Ep 155: Ron and Reggie

[00:00:06] Hello everyone I’m Reggie for the rc plane led podcast.

[00:00:16] That’s a little out of order. Yeah, I’m a little nervous. Oh, don’t be nervous. It’s literally just two dudes sitting in the basement talking into microphones, six feet away from each other.

[00:00:30] Try again have at it hello everyone and welcome to the rc plane led podcast and.

[00:00:36] I am Reggie, I’m Ron, and how are you doing? I’m fine. We are a little lonely tonight, and I say tonight because it’s actually the latest we have ever recorded an episode of the podcast. It’s been a very long day. I feel bad for you. I really do. I appreciate you doing this. So tommy is still out of town. He will be back at the end, actually the day this goes live. He’s supposed to be back in town, but he’s busy this weekend, which takes us into next weekend of the dayton.

[00:01:08] Model rama swap meet, so it’s going to be busy coming up. So we got back from toledo a couple weeks ago and the last weekend was the eli field swap meet. We’re going to talk about all of that next episode, including dayton. And did you make it to toledo? I did not. I tried, did you? I did you.

[00:01:38] Should have tried harder I was even supposed to have gotten like grand boys that fail through it.

[00:01:43] Just it was one snowball behind the other so well that’s okay we can look forward to other things.

[00:01:50] Coming up I’m hoping I’m hoping it’s just one behind another so far well that you need a vacation.

[00:01:59] That’s coming and that will be coming up soon through the 18th -huh. Before we talk about that, though, because I do want to get into what you’re bringing, what your expectations are, what you’re excited for, what you’re not excited for, what not with- yes, I will say it, joe knoll.

[00:02:17] First off, we haven’t had you on for a while, would you believe? By the way, would you believe that we had? Okay, so we have the listener survey that we came out with at the beginning of the year, the new one, would you believe? Under ideas for shows, the biggest recommendation I would say is to have Reggie on more often. No, I wouldn’t believe it. I wouldn’t either, hadn’t I?

[00:02:48] Seen it with my own eyes, wow, but that you are very for some reason. Well, not for some reason. Well, yeah, whatever, you were very wanted on here, so we needed to fill our episode and I thought this is the perfect time. I appreciate that, thank you. No, I’ve been wanting to do this for a while because, like I said, we have had a lot of people say that they enjoyed listening to your stories of

[00:03:14] Crashing, I think, is probably one of the biggest things, which I’m hoping we have some new ones to hear about. Oh, I do, I do I. You never disappoint I, I get frowned upon for where I was flying.

[00:03:27] At all the time, especially when I was on the road. Oh like, yeah, previously, so my crashes have been pretty limited. Yeah, nothing spectacular. No jack-in-the-box signs off, no jack-in-the-boxes. No cars. No walmart parking lots- none of that. I’m proud of you. That’s good. I’ve changed, I’ve grown over.

[00:03:46] The years being a good steward for the hobby, something like that. Yeah, oh, anyway. So let’s start off with new planes. What have you gotten since last we spoke? Because, oh man, you were not supposed.

[00:04:00] To buy anything, true, but joe knoll had, I had such a gap for something to take and, of course, the whole pond thing as far as flying off water, I definitely want to try. Yeah, david wild, back it gave me some floats for my carbon z cub. Somehow or another, I bought some parts for my carbon z cub and ended up with floats for the flex innovation cub, which made no sense to me. It’s like they had put carbon z parts in one box- I think it was a fuse- and they attached flex innovation floats to that same.

[00:04:36] Box. So where did you get this when- oh what the heck is that place name? It was a hobby shop we had here in town, adventure, or the one after that, falcon, falcon, falcon, and they, they went. Before they went out of business they had a bunch of stuff put together selling. So this is years ago, years ago.

[00:04:57] Okay I thought you meant you picked it up just for joe knoll well no not this one I had.

[00:05:03] I’ve been wanting the floats for a while and dave seemed to have floats for that plane and I think I traded them- the flex innovation floats for those floats or give them to somebody else, but I’ve never put them on the cub. That’s something I just don’t want to do, but now that we’re going to that it’s going to be set up for that. Okay, I bought a twin timber when I bought that. I bought

[00:05:23] Floats for it. So it’s very ironic, by the way, that you bought a twin timber when I just sold one at the swap meet last week, two weeks ago, whatever it was. Now, yeah, it’s like our paths just didn’t quite cross. I didn’t know you had one. Really I don’t think. So, oh, I bought it. Well, the first time I saw one in person was at joan all last year. I really liked them so I ordered it and I want to say I probably flew it maybe 10 ish times right and just

[00:06:00] So here’s the thing, okay, honestly, here’s why I got rid of it, and this is the only reason. Flies great, like the way it looks. It’s a fun little airplane. It did have a little tendency to nose over if you’re not very careful on landings, but I can deal with that. Storage, though, is what got to me. The wings with the big nacelles and the three baited or three bladed props just made it take up more space than I was willing to give up for a plane like that. Does that make sense? Yes, yes, I’m.

[00:06:32] I’ve been saying for years: I’m out of room and I got rid of quite a few in order to get some new stuff. And even with a lot of stuff gone, it’s still. I got to be careful when I walk in the plane room or I’m going to clip something. Yeah, porsche, like the, oh, the e-flight viper 90. I walked in, turned around, didn’t realize I was close enough to it. I caught the, the rudder on it with my leg snapped right off. Oh, yeah, it’s. There’s been several little accidents like that, it’s just.

[00:07:03] Hanger rash- oh my god, it’s annoying, it’s very annoying. Yeah, as opposed to crashing while you fly, which that, to me, is better than hanger rash, because it was at least doing its intended purpose.

[00:07:13] Exactly you. You felt something before it went down, versus just bumping it and you idiot. Great. But see, I got a turbo twin timber. I got a the d the beechcraft d18, which I think I might.

[00:07:30] Have mentioned that a while back. No, I think not on here. I think you’ve bought that since last time you were on. You only got that a couple months ago. I thought it’s been at least four or five, I think, somewhere in there. Oh, okay, I can’t think what else I’ve gotten so far. Oh, I got the.

