Ep 152: Oh Micro Draco, I couldn’t resist

[00:00:04] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I’m Ron, I’m Tom and I’m dave. Hi, guys, hi, how’s it going? It’s going okay. You, it’s good to see you guys again. Yes, yeah, I haven’t seen you for quite a while weeks at least. Actually. Yeah, I have. No, it’s been two weeks. It’s been two weeks. Yeah, we’ve been busy. Yeah, you’ve been busy. Not for sure, not with airplane stuff. Well, no, but I have

[00:00:35] Well, good, we’ll have something dave has, we’ll have something to talk about before we get into it. Two things I want to do first off. I guess maybe three things. First off, I want to thank our patrons. Yes, remind anybody that wants to be a patron, head over to rcplanelab.com. Slash, no, don’t, I don’t remember what it is. Just go to rcplanelab.com and click on the patreon link. Yeah, we greatly appreciate. Yeah, all very much appreciate it. And once again, I will say anything.

[00:01:03] You guys give us via patreon we do not spend on airplanes I promise what I just bought.

[00:01:09] Hasn’t been delivered yet that reminds me of what a portable recorder oh nice so we’ll have so when.

[00:01:17] We see you guys. The other reporter, yeah, yeah, when we see you guys at the swap meets, we may record a conversation and you could be on the podcast. Of course, we will ask your permission first, but

[00:01:29] And by we he means not myself but yeah dave and I have no problems talking to you guys at the.

[00:01:37] Swap meets, Ron is the reserved one. Reserved, that’s a good word, I like that. That’s a. That’s weird. I’m a client one on this thing and yeah you, yeah, yeah, yeah. But dave is definitely not shy when it comes to meeting folk at the swap meets and other places. Neither am I so good. Yeah, that’s awesome portable recorder. Thank you for patrons for helping us acquire that. Yeah, it’s a one zoom just came out.

[00:02:03] With so hopefully it’s a good one it’ll be nice that’s yes we have here is a zoom can I board also.

[00:02:10] Can I thank alvin while I’m? That was my next thing. Oh, I’m sorry. No, see, there I go stealing your thunder again. I am so sorry. Please do no, I’m sorry, you go ahead, okay. So after our last episode, when I

[00:02:24] Was. I think it was the last, yeah, last one, when I was woefully complaining, yes, about the pickup in the MB-339, the fuel filter pickup. Well, it was Ron. Yeah, it took- I took me a minute to process what you said. One of our listeners in england- jolly old england- got in touch with me on facebook and recommended a certain type of pickup that I actually had a hard time finding, and so I texted.

[00:02:54] Him back and said: hey, I can’t really find exactly what you’re looking for. Maybe is there a different name. Am I calling it something wrong? He’s like what, don’t worry about it. He said I will send you a couple of them just to say thanks for the show and all you guys do. So I, alvin, thank you very much for that very, very generous. And I was going to say he also sent something for you, Tom, that you

[00:03:13] Shared, I did today. Thank you, alvin. Thank you for the for the glow plugs. I will definitely use those because, me being the nitro guy, and Ron- or sorry, dave- will also use them. Ron, I tried to give him one and he just looked at me. What is this weird thing? He just I know what they are, but it’s, it’s just so. Oh, I can’t touch this, I’ll get that out of my hand. Well, one would be a.

[00:03:35] Lifetime supply for me so that would be perhaps yeah elvin thank you thank you very much very.

[00:03:41] Generous I know Ron appreciates it and I do too so and dave also I really do thank you yes so my.

[00:03:47] Weekend, hopefully, will include getting this jet all together and all done and yeah again and ready for a first. You installed the synapse. Yes, I am in the middle of installing the synapse. You are stealing thunder, I’m sorry, so that was the other thing. I’ve got the fuel tank out, obviously, because I didn’t have a clunk to put in it since we had our issue last time. So that is all torn apart and I have

[00:04:17] Replaced the receiver, got the synapse installed and it is what crooked. You installed it crooked. I drilled the holes. Obviously crooked, but I thought they were straight when I drilled them with my pin vise and perhaps it will get. It will get moved. Actually, I’m not gonna say perhaps, because it does annoy me. I didn’t have a ton of time to do it, I was kind of in a hurry because I wanted to see what this pretty new device, piece of art, was going to look like inside of it. Really, I mean the

[00:04:53] Synapse I mean for what you paid for it I guess you could you could spend that on a piece of artwork.

[00:04:58] I suppose. No, I mean seriously. Look at the, the container that this electronic device is in, the synapse thing it looked. It’s like gunmetal gray. It really looks good and honestly, oh, this sounds stupid. But same with the, with the receiver. Once I peeled the protective film off of it I was like

[00:05:15] This is kind of sexy I like this thing this is so cool so yeah I don’t ever pull the protective film.

[00:05:22] Off. No, I leave it on. That’s just well. I did at first, and then I realized it was protective film. I kind of peeled it back a little. I was like, oh, this is shiny, shiny objects. I leave it on because I

[00:05:37] Get a new product twice. When I first get it, yeah, and then, after it all gets messed up, and peel it off and oh, it’s a brand new one, yeah, yeah, I got a new transmitter just the other day.

[00:05:47] Did you finally? I finally took it off my ix12. I think mine’s still on, but it’s got a good size crease in it. It’s probably time to come off. Yeah, then you got a new transmitter. Yeah, see, I don’t.

[00:05:58] Think that’s how it works gentlemen oh resale value goes way up when they’re shiny like that sure it.

[00:06:03] Does I mean it’s called a protective film if it’s not on there then it’s not protecting anything so.

[00:06:12] Yes, but that’s usually for shipment and stuff. Until the end user gets it correct, I suppose. Yeah, like, if you buy a tv, do you peel the protective film that’s on the screen? Of course you do see. You don’t wait for two years and then pull it off and go look a new tv. No, I don’t, but I honestly I.

[00:06:34] Can’t remember the last time I bought a new tv so maybe I did leave it on I don’t know I’ll go home.

[00:06:39] And check. Well, I wouldn’t know either, because I haven’t bought a new tv for quite a while, but I did one or win one last year at work, which is how I know, because that one’s hanging up right there and I had to hang it. Nice, any whoozle. We also have a listener survey. Oh yeah, v3, we haven’t. Maybe we did bring it up. It feels like we haven’t brought it up. We talked about it. Oh, I know we’ve talked about it, but I don’t remember if we said anything last episode. Long story short: if you haven’t taken it yet, go take it. We do appreciate the feedback. We’ve got a lot of good feedback. We do, and it’s very.

[00:07:09] Helpful it is to let us know what we’re doing, right or wrong. Yep, yeah, we take the bad with the good. Sometimes I think the bad is better than good. Yeah, I would tend to agree with that, as long as it said: nicely, stop doing that. If you’re a jerk I’m gonna not be happy. But well, I don’t think we’ve.

[00:07:27] Gotten any of those? No, so yeah, appreciate the feedback. I really appreciate I can read them now. Yeah, dave’s got his email figured out now, so he’s getting. He’s getting the notifications. Check your.

[00:07:38] Junk folder at all times. Once again, stuff from our listeners is not junk, I understand, but sometimes it’s a bad filter and you have to mark it as safe. I sat down and moved them all over to the info inbox. There you go. Hey, that had to take a while. Because it was because it took me a while.

[00:07:58] Yeah oh cool so something else I did that I haven’t told you guys yet oh no I ordered the mini.

[00:08:04] Draco, oh, why’d you cringe when you told me that? Because I thought you were gonna make fun of me for buying another airplane. No, we said, we said last episode that’s cool. Well, yeah, yeah, but.

[00:08:17] Just because I also at the end of the year when we do the count exactly not planning on buying new.

[00:08:22] Airplanes. But that one got me. Yeah, it is cool looking. It’s like: yeah, I can’t feasibly spend that much money for the big one, but I would definitely look at it for the little one. Yeah, that’s my thought.

[00:08:32] The micro, yeah, not umx, not umx, just the emerald mx. Yeah. But seriously, like I, I was going back and forth like it came out, I was excited and I didn’t buy it. I was like, okay, I can handle this. See, I’m, I’m fine, I don’t need this airplane, I’m not have fomo fear of missing out, and it just took me a minute to realize what you said, and so I made the mistake of looking at it again on the website.

[00:09:07] And then I was like for a second look. Well, that was, that was dumb, this, it’s not expensive. I mean. Then you start justifying in your mind, oh yeah. And then you’re like that’s, that’s not, that’s not bad. It says in stock: oh, I wonder, if I order it now, if I’ll have it by the weekend? Oh, what the heck, let’s do it. So that was the conversation. All that I had in my mind- yeah, just in my head, without either of us there to talk you out of it. I know right. And then, unfortunately, I ordered it last 12, a week ago, and didn’t show up friday, which is fine, didn’t show up.

[00:09:43] Saturday, which that’s fine, didn’t get any shipping information or anything else, so I emailed them and found out that it’s gonna be either late march or late april. I’m sorry, that’s okay. It actually works out fine because better flying weather. I have other things I need to be worried.

[00:10:00] About before I do any of that. Yeah, well, I’m excited for you, I’m excited for I mean I’m not gonna, probably not gonna- buy one, but well, I have one, you don’t have to, so you’ll still be able to fly it, right, I mean. Yeah, I mean I figure, and I hate that I like that size of air. I know I really do, but it’s, it’s so convenient, that’s yeah, and I just: yeah, we already talked about you, have a battery for that already.

[00:10:26] Right yeah it’s the same one as the umx so timber ever whatever it is yeah about timber or ever level.

[00:10:32] Whatever. So I stroked out turbo timber evolution. That’s it. I’m concerned, dave, it’s getting a little weird. Yeah, you need to check for radon gas or something. Something down here. I’m tired, I haven’t.

[00:10:44] Gotten much left last couple nights so I’m a little a little loopy it’s okay go ahead that’s.

[00:10:49] I got nothing I was gonna say so another episode another new release from e-flight.

[00:10:57] They’re on a roll. Yeah, they are. What do you think of this one? Well, first off, what is it? First off, I can read it if you want, because I have in front of me in this other piece. I mean, I don’t have it in front of me, so go ahead. So it is a decathlon: the rgj, rj, rj, rjg version. One point new.

[00:11:17] Oh my gosh, 1.2 Meter here. Let me read that. What there just take that I’m done. Stroke over there. Yeah, so 1.2 Meter. Bind and fly basic with AS3X+ and save select 269.99. I honestly think that’s not bad and like. So it’s got nice metal gear servos in it. Yeah, it’s a good looking airplane. I really like the trim scheme and what’s in the box besides the airplane. They’re going to offer it two ways. Right, there’ll be a bind and fly and a plug and play. The bind and fly has

[00:11:49] Got pretty much everything. It’s bind and fly and fly, yeah, so for 20 more dollars. So the, the, the plug and play, is 20 bucks cheaper. So for 20 dollars you get the AS3X+ and safe select receiver, which is that’s a heck of a good deal to be for 20 dollars, I think that’s yeah. So, yeah, spectrum brushless outrunner. It’s not avian, though I was. I was surprised that I didn’t see an avian brushless motor. Oh, it’s not. I didn’t know that. I think it’s an avian speed control, but it doesn’t say so. I’m

[00:12:19] Maybe that’s just an omission on their part, but I thought that was odd when I read that. Anyway, yeah, the avian speed controller, digital metal gear- now I’m struck see digital metal geared servos. And yeah, it’s got the ar631 in it. I really like it, like if, if I was gonna buy, like who knows what, if I is going to come out with next right, that all would that.

