yep. It's outside of Ron's comfort zone. He doesn't like meeting new people, but I really do. So, like, when we ran into the folks last year at Toledo, that was a really good time. So, if you want to know where we're going and you want to meet us, meet the team, just check out the calendar of events. You make me sound like such a hermit. Well, you kind of are. Okay. I mean, I guess I can't argue that.
[3:41] I mean, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. No, that's okay. As long as he doesn't wear a shell, we're okay. I'm getting better. You are. I'm getting better. I'm more willing to do things that are not at my house. You are a published author now. Published author. Yeah, you've got a review in Model Aviation. Yeah, I don't know what that had to do with anything, but thank you. That was months ago. That's out of your comfort zone. Yeah, but I don't have to physically
[4:04] talk to people. Yeah, but that's pictures of you out there in the ethos. As long as I don't think about it. That's why we're here as support. Yes, exactly. Yeah. I appreciate it. Thanks, guys. We'll talk to anybody. We don't care. That's true. Especially if it's about airplanes. Especially if it's about airplanes. Look like you didn't hear what I said.
[4:24] No, I did. I heard it. I was just looking, making eye contact, see if you's about airplanes. Yes, I agree. Oh, okay. Looked like you didn't hear what I said. No, I did. I heard it. I was just looking, making eye contact, see if you were still talking. So we are also on the website. There's been a lot, by the way, we've done on the website recently. You have done a lot on the website lately. We and you in spirit, me physically. There's also a new listener survey. You okay? Yep.
[4:48] Also a new listener survey out. Version 3. Version 3. We're on right now. Yep. So start off the new year by going over there. With a new survey. And filling it out and letting us know the question. Answer the questions that are on the damn website. Come on. Take the quiz. That's my challenge to everybody. Go do it now. It's super easy. But when you guys fill those out, it gives us direction. I mean, to put it simply.
[5:11] It helps us to know what you guys want to hear, who our listeners are, what their interests are, and if they align with ours or if we need to try something else. Yeah. So we can tailor our content to better suit your entertainment pleasure. Such a wordsmith he is. Exactly. I was going to use the exact same phrase. See? So good. I was going to say, top of my game today. Maybe you should get sick more often. Maybe. Is that the medicine you're on? I was going to say, what are you taking?
[5:41] I'm not on anything. It's crazy. Wow. Weird. Maybe I should get off the stuff I normally take. Crack kills. Oh. That was back my old job, but… What, taking it or… Dealing with it. Dealing with it. Oh, with it, not dealing. Dealing with it. I wondered what job he had. With it. Also, I'm not trying to harp on the website at all, but the MB339 build log is semi-finished on there. Excellent. It's still got some stuff to add, and we still have some stuff to do on it.
[6:17] But for the most part, a lot of the pictures and what we've done so far is live. Go check that out too. Yep. We're going to run that soon, right? Yeah. Need to make noise. Move some leaves around. Yeah, maybe not this weekend. I was going to say this. It's going to be really cold. Weekend's going to be bad. Beginning part of next week is going to be bad. So maybe we're not getting the snow that we were supposed to. For the next two weeks, the temps are supposed to be in the tank. Yeah.
[6:42] Really? I thought it was just like to the end of this week. I think this weekend. This weekend in the tank. Yeah. Really? I thought it was just like to the end of this week. I think this weekend. This weekend's the worst of it. Saturday or Sunday, it's like below, like low teens. Single digits. Yeah. No, I think Monday, the high is zero. Seven. Oh, wow. Okay, so it depends who you listen to. They're all different. They are all different. But what I saw was high.
[6:59] And they're all guessing anyway. I know. What I saw was high of zero on Monday with a low of negative five. To me, that's cold. That's cold. That's cold. It's definitely too cold to be outside tinkering with airplanes, even if they're electric. Which reminds me, I flew today too, by the way. Nice. I know. I saw… How many flights? Two today. Two today? Mm-hmm. Good deal. And two batteries charged.
[7:22] So I saw that, like when I was at work, I was looking at the radar and the weather to see what was coming up for the weekend. And I saw today, and it said five-mile-an-hour wind. I was like, are you kidding me? Like, is that serious? Heck, yeah. So I went to the window and looked outside, and I was like, those trees aren't moving. I'm ready to leave. Yeah. But I had to wait until I got home. And first thing I did, came downstairs, grabbed an airplane.
[7:52] What did you fly? Thex timber nice those umxs i tell you they're so they're super convenient one piece you can carry it while you're carrying your transmitter and batteries yeah and go have fun yeah yeah so today speaking of build logs, we talked about the beast that I acquired on the last episode. We did not, I don't think. Yeah, you did. Oh. We did then talk about your basket case. Yeah.
[8:16] So, I'm going to put some pictures together and put something together, and we'll put that on the website, too. Just what to do when your airplane has a basket case. Just kind of like some basic repair topics and things like that. Yes. I recently picked up a basket case also. You did? So we can talk about that in a little bit. Okay. But, yes, so we both have basket cases that hopefully will not look like that for much longer. We all have basket cases. I've got that $60 decathlon. He does.
[8:47] He bought it at Toledo last year. Yeah. The basket case build-off. Yeah, the green thing that we couldn't quite figure out what the heck it is. It's a decathlon or a satabria or it's a decathabria. Well, Tommy and I have big basket cases. Of the three of them, I would say that mine is more of a basket case than anyone's. I would wholeheartedly agree. Dave's is in rough shape, but it didn't look like it needed any major structural repair. What I can tell is mostly cosmetic at this point.
[9:21] Okay, we'll get back to that. That was more than I planned to talk. Sorry.
[9:34] Tommy's list oh do we have to talk about that like that's so you said you told me not me you told us everybody i told the podcast that's what i meant the collective we yeah all five of them stop it that you would have your updated spreadsheet done. I did. For this episode. I did say that. So. And I actually went to find said spreadsheet, which I keep on Google Docs, as per your suggestion, way back when. And it was nice. It was color coded.
[10:04] way back when. And it was nice. It was color coded. Like I had each airplane, the description box, like colored the color of the airplane. So it was quick and easy reference. And yeah, I had every intention. Actually, January, I think after we were done flying January 1st, that night, I think it was, maybe it wasn't that night, but it was shortly after I had every intention to go redo, well, not redo, but just update the spreadsheet for 2024. Google Docs, and I still don't know why,
[10:33] pretty much purged my account of every document minus the last, which is weird. I don't know if they were because you shared them with me, but I could see your spreadsheet and I could see some of the podcast recordings. But my spreadsheet was gone. All of my voice recordings that we've done down here were gone. Like everything is gone. Like most of my photos are gone. Like gone. So that makes no sense to me. I mean, like I understand.