[00:07:49] Of course, remember the p47, which I’m still waiting on a hinge for that. I mean, it flew great. It was just in the landed, I didn’t realize there was a rut there and took out a landing gear. So which one was that? Tell us that story. That was the big, 20 size hanger 9 p47, 20 size, you mean 20 cc size. Okay, and it flew great. I mean, I had a ball. I got one flight out of it and landed and realized there was a

[00:08:19] Rut toward the end of the where my landing area was and sure enough bounced it and I watched that.

[00:08:25] Gear kick out oh out of the field at the church field yes I know out of the field like where you’re.

[00:08:30] Supposed to be flying the actual like flying field. I think that feels even rougher yet. So, yeah, no, I went to the church field. It was: hey, everything’s down. They’ve cleared it out, I don’t know- gold poles or.

[00:08:42] Nothing anymore it’s it’s just wide open now really yep because you took them out or what I don’t know.

[00:08:47] I think the church like that guy’s a really good flyer, so maybe we should just move some of this stuff out the way for him, or let’s move it out of the way, just in case insurance doesn’t cover that. Yeah, I got it, but no, it was. It was a good flight. I’m still waiting on a hinge for it, but everything, I think I’ve got everything else for it, so it’s just a matter of getting everything swapped over now.

[00:09:07] Oh, what the heck else did I have unbeknownst to you? Oh no, I’ve also picked up a hanger, 9, 20 cc. They call them bravada, brave. You guys had one, you and tommy had one- the pawnee, whatever it was. You got one of those. Yep, it was a good deal. I couldn’t pass it. How, how? You didn’t know this. No, I, I didn’t know that. There’s also now I’m not for sure the size, yet I would be willing to guess.

[00:09:39] It’s about an 84 inches, maybe a little more. I think it’s a 50 cc edge 260. No, extra, extra, 260, extra would be 260. Yeah, seriously 50 cc. I think it’s 50 cc. I’m not 100 for sure yet.

[00:09:55] That well 84 87 inch wingspan ish would fit with that’s what it sounds like.

[00:10:01] And last but not least- well, not last, and probably not least- I just told you about the falker wolf 190. I believe it looks just like the one you got out there, but it’s also balsa wood -huh, I have no idea what size, because I know it’s electric, but I don’t know what size motor is on that, like roughly wingspan size. What are you?

[00:10:21] Talking because I think the one I have is oh so it’s good size. It’s about the same size that pre p47. So because the fw 190 I have is the old, I think it’s park zone and I just I’ve been going back, especially with it being swap meat season. I have been going back and forth on getting rid of that one or not, because I don’t have batteries for it. I don’t want to buy one battery for one plane. I.

[00:10:51] Have a big problem doing that you sold me on the smart charger one battery is nothing for that charger.

[00:10:57] No, no, I get it like time wise and all that stuff. What I’m saying is: I don’t want to have one airplane, yeah, with one battery only. No, you’re gonna get that. I meant I said that backwards. I don’t want to have one battery, that’s only good for one airplane. You’re gonna get that. I mean, you’re gonna eventually hit that somewhere at some point, I guess I don’t know. But that just, and not knowing how well it flies, not knowing if I like it, not know, there’s a lot of unknowns that I don’t necessarily want to.

[00:11:26] Spend have you flown that at all no I don’t have a battery for it what size or what connector is on.

[00:11:33] That I don’t even remember, because if it’s an ec3 I may have one. I think it’s an ec3 I could be wrong. Well, no, it would have been an ec3 because, yes, it’s an ec3, because I bound it and I made sure everything worked using a smart 3s- yeah, 3s 2200, which has the, the ic3 on it. So it plugged right into the ec and you’re positive that won’t fit down in there? No, no, so that’s the weird thing about that airplane. So

[00:12:05] I’ve not had one to where the battery goes vertical right behind the motor. So it’s right behind the firewall. There’s a slot that it has to go down in. The 2200s are too long for the hatch to clip onto. I could kind of make it work if I put it horizontal down at an angle. But that’s real, I mean it’s. It’s not secure that way. That’s not how it’s supposed to be, so I don’t even want to try it.

[00:12:32] Do you have any of those universal connectors? You can put a different style, 1800 in there. As far as still being a three cell or so, you take it to an ec3 to like a dean’s or something. I mean I can make one if I need to. Do you have a battery? I think I do. I might have to. I don’t have to go through it.

[00:12:49] But I think I do. Yeah, if you think about it, look for it and let me know. I might try and fly that sometime, all right, and then I’ll know if I want to buy a battery for it or not. Either crash it and don’t buy a battery, or like it and buy a battery, or fly it. Don’t like it and get rid of it. But, like I said, just that whole battery thing made me that was one that I was very close to taking to the swap piece to get rid of. So yeah, I cannot think of what else I’ve gotten. That’s sad. It is that actually that means you have way too many. Probably did you get the jet.

[00:13:24] I have gone back and forth I’ve talked to nick I’ve talked to joe and I’ve talked to mike.

[00:13:32] Horizon hobby reps you don’t need to talk to people you just order it that’s all I did the.

[00:13:36] Thing is, I’m waiting to order because we’re probably coming out with a new library and that’s all I’m waiting on now, and they said there’s gonna be an announcement here soon, and that’s the only. I’ve already got everything lined up. I’m just gonna do this all in one shot, get everything I need, but I don’t want to do it until that library comes out, which should be any time between now and

[00:13:58] And after the jet meet may 5th I thought what he told me well that’s pretty close when’s the jet.

[00:14:05] Meets in june. Isn’t it june or july? No, it’s august, you’re august, you’ve got some time. Tommy’s all fired up. He’s like just say when you got it, tommy’s ready to get his own. Did he make his mind up on the I the bronco versus that? Yeah, I think he’s leaning towards.

[00:14:22] The jet now, which- I don’t blame him, bronco’s gonna be expensive. Bronco is going to be pricier than the jet. Which seven batteries, or something like that, didn’t it yeah? Yeah, four of them six cell. It would take seven batteries. The rest of them are two cells. So yeah, four, six cell, five or

[00:14:40] Six thousand packs probably five I think is what they were and their thing was two.

[00:14:46] Receiver batteries and one retract battery. So that means not only lots of batteries but lots of chargers, which you have at least two. You have two of the smart charger 2200. Yeah, and I just

[00:15:02] Required another one got a smart six cell pack as well that’s one thing I’m I think I’m light on I need.