[00:12:45] Sws timber looks really good to me. I love that. It’s a little pricey for me right now, right. So it’s like right now, of all the stuff that they’ve come out with recently, that the decathlon to me is kind of. It’s kind of floating up to the top for me. But there’s one thing I really I kind of don’t like about it- and this is the same thing I got and it’s it can be fixed. But the gray windows, the windows

[00:13:10] Those are awful. Yeah, I don’t, I don’t. I don’t like black or dark gray- yeah, but that silver is just gray or silver or whatever that is. Yeah, it makes it, and I saw it coming up. Decathlon: yeah, it’s cool and I.

[00:13:26] Saw that it’s like now listen, don’t be, don’t beat me up for what I’m getting ready to say, please I but the gray windows to me make it look like a toy. I know these are toy airplanes, I get it, I know that they are, but what I’m saying? It makes it look like a like something you’d find a cheap import.

[00:13:46] Yeah. So honestly, like you think darker gray, black or black would do it for you. Black or very dark gray. Now why are you saying that? Yet you told me coloring for windows on the Telemaster.

[00:13:59] Should be gray. Here’s why: because this is a scale. I’m air quoting a scale airplane and to me a scale airplane should look as scale as possible and the silver windows don’t make it look scale. Telemaster is not really a scale airplane. It’s becoming cartoonish and, yeah, your Telemaster is moving as far away from scale as you can get and I think the silver windows on that airplane with the colors that are on it, even though they’re kind of the same, but there’s more white on your airplane than there is.

[00:14:30] On this new decathlon, and that’s why I think the silver would sell it, so to speak. Okay, but yeah, other than the other than the gray windows, I like it a lot actually, and that would be an easy fix. Yeah, oh, it would be a piece of tape and masking tape, and some wouldn’t even do that. I’d just vinyl it. Vinyl, that’s what I was thinking too. But yeah, it would be nice gloss and don’t worry about peeling up the paint. Yeah, yeah, it would be easy enough to fix that. But yeah, I’m looking at it again. I.

[00:14:59] Really like it. What I like- servos or ball link, yeah, for something that size, I think is actually impressive. And how. I’m a big fan of ease of transport. Ease of taking apart- yes, no tools I know, yeah, and even though it has struts, it actually the struts just pop in, yep, and then it has a holder to keep them level or to keep them safe, I guess, when you’re transporting it. Yeah, thumb screws on the back, yep, and you don’t even have to insert any of the servo leads, it. It has a mating surface that plugs them in.

[00:15:35] When you put the wing on. Yep, no, I, I like it, even though I’m- I wouldn’t consider myself the intended audience for this airplane because it’s a. It’s like the next step after a trainer, really, yeah, but I’m a huge fan of decathlons and this one looks pretty good and it’s a, in my opinion. For 270 dollars, it’s. It’s actually I don’t know if I’d say bargain, but it’s worth that. I think it’s worth reasonably priced. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean, and I hate, hate, hate that I’m liking these foam airplanes.

[00:16:06] I know but yeah they have their place yes they do but I still it’s amazing the difference in us now I.

[00:16:16] Know then two or three years ago whatever it was I know I’m rubbing off on you guys I know it sucks Ron’s.

[00:16:23] But not fun. Me too, because you were into foam too. I wasn’t into it as much as it was a tool. Yeah, I got you and now it’s not a tool, it’s yeah. Hey, this is cool. I like you fly good, like the safe, they do help them out a lot. AS3X+, I’m sorry, yes, I always do that, but yes, the AS3X+ does help them out a lot and I really do like that timber, the sws one, but price wise, decathlon really kind of I know.

[00:16:58] I know I still like the cherokee better than the decathlon though see the cherokee to me is I mean.

[00:17:04] It’s, it’s very utilitarian. What I mean, like in real life, full-size life, whatever one-to-one scale. A cherokee just transports: you hop in, you fly to wherever and you get out. You don’t. It’s not really straighten level. Yeah, it’s not really a aerobatic. Exciting, okay, what I mean. Airplane whereas a decathlon, those are, those are aerobatic. So I don’t know making

[00:17:34] A pass inverted it looks all right it looks right you do that in a cherokee it’s going to be a little.

[00:17:38] Odd. Yeah you’re thinking, yeah, everybody’s getting in there, so anyway, the cherokee doesn’t do anything. I mean it looks nice, don’t get me wrong, they did a good job, but it’s just not something I would.

[00:17:47] I would go for I like more of the scale civilian stuff so I like this one too what do you think of.

[00:17:52] The colors. I really like the colors. Honestly, dave, not my favorite, especially since I modify everything. Well, true, it’s not very hard to over paint, true? True, it’s not silver or gray or gray or white or light blue to match the sky. Okay, I know, I’m old and I’m stuck in my ways. No, really, I’ve never noticed. I personally would prefer it a more traditional decathlon scheme, but oh really, I mean, this is this.

[00:18:24] Is nice. Okay, it’s close. I mean, this has got the starbursts and stuff, but it does have sort of a modern. I would just like an orange or red, I gotcha, yeah. But this is, this is his new scheme.

[00:18:36] Yeah, this is like for the year. So I mean, it’s literally modeled off of the full-size airplane which, by the way, jay gritter, that’s his airplane. Yeah, it’s colored like that. Yeah, yeah, but- and I’m good with it, but just not my cup of tea. And now the full-size airplane, by the way, has horizon on it- I don’t know if you noticed that or not- and he will be at air venture this year. Oh nice, I don’t know if we’ve talked anything else about going to air venture. We haven’t really, but we need to, yeah. So, yeah, cool airplane. I mean a good release, something different. I like it, I just like I.

[00:19:14] Like seeing more airplanes in the market. Excuse me, yeah, I’ll be interested to see once these are available and people start buying them and flying them. Talk into, you’re talking off to the side, I’m sorry. That’s okay to see what people are saying about how they fly. Yeah, I mean in the video. Of course, horizon does a really good job with their videos. They always look good, but that’s not just an average joe schmo, that’s flying it right in the hands of the average modeler. It’ll be interesting to see how these handle. I’m sure they’ll handle great. I mean, yeah, I have no reason.

[00:19:43] To believe they won’t. So that’s one. I don’t know about new, but if I saw one at a swap meet in two or three years it would probably come home with me. Yep, but yeah, cool, yeah. So what else going on?

[00:20:00] So april is coming up? Yeah, it usually follows march, usually after march, yeah, even though we’re just kind of really into the beginning of march. But if you want to talk about april, go ahead. Well, because

[00:20:11] That’s the next big thing that we’re doing yeah and I mean the next I feel like the next big thing.

[00:20:17] We are doing is maidening some airplanes and potentially running some airplanes like that.

[00:20:23] Should be like before april hopefully yeah but I don’t consider that like a an event or a trip well.

[00:20:28] I don’t know. I feel like the maiden of the 12 foot Telemaster and the beast. I feel like that’s an event. You think so. I think so, yeah, yeah, that’s like the. For me that’s the next big thing. Oh, by the way, I picked a name. Oh, for the beast, would you like to tell I have chosen? Here we go hold on, do I have drum roll? Nope, well, maybe it’s a bad name. Let’s see what it is. It was submitted by one of our listeners. Okay, of course, the beast unbroken. That’s what I’ve chosen. That makes sense, because

[00:21:06] It’s unbroken right it’s not broken anymore so therefore it is unbroken and to be fair to be fair.

[00:21:14] Lori talked me into the name, like I was on the fence, like there was there was really three names. Right, that I was that. I liked a lot, yeah, yeah, I’ll say like. So the beast unbroken was one of them, obviously. I really, really, really liked altered beast and I forget- I think that might have been steve on discord, I can’t remember. I apologize if I get that wrong, but that was one of the other ones I liked, and I still liked basket case beast, which was your idea, Ron. So all three of those I

[00:21:45] Was. I was agonizing over the choice and lori said: well, why don’t you call it beast unbroken? That way, when you crash it, you can call it beast rebroken, which I thought was hilarious when she said that, because hopefully I don’t crash it, but it was really funny when she said that and that is sort of what elevated that name and I’m sorry that the name who picked it, which was Reggie, that’s, that’s sad, which I mean. Yeah, he, it was a great name, it is a great name, it’s I just, it’s unfortunate.

[00:22:20] That it was Reggie, but don’t be such a downer. I mean sorry, Reggie, we really had hoped that it would have been one of our other listeners, but it was Reggie, so I owe him a shirt and then he and I can talk offline about that. But yeah, beast unbroken. Cali graphics is doing the graphics for me and she sent me the artwork. It’s actually already printed and on its way. It looks fabulous, it looks amazing. Like I wait, like I cannot wait to get it in my hands, to look at it. She already had, I think.

[00:22:53] The file for the original graphics, like on the beast, yeah, for the original beast. So she modified it to incorporate unbroken and it looks fantastic. I can’t wait to get it and, by the way, very reasonably priced- like I don’t know if you guys out there in listener land have, like, ever, had cali graphics do stuff for you- but very reasonable on the custom work. So, anyway, way less than what I would charge them to do it. Yeah, me too, for sure. So, yeah, I would highly recommend cali graphics. So she

[00:23:25] Needs to raise her prices. Well, I mean, maybe not easy to get a hold of. She does everything through email, so, yeah, I would prefer that. Oh, really see, I would prefer to talk to her on the phone or whatever, but oh really, yeah, but that’s okay. I mean, she was very responsive to email, so that’s that’s good. I like email. But yeah, I can’t wait to get the, to get them in my hand and put them on the airplane and take a picture and put it out there on facebook so you guys can see it. I’m really excited about it looks. It looks amazing. That’ll be cool, yeah, so can’t wait.

[00:23:58] I can’t wait to get it on there and get it flown and get that behind me, because I am a little nervous about it, if I’m honest. Oh, yeah, a little bit. You want me to do it for you. I mean, if you want to.

[00:24:08] No it’s okay I didn’t so we’re under the second name right away yeah right so I should just go.

[00:24:12] Ahead and have her next one yeah god no I can handle that one that doesn’t scare me it should be fine.

[00:24:20] Should be, it will be, it should be okay, because that’s what we strive for, we aim for, okay, so, yeah, that’s exciting. That’s the next big thing I feel like before we get to april. But yeah, april is gonna be a busy month for you guys. Well, that’s right. You’re, you’re gone all of april, aren’t you? Almost most well, at least, yeah, and over half of it, I forgot about that. Yeah, that stinks. School to go to.