[11:04] I wonder if you could reach out to Google and just say, hey, why? Yeah, I don't know. Because, like, I'm nowhere near my storage limit. Yeah. Because I pay the $2 a month or whatever it is for their. You do? So you shouldn't ever have to worry about that. Because we pay for extra storage, too, and I've never lost anything. That's so weird. All gone. Did you happen to accidentally delete something? Or did somebody else in your account accidentally delete something while you were gone? No.
[11:35] I mean, they would have had to have logged in as me. Yeah. And as far as I know, I don't even think Lori knows my Google login. So, yeah, it's bizarre. I can't figure it out either. It's disheartening. And I'm computer illiterate. Like, I'll be the first to admit that, like, technology and I don't hang. But I can assure you I did not accidentally delete 10 gigs worth of files. Did you happen by any chance to look in like your trash folder
[12:06] trash bin see if there's anything i didn't because at least on my computer the garbage can icon if there's new stuff in it there will be a number next to it and there was no number so i didn't check it but i can check it i'm talking about online though oh i do it most of this with my phone yeah but you should be doing it online though i mean like i do it on my phone i do it on my phone when i'm on the wi-fi at home so i'm technically online when i do it but i'm not
[12:36] using my laptop is what i'm saying i okay i got you weird i mean yeah i yeah, I don't know what happened. So, yes, I owe the podcast a updated spreadsheet for 2024. And as soon as I'm over my anger for losing my original one, I will build a new one and get it updated. Well, are you keeping track so far of what you're flying and all that stuff? Well, luckily, I've only flown once so far this year, and that's pretty easy to keep track of.
[13:03] So I've got four flights on the stick and three flights on the contender. And I got two flights on the V900. So there you go. Oh, and I got one flight on the MiG-21. There you go. There's my spreadsheet so far for the year. See, I wouldn't be able to remember that. I got three flights. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, me too. You shared it with me, and I tried to get to it, and it's not there either. So, me too. You shared it with me and I tried to get to it and it's not there either.
[13:27] So something is gone. Yeah, it's gone. The stuff that is mine that I've shared with you is stored on my drive and you're accessing it on my drive. So that's why you can still see it. Okay. But it's weird. Yeah. Tell me about it. I mean, that sucks. Yeah. Tell me about it. I mean, that sucks. Yeah. I even went through my emails to see if you sent it to me, not actually just shared it with me, but sent it to me. Just sent it to an email? No. Didn't see anything.
[13:53] I can share mine with you if you want. You can just delete everything out of it. It's all set up. Yeah, I might do that, just as a starting point. That sucks. I like to make mine color code and all that, though, because I'm kind of a nerdy when it comes to spreadsheets. And I like to have, like, I like to use Excel. Like, a lot of people hate Excel, but I use it a lot at work. So I'll set up exceptions and formulas and stuff like that. So anytime I put a flight
[14:18] in, it'll automatically, tally the flights and all that. And that's how my old spreadsheet was set up. Yeah. That's one of many reasons why I'm so upset that it's gone. That's how mine is now too. I've, so I actually took it a step further this year and I think it's going to help me stay up to date on what I need to fly. So the way I had it set up before is I had all of my ready to fly airplanes on one page. page underneath of it was all the information
[14:45] I really didn't like the way that was set up so for this one I changed everything out and put all the information on its own sheet okay I feel bad for you but anyway so I put all the information on its own sheet so it's not at all connected to the rest of them. I mean, connected, but pulls data from them and all that kind of stuff. And with my goal of 400 flights, I know that I need to average 1.1 flight per day. So now I have on there what my average flights needed are, which is 1.1.
[15:22] And then it automatically figures out what day of the year it is. Every day it changes and then divides that by how many I need. So how many you're behind or ahead. Right. And so then it will tell me what I'm averaging. So right now I'm at, thank you. Right now I'm averaging two flights a day and it's green. If I get between, was, 1.6 and 1.1, it turns yellow. And if it's under 1.1, it turns red. Nice. So I will see it and be like, red is bad. So, yeah. No, I'm kind of happy about that.
[15:58] I mean, that took a lot of time to figure out sitting at work when I was bored. No, I like that as well. Yeah, I may have to incorporate something similar. So I've got to do that and then automatically tally all my flights. So do that and then share it with me. I'll share it with you tonight. Remind me. No, I mean do that first and then share it with me. Do what? Set up that formula first. It's all done. Oh, it is? Okay. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's all on there right now.
[16:21] So that's what I'm working with. Yeah. And then it will automatically tell me how many flights I have. The only thing I don't know how to do. This is Google Sheets though, right? Yeah. I wonder if it is, is it compatible with Excel? I think I can, I think Google Sheets will export it as an Excel file. Okay. Yeah. Do it that way. Maybe. We'll see. I'll try. But one thing I don't know if I can do or not, but I'd like to know like dave keeps track
[16:45] how many flights per month don't you no oh mine is super simple i have the date i forgot what i flew how many times and then i got a section for notes ran over a gopher or whatever yeah so each time you fly, you have a separate date entry? So his spreadsheet is a calendar essentially, and then on each date he puts in the information. Oh, so that's why you do all the math. Well, I can go through and I can do autosum on very simplistic things
[17:23] I can do. But I just did it that way, so it's super simple. When I get home from flying, I go click, click, click, click, click, done. I'm not having to input a lot of data, which I may or may not need and might forget. So by doing it super simplistically, I know it's going to be done. I just remembered. On my spreadsheet, you talked about a section for notes. I just remembered on my spreadsheet, you talked about a section for
[17:45] notes. I had notes on my spreadsheet also. And then like after the end of a flight, if I thought, hey, this airplane flew well today, but it needed a little, I don't know, rudder aileron mix, to decouple or something like that. I would write that in the notes and then I would come back later and I'd look at my notes and be like, oh, okay, I'll go adjust this real quick. I should probably put a note in there on the F-105 not to fly it in cold weather
[18:09] because the servos get very sluggish and the hinges are stiff. But all my notes are gone, so hopefully I made the changes I planned on making. Otherwise, I'm starting from scratch on a lot of that, which now I'm mad again. starting from scratch on a lot of that, which now that I'm mad again. Maybe I will learn from your woes and print every year, print last year's. That's actually a good idea. That way I have a copy of it.