[00:15:08] To get another charger, although I really haven’t run into an issue where I needed to charge more than two at a time, but I know that’s going to be coming up soon. Well, when I go out, of course, I like that.

[00:15:22] On discord. I took out the extra 300 and the extra 330. I took out I believe it was six, six cell packs. So versus me just shoving them on the other charges that take forever in a day to do one of them. I think on both the smart chargers they balanced out the amperage, at least the new one did. It went eight and a half on one, eight and a half on the other, but on the older charger that I’ve actually updated, if I was actually programmed to like for, say, 16 amps for both batteries, one battery.

[00:15:58] Would do 16 amps. The other battery would be like I don’t know two point something or whatever amps, and once the first battery would finish off, the another one would just automatically go to the 16 amps and just start going at it. Really, yep, that’s strange program, that’s. They downloaded it to it, or I don’t.

[00:16:13] Know what it why it started doing that. So you’re talking about the s2200s, the dual smart chargers, the expensive ones. Yes, you have two of them: the older one charges haphazardly, okay, and then the other one’s.

[00:16:30] Okay because the one I have does it evenly well if I was a program both for 16 amps they would just.

[00:16:37] Drop down to eight and a half on both sides we can put more than 16 in at a time I think that.

[00:16:42] Charged up to 20 amps I get a little sketchy but doing any higher than that for those size batteries.

[00:16:47] It just I don’t know feel a little nervous there I get it but I like being able to charge a battery in.

[00:16:52] 20 Minutes. I live in an apartment if something goes wrong, true, so I’m a little leery. Yeah, and that’s all batteries in there, all planes. I think I get rid of all the fuel, since I’ve only got one.

[00:17:03] Nitro plane now but that’s a lot of stuff in there so down to one nitro plane just one any gas.

[00:17:11] Yes box still in that. What the hell that great plains sparrowhawk, I think it was. Oh yeah, I still want that one. I’d be almost tempted to make a deal for it. Really, that sea wind over there? No, I just got.

[00:17:28] That I’d be almost able to make a deal for that just to get it out of the house the only reason.

[00:17:32] Why I bought it, because I was going to take the motor off of it, and then it’s like you didn’t think flies, so why not? And like, have you flown it though? Yeah, about three or four times. Do you like the way?

[00:17:41] It flies oh it did so this is what is that the sparrowhawk but that’s the old phoenix models yes or no.

[00:17:48] Or do you even know I thought it was great plains is it still phoenix it’s not great plains they found it.

[00:17:54] Most, most positive. It was great plains. I don’t think it was great plains, because I was actually the one that found it. Maybe it was dave, whatever. Going through a catalog that came with an airplane I bought, I want to say that was phoenix. I’m trying to remember what airplane that was, because it was. It was an rf. It was an older one, yep, 20 cc motor on it. No, no, I mean the one that I had. It was an older rf box, like I had bought the rf. I don’t remember what it was, though, and I opened it up and it had the old catalog and stuff and they always used to put in. I’m pretty sure it was phoenix.

[00:18:27] This is when we need or need dave or tommy, because they’re good with remembering that kind of stuff. Definitely history buffs, yeah, but I don’t remember what it was, but anyway. So, yeah, that might be something I would be willing to consider. The same thing, though: just a lot of room.

[00:18:42] Well, I mean, you take the wing off, you’re fine, but it’s a one-piece wing or two-piece. One piece batteries were up in the nose and I did put two new batteries up there.

[00:18:54] But that’s a sato four-stroke gas right like gasoline I believe so I believe so.

[00:19:04] So it’s 20 cc and the motor was brand new on it when I got it and they don’t think it had been flown.

[00:19:12] So yeah but is that the one that had the mouse holes in the wing no that was a that was the.

[00:19:17] Glider or sailplane whatever so is that was the one that had the dog food and wings dog food.

[00:19:22] In the okay I knew there was something weird dave had to take yeah some little kid just got to.

[00:19:27] Popping them in there and it took me forever to shake that crap out of that are you sure that’s.

[00:19:30] What it was and not like a mouse. Oh no, that was dog food. It was all dog food. I mean, it wasn’t a mouse carrying it in. Like you said, some little kid, how do? It was a kid. That, that’s what I was.

[00:19:39] Told from you guys sold it to me. Well, of course he’s gonna lie about the wing was up against the wall. Some little kid was in there just dropping food down in the holes. That was it, but like no.

[00:19:50] Mouse droppings or proof. Okay, unless he covered over it, I didn’t see anything. I didn’t see nothing but dog food come out of that. Oh, that’s the case. I might be a little bit more interested in it. Oh, you can look at it if you want to see it. It’s not going to be one of my new airplanes though.

[00:20:06] No it’s your style though you seem to like that no I mean I’m not going to trade you one of my.

[00:20:10] New airplanes for it. No, we’re going to have to figure something anyway. Yeah, whatever, I’m in the rush, it’s just sitting on the wall. Yeah, I have. Yes, I have got to do a better job of getting rid of.

[00:20:25] Airplanes. I got rid of a bunch in one shot and it was actually kind of relieving. But I’ve been wanting to take something off the loft from up there, yeah, and started on it. I actually started on the ventique from flex innovations and I had to call tommy. I screwed up, I was doing- I don’t remember what the hell I was doing, but I was always putting it together. Everything was going fine. There’s an actual c-shaped rod that goes into the elevator back here at the rudder step. So before you glue that on you,

[00:20:59] Need to shove this rod in there and pull it back and then you glue your rudder into place, because the rudder goes on. The elevator slides in. Just before it wasn’t paying attention, I got distracted. I glued that elevator stab right on in there and looked over at the floor to see that little c-shaped.

[00:21:17] Delay on the floor so I’m assuming that’s the piece that holds the elevators together each side oh.

[00:21:25] Tommy told me how to fix it. I was so discouraged, I was dude, I was mad. Read the manual, read it, read it and then follow it multiple times. I got distracted and, sure enough, left it on the floor. I was hot, I bet. Tommy told me just walk away. I walked, I walked out of the house, I hopped in the car, I drove down. I was mad. I had to calm down for a little bit. But I think I can fix it. So, oh, yeah you.