[00:24:43] So I guess for me then, because I would be the only one that’s going to all these- I have three weekends out of four in april that are swap meets. So, as dave pointed out ahead of the recording, that’s 75 percent quite astute. Yes, that is dave. Can math in his head. Yeah, no calculator, he did that without getting on the fly. Yeah, that was awesome. No, so the first weekend is going to be dave myself and

[00:25:17] Daniel. I mean I know daniel’s going, but is I don’t know if Reggie’s going. I haven’t talked to Reggie- I need to do that- so sometimes it’s hard to tell if he’s going or not. Sometimes you don’t know until.

[00:25:28] You leave, and if he’s there, he’s going. If he’s in the truck, he’s going. If he isn’t right, sometimes he’s busy. I mean he’s got a lot of stuff going on. When he’s on, his schedule is rough, yeah. So when he gets back into town, yeah, I thought I thought I had heard a while back that he was going to try to.

[00:25:43] Go. But well, that’s what. That was what I heard too, but I don’t know if that’s changed. But anyway, so three or four- I don’t know- of us will be going to toledo for the toledo swap meet. I’m sad that I’m going to miss it. It’s not going to be very good. You’re not going to miss it mostly. I can’t wait.

[00:26:00] Mostly I’m yeah I’m sad that I won’t be seeing the guys dave and he’s.

[00:26:07] Not coming. I already talked to him. Oh, you did, he’s not going on. He’s got a work thing. He said so. Or is it just him, or is the whole clan not coming? No, I think they’re all gone, okay, but he’s not. Oh, so anyway, yeah, you’ll miss some of the people this year. Maybe- I mean I don’t know who goes to dayton- we’ll meet new people there, I’m sure. Probably all that, but we’ll see. So first weekend, like I said, for me is toledo. We’ve already paid for the tables and I’ve requested we are in.

[00:26:37] The same spot that was a good spot that is a good spot I like that area yep poor tommy which that.

[00:26:44] Reminds me, I owe you for the table still dave, at least part of it. Oh, I’m sorry, go ahead. What going random thought we should probably get the tables for day I was going to talk to you about.

[00:26:53] That too. We need tables and we need a hotel. Oh yeah, that’ll be all right. So I’ve got folding tables out the wazoo because of the craft business, so you’re good there. No, I mean we need to take them to.

[00:27:06] Dayton right or not. Take them to. We need to buy tables. Yeah, I don’t think you bring your own. I don’t think so. I’ve not been to date. It’s at a fairgrounds, I know that much. Two buildings according to the website. Oh see, that might be good. Looking forward to it. We missed perry, by the way, that’s.

[00:27:23] Already boring by the way we could just go to the museum yeah right patterson oh I don’t know.

[00:27:30] Air force the air force museum oh that’s there yeah you’re right serious no okay maybe.

[00:27:38] Half partially. If dayton we need all to go, yeah, yeah, if, if dayton swap meet is boring, we can go to the right patterson air force museum at right patterson air force base. Okay, definitely worth the.

[00:27:49] Trip I’ve been there well maybe that needs to be a trip thing that we do it could totally other time.

[00:27:53] It could be a total, like you could. It’s a nice long weekend. You could easily spend two days, especially if you’re into airplanes, like all of us seem to be easily. You could spend two days at that museum, okay, which unfortunately got hit by a tornado here recently. I saw that it was the restoration hangar. Yeah, took out one of the restoration hangers, which sad right, because there was some stuff in there, but it didn’t take out any of the of the what I would call the good stuff. Yeah, these were all so. Yeah, it didn’t take out any of the good stuff. You don’t have to yell, but you’re, you’re trailing.

[00:28:26] Off, quiet, and then you’re looking away, but anyway, yeah, so, dayton, we need to, probably. Oh, but there’s something in between toledo and dayton you were going to talk about. Sorry, so I don’t know who’s.

[00:28:36] Going to this one. You’re going to be out of town. Maybe I can drag everybody else with a lot closer to home. Yeah, I think we’ll be able to do this one. It should be good. So at eli field in monticello we’re having our first annual swap meet april 13th at the field, right at the field. Yes, so you can.

[00:28:54] Like buy and fly, buy and fly. Yeah, yeah, I kind of like that. Well, that’s what my plan was for toledo this year, that like not going now, well, maybe next year, maybe one of you guys should buy and fly at.

[00:29:08] Toledo for me, then I have to buy a small plane. I don’t want to buy a whole, like I’m not, I honestly I’m going to change my mind. I want to get there, but as of now, I honestly you will want to not have new planes come home with me. I want to honestly have the- I’m saying honestly a lot because I’m trying to convince myself- I want to have the biggest wad of cash possible to go to joe nol with me. So you

[00:29:33] Should not walk around. When you get to toledo, you should sit down at your table with horse blinders on, with horse blinders on watching movies on my phone. Don’t walk around, I know, because I’m gonna have to buy something, I know. But yeah, you’re gonna have this wad of cash in your hand and then you’re gonna walk around and maybe I shouldn’t bring money with me. Oh, that’s not a bad idea. Maybe I should just

[00:29:59] Whatever I sell is what I can buy. No, I don’t like that. Actually, that’s good in theory, but then the problem becomes: if you see something you like, you can’t just wait to hope you sell something to get money for it. You need to have it then and there, so nobody else buys it from you.

[00:30:14] Or before you I should say: yeah, well, that was, we’ll see how this works out. Yeah, I don’t know, dave, you’re gonna have to rein him in.

[00:30:25] I think I will be good yeah we came home with a third scale cup so I don’t think that’s true.

[00:30:32] And that wasn’t even me, so I know we didn’t even try to talk him into it. They did that all on their own. No, because normally it’s one of us egging somebody on yeah, but which usually you guys did.

[00:30:43] That without any of our help. Last year he just went. Oh, I wonder what big airplane he’s gonna buy this year. He’s taking the trailer. Right, we’re taking the trailer. Oh yeah, he’s coming home with.

[00:30:56] A plenty of room for a big airplane good for him so yeah the I’m excited about the swap meet at the.

[00:31:04] At the club I think that I would be more excited if you were able to go yeah again work sucks.

[00:31:10] Yeah but yeah I’m I look forward to seeing how it how it turns out I suspect it’ll it’ll be.

[00:31:17] Interesting at least, yeah, at the very least. It’s always not scary, but it’s always the, the uncertainty, yeah, of how many people to expect, of how to plan for this when we’ve not done it before, yeah. So who knows what the draw is going to be? Is it going to be five guys with five tables? It’s going to be.

[00:31:37] That sounds like the last one I just went to oh yeah we’ll get to that yeah we need to talk about.

[00:31:44] About, but like the last one that we all went to up north- not you, tommy, because you were gone, but the ones that we went to where it was their first one too. So what was that was? I know? Well, come on, give me a hint. Where was the light beloit, thank you. I knew it was wisconsin, but anyway. So that was the first time they’d ever done it either, or done it too, and it was just packed like they had more people than they expected. I’m hoping it’s the same way here. But the good thing is we’ll have probably the hanger that we’re going to use set tables up in there, and then we will also have

[00:32:16] A whole bunch of area where people can just sell out of their cars if they want, so it should be good. Yeah, I’m excited. Yep, probably not going to sell anything there that might be, take pictures that might.

[00:32:27] Be a buying swap mate. We’ll see there’s good stuff in that club. Well, yeah, sure there is. That’s the thing and yeah, we hit on it. I think when we talked about it last time, you would think, yeah, with the, with all the, with all the factory guys there, that there would be a lot of stuff. But maybe they can’t sell their stuff, like you mentioned. So we’ll see. It’ll be interesting to see what. What shows up. Yeah, all right, I hope it’s, I hope it’s good, I think it will be. But I do too. Yeah, because I mean people. I mean I obviously I can’t speak for everybody, but when covet,

[00:33:03] Happened. We couldn’t. We couldn’t do these things like people were like ready when, when it was back on and I don’t. I think it’s still surging. Honestly, I love a good swap meet. I mean, I really do.

[00:33:15] I don’t like the haggling, I don’t like all that stuff. I don’t find that fun- no, I don’t either, but I do enjoy. Like I said, for me it’s seeing things that I’ve not been expressed or, jesus, that I’ve not been exposed to, right, because I’ve not been in the hobby as long as, like you guys have. Yeah, where you have that knowledge, that history of, oh yeah, that came out in 1964 when I was 10 years old and it was a nice looking airplane. Then how old does he think we are? I don’t know, no, but I mean, like, seriously, it’s good to see some of the older things that I am not familiar with. Yeah, and I understand what.

[00:33:49] You’re saying a learning experience if you will so I like seeing for me I mean we can talk about.

[00:33:56] This all night if you want to. But, like for me, I like the nostalgia of it. Like I like walking up to a table and seeing an airplane that say I built in college and oh hey, I built that. I mean literally this one, but I mean, I joke, but I do. I like seeing stuff that I remember from the 80s, 90s, whatever, when I was either first getting in or oh man, I built one of those way back when and flew it with a whatever, and it just brings back a lot of memories and that, I think, is what I probably enjoy most at swap meets. I mean, I like a good deal, just like everyone else, but

[00:34:30] I think for me because I’ve been doing it for so long I like seeing stuff I haven’t seen in a long.

[00:34:35] Time yeah brings back good memories and I like I said I don’t have the old timey things to compare.

[00:34:42] It to. So what? No, you may not have the old timey stuff like that dave and I have, but you’ve been in long enough you’ll see stuff to be like: oh, I remember that well. No, I mean, yeah, you’re right, but

[00:34:53] I mean, like not some of the older stuff that I’m still being exposed to for the first time I got: yeah, dave, it’s a learning experience. Yeah, yeah. Well, that’s quite a wordsmithie, is there? I lost my train of thought. I do that all the time. To me, it doesn’t get better as you get older. I start to ramble on. Then I’m like where was I going at this point? I don’t know. Move on. I always

[00:35:16] Try to. Yeah, hmm, airplane. So yeah, yeah, the, the swap meet there in horizon that or a better horizon at eli. That’ll be fun, it’ll be good, and then after that, then, yeah, you and I get to go to that.

[00:35:29] One. That should be good. That’s a little closer, I think. Yeah, it’s not 11 hours away. No, I’m talking than toledo, oh yeah, and I’m always going to get these backwards. Now, just so like if I say toledo or dayton, I might not actually mean what I said. Just warning you now I understand. Yeah, kind.

[00:35:46] Of like, when I say safe and AS3X+, I’m not sure exactly what I’m talking about. Yeah, you mean one of them? Yeah, exactly, but yeah, I’m dating, since, since that’s the only big one I get to go to this year, or at least this spring anyway, I’m excited. Yeah, it’ll be good. So I’m selling. By the way, buy my stuff. I forgot about that. Speaking of that, go on, somebody’s already bought some of my stuff and I haven’t even made it to the swap meet yet. So that’s awesome. Sold. Yeah, I got the. I mentioned it on the last episode that I had a reactor biplane, the grid planes, and someone has

[00:36:20] Already hit me up for that, so that one is sold. Nice, yep, I’m gonna deliver it at joe noll, oh cool, yeah, let’s not talk about it. We can’t not, I know. Anyway, dayton, I’m really looking forward to a different venue, two buildings and what’s that. Like you go into one building and is that warbirds, and you go into the other building. It’s like everything. Like I’m excited. I don’t know how they’re gonna organize it, so I’m excited to see it. We’re gonna have to.