[18:35] So like I'm keeping, once again, I'm a nerd, so every year I change it, as in I erase all the data of flights and all that kind of stuff, change the dates in it but i make a copy of it beforehand my plan was just to add another tab so like 2023 is done okay start a new tab 2024 it it brings it would bring forward all the basic information but it would clear out all of the data right so like the airplane names power source all that information for each airplane
[19:06] carries forward onto the new tab but all the dates and flight numbers and notes and all that it's all cleared out for 2024 so i still have 2023's information so i can go back to it if i need to just clicking a tab in excel okay i can see that i didn't even do that. I just started a new file. That's how I did it. Like, not new, but I copied it over. Yeah.
[19:34] And then, so now I have 22s completely filled out I can go back to, 23s completely filled out. And what I like about that is I can tell what airplanes I got rid of and what airplanes were new that year, too. Yeah. But anyway. Yep. Well, that was a lot of dorky talking about stuff I wasn't planning on. Bottom line is I owe the collective podcast a spreadsheet, and I'll get to it. I'm sorry to hear that. I'll get to it. By 2025. It does suck. So, should we talk about what we've been up to?
[20:04] Yeah, let's do. Not much, but fun. We flew January 1st. That was fun. Like we always do. Mm-hmm. It was cold. It was cold-ish. We tried out your new transmitter glove that you found at Toledo for five bucks or whatever it was last year. It was something stupid like that. It actually, for as much fun as I made of you, I wish I had one. Okay. I had one. Okay. I like it. But I can see where you're concerned with it is valid if you don't have landing gear.
[20:36] You cannot throw an airplane, unless you have safe on it or something like that, and it climbs away. But you cannot throw an airplane and get your hand into it quick enough to have control yeah but i mean if you got somebody there that's comfortable with hand launching to do it for you it's i tell you it was so i flew your slow ultra stick right yeah with the glove and what is that 10 minutes yeah give or take 10 or 11 minutes maybe
[21:06] no problems like start to finish hands weren't numb i flew my what was it oh i flew the electro streak also see write that down you're gonna forget this like honestly anyway i flew the electro streak and for like four minutes and at the end of four minutes, my hands were like, I couldn't take the wing off because I couldn't feel my fingers. I had to warm them up to unplug the battery. So it made a huge difference. It's a dorky-looking thing. It is. But it serves its purpose well.
[21:37] If it enables you to fly in the wintertime, then I'm all for it. -huh. And like I said, we can— And I apologize for making fun of you for buying it. Oh, I'll still make fun of it because it looks silly. Like, I for it. -huh. And like I said, we can… And I apologize for making fun of you for buying it. Oh, I'll still make fun of it because it looks silly. Like, I get it. But those things are actually kind of pricey. Like, if you look at the one I got, it's well over $100.
[21:55] You can get them cheaper. Yeah, they're way up there. But they're very pricey. Wow. I had no idea. His is kind of like the deluxe model. Well, and what's nice about it, too, is… That you got it so cheap? That's very nice about it. But, like, if you wanted to use it with one of your airplanes, the bottom just velcros open, and you can slide your transmitter in and out. And it has the handy little clip thing for the neck strap. Okay. Which I'm not a big fan of the neck strap.
[22:23] Yeah, I don't find the neck straps either. For that, it's okay. If I flew with the pinch a big fan of the neck strap, but for that, it's okay. If I flew with the pinch method, I would probably use a strap maybe, but that's another topic we could talk about at length. Anyway, so the transmitter glove. Thumbs up. I've thought about… Oh, hold on. That's this week's Tool of the Week. It's time for RC Plane Labs Tool of the Week. Transmitter glove. So anyway, when you said
[22:56] something like that, that took me to Tool of the Week. But one thing I would like to try sometime that I've never flown with is one of those over-the-shoulder… What are they called? Transmitter trays? Yeah I've never flown with is one of those over-the-shoulder, what are they called, transmitter trays? Yeah, I'm not comfortable in one of those. See, I don't know if I would be either, but I'd like to try one. So I sold one at Toledo. I don't know if you remember seeing that.
[23:15] Yeah, it was one that we got from the dumpster at Jim Allen's place. But it was like a hybrid. It was a tray, but it was attached via a strap. So you're still hanging on your neck. I didn't try flying with it, but I put my transmitter on it and strapped it in and did all that and just kind of walked around the basement looking like a dork with it. It wasn't comfortable. It just felt very unnatural and it pulled down on my neck.
[23:42] The tray and then your arms, because you rest your arms and it pulled down on my neck. Yeah. Then you got the extra, not only are you holding the transmitter, you're the extra weight of the tray itself. Well, the tray and then your arms because you rest your arms on it so you can have that fine control. Yeah. And it was just a lot of weight pulling down on my neck. And then if you start looking up while you're flying, that's even worse. I agree. I think the tray things
[24:00] that like just kind of sit on your shoulders, those might be worth whatever they're i don't know i would like to try one just to see they work for certain people in certain situations yeah that's the same i would like it's not one yeah but i don't want to buy one because i don't know if i would like it so right i don't want to spend the money on one until i try it yeah unless i know i would actually use it because the problem for me with the lanyards is that with spectrum,
[24:26] where it connects on the transmitter, when you look down, it's in the way of what you're trying to look at on the screen. Well, you shouldn't be looking at the screen. You should be looking at the airplane. Well, but there are times where you want to look and see stuff on the screen. Really, Reggie? You like to look away from your airplane when you're flying? I will hold it up like this and look past. I do it too. it too i'm just teasing i know but don't compare me to reggie
[24:49] anyway some of the meanest things i've been called today oh come on you're right it's not reggie's not that bad but no so i'd like to try one of those sometime and see what it's like yeah i still want to learn how to fly with via the pinch method but yeah it's just so doesn't work for me like i've been flying with my thumbs for a long time and it's just hard to unlearn that i found that since i sit now and fly having the
[25:20] transmitter sort of in my lap and my arms kind of resting on my leg things are a lot more steady that way yeah i can see that so maybe i'll try that try try that out see oh i'll take one of our new try it one of your new chairs yeah and then maybe try it with a glider or something yeah something that's not too difficult to fly. I do want to fly the glider a lot this summer. I mean, yeah. Mine, anyway. My Amana. There are so many planes I want to fly a lot this summer.