[00:21:53] Haven’t fixed it yet no so that just happened recently that was last weekend I believe or the.

[00:21:58] Weekend before last. Yes, I didn’t hear about that one. So that’s sometimes. You got to be quiet about things, Ron, because you get to talking too much. Then that gets elevated. I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m sure you don’t. That’s funny. So it’s still in the living room. I actually had to redo the living room and the dining room because I had so many playing parts everywhere.

[00:22:20] Once. I see I screwed that up. I actually went over to the b25 mitchell and put it together, so it’s all done. And as we was talking about the little oopsie thing, I didn’t remember what I was doing. But oh, I retched around the b25 for something, caught my sleeve on one of the doors for the nose gear right off, right off. I haven’t even got it out of the living room, I had to buy a door for it.

[00:22:52] Brand new brand spanking new door so obviously a new door but brand new airplane like have you.

[00:22:57] Flown it before. No, never, I literally just put it together. Oh, it has not left the living room until after I broke the door and I probably put in the playing room. So, oh my god, I was just not having no luck. I mean literally, when I said I drove away, I drove, oh, I was on the other side of town, I was almost.

[00:23:12] Over here somewhere I was so mad, so you’re. You’re talking about a lot of new airplanes. Like you’ve gotten a few. For a guy that said I’m not buying anything until I get my jet, you have gotten a lot.

[00:23:25] Of airplanes. Well, sometimes you just kind of get that little spur thing going and you just you want to stop and you just can’t because there’s another new plane. Oh, I’ve been wanting this plane for a.

[00:23:35] While oh this is the price now like oh okay he roads away at the jet money though.

[00:23:44] No I’ve got that situated it’s all good to go on that so you got everything figured out then you’ve.

[00:23:50] Got jet cost? Mm-hmm. You’ve got your fuel jug? Not yet, okay. That’s the one thing I haven’t got. How about a fire extinguisher? Not yet okay. Well, just those two things. For what? I? About 600 bucks of what you paid, well, not quite, but yeah, close but not quite. But yeah, you can have made it wrong. We’re just you and me go ahead. No, it was, I don’t think it was quite six, but it was pretty close, because the gas jug was about 300 for what you told me, remember, and I think the other one, I think, yeah, I think you’re.

[00:24:25] Right because I bought the jersey modeler five gallon diesel can with a nice pump I might just.

[00:24:32] Come to you for fuel just pay you for fuel and just keep the jug right there I don’t think that’s.

[00:24:38] How it works, but anyway, and then you need the, you have to have your own fire extinguisher and I’d have to look at my because I have a chart of everything I spent. I want to say that was a couple on her bucks, so I want to say it was around five for both of those. I mean it’s coming. I know august. August is going to be here before it. Are you going to have time to get it? To get it delivered? I should. To get it put together? I’ve got

[00:25:12] Word. Both guys are all three guys here. As soon as you guys know, let me know and I’ll pull over and we’ll start this whole process so I can get this done. What whole process. You just click a button and say: buy, now I want to be for sure I got everything that I need. Well, you’re not going to outside of.

[00:25:30] The fire extinguisher and the fuel I mean you still want. You’re going to have to order your uat. There’s a couple other things that didn’t come with it that I had to get. I don’t know what it was.

[00:25:39] That’s what I’m saying, that they still come through horizon, does it not? Well, I bought mine through there. Yeah, so the uat is that little tank that gets all the air, the fuel, whatever.

[00:25:49] I don’t know what the? U is. I think universal or something, but air trap, okay. Universal doesn’t sound right. Though this, what do you call it? The synopsis receiver, the synapse? Yeah, is it synopsis, synapse, synapse, thank you. Synopsis is what you get when you read a book, at the end of it. Close enough what I meant. Big difference in price too. That I would hope that’s another.

[00:26:14] What are those 500 bucks? Yeah, for what? What is it? The 20 channel? Mm-hmm, was that just receiver? Is the synopsis also something else too? Is there something separate?

[00:26:28] Well the synapse is its own unit I haven’t showed you the one in the jet yet I don’t think so I mean.

[00:26:32] When we walk out, I can. So that’s part of the receiver, or is that something separate from the receiver? So it’s? I don’t understand the question. I mean, like it’s well, I thought the new receiver.

[00:26:43] Is supposed to have this synopsis built within synapse is not built into it but it connects to.

[00:26:48] It via a wire okay see because what he was explaining to me I thought it was one unit.

[00:26:54] I mean it comes together like you’re ordering just the ar 2410t or whatever that’s called, and that comes with the synapse gyro, all right, which is actually. I mean, it’s an updated version of as 3000 that you used to be able to get. That’s been discontinued. I actually think the model number on it’s as 6000. Now I could be wrong, but it only works with this receiver because the way joe’s told me about this, it

[00:27:22] You don’t have to set nothing up. It’s literally plug and play and you’re done. It’s already. I mean, all the settings in the receiver are set. That works perfect for this jet close. You still have to do a little.

[00:27:35] Bit of programming on it, but it’s less than five minutes. Okay, there’s your initial setup when you, when you have to go through with your, with your transmitter, and it’s all done through forward programming. It’s really easy. That’s good. But there are things that I still need to find out about that. I’m not 100 sure how it works yet. There’s something weird with the front wheel steering to where you can, I think you can take the gyro off of that, or you can have that also controlled by the gyro, or there’s also something where I think, as soon as you hit- I’m trying to think what it is, I think.

[00:28:13] You can. You can program it to where, as soon as you hit the gear up button, it centers that gear and ignores the input to it, so you’re not turning the wheel as it goes into the airplane. Does that make sense? Yeah, I see what you’re saying, but I have to- I have to do a lot of reading on that. First, because I know I’m just kind of talking out of my butt because I don’t have that down yet, because I

[00:28:35] Haven’t dealt with it but stopping is for the wheel to actually turn as it’s trying to go up.

[00:28:39] And possibly binding up into the fuse and same with going down like it will not start to turn that.

[00:28:47] Wheel until the rudder and the wheel are moving simultaneously they’re.

[00:28:53] Okay, yeah, same thing. So it just turns that off. I thought there was normally enough clearance in the wheel. Well, for that anyway. No, a lot of airplanes don’t have enough clearance. A couple of the other.