[00:36:50] Figure what we’re taking today. Yeah, we need to figure out how many tables, because I’m selling lots big stuff. Probably two. I think there’d be enough. You think so I don’t plan on. Well, maybe are you selling or are you not, or you’re just going for the ride. No, I my plan on selling if I still have.

[00:37:07] Selling planes totally the leftovers yeah I’ll be taking stuff to delete more than two tables then.

[00:37:15] Because I am. I’m yeah, there’s okay. Well, there’s so many planes that I’m on the fence about keeping because I don’t fly enough of them to justify keeping them. And I don’t I mean like it would be nice to have the room, but I like them still. What I mean? No, I

[00:37:40] Totally understand. Like, like, I’m not selling any of the planes. I’m selling because I dislike them and the same here. That is not like. So I mean truth and lending, right, I’m selling because I want to buy something else. Yeah, I mean, that’s it. So I prioritize what I want to keep, and I’ve mentioned this before on the podcast. I want to become a better pilot and I don’t feel like I can get there by flying a different airplane, like every time I go to the field. Yeah, what I mean? I need to pick one or two- maybe they have similar flying characteristics- and fly the snot out.

[00:38:12] Of them what I mean? Yeah, so all the other airplanes are just superfluous. I don’t I like them. It’s not that I dislike any of them, like I love all the airplanes I have. It’s just I have to prioritize.

[00:38:24] If I want to meet the goal that I’ve set for myself- and that’s the hard thing for me, because I, I mean, I love them all like they’re my children- I guess I don’t, I don’t know you get.

[00:38:38] Attached to them. Yeah, I completely understand like, yeah, I, I totally get it. Like the duelist, I could never get rid of that. Yeah, that’s not one after we built them together. I mean that thing means something to me, right, what I mean? Yeah, and I have lots of airplanes that, for whatever reason, mean something to me and but, yeah, I have a fair number that I’m okay with not having anymore.

[00:39:03] I think once the deed is done and it’s gone, yeah, then I will be okay. We need to help dave also. Well, we need to help each other. Like, honestly, we need a separate date. Yeah, and we’ll just, we’ll go to each.

[00:39:16] Other’s house and be like: seriously, do you need this? Does this bring you joy? I’m too emotionally attached to most of mine because I built most of my. I see that’s even worse then. I mean I would be.

[00:39:27] I would be terrible at doing something- me too, because then it’s really like getting rid of a kid. I mean, you brought this thing into existence, my contender. I could never part with that, I know.

[00:39:38] It’s not worth maybe 50 bucks, but I could never get rid of it. Well, I can’t get rid of mine, even though I don’t like it, because I love I want to have mine along with yours. Yeah, you don’t like yours. No, I, I don’t really enjoy flying it. I really don’t. It’s not even mine. Technically it’s the grandson, but he hasn’t flown it in 25 years. Oh, I love mine. I love the way it flies, but again, it doesn’t it.

[00:40:03] Doesn’t teach me the things that I want to move on to but I could never get rid of it so.

[00:40:09] That’s the balancing act. What kills me is that adverse yaw with the rudder application. That absolutely kills me and I don’t want to fly it because of that. It bothers me less, but, yeah, it bothers me but.

[00:40:20] I mean I know that’s a limitation of the airframe so and every time I fly it brings.

[00:40:26] A smile to my face it’s got the SuperTigre 60 on it that goes so that kind of does offset that a.

[00:40:32] Little bit right, yeah, yeah, and mine has a 61 fx that has not sleeve peeled yet, so I’m really happy about that too. Yeah, although I did have to put new bearings in it anyway. So, yeah, I’m selling and you are potentially selling at dayton. So at least two tables, maybe more, I think we can make two work.

[00:40:55] Okay I think I mean okay well I guess we got to make that decision fairly soon I mean I would like.

[00:41:00] Yeah but I would like to like display if you will yeah them assembled and that’s that’s.

[00:41:08] This is a two-day one right it’s friday and saturday I believe so yeah okay yeah I mean yeah.

[00:41:14] Okay, well, we’ll talk about it offline and figure out what we’re gonna do, but anyway, yeah. So, dayton, that’s like the end of april. I’m thinking about getting rid of the air tractor towards the end of april, their tractor, really. Yeah, that’s, that’s the little yellow one, right? Yeah, that’s your battery.

[00:41:29] Yeah, the one I put the 4s. Oh wait, that’s all. That’s all of them. Dave, yeah, wow, yeah, but that’s just one that I. I love the way it flies, it’s a great flyer, but I it’s kind of like you’re talking about it’s not teaching me anything, it’s not. I mean, it’s a good, just sunday flyer, just boring.

[00:41:49] Whatever you have progressed way beyond what that airplane can teach you so yeah no I get it like.

[00:41:59] That’s when I would not fly here at the house. I mean, I could, you could, but it’s, it’s borderline, yeah, yeah. And so, in order to take that apart, take it to the field, put it together, go through all that. I have other airplanes. I would rather put that work into. I get it when I get there. Yeah, I totally get it. And the erratics, that’s another one that I’m thinking about getting rid of. Oh, so that surprises.

[00:42:24] Me because you really like to fly, that I like that one a lot and that one would definitely teach you the next, yeah, so that surprises me that you but I- I get it. I mean, it’s a good flying.

[00:42:35] Airplane and I’ve used it as a tool for that, but I have other airplanes, really that are smaller, that will do the same thing. I mean, that flies a lot, believe it or not, flies a lot like that little, the umx yak, the two profile, the two sheet, the tissue one, the two sheet one. Yeah, what’s that little?

[00:42:53] Tissue one. You have what’s it called the yak, you mean the umx. Well, don’t you have like a profile one that’s like, yeah, really, really. Oh, it’s a yak, yeah, okay, all right, yeah, oh, I was thinking of the.

[00:43:05] Yellow, the, the old foam, that one. Oh yeah, that’s the. Oh, come on now. It just went out of my mind, sukoi, yeah, there we go, okay, so they’re. Yeah, yeah, I got you, yeah, yeah, that one, and I have two of those, so I’m thinking about getting rid of that. That’s right. You want a third one? You have the.

[00:43:22] Profile one no the yak that’s it quite sukoi oh no I don’t want sukoi I remember you bought.

[00:43:29] One of that flies great though. I mean I did fly that one this last year I think. I don’t think I flew it this year, but I mean there’s just once again it’s storage and it’s just like the erratic it’s. That’s a great airplane. I love how it flies. That’s the one I did the review on in the.

[00:43:44] Magazine. That’s just for that reason. You gotta hang on right. That’s what I was thinking I mean to me. I would not be able to sell that because here’s a picture of me in the magazine with this airplane, like it would have. It’s crazy. I know you’re looking at me, I get it, but well, no, what I hate is that you’re making valid points for keeping it. Rethink, oh, but I can look at five or six other airplanes that I have no problem telling you. Yeah, get rid of that, but you won’t like what? Well, there’s a certain yellow, white and purple sukoi out in the- or, I’m sorry, yeah, out in the garage that I want.

[00:44:17] No, well, that’s why you want to tell me to get rid of it. I’m not getting rid of that one. That’s the kind of planes that I want more of. No, I, I understand less of these ones that take up a lot of room, kind of thing. Yeah, but I don’t know. Yeah, I understand, I get it. Yep, it’s a. It’s a. It’s a first world struggle. So you really are trying to talk me out of that card and yak just because you want it. Yeah, wow, what a friend you are and, oddly enough, I bought that off of you. I.

[00:44:47] Know. So what’s the your? Is that just I miss it. Oh, okay, again like I don’t know, I’m weird. No, that would be an airplane. That would be a tool for me because that flies the way. I want to learn how.

[00:45:01] To fly next and that’s my thought you too I’m keeping it yes well then you should keep it I.

[00:45:06] Plan. Okay, I’ll keep looking for another one, then you can fly mine. Okay, cool, that works, I guess. So what, you can fly my bees. If I mean, if it makes it past the mat, the maiden, I, I hate to say it, I might actually do that. I hope you do only because nothing would make me happier than if you were to fly one of my airplanes. But what if I rebroke it? Then it would be beast rebroke, but then I don’t care, it’s worst.

[00:45:31] Case scenario: he’s gonna fall in love with a biplane, and I doubt that’s the only biplane. I shouldn’t say that’s about the only biplane that I’ve ever considered. It’s one of few, yeah for sure. So if I see, like at a swap meet, the 60e size beast- I know that’s a great size, though that is one that would definitely come home with me- yeah, I mean that’s. There’s a certain airplanes too. Yeah, there are certain airplanes that if I ever see- and they’re not stupid expensive- is a must buy because you can’t get those anymore. I saw one of those at one of the fly-ins last year and it’s, it’s a great airplane.

[00:46:04] Like I love the look of it yeah and it’s your colors you love those colors I think that might.

[00:46:09] Be where I actually learn to love those colors. I mean, like really that airplane or airplane, that frame, the colors on everything just look really good together. Yeah, well, I hope you do, I hope you do like.

[00:46:20] If this one survives the maiden, I hope you do fly it, because that would really make it will survive the maiden, I know. But I don’t want to jinx it right. I don’t want to say, oh yeah, fly it. But understood, yeah, get past the maiden, make sure I don’t fly the wings off of it. Dave’s concerned about the wing. I’m afraid it’s going to become a convertible.

[00:46:39] Oh well, I mean that’s. I mean it’s a distinct possibility, it is, but so I wouldn’t 3d it or anything at first. No, no, not right. At first it’ll be your basic, yeah, basic flying, take off, circle land- yeah. So landing gear, also kind of sketch. That’s what I’m my biggest concern. But anyway, we’ve talked about that already. So, yeah, I’m excited about dayton. Buy my stuff if you see me there.

[00:47:05] Oh please so we will have airplanes to get rid of oh and it’s not just everything it’s like I have.

[00:47:10] Boxes of stuff that I already started compiling to take with me. I mean, it’s a lot of stuff. Wheels- if you guys are looking for wheels, I’m gonna have, roughly conservatively, 40 pair. Are they big? There are. Well, I know you like big wheels, I love big wheels, and I did, I did reserve a pair specifically for you. Oh, you did, I did. That’s very kind, but I there are big wheels, little wheels, tail wheel, like I got you got them all. See, that’s. I think I have a sickness because

[00:47:45] I would love to have all of those wheels so buy them from me well that’s the point I don’t need to.

[00:47:51] You’ve got more space to store them than I do but I’m I have more needs than you do what does that mean.