[25:55] You want to fly all of them. Exactly. So it's not even worth saying that about anything at this point because I don't know what's going to happen. We will see. Yeah. Whatever planes get. For me, like, I like simple. I like easy, quick, easy to go together, just battery operated. But they don't seem to have the same satisfaction. what I'm trying to say? Like that you get from, like, starting an engine. Going through a process. no area they're fun
[26:27] spending 45 minutes putting together a stop with cup oh geez that's not fun it kind of is though if you're into tinkering not for me like that's if i could if i could fit every airplane that i take to the field in the car together i would be happy to where you just get it out of the car set it down you're ready to go i can't part of the fun for me is the the assembly leading up to flying and then flying and then cleaning it up as you take it apart and putting it i don't know you
[26:57] also find gripes with the airplane yeah something's starting to come loose or whatever whenever you take them apart if you don't take them apart you don't catch that little stuff that's true so you have to start annualing your airplanes yeah i was gonna say it's almost like a mini annual every time you take it to the field when you have to take it apart see i guess that's a good way to look at it you're right good call dave dave with the input yeah starting off the year right
[27:23] like i this is bad i don't even remember what i took to the field to fly i think i just flew with the input. Yay. Starting off the year right. Like, this is bad. I don't even remember what I took to the field to fly. I think I just flew the slow ultra stick. Slow ultra stick. And the Consendo? UMX Consendo? Was that it? Yeah, because you didn't even bring the Ultrix. I thought you would take the Ultrix, and you didn't. It was a little bit windy. Yeah. So…
[27:41] Really surprised he even showed up. I don't know how to… I really don't know how to take that what is that supposed to be you wimp out a lot what now hold on i oh my god here we go a balloon just flew by can't fly too windy what is this sorcery i don't understand what i don't know what i'm talking about you guys i don't know what you're talking about. You guys, I don't know what you did last summer because I wasn't here. So clearly he's talking about something I don't know about.
[28:11] Dave, fill me in. What do you mean? You tend to wimp out when it's less than ideal flying weather. We don't like to get cold. Oh, I don't like to get cold. I will admit that. The older I get, the worse it is of course he does have to transmit her glove now he does he's got no excuse now true i'm just i'm trying to go back in my it's a little breezy not coming yeah if it's windy windy i'm not
[28:40] see that's why you need heavy nitro planes i I have flown this little UltraStick in 27-mile-an-hour winds before, though. That's not bad for the heck of something. what else is good in the wind that you have? The AeroScout. Those are actually, I've been watching them online. Those are actually pretty decent in the wind also. Yeah, so like every other airplane. Well, they're not in trees. I would like to try to fly that one more this year too
[29:06] for funsies that's piper's plane so i don't want to be like that's true stealing that and flying it i want to get her out more but i don't know she will she does she does if she doesn't she doesn't don't push her because i know that's one sure way to get her to hate it i'm trying not to i know there's some things that eli Field coming up that she is excited about. There you go. But not for the flying aspect. But at least it gets her there and gets her. I don't know. We'll see.
[29:34] Dave, I'm still taken aback by what you said. Like, I just. Because I'm a cautious flyer, he's making fun of me. Sometimes you got to take risks. You just got to take and put it out there man what you need you need a contender that's what you need no i don't need to fly that in almost any weather how many flights did you have last year dave i mean like honestly he's come on now gosh i'll be nice because i always quality over quantity i learned something on most of those
[30:07] flights there you go versus just putting up another number that's right he's got a good point there rather than just going out to the side yard any flight is a good flight though anytime you can fly and not crash is a good flight. Well, yeah, maybe.
[30:36] And sometimes it's fun just to relax and enjoy a little flight without trying to learn something or be stressed. Flying is a journey. Like, for me, I like to try to improve as I fly. Maybe not every single flight, but I like to get better,? So I try to have in the back of my head, I try to have like a goal,? I've been practicing flat spins out here. Oh yeah? With what? Oh, with the timber. Is it flat spin? Not not very well but it does enough to where you still
[31:06] have to try and get out of it right side up or upside down right set up for now i tried upside down earlier today did it scare you it a little bit actually i prefer to flat spin inverted really well they look cooler but it's it's harder to get out of if you're not used to it stuff i own tends to flat spin better inverted. Yeah. I get flatter. Yeah. This one doesn't flatten out very well, but you still get the basics of what it takes. So I have been practicing that.
[31:34] I've been practicing flying upside down a little bit more and all that kind of stuff too. There you go. And those are all skills that will be very valuable later. Yeah. Like especially when you're flying the jet or anything, really. Yeah. See, I'm to the point where, like, I'm comfortable flying. Like, the orientation and all that kind of stuff is not anything I think about anymore. Yeah, right. But I guess I am.
[32:01] I'll agree with Dave on some things, that I am a little overly cautious with some airplanes and stuff because I don't want to mess them up. So I don't know. Maybe this will be the year just to fly everything. We did that 22, right? No, we didn't. You did. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Flew every airplane. That's good. There's a net down here. Is that what you were looking at earlier? Yeah. Where did that come from? I don't know. Anyway.
[32:26] There it was. Right in front of down here. Is that what you were looking at earlier? Yeah. Where did that come from? I don't know. Anyway. There it was. Right in front of your nose. And I missed it. Okay. What else did we do? Oh. We'll tell a story that poor Tommy didn't get to be part of. Again. You guys wouldn't have had fun without me. So we went to Beloit, Wisconsin for a swap meet the i don't know how to say it
[32:48] but it's the rrams is it the rams swap meet rock river aeromodeler society had their first annual swap meet maybe you roll the r maybe rams there you go we're dorks. But anyway, no, so we went up for swap meet, first swap meet of the year. It was a, I mean, really it was a good swap meet. There were, it was smaller than it needed to be. The building was smaller than it needed to be. Like they really could have filled out quite a bit more than what they had. So they sectioned it off?
[33:26] No. It was a whole building. It was a whole building. Yeah. So they could have used a bigger building is what you're saying. That's what I was getting at, but I couldn't quite find the word. They need about a third larger. Oh, really? Okay. Maybe even half, honestly. So packed, you would say? Yeah. Well, we got turned away. It was hard. Turned away? For tables. For tables, yeah. Really?
[33:45] And then, like, I don't know if they saw your license plate or something, but I heard somebody say, oh, they're from Illinois? And then they asked me, oh, you're with them. How far did you drive? I said, well, from Springfield. How far is that? That's five hours. They're like, well, that's like three and a half or four hours. I said, yeah, that sounds about right. Especially if you're riding with Dave, it takes wrong turns. And not take a wrong turn. I took an alternate route. Poor Dave.
[34:14] Volunteers to drive and then you give him a hard time about it. It's not a road trip with Dave if you don't take a wrong turn and think you're going to die once. You've got to remember, I used to say by the mile. Listen, Dave and I go way back. I've went many places with Dave, and I've never had an issue with Dave's driving. Wow. I will admit the St. Louis one was close. That scared me. I think that was the one that got me. Which I guess proves that you guys do a lot of stuff without me.