[00:29:05] Ones I have with three tracks don’t? Hmm, that would suck. Yeah, I should burn up a retract trying to come in for landing. Now you have no nose gear. Oh, that would really suck a lot of. Yeah, it would.

[00:29:19] But anyway so you’re all ready for all that you’re ready to pull the trigger I’m making sure the list.

[00:29:24] Is everything I need so I can just get it all in one hit and be done so what’s going to be.

[00:29:29] Included so you could order all the other stuff now. You could get your receiver, you get your batteries ordered, you can get all of that stuff taken care of now. Then you don’t have to worry about all the extra stuff, because I don’t think they’re going to change what comes with it. No, no, it’s just literally.

[00:29:46] I was hoping to do this all in one buy, one purchase and just be done with it. That’s what I was trying to do. Why just it felt better that way? So I know I got the whole pit and caboodle done, but

[00:29:57] Then you see the big number and it hurts more. It’s gonna hurt regardless what I do. If it’s one like transaction with a huge number, I don’t like that as much as four or five. They’re a little bit smaller.

[00:30:08] It doesn’t feel as bad. No, really, I have to feel it one way the other. So this is something I’m it’s gonna be my spin of the year. I’m kind of hoping that this. I would like for this to be the last plane of the year that I buy. Oh, you, I’m, that’s what I’m hoping it’s not gonna happen. The carbon z cub, the, the, the, not cub, but the t28 I’m kind of teetering on, but I’m hoping this one here will be.

[00:30:33] My last one of the year. You mean the big one, the yellow one. Yep, I want that really. I do. That does nothing for me, I don’t know one. No, I don’t like the looks of them, though, because it’s yellow. No, I just don’t like the shape of the t28s. I just I never have. I don’t know what it is, I was so.

[00:30:51] Impressed with the park zone t28. Once this one here came out, I had to have it and I finally got a hold of one. Actually, there was one sitting in hobby mart forever. That was the one I bought and now it’s the one dave has. Oh, the one he repainted, yeah, okay, I can’t remember that guy’s name, but he just kept making offers, always at the field. One day and I was like no, and tommy was working on it at the time, if I came over, made another offer. I was like okay, so hold on. What? So? The? The guy that owned

[00:31:24] It was at the field, yeah, and then he, I think he gave it or sold it to dave. What’s hobby mart? Hobby mart, the place that burned down over in dark from some barkway adventure- hobbies- no, that’s, that was jason’s place. Hobby mart was the one that was also.

[00:31:40] Falcon hobby, a falcon okay, when they moved from I guess I remember that. I remember the dirksen, but I don’t know why I thought it was still falcon over there. That was hobby mart okay, it was real big with the online stuff over there. Yeah, I remember they did a lot of the ebay stuff. Yeah, that’s what it.

[00:31:56] Was before anyway. So he had it and I bought it from them. I flew it for a while. I had it feel I was having an issue with the flaps. I don’t remember what it was, but tommy jumped in there and we started fixing it. Next thing, friend of dave’s came over and made me two or three offers and I finally jumped on one offer until tommy stopped what he was doing. Yeah, right on the spot. Well then, how did it end up with dave? I don’t remember what happened to that guy. I think he had some kind.

[00:32:27] Of medical issue or something I know he moved to florida and dave ended up somehow oh I know.

[00:32:32] What you’re talking about? Okay, was his name ed? I think I think so. So, huh, he’s had it ever since dave’s had it. Dave, dave. Sorry, you’re confusing me. So I’m confusing me. I know. It’s like I said, it’s been a long day. This is late. It’s I’m gonna sound bad because it’s not late to many people.

[00:32:52] But it’s going on 10 p.M I’ve done 750 some miles today have you really yeah that might not include.

[00:32:59] Coming here. So, oh my gosh. So because of the time, that’s why it’s just you and I, dave had to bow out because he has to be at work bright and early tomorrow, which, by the way, you and I also have to be at work bright and early tomorrow. So just saying, I looked up, my trailer, got loaded for me.

[00:33:16] Today so instead of having to be somewhere at seven in the morning I can probably leave a little later.

[00:33:20] Now, oh well, I still have to be at work at seven, so nice, yeah, not for you, it’ll be just fine. So 750 miles today, what is also 750 ish miles, joe? No, I think it’s like 738 from here is what I. I’ve already driven that today, so exactly, so that’s nothing for you. No, so like the drive.

[00:33:47] Really doesn’t bother you at all. No, no, man, see, as long as I get something to do like listen to radio or somebody talk to you, whatever on the phone, whatever, I’m good. I wish I had that ability.

[00:34:00] Like the I just I don’t know I cannot I don’t like driving that long well if I understood right.

[00:34:07] We’re leaving at night, right, or at least toward evening. That’s the plan. That’s gonna suck, so I’ll probably take a nap during the day, unless one of you guys want to stay up and talk to me all night.

[00:34:17] That’s perfectly fine. I kind of thought tommy was planning on doing that. Yeah, stop and get coffee somewhere along the way, it’d be fine. I am tapping out and I will tell you I am sleeping. I’m sure you.

[00:34:28] Will be I plan on that wholeheartedly I’m pretty sure we won’t even be back to the interstate you’ll.

[00:34:32] Probably be asleep. No, no, no, no. So I will probably wake up when we stop and get fuel, because it’s going to be a multi, I think probably a two stop right before we get there, because it’s one seat. Dave’s following us too, so I don’t know exactly how far he gets on a tank or how often he likes to stop. Yeah, so we’ll see. We’re going to caravan together, okay, so I didn’t know that. Yeah, okay, so I let’s talk joan all now, then we’ll move on. I’m excited about this. I know we have tried not to talk much about.

[00:35:07] It but because of the timing of this episode we are very close very close to leaving for joan all.

[00:35:15] After listening to you guys from last year our friends from the other podcast there.

[00:35:22] Which are not going, by the way. They’re not going. They’re not going this year. Oh crap, they heard you were coming and don’t go there. Don’t go there, no, but they’re not coming this year.

[00:35:31] After listening to both podcasts, I can just envision this, watching some videos here and now for youtube, and just I’m ready, I’m so ready to go, even just to walk around the place to see everything, and, of course, there’s probably gonna be tens of thousands of planes there. Yeah, I’m, I’m ready to see everything. Would you say that much or not? That much, not that much? Okay, you say a few.