[00:47:58] Oh, you’re, you’re bronco, I do, I want a bronco. I do, too, want you to have a bronco. I also want a jet. Goes on, right, I know that’s, I know. And they’re all competing like it’s weird. I don’t. Maybe do you guys go through this, listeners. Do you guys go through this? Like one week I’m really hot for a bronco, right, the ov10 hanger. Nine bronco, like I won it badly, right. And then the next week it’s like, yeah, the bronco is cool, but oh man, look at this new thing from insert manufacturer. Right, then I’m, I want.

[00:48:34] That for like the next two weeks I’m doing everything I can to get like. The next week it’s something else and then I’m back to the bronco. It’s like it’s an what is wrong with me. No, I, I’m the.

[00:48:46] Same way I’m, so I’m gonna be honest. The bronco is one that I also would love to have. I worry, though, that what are you shaking your head on? What am I? What am I worried about? I think you’re going to.

[00:49:03] Tell me I should buy it now because it could go out of production at any minute no oh but that is.

[00:49:08] That’s correct. But what I’m gonna say is I’m I’m worried that is one that I would buy, and then I mean it’s. I’ve seen them fly. They fly great, they fly slow. They’re a big trainer.

[00:49:21] Well, and a little bit past, not much. I mean, they’re very stable, but they can be, they can be thrown around the air pretty good. I’ve seen them. We saw them fly, yeah, in capable hands. We saw them fly, yeah, last year at the jonah and they, they, you can toss them around pretty good. I know anyway, but I just I.

[00:49:40] I’m afraid that is one that I would get bored with I can see that like I could totally see that.

[00:49:49] Yeah, and to be honest, that is that thought has crossed my mind as well- like this is a neat airplane, but will I outgrow it? I love the airplane. Like I feel like that is not. I talked about a few minutes ago that I don’t feel like that is the tool to make me the, give me the skills that I’m.

[00:50:09] Looking to acquire yeah if that makes sense well you would need more of 3d type airplane and that’s.

[00:50:16] What I’ve been looking at lately and that’s what I’m hot after lately: like and like what size. So extreme flight makes a really a beautiful 104 inch extra ng. Just yeah, it’s extras fly good. I know I’m not a big fan- me too like- of the extra shape, the colors that they put- like the silver dave would like it the silver red and I think it’s got some black on it. It’s really well done and- and I don’t know if you follow extreme flight, I do- they have

[00:50:53] They’re? They’re like wing locks. There’s no tools to put them together at the field. The wings slide in and they have these cool little latches and they lock and that’s it. There’s no tools, no.

[00:51:03] Screws is that what came off on Reggie’s plane the other day though he had a wing that came off but I.

[00:51:10] Think he did not check the latch, that he had it fully engaged. Okay, at any rate, they fly amazing and that is a great size, 104 inch. It’s big. Was that 70 cc, 110, oh, 110, yeah or 100? So I would have to acquire, but I would have to acquire all that for the bronco as well and the bronco would probably be more expensive. The bronco is definitely more expensive the way I would want to do it with the electric and all that stuff. So yeah, again, it’s, it’s extreme. Flight extra ng this week next.

[00:51:45] Week is back to the bronco or who knows what else, like, yeah, dave, I think he said it, go ahead. No, go ahead, add. Yeah, maybe it’s add, I don’t know. Yeah, I’m on a phantom kick this week because you’ve been working on one, I know, but it’s just, and that’s a good flying one too. Well, yeah, it is, but it will be, we’ll talk about later. I had just had a random thought in my head about that phantom, but they

[00:52:11] Can wait. But yeah, phantoms, you want a big one, I want a big one. I can’t afford a jet. Yeah, it’s just the feasibility, and our operating off of our field would be pathetic. Yeah, that would be tough, but the freeway one keeps coming up. That’s a good looking airplane. Yeah, they had. I think it was one of.

[00:52:31] Those for sale at one of the swap meets last year. Yeah, it popped up at a couple and it was well a little overpriced. Oh, really little. I mean, I think the one I saw was like 200 bucks and that wasn’t the one I was looking at and I was very close, but I was like that’s, I think the free wing is over four, it’s.

[00:52:51] Around four and change for our new one. Yeah, and the one I was seeing popping up at swap meets. He was wanting like 375, oh yeah, and it had some dings on it. It’s like, well, there are two of them. I don’t.

[00:53:04] Remember where it was but there are two of them at the swap meet I saw one of them was sitting.

[00:53:07] Outside like where you went in oh yeah that was not a free wing I don’t know what that was but that.

[00:53:12] Was not free wing oh okay the free wing one it’s twin 70 or is it bigger I think it’s just a single 90.

[00:53:20] Oh, it’s a single. Okay, I don’t look at it on purpose. Yeah, I know well, if you’re selling stuff too, maybe that should make room for one to come in. Yeah, because it’s roughly the same size, my 15 and.

[00:53:32] It’s a single 90.. Okay, yeah, see, your f15 is cool looking, but f4 is a lot nicer looking. In my opinion, f-15s are cool airplanes, but not near my list of top. F-15s and f-16s are kind of low. Yeah, yeah.

[00:53:47] F-18s, f-4s. To me, I feel like the f4. The shape of it, the overall appearance of it is more interesting than the next. It’s got a very menacing look to it. It’s growing on me. It’s one I didn’t.

[00:54:01] Used to like. The more I see him- yeah, the phantom- the more I see him. I’m like that’s a. You don’t see him in person anymore. Obviously they don’t fly him anywhere, yeah, and so it’s. It’s a cool historical.

[00:54:12] Kind of aircraft well it’s just yeah it’s it’s more than just a bunch of straight lines I would.

[00:54:17] Kind of like to do a tyndall two-pack tyndall air force base. We’ll do one of the death row f-4s and a tyndall f-22 from free wing. That would be cool, that’d be a neat. There you go something to cool little, not really a kit bash, but a re-repaint. Yeah, I’ve already done our, my f-15 in the repaint for tyndall. So 325th fighter squadron- cool. You should sell that to build up funds, like I said, f-15s.

[00:54:44] Don’t excite me very much. Yours is awesome. I love my f-15, but it’s just not f-15 too. Yeah, anyway, yeah, so, yes, we will be excuse me, selling and hopefully buying something new, but you were wanting to take- you said- the beast to journal. I would- or should we not be saying that at this point, if it?

[00:55:06] No, if it with the caveat. I feel like if we put the caveat out there, that takes the hex off the talking about it ahead of time, what I mean? So, if it survives, the maiden, yeah, I would like to take the beast to joe null, yeah, because it’s, it’s, I don’t know. See, I’ve not thought about what. I’m sort of associated sort of, with the podcast, with the listeners, in the naming sort of contest. So you’ve, you’ve mentioned possibly wanting to take that.

[00:55:35] Take the trash can Telemaster again of course really I gotta put a new prop on it but yeah but.

[00:55:40] You think that’s I have to redeem myself I have to land it without breaking the prop and you want.

[00:55:46] To take the 12 foot Telemaster too, that we have not flown yet. I do that’s. You guys got a lot of work to do. That’s a lot of airplanes. You want to take the jet? I might? I mean, I don’t know, like that’s.

[00:55:57] That’s another thing I don’t know sure should take the jet I think I don’t know if I’ll be ready.

[00:56:02] If everything’s ready. I’m saying I mean like it’ll be flown by then. But I don’t know if I’ll be comfortable flying in front of people and all that stuff with really expensive jets. What I mean, I understand there’s there. These jets will be there anyway. I mean the horizon is going to be there demoing them, so there will be that jet already there. I’ll fly that one if I have extreme flights doing a jet. Are they really? Yeah, oh wait, what is it? Did I see that? I don’t think they’ve.

[00:56:29] They’ve like put it like out there mainstream yet, but yeah, they’re working on one nice. I’m not sure when it’ll be available, but that’s pretty exciting. Is that what you’re wanting? Then, do what it is, though at least I, or just that they’re. They’ve produced a like a rendering and it looks very much to me like a like a kind of like the e-flight viper jet, the viper like night looks. It’s kind of like that, mixed with the, the futura, kind of it’s sharp, like if it comes out the way they have it rendered. Yeah, that’s sharp, okay, and I don’t know the size yet. Like I don’t.

[00:57:03] Know if they’ve put that out there, but I’m sure it’ll be amazing. Smaller would probably be better than yeah. Yeah, because everything, everything, yeah, everything- they have produced lately has been like they- not, I guess, extreme flight fanboy, even though I don’t own any of their stuff yet. Like I said, yet, yeah, but like you, they, they have nothing in stock. Like they are sold out and like they, they provide hope. I’m not like giving away good information, but on their website they have

[00:57:34] Like the container schedule so they know what’s coming in and stuff, and most of that is already sold out, yeah. Yeah, I mean good for the company, right, but yeah, it’s sad for people who like don’t pre-order and like me and yeah, don’t. But that’s the problem with horizon stuff too. So I

[00:57:53] Didn’t get in on the draco thing at first so that shipment’s gone now there’s more coming in because.

[00:57:58] I mean honestly, you could have potentially ran into that with the jet. Remember that. Oh, I did have that issue with the jet I. I thought it still came in a little bit earlier than you were expecting, though.

[00:58:05] Yes, but I did not get first shipment, right, yeah, which that’s just part of the timing. I waffled too long and I mean, and that’s okay, like, yeah, that was a lot of money, right that I wasn’t planning on spending to pre-order first day. Yeah, I mean like not knowing what it was, not knowing what was being announced, right, and then not having the fundage sitting there, having to kind of get a few.

[00:58:30] Things in order for that is it weird that I can’t wait to see what horizon does next, like it’s like if the jet is successful, which I think it is- yeah, it has been like I’m excited to see if they continue that and see what’s next. Like I’m excited, that’s what. It’s a good time to be in the hobby. Well,

[00:58:49] It is. But I’m gonna be honest- that’s the other thing- that, like I have certain money set aside for stuff, just in case, because you don’t like, honestly, you don’t know, nice, oh, I mean, come on, now you guys have to have something. I’m not talking about like a big chunk of change, but if there’s a another airplane that comes out and I decide I want it, at this point I think what he

[00:59:14] Considers a chunk of change is different than what I can my chunk of change is way different than his.

[00:59:18] Yeah, mine too. Okay. So here’s the thing. Right now I am glad I do the laundry in the house because my sock drawer has my stash in it and my wife ever found out what was in that stash. I don’t even have a stash, so I anyway. Anyway, yeah it’s, my stash is minuscule, I’m sure, compared to

[00:59:36] His no that’s come on that’s not true that’s it’s kind of true so next is moving on moving on Ron.

[00:59:47] Doesn’t want to talk about his stash well we money he has set aside for a new airplane so he could just.

[00:59:52] Buy it. Well, I mean, you have to have something just in case, and that’s what I’m concerned about. If I drain it by ordering a bronco and then having to get all the other stuff for that, then there is no option of: oh, holy heck, they just came out with this that I really, really want, I get that, I’m locked in and I, I don’t need airplanes. I mean, let’s be honest, yeah, none of this is all just. Honestly, I need whining and being stupid about stuff. First world problems and I really, before I think about

[01:00:22] Buying anything else should finish the jet wow should finish the Telemaster I thought the Telemaster.