[34:42] Well, that's because you're gone a lot. Yeah. Anyway. So they asked you how long the drive was which yes was three and a half four hours but when we were going up there i was kind of watching the gps and all of a sudden dave at the split was going to was it blooming no peoria yeah i was taking 155 up to peoria as opposed to bloomington which was a like you're going up to brian just a straight just shot up there and then i watched my gps say i don't remember how many
[35:09] hours but it added like 30 minutes to the trip i'm like what so that we i mean we figured it out and got back on it only added about what 15 20 minutes yeah it wasn't too bad you got me sorry but anyway so yeah we got up there about 9 o'clock. Yeah, we were about an hour after they opened. I was up at 3 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, you guys left early. That's not like me. No. Our new neighbors must love me at this point. Yelling at the dog, banging the trailer.
[35:39] Oh, we had the trailer airborne. Yeah, that was fun. The trailer? The nose of the trailer came up because we stood it in it yeah oh whoops yeah so it comes slamming down at four in the morning it was loading but anyway so yeah we brought a trailer up daniel's trailer dave drove it was very nice yeah so you guys you guys pull into the parking lot carrying a trailer and illinois plates it's
[36:00] three and a half hour drive someone okay thank you for Thank you for the nice wrap up. That's good. So anyway, he asked how far, blah, blah, blah. We already covered that. And then he kind of felt bad for us and said, well, hold on. I'm going to go see if some of our club members can consolidate. Yeah. And so they ended up finding us a table. Oh, good. Which was very nice. Dave brought stuff to sell. Dave can talk about what he sold. Well, so there was my box of miscellaneous crud.
[36:29] It's gone. Oh, you got rid of it. Was it the same box, more or less, that you'd had to Toledo last year? Yeah. Nice. Good deal. Well, you sold some stuff out of it. Right. But it's all gone. It's all gone. Yay. This was a box deal, though. Yeah. Okay. Box of miscell a box deal, though. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Box of miscellaneous other artists' items. Those are gone. Oh, okay. Okay. Tracking. And my Fokker D7 that I like to taxi into your yak or whatever it was, it's gone. No. Yeah, it's gone.
[37:06] You had that, like that as long as I can remember. I had that most of my adult life. I can't believe you sold that. Yeah. It's gone. And my Corsair is gone. I'm a little bit sad to be honest. That would be like me getting rid of my Contender. He was sad after he got rid of it too yeah yeah I heard the ask for sympathy you get it for me no I mean I told me no you kind of have to take that last look over your shoulder as you leave the room knowing that it's gone man what else did
[37:40] and then the problem with that d by the way, is it was a good size where you didn't have to take it apart. It's 40 size. Yeah. So, I mean, like it fit in a car. So, you didn't have to spend an hour putting it together. Yeah. That's just my… No flying wires. Yeah. Well, and it looked really nice, too. It was fabric covered. It was a very nice looking airplane. I know what airplane he's talking about. I know, but other people may not. Oh. It was a very good looking airplane.
[38:04] Yeah, it was very well done, I thought. It's a little hard to take off sometimes, but other people may not. It was a very good-looking airplane. Yeah, it was very well done, I thought. It was a little hard to take off sometimes. It was a little cantankerous on the ground, but a lot of that World War I stuff is. Yeah. But it flew great. It had the ASP-65 in it, which ran great. Well, it's gone. Need to make room. Shed a tear for that one. Yeah. What else?
[38:24] And my FMS C corsair is gone was that the one that likes to take nosedives and ditches no the ditch diver was the oh six sorry f86 yeah that's a corsair 2 or a saber i guess it's saber yeah okay but anyway that's gone that's the one i always had i had to wreck wreck the gear forward on it to just even taxi it. Corsairs. And it was a little underpowered. It flew good, but it was a little underpowered. Didn't mind seeing that one go. It wasn't there 10 minutes and gone. Oh, really?
[38:58] Warbirds, man. And he had repainted that. So it wasn't just a normal looking Corsair. It was in the gray and white quantico colors oh okay i don't know if i ever saw that one retractable gear retract gear although i did remove the inner doors because i raked the gear and they wouldn't fit yeah but raking the gear just a few degrees made a huge difference i'll be darned. So that's gone. That's gone. The only thing I took home with me is my little spray booth. I'll be darned.
[39:29] So it did really, really well up there. Yeah. And didn't bring anything home. Nice. So you're minus three then. I'm minus three now. Because. As of tonight. Yeah. Isn't that cool? Yeah, I'm plus one. Mm-hmm. Cool. So if that, what, like, what else else did you take why did you take the trailer because of pickups yeah so we were taking too much up there because i was trading a couple airplanes for something oh before i get to that though okay what i bought
[40:01] no i bought another sig cavalier kit oh i did know that yeah because i saw the picture of it sitting next to something in the back of the truck yeah okay so i'm excited about that that's the first airplane i ever bought that was nitro that was the first kit i ever bought or built yeah so yeah still have never flown one you haven't no you haven't yes i have you flew it not the one i built but the one i bought i flew
[40:27] quite a bit okay what's that look i mean well because it's just it's just it's funny it's another unfinished project oh it's finished that's the problem like it's ready to go oh i thought last time i literally could put a battery in it now and fly oh i thought you still had something to do with the gear well i guess the gears i don't think yeah because that was when i put that should be when you fly this year i plan on it well turn it turn it red on your spreadsheet so it's like oh red i
[40:56] gotta fly it can you make it flash oh yeah there you go i am next i am yeah see anyway so the reason for the trip this trip has been going as we've been building up to this trip for several months not necessarily going here to this swap meet but so terry dunn mentioned on their podcast the rc roundtable podcast that he had acquired somehow a big glider i want to say big a glider but it is a big a glider
[41:31] it's not that huge it's good size but anyway so long story short i texted him and stuff and we came to a an agreement on a trade for a couple airplanes I had for this glider. You guys came to an accord. No, it's not a Honda. And anyway, so when I was up at AirVenture, I finally got to see it in person because he has given me every option, every chance to back out. He's like, I want you to see it just so what you're getting into. It's a basket case.