[00:35:53] Thousand. There’s thousands, I would say, but I’m not gonna say tens of thousands. You never know. That’s how many people were there last year, I don’t know. I mean, like I think last I saw they had 550 registered pilots. That’s all, that’s a lot. I think it’d be way more than that really.

[00:36:15] Yeah, from the size of this place. It’s still early, but it was for the whole week- wow, I don’t think that’s bad at all. No, I’m not saying it’s bad, I just figured. It’s the size of the whole place.

[00:36:27] So there’s been quite a bit more than that. It’ll see, I’m trying to go through in my head where everything is and stuff there’s. I’m sure there’s going to be more as we get closer. Register for it, because five different fields or something there- oh, you’re gonna make me think now. So as you pull in, there’s a helicopter line that I think literally had one person at it. Well, let’s not count that. And then as you go down, you go by the main line and then a little farther down.

[00:37:04] Is the float line. Farther down yet is the electric- yeah, the electric- line. Then there’s the electric 3d line and then all the way down and around is the 3d line. I lost count because I lost fingers about.

[00:37:22] Five if we can count the rc point our helicopters you might say five and a half and then there’s.

[00:37:28] The control line circle and six and a half yeah so I mean it’s a good size I would think there’d be a.

[00:37:34] Lot of people a lot of well there are a lot of people not just spectators I’m talking about actual.

[00:37:38] Pilots? No, there are and, like I said, you’ll, you’ll see. It’s one of those things where it’s hard to describe- and I’ve said it before, unless you’ve been there and can experience the whole week. I’m going to experience the whole week, first round. I mean we will be there for a week straight. By the time we get there saturday morning, we’re not going to leave till the next saturday morning to saturday.

[00:38:00] Afternoon-ish I’m bringing both my spectrum chargers yeah I think I’m bringing all my six cell batteries.

[00:38:08] Why? Well, what are you bringing the fly? Because we, we actually have to be kind of careful on room, true, true. Not only do we have to carry the airplanes, we have to carry all of our clothes and toiletries and all that stuff for a week, food for a week, drinks for a week. It’s going to be, I mean it’s.

[00:38:32] Going to be packed we’re going to be in a camper and that’s going to have a refrigerator freezer very.

[00:38:37] Soon. Yes, yeah, I mean. So that part’s fine, but like I, I do not want to leave this year, like that was the one thing. As far as getting supplies or whatever, yeah, and maybe once is fine.

[00:38:51] Like I can see doing that I can I can run easily over to walmart or whoever and grab us groceries.

[00:38:56] Whatever, it’s no big deal to me. Well, I’m I’m just saying like that was one thing that kind of took away from last year. Was I going to get fuel every day? Yeah, that would, which, like I said, that it wasn’t a big like I might have been saying that’s a big negative, but that was one thing that was just every day you had to leave and that took 45 minutes to an hour by the time you got stuff loaded up, drove all the way out because, believe it or not, it takes a while to drive through that place.

[00:39:27] To get from where we were camped to the actual road. I can believe it. You drive slow, there’s a lot of traffic, it’s- oh, I mean, it’s what- a mile and a half or something like that each way, and then you have 10- 15 minute drive to get to the gas station. So it took a while. But, like I said, we don’t have that this year, so hopefully we can get away with not worrying about it. I actually was able to get a hold.

[00:39:53] Of a 13 000 watt generator. I want to trade with a guy brand new in a box and I was actually traded for what love points I points when I get fuel for my. All the time I didn’t know where you’re going with that. I was in points. Okay, loves points, as in loves truck stop, not love points, which is what you said.

[00:40:16] Here I was confused I was confused obviously huh anyway points a reward points card.

[00:40:23] When you get fuel I’ve got like a thousand points so I traded him for the generator and for a.

[00:40:29] Smoker for these points poker too yep so that’s I mean I was getting ready we’re getting off topic.

[00:40:38] Here. But what? What kind of smoker is it? It’s one of those five tier wood pellet, I believe? No, it’s not wood pellets, it’s a propane, but you put wood chips in the belly of it, yeah, and it’s such a.

[00:40:50] Pretty nice smoker, yeah, so see, I started with electric, didn’t like that, went to propane, like that a little bit more, but then finally got the wood pellets. Wood pellet, yeah, pellet, the pellet fired.

[00:41:01] Smoker and that’s so much nicer I would like to have one right now just this was in my face so I just.

[00:41:06] Grabbed it, yeah. What’s what’s nice about that is, as somebody that’s lazy like I am, you don’t have to worry about changing temperatures like you do with, like the big green egg or anything like the.

[00:41:16] One that you can put on your phone with the app and all that no that was my electric one had.

[00:41:21] That but I didn’t like that either it’s charbroil something or another but anyway off topic smokers.

[00:41:25] Are cool I like smoking stuff I’m gonna learn that’s my next project start learning that yeah it’s I mean.

[00:41:32] There’s not a lot to it oh it’s good to know then that’s good to know but back to topic I was ready.

[00:41:39] To go for the generator. Since we’re not going to need the generator now, I’m just going to give to my dad, but you might? I want to ask dave if he needs one. Okay, well, that’d be good to know, because I got to put it together and get ready to go and I don’t know anything about running them. So it’s.

[00:41:55] I assume just gasoline or propane oh okay has remote start and all that’s a nice one.

[00:42:02] That it’s really nice. He said he gave grand for it, so it’s gonna be. It’s gonna be a nice generator for one or the other once they had that power outage thing down in texas. That’s where my parents live at. I’ve been looking for generator for a while for them. I don’t blame me at all. This one here dropped in my lap, so it is what it is. Yeah, we’ll see. Like I said, I don’t remember if dave

[00:42:21] I don’t remember what they have, because I know daniel has one, but I don’t remember how big it is. So they might it’s worth a question. I mean it’s worth seeing. That’s good to go. I mean I at least see it.

[00:42:32] Running and make sure everything’s great on it, and once we’re done, it’s going to be hauled down to texas. Yeah, so that’s nice though, but as far as planes and everything, I’m planning on taking everything electric. I’m hoping to have at least two float planes, two, maybe three, I’m gonna say two.