[01:00:28] Was finished no it’s close thanks to you he had like 10 minutes of work left to do on it three weeks.

[01:00:36] Ago three weeks ago, three weeks ago, but I did the graphics, which took longer than anything, and then I told you: so okay, let’s have a idea, fest okay, thought shower okay, if you will. So this is very cartoony now. I love it. Not only I do, too. Not only does it have the bulbous nose that rudolph’s nose I had, I am in on now. Like when I first saw it, it was one of those things where I was like: this is, this is.

[01:01:10] Hideous. This is whatever, and it still is probably hideous. I’d like it, however, be better if it squeaked. Yeah, you come up to it, that’d be funny. So it has eyes. Now I’ve put eyes on it and I’ve put mouth on it, so it’s a very cartoony looking airplane. We’re gonna put figure out a way to put dog ears on it like flapping in the wind, that maybe they should actually be like cloth dog ears. Oh, I thought about.

[01:01:37] That but it’s probably going to flap too much I mean it’s a Telemaster it’s not going to go that.

[01:01:42] Fast that’s right behind the prop yes yeah behind the prop not in front of it just as long as it’s.

[01:01:48] Not long enough to that might not be a bad idea I’m thinking you could experiment with that pretty.

[01:01:54] Easily anyway. Well, that changes a lot, because I kind of like that idea and that actually leads into what else I was going to bring up, but I don’t want. I guess I don’t even know if I had a point about the Telemaster. Oh, that’s what we were getting. Idea fest, you want ideas. So I’m- because this is all cartoony now and not, like I said before, a serious airplane it’s. I want to do a candy drop in it and we’ve kind of talked about that before, but I don’t know the best way to incorporate that, which is why this is. It’s all coming around now. This is why I was brought, or brought this up, it’s so.

[01:02:29] Cute when you complete a thought you had said I didn’t finish it. And the reason I didn’t finish it is because now that it’s this cartoony, I want it to have the candy drop. So we need to figure a way of doing the candy drop, and whether or not I should mount the batteries where I was going to mount the batteries. Oh man, it finally all comes together. Now I understand what I was going for, but anyway, so with that, yes, what is the best way to mount a candy drop? Well, I agree, we talked about

[01:03:00] It a little bit, just a little bit before, but we didn’t get into it. I like the idea of putting a pod, like on the bottom of the fuselage, that you can take off if you don’t need it, like if you’re going to glide or tow, for example, just like the caravans did. Yeah, yeah, they just, they just clip or bolt on or whatever luggage pod. Yeah, with a hole to run a servo wire or whatever, with a servo operated door on the back of it and you just attach it to the bottom of the fuselage. You make it- I mean, there’s a lot of clearance- you make it as big as you want and then, yeah, you got a little.

[01:03:32] Door at the bottom or at the back of it and you just servo operate it and it’s right on the center.

[01:03:38] Of gravity. Yeah, that’s my vote. So how big? I mean like what is? I mean as big as we can physically- I’m trying to look at it- but I mean as big as you can physically get it there. I would say the width of fuselage by 10, 11 inches, by how tall? Well, I mean, you only need a few inches. Yeah, four, four inches, five inches. Oh, that was four inches. I’m going on the small side.

[01:04:06] Okay but maybe that’s something I’ll need to try and I like that idea because we don’t have to modify.

[01:04:12] The interior of the fuselage and then you can put the batteries exactly where we were going to put them.

[01:04:17] For ease of use. Yeah, and that was the other thing that scared me too, is hacking into the bottom of this. Yeah, the only place to do it successfully that, I would think, is pretty much where the landing gear.

[01:04:27] Blocks are: yeah, so I didn’t want to. Okay, yeah, I don’t, I would. So some sort of removable pod on the bottom, exactly. I say easily removable, right when you don’t need it. You don’t need it, it’s gone. Yeah, yep.

[01:04:39] I agree that’s probably the easiest and less intrusive to the airframe, because it would just be four, potentially four- maybe nylon bolts into some wooden block or blind nuts with hard points, whatever, okay, easy peasy, like you could probably cut that design, that on the laser, probably in an evening, honestly okay, and then that might be what I mean. Cover it white or like brown, maybe like the dog’s belly or something, I don’t know. You could play with the colors or whatever, and then yeah,

[01:05:10] Or match the tail and do blue or something. Yeah, yep, put a red stripe on it or something. Yeah to. To match the other graphics: yeah, white with the blue and red stripe. Oh okay, you had a thought you were.

[01:05:22] Laughing, I cannot say that: okay, yeah, so then the other thing I was going to say is: I, I did, haven’t got it yet, but I bought a heavy duty sewing machine. Oh, because we have talked. I don’t know if we talked about this online, I don’t think we have no, but anyway, so in the in the background, we need wing bags. We need lots and lots of wing bags, yeah, so I want to try to make wing bags. I.

[01:05:50] Absolutely hate like as far as the hobby is concerned I’m not sure there’s anything that makes me more.

[01:06:00] Angry, I’m not sure, crotchety, maybe then hanger rash like, yeah, poking holes in MonoKote on wings, I know if they’re fabric covered, tough, I get it, dave, I get it. But nothing infuriates me more than dragging a wing out my basement and then banging it up against the screen door and putting a hole in the covering or whatever. So, yes, we need wing bags. Storage is easier. Yeah, they’re protected when protecting them, yeah. So yeah, there’s a lot of. You can usually carry the wings together easier if

[01:06:34] They’re contained in a bag, yeah, and we’ve got some airplanes that have some bigger wings, so yeah, they will have to be. If we order them anywhere, they would have to be custom, and so like, for example, for the.

[01:06:47] Beast. I would love to have bags for the beast but, like the last set of beast specific wing bags I saw sell, they were like 300. Yeah, I mean I could buy lots of other things for that. Yeah, so, and that’s.

[01:06:59] My thought too. So, like, I don’t know how to sew, but it can’t be that hard, can it? I mean it’s a skill that you can learn for sure. Yeah, I mean it’s. It’s- I’m probably oversimplifying- wing bags, but looking at how they’re built, they look pretty simple. Yeah, they’re pillowcases. They don’t look terribly difficult.

[01:07:16] To make and let’s be honest like I don’t need a professional set of wing bag no I just want.

[01:07:21] Something to protect my wings? Yeah, so it doesn’t have to be pretty, no, it has to. Really, doesn’t utilitarian, exactly do what it needs to do. Yeah, so ordered one of those. I seem to have a very bad luck with ordering things lately. Yeah, you do so. I ordered this like two weeks ago. It got lost in the mail. Oh my, it’s a sewing machine. I know how small. Could it be right? How do you lose that? So that also got lost in the mail, just like my, my clunks did, although they said with the clunks.

[01:07:51] It was delivered. So I guess those technically didn’t get lost. They just went somebody else who has no clue what they are and probably throw them away, but anywho, so got lost in the mail. Finally, yesterday had the amount of time where I could file a claim with the. It was through walmart that I bought this one. I was able to get my money back yesterday, so I turned around and ordered one off amazon. That will be here, I think, monday, hopefully, hopefully, I mean we’ll see, maybe I just I don’t.

[01:08:22] Understand the shipping stuff anymore, like I really don’t get. I ordered a few. Well, actually for the big Telemaster I ordered some servo extensions because I needed 248s and 236s to get to the tail. Yeah, you ordered those off amazon, that’s interesting, not amazon horizon. Oh, did I say amazon? You did sorry, so I meant horizon. Okay, order those off horizon, which literally is an hour and ten minutes from here. Right shipped yesterday and I checked today. I’ll have it monday is what it says, monday. So three:

[01:08:53] Days to get an hour and a half. I checked today and fedex said that it just got to their distribution center in tennessee. Why I don’t understand. That makes no sense. I don’t understand that. That me neither. I’m not in logistics, but that doesn’t seem to make any sense. Well, I, on the other hand, have had

[01:09:16] Tremendous luck with shipping. So I ordered some batteries for may main last week. They were supposed to be here on saturday. The next day after I order them, I get an email going from: oops, we’re sorry, your order’s delayed. They’ll be here friday. They showed up thursday. Well, that’s not delayed, but that’s okay. So delayed was actually a day earlier than what they originally said it was going to be. And then I get them a day earlier than that. Yeah, good job, amen, I’m glad you got that. There’s a lot of.

[01:09:45] Weird things going on it’s especially like lately with amazon I’ve ordered stuff and that their shipping.

[01:09:51] Has been all over the place. Amazon is terrible lately. Yeah, it’s been like two-day shipping is no longer a thing. Like we will order things and we live in the country. So because of that, like it takes a day longer to get here, for some odd reason, than if you lived in town. We are still seven to eight days from when we order it’s when we get it here. Off amazon, off amazon. Yeah, ours isn’t quite that bad, but

[01:10:16] Like, yeah, two-day shipping is no longer. That’s like I think that’s days of the past, because I haven’t gotten anything in two days from amazon in a while, yeah, and you guys are in town so you should be able to right get stuff quickly. So that’s sad. Yeah, like I ordered some dubro servo arms because I can’t make a trip up to brian’s to buy them, so I ordered them off amazon and I got the same notice. Oops, we’re sorry your shipment is delayed, but then the new arrival date is exactly the same as the arrival.

[01:10:47] Date that it gave me initially. So I don’t, that’s weird and yeah, it makes, and I think that stuff will be here saturday. The stuff to finish the beast. I had to order servos. I don’t know if I mentioned that, but for the beast, all right. So you’re not using the 87 11s. They’re not high voltage, correct and I’m going high voltage with the batteries that you made me put the second battery in. I forgot you ended up doing a second battery, guilted me into doing. I didn’t guilt you into you kind of guilt, not guilted me, but scared you into. Yeah, well, we’ll say that. But I am listen, I am going to check them.

[01:11:21] Like I’m going to fly it- hopefully it gets past the maiden- and then I’m going to check them and see how much I pull out of them, and if it’s not very much, I am going to experiment with.

[01:11:31] One battery maybe not with the beast but I just made a note to give you the amp meter that I forgot.

[01:11:36] To give you last time two weeks ago yeah so I ordered some more of my favorite pro modeler servos.

[01:11:43] I see you have a can cozy or can koozie whatever you want to call it that’s I’m very proud of this.

[01:11:48] Pro modeler and it’s got a picture of the has a 270 on it yeah good servos I mean good for you.

[01:11:55] We’ll see awesome yeah have you ever flown with one before not yet so you can’t say they’re good.

[01:11:59] Servos. Well, so far on the bench they’ve been, they’ve been very good. Okay, they go back to center, exactly where they’re supposed to, every single time, no matter how much or little I move the stick. Yeah, and to me that means a lot. So that does mean a lot, and these 415s are crazy fast, crazy good. I can’t wait to see it fly me too, hopefully soon. Ah, yes, what were we talking about? I don’t even remember.

[01:12:28] What I did get though finally I got my contest director certificate in the mail Ron is now a cd I am.