[42:07] We both have basket cases. All three have basket cases yes but because I think days is gonna be fairly simple to fix it depends on what direction he goes yeah it depends what I find under all that awful covering are you you're peeling it all off oh yeah okay it's bad you have no options maybe i don't know how bad that one is then it's pretty rough so this glider is an old seagull model oh that's
[42:34] a seagull that's a seagull oh i didn't know that yes okay eagle model ka8bLS, 6.5 meter. I say all that stuff not knowing what I'm saying. It's a glider. That's all I know. It has holes in it. It has messed up sheeting in places, which I knew all this. I mean, like, this doesn't bother me at all. So it needs a full recover. It needs a few other things done to it. I don't think it's going to be all that bad to do. No, it's going to be time consuming. It's going to be a lot of covering.
[43:12] So I started stripping the covering already. I have the covering stripped off of one wing panel of four. Terry, by the way, if you happen to be listening to the podcast, this thing is awesome. Like, Ron is calling it a basket case, but it's like literally less than an evening's worth of repair and then a recover. It's no big deal. Okay. Well, the way I work. Well, I understand. It's more than an evening's worth of repair.
[43:38] I don't want Terry thinking that you think it's this huge amount of work because it's really not that big of a deal. No, no, no, no. There's a couple holes in the sheeting and that's about it. Go over the glue joints and they all look pretty good. I'll be doing that. I will be redoing all the electronics and it has servos in part of it right now. What is it with you and this thing about servos? So, I'm going to be honest. You can tell this has gotten wet. Well, yeah.
[44:07] There's some staining on some of the sheeting. There's some staining. Some of the screws that were on the bottom of the airplane were rusted out, which is fine. But all that tells me, be careful with servos because you don't know what happened to them. And honestly, that's cheap insurance to make me feel better about flying it i get it i get it do you i get your hang up yes but in tommy's world
[44:36] if i plug them in and they cycle back and forth with a little bit of load on them and they don't like stutter or do anything weird i'm putting them on a throttle or something if they work reasonably well they go on a rudder or a throttle. Or a throttle. Flaps, maybe. Yeah, maybe I won't. I'm not going to put them on an elevator or an aileron, but I'll put those suckers to use, man. Okay, well, I mean, you looked at what they were. I don't remember what they are. Yeah, they're high techs.
[44:57] They're good servos. So I'll find something to put them on. Anyway. Most likely they'll just end up. Thanks, Terry. It's an awesome airplane. I can't wait to get this thing finished and get it in the air it's gonna be awesome okay i guess maybe i'm being too negative like i i'm not trying to be it's there's a good amount of work i have to do on it and i'm excited to do the work but okay okay he's gonna keep a
[45:18] small covering factory in business for the next year this thing is this is definitely going to be what's the value cover 20 feet that's the wingspan a little over 21 feet 21 feet yeah my house is 28 foot wide it barely fit down here like i could not i tried to take a picture of it and i could not get it completely yeah in frame yeah it's large it's wide it's going to be a lot of covering it's gonna be value cover are
[45:47] you going with the stock colors I think so yeah I like the red and white I mean it just seems simple looks very simple to recover yeah and it's pretty cool looking yeah there's no complicated graphics and since the canopy is already painted red hopefully read in though we'll finish it. Oh, really? Well, I mean. Doesn't look that bad to me. It's got a couple cracks in it. So it depends how much I want to get into it. Gotcha. I don't know how, if I would like try and redo a full canopy.
[46:17] Like, I don't know. The good news is that is small enough, even though it's a big airplane, the actual plexiglass canopy part i'm pretty sure is small enough to where if i can make a plug i can run a new one on brian's oh yeah machine stacking port machine cool yeah probably it looks small enough yeah but anyway i'm very excited about this yeah my goal if everything goes according to plan is to fly it at the aeroto event at eli this year. Just because when I went last year and even the
[46:47] year before. So are you saying you're going to fly it at the Eli Tow event? No, I think exactly what I said was my goal, we'll see if it happens, is to fly it. So that's my goal. I love the non-committal, way you go about. I know how things happen. Like, I know something can change that, and then I will never hear the end of it. If I say, yes, I'm going to fly that at the Aeroto event. That's true. You did commit to buying a jet, and you indeed bought a jet.
[47:16] And you actually did commit. You didn't waffle like you're doing now. Well, any whoozle. There's just work that has to go into it. Yes. If I have the time, I will do it. But like I said, I don't know what time I have to do it. Understood. I want more time. Covering, when I'm peeling this off. When is the glider tow event? I'd have to look at last year's. I wanted say it was July July it's hot yeah yeah it's hot well that makes sense cuz lift cuz I think it was July and I think the jet
[47:55] that would be perfect August I remember I'd work great for my schedule I hope it does because I'm gonna need somebody to pull me up well unless I put a motor in it I go back and forth now yeah well i mean you so we talked about it a little bit earlier and you said your plan was to fly it motorless first and then see how you like it and then maybe put in a motor later yes my suggestion is to put a motor in it first so you're not dependent on a tow vehicle. Understand.
[48:28] Just for convenience sake, and then you could take it out to our club field on a Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday morning or whatever when no one's out there and fly it on that huge, huge, huge runway without having to have a tow plane. I would also like to see the 12- foot telemaster and that both in the expedition oh it'll fit at the same time yeah okay i mean because like i don't remember the telemaster i don't think that fits without going in between
[48:59] the seats right the tail set on the center console but this one does because it breaks down so much the the tail comes off the rudder comes off and the front nose cone comes out what is that probably 18 inches of nose cone that comes off yeah looks like about 18 inches it's still going to be a full vehicle oh yeah and that's okay i probably won't be able to fit anything else in there but i mean I probably won't be able to fit anything else in there. But, I mean, wing panels are small.
[49:26] I mean, it's just not. So at the glider tow event at Eli, do they provide the tow planes? They have some sitting there. Okay. But I would still just like to use my own. Right. So that's another airplane that needs finished and flown. I know. And trimmed. Which is why I said my hope, my goal that might not happen is to do that but I do want to fly and like so I've thought a little bit about what you said about doing it
[49:54] motorized first I like that idea except I was trying to kind of go cheaper on it and funds are finite so I don't want to have to buy honestly another battery because it would be for that one i think a 12s setup oh ouch yeah it's a big motor yeah they recommend for it and i only have one 6s 5000 right now so i have to buy another one of those plus the motor speed controller and i don't know i i need to do more research i don't know what receiver i want to use for this either
[50:25] any input i mean would you go power safe i i don't think it would require that no i mean you're only going to be running servos you're not running six servos yeah but i mean you're not going to put like 250 ounce inch servos in it you're going to put standard digital servos in it right yeah like nothing i think 8010 with telemetry or whatever the vario one is i think would be fine i definitely want one that has satellites though
[50:58] it's all balsa so there's no carbon to fight. Right. Is there no… I guess, yeah, there's no satellites with the ones with the Vario. No. At least not the one I have. I don't think there's a place to hook one up either. I don't think. I'd have to look. I don't remember, yeah. But there actually… I don't know if I would trust it or not, but there is, I found, tucked up in here, a satellite receiver. There you go.