[00:42:54] Still trying to decide if I’ll take my viper jet or not. But of course, like you said, we’re gonna have to be careful in the room and what we take and how it’s gonna get taken. And I’m still got my trailer situation as far as it’s gonna be daniel’s or my boss’s trailer, one or the other. I got a trailer on loan, yeah, and it’s a- I think it was a seven by 16 or something twin axle and I don’t think it’s a v nose, but it’s a pretty nice size trailer. It’s a good trailer.

[00:43:25] That’s that’s like said that camper is not rated to pull it a lot so that’s my only concern with it.

[00:43:30] I think camp will be fine. I’m almost positive that thing will be fine. I mean, I think it’s only rated for four or five thousand pounds. It reminds me as you as far as the ball hitch on that. Yeah, that’s the.

[00:43:40] Other thing that we need to figure out. I will have the camper a weekend beforehand out here. We’re gonna pull it out, so I can- I should have that trailer by then- get everything figured out too and I’ll bring it out here. We’ll figure it out. Okay, like I’m still I. Well, we’ll see which one we take. I don’t know yet. I’m just concerned about overdoing it with them. Like I said after seeing, because daniel pulled his down when we went to toledo, right, and that’s a good size. I mean, like I think we’ll be able to fit a decent amount of stuff in that. My golf cart is where I’m at with that, I know. But my issue is if

[00:44:15] We load it with too much more stuff we’re gonna go weighty pretty quickly would you say the pulling.

[00:44:22] Capacity was I think four or five thousand pounds I wouldn’t check on that I think it’s more than that.

[00:44:27] For that I don’t think so it’s only v10 and it’s a 35 or 36 foot camper so it’s not like.

[00:44:36] I mean it’s not overpowered or anything is dave pulling anything his camper oh that’s right yeah.

[00:44:44] Which they’ll be. I mean, there’s room in there, I guess, for airplanes too. If you need to throw some in there because they won’t be riding in it, they’ll just be pulling it. So what are we going to have?

[00:44:54] For a limit as far as bringing planes I mean just about four or five of them maybe and that’s about.

[00:44:57] It each. I mean there’s not going to be an actual limit, but it’s going to be what we can fit and what you want to take. I don’t I more than four or five I think would be just too much.

[00:45:07] Hassle. True, yeah, I’ll have to think through, then I’ll, just because I know I’m gonna bring the umx. Oh, what the hell with that little thing, a little flying wing things, all tricks. Yeah, I don’t really.

[00:45:18] Count that but I will be bringing that too because that takes no space of it all that’ll be in the.

[00:45:22] Drawer two float planes and maybe just I don’t know I can take the floats off either one of those.

[00:45:30] Two planes and just fly them as normal planes. So I don’t I mean like I don’t have a reason to fly off of any other line really, if I don’t want to. You just want to stay on the water. I’m fine with that. I really am like it’s that’s so laid back, it is and it’s it’s fun. Like I said, there’s plenty of other planes that I could take to fly, but I just- I don’t know, we’ll see. Plus, I do have the sea wind. That’s either, or. So that’s true. Maybe I’ll take off on one line and then land on the pond, or

[00:46:03] Something who knows that’s actually good to see that plane again I haven’t seen one since.

[00:46:09] The hobby store, and that was it. Well, that’s one. We’ll talk more about that one next week, because it was one of my finds at one of the swap meets. But one of the things I do think is neat about that I’ve never seen one like in person before. I’ve seen them online and all that stuff. What I think is neat, though, is when you put the gear up, the rudder comes down out of the tail. Really yeah.

[00:46:31] Well, it comes out automatically. That’s gonna be neat to fly. Yeah, I think so too. I really wish I would have bought one back then. I really do. Well, there’s, they have the updated.

[00:46:40] Version out now you still could and you’d have time before showing a play zone tower hobbies. They just came out with a version two, gosh, it’s been within the last two or three months. Maybe it’s red, not all red, but it’s got more red on it than that one does. You should do that and then

[00:46:59] We can fly them together. Let’s just see what happens here first. Let’s let’s see what happens first. Like I said, I’m still teetering. I got till the end of the month on the carbon zt28 for the 70 deal. Off is off of it that there is going to be about what? 300 Bucks or just under 300 for that.

[00:47:20] Yeah I would do that over the carbon yeah t28 is just a big airplane you’re gonna have to store.

[00:47:27] Yeah, when I got- sorry bear, I was actually working on it here last weekend and I had a gear door or something come up right on. So I replaced the gear doors and just as I’m getting ready to put it together and go fly it for that day free track went out. I think it was left. Free track decided to go out, so I quit, I was done, so I took what I had and we just went to church and went flying.

[00:47:54] I like that idea though you should buy one of those.

[00:47:58] I like the idea too but you just told me a minute ago stop buying planes well you’re buying that or.

[00:48:02] The t28 and, to be honest, I like that one better than t28. So am I buying this for you or for me? Well, for you, but that way we could both have them. We can do synchronized takeoff and landings on the pond. That just didn’t sound right. No, I mean, why not? Okay, hey, why is that you’re playing my plane? I said they’re different colors. The new one’s got a lot more red on it, all right. Well, have you seen the hatch on it, though? Like do how? No, I haven’t. Oh, remind me afterwards, I’ll show you. It’s really cool, because the canopy, yeah, flips up as in, like it’s still attached. Yes, it’s still attached.

[00:48:41] It’s hinged and then it has little things on the side that hold it up so it doesn’t come down on you little struts. And then you put your battery in and take your battery out, do whatever you need to do, and then the seat is magnetized. It comes out after you put your battery in, you put the seat back on top of it, then you just close your hatch and go fly. What size battery: 3s, 2200. Wow, perfect size.

[00:49:02] Battery oh yeah that’s a pusher too isn’t it no it’s a puller it’s a tractor it’s just got the.

[00:49:09] The really tall pod or whatever you call it. Yeah, you think you’re gonna fly at monticello when you get done. I mean that’ll fly off either field, but yeah, it’ll fly off of the grass at the local field. You think so. Oh yeah, yeah, they’re not huge wheels, but they’re big enough.

[00:49:31] Yeah, they’ve been working our field pretty good, I guess, so we’ll see. Yeah, I want to see that fly before we go to joe, though I’d really like to see that. Well, you’re probably not going to have time to.