[01:12:38] So if you want him to direct your contest, he’s the man. No, it’s just, it’s good to be able to have that to help out well, especially being: yeah, we’re doing vp. Yeah, you should probably have that. Yeah, so you still.

[01:12:52] Get free dues for that. A club vp, no cd. You get half off. Half off, it used to be free, well, and no it’s. If you run, I think, you have to run. So the first year, I think, you have to run two contests in order to get the half off. The first one is kind of like your trial to make sure everything goes okay, and then the second one, I guess, is they take the training wheels off and you can do it on your own. So after that one, yes, then the next year you would get half off. But I mean, I let’s be honest, is it that?

[01:13:27] Big of a deal, like I don’t care about that little bit. I mean, do you kind of see what I’m saying? Or I don’t understand why they do that, like it should still just be full dues. Yeah, I don’t know, like I’ve paid.

[01:13:41] I’ve paid three years. I mean, potentially you’re bringing new people into the hobby and therefore new people joining ama and helping our cause. They’re because they lobby for us, right, I guess? So I could, I could kind of see that point of it. Yeah, okay, well, anyway. So anything like, honestly, anything we can do to bring people into the hobby, I think is a good thing. I agree, and if that means giving you half off your dues for being a cd and putting on events, so be it. Okay, yeah, like I don’t, like I.

[01:14:11] Said: I’ve paid three years in advance, so I don’t know how that will work. Yeah, and I’m not worried about it right now. Yeah, I think I’m good to 25.. Let’s, let’s just say so. That was not a contributing factor. That wasn’t why you did into me deciding. No, I figured you did it because you’re you’re.

[01:14:26] A club vice president. It would be helpful to the club. That was the. That was the plan. Yeah, that’s what I figured. Yeah, I didn’t even know you got half off, that’s cool. Yeah, nice little perk it is, I guess.

[01:14:37] I don’t know. So let’s, before we talk about the last thing, you guys have anything else you want to get to? No, no, I’m good, are you sure? So here’s the most exciting part. I think we say, oh my gosh, I’m so excited. So we finally- and yes, we’re going to talk about joan all. So if you don’t like it, turn.

[01:15:02] Off now and go away. Yeah, we saved talking about joan all till last, so the people who don’t want to hear us blather on about joan all can sign off now if you want to. But why would you excited so we?

[01:15:12] Finally I feel like we paid our dues the first year we finally got premium camping premium camping.

[01:15:21] We got a spot and boy what a roller coaster that was that was harder than it had to be oh my gosh.

[01:15:31] So the three of us, yep, you, me and your wife, not dave. When I said three of us, I thought I don’t want them to think, but anyway, dave didn’t want premium camping, by the way, right, right, I mean you’re he’s happy with like, give me a fire or a flint or something to start a fire.

[01:15:50] I don’t know. Daniel was talking about a tent instead of dragging my trailers like hell. No, I’m not going to be sleeping in a tent. There’s guys there that. There’s guys there, there’s people that do that. But I own a trailer. The guy next to us last year did that, yes, and he was very happy. He seemed very happy. I would not have been. I’m not sleeping in a tent in south carolina. No, not in that.

[01:16:11] Humidity for a week now I will say the one thing that I did see the rhode island guys do where.

[01:16:21] I’m going. No, they had a tent. Well, okay, what? It was? Full of airplanes. Yeah, that’s a good idea. That was their hanger. Like that’s a good idea. No, I’m not. I’m not disagreeing, but like they didn’t dry camp.

[01:16:38] In a tent no but their planes did what I’m saying like that’s a good idea my well we do the.

[01:16:45] Craft show and we’ve got a commercial easy up yeah with sides and yep yeah we’re bringing that as a.

[01:16:51] Hanger. Let’s see that’s a good idea. Yeah, like the tent thing I just thought was an awesome idea, only because I’d never thought about it. And secondly, that has your floor in it and it’s all sealed from dew and all that kind of stuff in the morning, true, so your airplanes are not going to get dewy. But anyway, I have a tent we can take if you want. Well, I’m, there’s probably room in the rv, okay, and we’ll.

[01:17:15] Take it maybe. Yeah, we’ll take it. It’s like an eight person. It’s a big tent. Okay, yeah, we’ll take it. Worse, it’s a small bag. We don’t put it up. Yeah right, you throw it under a seat anyway. So we’re.

[01:17:26] Very excited. Yes, and the way this went down was, I mean, it was a roller coaster of emotion. I don’t know what the most fair way is of doing this. I really don’t like. Last year we didn’t get one because that timed out it goes so fast, like literally seconds. Yeah, you’re not talking about 30 seconds, you’re talking about five seconds. Oh, yeah, I would be interested to know how many people

[01:17:55] Were actually vying for spots yeah because of how quickly and lucky you I mean let’s be honest between.

[01:18:04] The three of us. Well, go ahead, I don’t want to. No, you’re fine. So you’re what? Okay, so we had a little text group. We were texting each other and stuff, trying to figure out where do we want to go. I didn’t realize. So eventbrite is who you have to use in order to buy right your spot. Yes, I didn’t realize. They had an app. Luckily, your wife said something about she had the app up and she was going to be on the computer and try and do both to see if she got it anyway right or either way. And so I downloaded the app and got to it that way and found where I was going, or found the actual event, and

[01:18:41] Stuff which was harder to find than it should have been. So you’re talking about the eventbrite app. The eventbrite app, yes. And so then for me to find the event, the joe knoll premium camping thing, like I tried to search for it, you couldn’t search, it did not come up, so I had to go try and find the link in order to bring it up and click on it. That way, once I got it up, I think the first time I did was an hour early, just to see how everything went through, process, yeah, and see what was going on.

[01:19:11] And then I don’t remember what it was, but they said that they had areas that you could pick that were best available. There was some in river, there was some in crater. Where else there was by some- I think it was one each. It could have been like: I mean, it’s quite possible. Well, maybe I don’t, I don’t know. There was probably more this year, and here’s why I say that crater is new, so that’s 16 spots that were not available last year. Does that make sense? Yes, so I think there were more this year, which is:

[01:19:46] Probably why we got it than there were. Last year, maybe, having said that there was three spots that were open- I don’t remember what the third one was, do you? Because we said we didn’t want that one.

[01:19:58] River was our first choice. Crater or something like that. It was on the road and we- oh no, no, it was the ones way at the top of the map, which I’m not. That map was weird, like those maps are always like.

[01:20:12] Now that I’ve been there, I understand what they’re trying to say, but before I went I could not make heads or tails of it. Anyway, I digress like I always do. So we were all on there, we had a plan, we knew we were all going to try and get a spot, and if we got it we would text and say, hey, I got it. And then we would move on, yes, and say, well, I did too, or I didn’t, or I’ll back out whatnot, right? So out of the three of us doing it, your wife did not get one. Nope, I got one right, and it was river, yeah, and which was

[01:20:44] Our first choice. That was our first choice, and so I went through and tried to check out. So I it let me through to the page, and then it asked me how many I wanted and I hit one, moved on to the next page and then it said something about the seats you chose. Because they consider the seats, because it’s like a- yeah, it’s a concert, like a concert venue thing, the seats you chose are not next to each other, which I chose one. So that made no sense to me. So then it said to go back, which I did.

[01:21:17] And then nothing was available. Everything it said sold out, yeah, and this is 10 seconds max. It was very, very, very quick, right? And so then you texted and said you got one yep and my original no, oh, crater. You said yeah, yeah. And so my first question back to you was: did you check out? Yeah, because when I tried,

[01:21:43] To check out. I lost it, right. And so what happened to you? Yeah, so I clicked the link. I was on the website, right, so I didn’t use the app, but I was on the website and like, so you had to click out of it and then you’d have to click back in to event info and then that’s what would take you to the event bright buy button, right, so I had it timed so that I would click the event details button and I had it figured out. It takes four seconds. I think it was for it to open up the page to.

[01:22:18] The event thing to where I could click buy. So I backed it up right and I clicked the button right on time that I had calculated, and it took me to the buy page and the buy button was like not grayed out, like it was grayed out before because I tested it- yes, as did I, quite a bit right. So the buy button was like not grayed out, it was available to click. I was like, oh, so I clicked it and yeah, and it took me. It said select the number of seats, selected one and then

[01:22:50] It asked me, I think it gave me an option because I had best available selected. And it gave me the option because it showed you all three options and the only option that was clickable was crater. So I clicked crater, I clicked one, clicked crater and it took me to the, to the checkout page. I was like cool, and that’s when I texted you guys, I got one right. So then from there, there was only, I want to say there was three ways to pay. Paypal was one. I think venmo might have been.

[01:23:26] Another one. And then there was another online payment method. There was no option to input a credit card, or if there was, I it was. It was not clickable, right? Yeah, I have a paypal account, so I’m like, cool, I’ll just pay with paypal, not a big deal. Click the paypal link and got the blue circle of death. It just kept spinning. So now- and that’s when I- I think that’s when I- saw your message- have you paid yet?

[01:23:57] And I forget if I responded, but I think my response was something to the effect of paying now or something like that. So and so I was happy, like I was excited. I was too. I was super, super excited. I mean, all that’s left to pay, I mean I’ve got that’s, I’ve got the it’s in my cart, it’s.

[01:24:13] Mine. So all I gotta do is pay for it. I got mine, I was happy. I lost it, I was pissed. Then you said you:

[01:24:19] Got yours, I was happy. Yeah, so blue circle of death. And now I’ve got this dilemma right. Like well, I know this thing is in my cart. Looks like paypal’s got some weird thing with the with the sign on. If I click the back button- because that was the only thing I could do, like there was no other thing that I could click on the screen, like paypal had my screen like locked out on my computer and the only thing available were the navigate buttons, right. So I’m like, oh man, if I click back, am I going back to paypal’s checkout page or am I going back to the event details page?

[01:24:57] But the only thing I could do- I mean I couldn’t- it was just the paypal was not doing anything, it was not allowing me to log in. So I clicked back and, sure enough, gone, not in my shopping cart, nothing, just gone. And then so I was super, super pissed, if I can say that. I was really, really mad, like mad. And I was mad, I think, more at paypal, yeah, then, than the event organizers, but mad at the circumstance, mad at everything, just mad. And then that’s when I texted. I think I texted.

[01:25:30] Lori first, and then I texted you: yeah, I had it, but paypal snafu, I lost it. So then I was like really happy and excited, and then now I’m, yes, mad and angry and sad, and so you had one hump of that. Well,

[01:25:47] This was my second hump. So I was happy, sad, happy, sad, and I was about the same feelings as you had. And then it hit me I was like, well, if he lost it, I wonder if any are coming back right. So I hit the refresh button, like I got back into the app and hit the refresh button and still said sold out. I did it again sold out. Did it again sold out. And I’m like this is stupid. I just time to give up. Did it again sold out after my fifth time. One became available, that is so. And I was like, and it was crater, oh hold.