[51:23] So you don't trust it, though, probably, because it might have been in an airplane that got damp. Okay. This is the Make Fun of Ron episode. I like it. No, it's not. No, but maybe I am overly cautious with equipment. No, I think a power safe might be overkill. Yeah, there's no reason for that. Well, that's what I have in the telemaster. With six, well, but with six… 20 channel nonetheless. But with six standard, displacement, standard torque, digital servos,
[51:56] I think you'll be fine with a basic eight or… Even with range. Oh, yeah. Because this is going to be flown farther away well yeah higher what's Reggie flying well not necessarily true because like at the the glider events you're clear that's 1,200 feet yeah so it'll be going 1199.9 point I can like I would be interested to see what 1,200 feet looks like with the glider like this. Yeah.
[52:26] I mean, like, I think it would be tiny. It looks a lot different than it does with a jet or whatever, yeah. Or even with the smaller gliders we have. Like, if you get up too high, you're just going to lose it. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. We'll have to try it. Yeah. I think a regular receiver would be fine. Definitely get one with a vario, though. Yeah. The variometer, yeah. Yeah. I've got some research to do on that. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah, I think a PowerSafe is overkill.
[52:50] But I like those, though. I understand. Because that's redundant. That's two batteries. I understand. That's so… I just… I like that so much better. I have a question. So, like, not to drive the train off the track, but redundancy. So people going with, like, dual batteries, do they go with dual batteries because they're afraid one of the batteries is going to fail? Or are they going with dual batteries just for voltage? Like, I don't… Well, you're not going to gain voltage.
[53:19] In my many years of RC flying experience, I have never, not once, had a receiver battery in any airplane deliver less than its advertised voltage. Unless I did something wrong, like not charging it or whatever. But a properly charged battery, I have never had one fail. So why do I need to carry around the extra weight of a second battery? So let me ask you this. What in your history of flying have you flown? What size
[53:52] airplanes? How many servos? What torque servos? How much, how many amperage have each servo pulled? Well, I guess the answer to that would be probably the most recent would be that S-Bach, that 50cc sized S-Bach that I fly. Which has two batteries. No, I only have one battery in that. Really? Mm-hmm. I thought you redone it on that too. Well, there's two batteries in the airplane, but one for the ignition and one for the radio. I thought you redone it on the radio, I guess. Negative. Hmm.
[54:22] And they are, and they are as far apart as I can get. Like, I don't even want my radio to know. And I've mentioned this before, that I have an ignition system in the airplane. So I have it completely isolated. No, I get it. And I'm thinking about doing away with switches now, too. Switches scare me more than anything. I get that, too, for sure. Like on the big biplane I just finished, the canopy is easily removable.
[54:48] So at the beginning of the flight, I pop the canopy off, plug the battery in, like with the plugs, put a safety thing on it, so the plugs don't come apart, put the canopy on and go fly. So you're still using, like, what are the connectors called? JSTs. I'm using two of them. Yes. My battery came using two of them. Yes. My battery came with two output leads. I bought it from ProModeler. It came with two output leads. Actually, there's four output leads, but two JST connectors,
[55:17] and I plugged both of those into the receiver. So you're running one battery, but you're doubling the path. So you're running one battery, but you're doubling the path. Doubling the path and having the voltage across each of those JSTs. Not voltage, but current. The current. Because those JSTs technically are limited to about 2.5 amps. Right.
[55:46] And even with the servos that I bought and put in that airplane, 8 servos, by the way i'm still under five amps at max load right which is fine for two of them according to the specs yeah so that's yeah so see i think with me this goes back to when i first started flying the big plane the big yak i had the the the scary moment of having a brownout due to it not being set up right. Sorry. And you actually had a brownout.
[56:13] Like so many people, they experience something in the air, oh, I got a brownout. No, you actually had because it was logged on the… Yes, this actually was that. So what happened with mine is I was flying it, I overloaded the system, and it pulled the amperage down, going into the receiver to, or not, it pulled the voltage down, going to the receiver, which put it into the brownout mode. And so I lost all connection with it, and the plane was going straight to the ground.
[56:45] straight to the ground. And so when that happens, and you realize it's something stupid you did, not necessarily stupid, but something that you could have prevented, that is when I don't ever want to take that chance again. So how did you overload the system? Moving too many servos at one time. What was the setup? Was there two batteries in it at that time? Yes, there was two batteries in it at the time, but there was two batteries powering just the receiver. I think it was an 8010? No.
[57:06] AR-8000. This is going back several years. Okay. So it wasn't the battery. It was the receiver. It was the receiver that somehow, and maybe it was the batteries, providing or not providing enough. It's been 10 years ago. I'm trying to think what batteries I was using on it. Life, probably? No. Were they like those probably no no because i never no they might have just been necromantohydride no not in that airplane i think so really i think so
[57:45] 10 years ago probably okay so in that case yeah you you it you may have lost you may not have had enough oomph from the battery. Right. But with today's batteries, like the battery I bought for this biplane, it's only 2,500 milliamp. And I went out and I ran it and moved the servos and stuff for 10 minutes. And when I charged that battery back, I put 220-something milliamps back in it on a 2,500 milliamp battery. I get it. And it's not the pull.
[58:09] I mean, it's not necessarily how many milliamp hours you take out of it and all that kind of stuff that concerns me. But I guess what I'm getting at is I'm also of the opinion, and this is just my opinion, I think we're putting too much battery in our airplanes. I don't think we need. I'm not talking about electric powered airplanes right yeah but i'm talking about like for radio power i don't think
[58:31] you need 4 000 milliamps even if you're running eight digital high voltage high amperage high whatever servos because those are the servos that i bought for this biplane and they servos because those are the servos that i bought for this biplane and they are very efficient they don't they don't pull as much as we think they pull i think that's just my opinion so in this biplane it's one 2500 milliamp battery with well four leads but two of them plugged right into my
[58:58] ar 8010 i think it is t maybe i don't know yeah because i needed another channel so i could run choke but i decided not to do that so it's an hl yeah 80 10 t and zero issues like i like when i was out running it no i understand it's not flying i was gonna say i had zero issues until i had issues because i i had flown that before that wasn't my first flight on it was probably five or six flights in i mean
[59:21] i'm gonna keep a close eye on it for the first few flights, but after that, if it's good, that's how I'm going to roll from now on. But I think it was when I actually got in and started flying it a little bit harder and had ailerons, I think I had all three going. And you're sure they weren't fighting each other or there wasn't a servo binding? Because I know you've had issues with servos with that too. No, because I mean, the way I had that set up,
[59:44] I had that set up… Was it in or something like that, I remember? I had one that quit, and that was one on the elevator, I think. Yeah, and they fixed it and all that kind of stuff. So that one was actually running two servos per aileron, and it had the matchboxes on them. This is how far back that goes yeah to where you i mean i did all the checking to see how much it was pulling yeah did end point adjustments to
[1:00:10] the center point adjustment and all that stuff and made it work and it wonder if they weren't making any noise maybe it was the battery i don't know but like i said it reconnected yeah luckily i was good enough so your dual battery then just to land the current, not so much for the redundancy of the battery itself. Correct. Okay. To me, because, I mean, batteries, some people do it for that, that I've heard of, in case one battery dies.