[01:26:20] On. So I clicked through and I learned from your mistake. Well, not even mistake, but you don’t learn from your snafu. Yeah, as I went through and did all the stuff that got to the pay part, it had the credit card information right there for me to input. Yeah, so I was like I’m not doing paypal. That was an option, but I was like I’m not, I’m scared of that. Yeah, so I put the credit card information and stuff in and got that all taken care of, click through and then the only message you get is success, thank you for your payment, or something like that. And so even then, I’m like: did I really get it? Don’t believe this.

[01:26:54] Like: is this, is this going to come back and say, oh, I’m sorry, it didn’t, didn’t go through or something like that. So I told you I went on there. I was like I think I got one. It says I did, but I don’t have any emails or anything saying hey, you did. And it took probably five to ten minutes. And then that email came through from eventbrite with all the stuff. It gave me my actual qr code for going there, all the information on it said you got it, gave us our number. So we are lot number 10 in the crater.

[01:27:25] Yeah, so we have our own spot. Yeah, premium camping: yep, we’re taking an actual rv this year, so, excited about that, I get to sleep in a bed the whole way there.

[01:27:40] Yeah, but no, I mean like seriously that the emotional roller coaster that we went through that day was enough to. I mean like I almost shed an actual tear just from the disappointment yeah that had. Oh my gosh, I was so angry, like oh angry, and then I didn’t tell you that it all worked out in the end. But that night at like 10 o’clock at night, I’m in bed and email comes through and I looked at it- something from triple tree- and said something about your premium spot. I was like

[01:28:17] Okay, so that means I really did get one. I’m getting that. So I opened up and I look and congratulations on getting your spot. Blah, blah, blah, we see you’re not registered as a pilot. If you don’t register by thursday, we may have to release this spot to other people. To be fair, I’m like, did I not? Like I swear, I thought I registered. So I went back and found it and sent them an email back with the receipt of me registering and said: hey, here it is. Let’s not have any other snafus anything.

[01:28:47] To, yeah, to mess with me. And so then I sent it to him at like 10: 03 and I’m like I’m not going to be able to sleep tonight like this. Oh no, yeah, this is just going to be on my mind until they’re not going to reply, till tomorrow afternoon or something. And like two minutes later I got a response from him saying hey, thank you, we’re sorry, we’re glad you keep better records than we do, or something like that. Oh, and I was like, oh good, they’re in a good mood about it. There was nothing, we’re joking around, we’re happy. So, yes, it is now. Yeah, I’m glad you didn’t tell me that, because

[01:29:20] Because then I would have been like fast but did I register, like I like because I kind of went through the same thing when I registered they, and then they send you like, yeah, well, I know.

[01:29:30] They send you the actual paper to hey register after you’ve read, after you’ve registered, which threw me for a loop. But then I did like. I did ask them. I said, since I paid for the dry camping, do I get a refund on that? And they said, absolutely, we’ll do that automatically for you, don’t have to worry about doing anything. It’ll be two or three days, you’ll get it back. Cool, so that’s, everything is settled, we’re all good and not only breathe. Yeah, not only are we good for this year, forever we’re good until we say we’re not wanting to do it, yeah. I wonder though:

[01:30:04] Like, if you opt out, let’s say we don’t go next year for whatever reason, don’t crazy. Let’s not say that, if you opt out, if you are then required to go back, oh, absolutely, yeah, okay, yeah, you lost your.

[01:30:16] Spot I figured yeah okay so we have to go every year otherwise we from now on face the emotional.

[01:30:22] Roller coaster that is trying to get a premium spot at journal yep no I plan on doing this until I am.

[01:30:28] Physically unable to right on. So that was nice fun. I’m happy it’s gonna be so much fun. I’m so looking forward to it. I mean, we haven’t been for like a year, so it’s time to go back. Yeah, right, I mean, can, yeah, no, say it? Can you compare it to anything else that we’ve been to that we’ve been to? No exactly. So I yeah, it’s no, it’s dave. I’m excited for you, I hope. I hope you have fun. I hope you like the only.

[01:31:02] Thing. Honestly, the thing that’s going to suck this year is we’re not going to be camped next to him, and that sucks how? Oh, maybe he doesn’t care that he doesn’t want to camp next. I don’t want to be near you guys. Well, fine, then I guess we’ll see him for five. Well, we’re not gonna be next to the rhode island guys either. I know the rhode island guys. Well, he will be able to then. Yeah, yeah, you can.

[01:31:23] He’ll be a mile away from us. I know it is a mile, that’s yeah, because you loved over, I know, or I did with the watch. Yeah, but it will, it will, it will be okay. Well, I actually think that, being more central, which I think crater is more central, crater is more north, like it’s going to be,

[01:31:45] I if, and once again their maps are not the most friendly. I went on and I looked on google earth down in there and from what I can tell this is pure speculation. But from what I can tell by looking at the map that they give, showing like the crater, which is a? U kind of formation, almost a half circle-

[01:32:11] And where they place it on the map. It looks like as you. Okay. So for people that have been to joe and all is, you’re standing at the main hangar, like where you have your dinners and stuff and you’re looking out to the lake. When you’re looking that way, right below you are rvs. That is a premium spot. I mean those. Those have electric and stuff. Farther forward, so farther down that road, it kind of curves around and then kind of makes a crater shape. That doesn’t look like it was all.

[01:32:48] Cleared out in the images from google, but I’m thinking that’s where this new, that’s where this new spot is going to be, which, if that’s the case, that puts us really close to the lake. Yeah, which is.

[01:32:59] Awesome because that’s where we’re going to hang out a lot and I consider that more kind of central because the 3d line, you, you, you go out of the lake, make a right and you go drive a mile away to the 3d line and then the electric line. You go out, make a right, you go quarter mile or so, half mile, whatever, and you’re at the, at the electric line, and then you drive out and go make a left and you go not even a quarter mile probably, and you’re at the main line. You go out, make a left and you go down the road three quarters of a mile, then you’re at the heli line, right. So I kind of feel like it’s.

[01:33:32] More central ish I mean I agree with you yeah it’s more north but yeah I feel like it’s sort of in.

[01:33:38] Between it’s going to be less driving for us. That’s what I was trying to get out. Sorry, yeah, when you say central, like in my mind, I’m physically going center, no, no way. Center of everything which is, but I would say that’s probably like the electric line of what the 3d electric line would probably be the most central. Yeah, to where it’s the equidistant from 3d, and this is not far on the road anyway from.

[01:34:01] Yeah so and to be honest I enjoyed flying on the float on the on the lake probably the most.

[01:34:07] So- and that’s the other thing- like I might have to find something else with floats, I need to find some floats for the beast. That’s not. Are you? That’s not serious? Are you? Are you serious? Yeah, you’re not serious, I am. Are you serious? Yeah, you’re not serious, are you? You’re like you’re seriously serious.

[01:34:27] Yes, I’m serious. Floats for the beast, yeah, wouldn’t that be cool, those big 120 inch, I think bush masters, those floats would probably work. No, no, I’m just trying to think, trying to figure out the hard points in the fuselage. For that I mean, yeah, it would require, it would require work. But

[01:34:48] Yeah I think I could make that work well you have less than two months maybe not this year.

[01:34:54] But yeah I’ll take the stick again of course because that’s the only thing I’ve got.

[01:34:58] On floats. So I mean I might have to buy something on floats or a float plane, like with the whole what I mean. But yeah, I don’t know, we got some disgusting to do now, but it seems like for us, joe knoll, everything is working out this year. Yeah, it’s going to be nice, it’s going to be.

[01:35:18] As I recall well better, depending on how they clear it out, there could potentially be a lot of shade back there where we’ll be camping could be, which I don’t. That would be nice. Really I don’t care.

[01:35:27] About shade. We got air conditioners- two of them on this one. Well, they don’t have to work as hard if it’s shaded, but we’re not paying for gas, true, yeah, we don’t have to worry about that. Yeah, I mean like honestly, and that’s one thing. Reggie said he’s like because I don’t know what. I told him we got the premium spot and he said something about: I don’t care what we have, as long as it’s not hot when I’m sleeping. I said that’s fair. Oh, it will absolutely not be hot while we’re sleeping, because I do not like hot, yeah, and you don’t either. So I prefer it to be cool when I’m sleeping, yeah, and so we’re.

[01:35:59] Gonna have that. Oh, we don’t have to go get gas at all. That’s to me that’s a big plus. The everyday leaving to go get gasoline and doing all that it was kind of a drag. It was the only negative, I think, on that whole experience and it wasn’t even a big negative, yeah, but now that we don’t have that,

[01:36:20] Negative yes you need to be thinking about the demo derby you need to you need to get your plan.

[01:36:27] Honestly, it’s probably going to be the, the umx consendo. It has proven itself. I mean, why not? It’s? It’s already taken out one airplane. If I tested blood, yeah, if it has it, yeah, it has a thirst for blood, so if I crash it, I can buy another one. Yeah, that’s I mean. To me that’s the important part, like I don’t care. Can I replace this? Yes, check so for something where I’m trying to crash it. Yes, I want. Replaceability is high on my list and it’s surprisingly maneuverable, so it’s a good.

[01:36:57] Airplane yeah it really is so that’s a good choice I’d say so yeah I still have to decide.

[01:37:04] You’ll figure something out. Oh yeah, at least I still have a wing I need to build. I gotta try and get that done first. I don’t think it’s going to happen, among other things, shush. Anyway, if I can get this stupid bathroom done, my time will open quite a bit and then you’ll get something done, maybe. So okay, so okay, that’s it for jonah. That’s jonah. We will probably talk about it next time again, and probably

[01:37:29] The time after and when we get back from jonah we’ll probably talk about it at least one or two.

[01:37:36] Episodes or well. So this is the build-up like this is getting excited. This is getting stuff ready. This is the planning stage where things are starting to move. When we get back, there’s going to be just disappointment that it’s over, oh yeah, and so we’ll probably talk about the wrap-up and oh, that was fine. But then it’s dead to me until we start planning for next year. It’s dead to me, it has to be and we’ll make next year even better. Dave, you’re gonna have to come back next year.

[01:38:08] We’ll see oh my god maybe not if you’re gonna be this way I don’t want you around me.

[01:38:12] Just I’ve actually considered backing out yeah really yeah why we’ll talk later okay.

[01:38:20] Just so I thought the same thing last year probably for different reasons but yeah probably.

[01:38:26] Yeah, I don’t know his. You were, you were, you were nervous because you didn’t. It was something new and so far away, far away, and you’d have to talk to people and that’s why you didn’t want to go.

[01:38:38] It was just a lot, yeah, but now I’m, I’m in, in like flint, I’m ready, okay, all right, are we done? Oh gosh, that was a long time. Yep, I miss it. It is late, late. We’ve been here long enough. My stump went to sleep, your stump, oh. Is that why you’re sitting back like that? Yeah, ah, okay. Well then, let’s let dave’s stump regain consciousness and let’s get off here. Gentlemen, are you ready? Yeah, I’m ready, I’m good, all right. Well, thank you for listening. Until next time. I am Ron, I’m Tom and I’m dave. Good night, good.

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