[1:00:34] But that, I mean, that I think is so, that's almost zero. Switches fail before a battery dies. And that's the thing I like about the PowerSafe receivers, too, is it's not a physical switch. It's a soft switch that defaults to on So if you have a problem with it, it's gonna stay on yeah And that's I mean, like I said, I know they're pricey but they're easy to set up Yeah, that's what I like about them. Well, they'll run with one battery, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have to have
[1:01:04] but with one battery right yeah yeah yeah you don't have to have both of them again but when you get in the battery or in the planes this i like the power safe receivers because of their current capacity like if you're yeah if you're running a lot of servos and they're high torque and they draw a lot of current then yeah you need that power safe because this this like the the bus on some of the other receivers can't handle that kind of power. Right.
[1:01:26] Which is why before PowerSafe receivers were out, we had the SmartFly. I think I had the EQ6 is what I used in the Yak. And that separated all the power and took it away from the receiver. So all the power for the servos and for everything was ran through that board, and all the receiver was just a dumb bus that didn't have to worry about any transferring of power. It was all for signal. Like I said, that was 10 years ago, and that's what scared me,
[1:01:56] and that's what got me probably more worried about it than you are. Well, you are a cautious fellow, as Dave pointed out earlier. I think we did figure that out today. So, yeah. Anyway. So, yeah, big glider. Enough on that. Yeah. Yeah, big glider. Power safe receiver. We'll see. Four batteries. I don't have a power safe receiver extra, so I'd have to buy one for it. I'm teasing. I know.
[1:02:26] But maybe. We'll see. I've got a few months to figure it out but no it was nice we went up and had lunch with terry finally got to meet him yeah you guys took reggie right reggie yeah reggie came too and see you guys have all the fun i get it's the weekends like the weekends that we do it is it's and it's not on us i mean like i can't choose what weekends other people do stuff i know i know but you always i just need to retire that's
[1:02:50] all i agree terry thinks you're trying to terry i swear i am not avoiding dodging you i swear like i'm i'm excited to meet the meet terry and the rest of the well i've met some of the crew but you met the rest of them yeah i swear i'm not dodging you it's just scheduling man and you're not nearly as old as reggie says you are yeah what's up with that like i know reggie's rude like he's older than me i think he was older than everybody at the table He's older than me.
[1:03:23] I think he was older than everybody at the table. Actually, he was older than everybody at the table. Anyway. Yeah, Reggie. Thanks, buddy. How's that jet coming, Reggie? He still hasn't ordered it. Yeah. Go figure. I don't know if he's going to make it or not. I mean, if he keeps going to swap meets and buying other airplanes, I'm not sure. I don't see how he's going to make that happen. What did he just buy? He bought, was it the… Well, you guys talked about it. He bought a Zaggy.
[1:03:51] Right. Well, but that was nothing. I mean, that was literally, that was 30 bucks. Like, that was a good deal. So he does have a flying wing now. Oh, good. For combat. Hopefully. Yes. What did he… No. No. Oh, he got the Twin Beach eFlight. Oh, yeah, that's right. The D18, is it? Yeah. Is that what it is? I want to say the EC1500, but that's not the one he got. It's a beautiful airplane. It is. Those are pretty airplanes. Yeah, we saw those fly at Joe Nall last year.
[1:04:23] Very good flying airplane. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah, Horizon put on the demo that day. They do fly well. They look like they fly pretty good. They're cool-looking airplanes, too. Stop it. Every airplane looks like it flies pretty good. Well, they do. I mean, not all of them, but most. Yeah. But, oh. That one flew good. Yep. That old… Wrecked it. See, it's okay. I never liked that plane anyway. Good riddance. So there's a carcass in the corner or something. I know.
[1:04:58] I haven't gotten rid of that yet. But I am… I did cheat, unfortunately, a little bit. So I got the spreadsheet all set up and all that stuff for this year, and I hadn't taken that off yet. I figured I'm okay since it's still sitting in the corner. I haven't thrown it away. That should have come off of your spreadsheet when you gave it to me last year. It didn't. Well, it should have. Well, it's here in the corner but it's mine well then take it home
[1:05:28] well i left it here because i figured you could burn it or something right so it's mine to get rid of so you just bequeathed it back to me before the end of the year okay so you're plus three then no i'm negative one i'm down one because i got rid of this one in the corner. I think the glider should count as two. Oh, that's big. It's so big. No. Putting my foot down. Although I have… 50 UMXs. So way off topic. Have you ever thought about adding all your wingspans together to see
[1:06:01] how wide you have airplanes? I never thought of that, but that's interesting. That just hit me. That would be kind of interesting. You would have us all beat. No. Oh. No, not necessarily. 21 feet just with one airplane? Well, but no. And then you have other gliders. Because most of the ones are UMXs that I like most a lot. Not most, but a lot. It has occurred to me when I've got four quarter-scale aircraft in the expedition that I have literally a full-scale airplane in this.
[1:06:34] Oh, yeah, if you think about it. Four quarters is a whole. Thank you, math expert, Tommy. I'm here for the obvious. I think mathematically it doesn't work out that way but no it doesn't because i don't know what it wingspan wise it would be but like wing cord and all that stuff wouldn't quite work out to be the same well i think it would
[1:06:59] depend on the airplane yeah maybe i don't much math. But anyway, that has occurred to me in the past. Yeah. Hmm. Four quarter scale airplanes in the back means I've got one full size one. Anything else you want to talk about? I think I'm through everything that I had that I wanted to talk about, you guys. Good? I'm good. Good? All good. So let's do a quick wrap up. Okay. Don't forget calendar events are on the website. Yes.
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