[00:49:41] See it fly before we go. You think so honestly, probably not, like that’s I’m gonna, I’m well. No, I have to fly at first and that will probably be a weeknight because we’re running out of time, like, we have this weekend, which I’m busy, we have next weekend, which is dayton, then we have the weekend after that which is getting stuff set up to go, and then we leave, because that week before we leave is going to be busy too. I’ve got a meeting- rc meeting- tuesday, so that takes that day out right.

[00:50:16] And we’ve got getting ready and all that the rest of the week so that friday we can leave.

[00:50:22] Nice and early evening I’m almost positive he’s gonna have me take off on sunday.

[00:50:28] So I can be back by thursday I mean whatever works as long as you’re back oh I’m gonna be back.

[00:50:34] I mean don’t I’ve already made it clear I don’t care what’s on that trailer I don’t care what I’m.

[00:50:38] Picking up I’m coming home thursday well that’ll be good that’ll give you time to take a nap friday.

[00:50:43] Before we go on stuff too. So I’m gonna be drugged up. Well, don’t say that, as in talenol pm, I’m gonna take two of them in the morning, maybe two in the afternoon. I’m gonna sleep the whole day, if I can.

[00:50:53] Beforehand, not when you’re driving. No, no, not driving. That didn’t work. I would appreciate that I will be sleeping, but I won’t be drugged up, but I’m, I’m assuming the just the gentle rocking of the.

[00:51:04] The rv is gonna knock me out unless you hear a screaming up front then you might want to wake up.

[00:51:10] Well, this is. It’s loud, like, be prepared. It’s a very loud camper to drive in. Oh really, yeah, I don’t understand it. But yeah, it’s, I mean it’s a nice camper. It’s not like it’s gorgeous from the pictures you showed me. Yeah, it’s, it’s, I mean it’s, it’s just loud. I didn’t see that 800 rv on the side of

[00:51:29] Everything so I’m assuming this is gonna be a really nice camper 800 rv never see those campers.

[00:51:33] Run around the rental ones. No, it’s not a rental one, yeah, so we’ll see what are you bringing as far as planes, I don’t have my list in front of me, but I am taking a cub on floats. I’m taking the sea wind. That’s on floats, pretty much. I bought floats for my umx turbo timber evolution. So what’s that? One, two, three, what else? The umx ultrax, the shiny- I think I’m gonna take that one for night flying, and then probably the

[00:52:18] Oh my mind just went blank the glider the night glider oh the radian oh radian okay yeah.

[00:52:25] The night radian. Okay, it’s not too bad. Oh, I’ll bring two extra six cell packs for you. Oh, I don’t need six cell packs, just in case you gotta plug into the boat out there, so you’ll have some extra juice when you go pick your plane up. They don’t do that. There’s not. Last year did.

[00:52:39] It not no it was just a regular battery that was a six cell no it was an actual 12 volt like deep.

[00:52:46] Cycle battery oh I can bring an extra one if you want no I got enough batteries to make one of those.

[00:52:51] I know we’re not doing that and actually I forgot. I think I’m going to take the twin otter two, okay, the bigger one. That way, everything, pretty much everything I’m taking runs on three s 2200s, all right, and if they’re in the boxes- which a lot of these are still stored in the boxes because that’s where I keep them- then it will be easy to transport. Okay, and I’m thinking about taking, like we got a figure, eating too. So I’m I’m trying to figure if I have room to take my griddle. I’ve got the blackstone. It’s not blackstone, but blackstone type. What? 36 Inch griddle, right?

[00:53:25] Those are very handy to cook on are we buying all groceries before we leave or while we’re down.

[00:53:31] Here, no before. Okay, like I’ll probably go wednesday night or thursday night and just load up on stuff and put it in the fridge in the camper and just have it all be ready. All right, I’m gonna need you guys.

[00:53:42] Give me a list on what you want me to get so I can have it in the camper and ready to go when we leave.

[00:53:48] Okay, well, I mean we’ll have to talk about food and stuff and see what we’re doing too, okay. But I mean I’ll pick up- like I mean I’ll happily get hot dogs and that kind of stuff- buns, if you want to pick up like t-bones and all that, that’ll be fine. Imagine that, just the bones with the meat with it. Oh, of course, the meat I mean obviously maybe fillets or something else. Yeah, okay, no, or anything. Of course it goes without saying. No, we’ll talk about that before we go. Then we’ll try and figure everything we’re going to take. But it’s going to be good, it’s going to be fine. I’m looking forward to.

[00:54:21] It can’t come quick enough true enough it’s a well-deserved vacation very well so are you expecting.

[00:54:29] Anything from this are you are you planning on buying anything when you’re there are you bringing money.

[00:54:33] To spend all right and we’ll bring money to spend e-flight’s going to be there with a bunch of.

[00:54:39] Their stuff set up. I also saw horizons doing like seminars and stuff this year that I would like to see what they’re going to be talking about and figuring all that out, spectrum and all that okay.

[00:54:51] If I remember you guys said during the big during the week it’s not so crowded but during the weekend.

[00:54:56] It’s when it kind of overflowed in it. No, no. So sunday, monday, tuesday is a little. It grows as the week goes on. Okay, sunday and monday is not bad. Tuesday is getting busier. Wednesday is when it really hits. Thursday it hits harder and then people start going home saturday morning, okay. So really I mean the, the three main days you’re going to have are wednesday, thursday and friday. And wednesday, I think, is the. I think that’s the steak night. If I remember right, maybe it was thursday, I don’t remember.

[00:55:31] Which you got tickets for that right oh yeah okay and then I don’t think we’re doing the.

[00:55:39] Barbecue friday night but we’ll see we should be pretty good you’re gonna bring a grill I think we’d be.

[00:55:45] Good yeah as long as I can fit it see all right but it should be fun any expectations anything you’re.

[00:55:54] What? I’m just kind of trying to keep everything down and just wait till I get there so I can just watch my face drop, just walk around slobber, just like why can I be here every day instead of just now? Yeah, that kind of thing, but I get it. A week’s not long enough, no, I mean it’d be nice if it was in our backyard, that’d be awesome. I know any moving plans wrong, no, but I’m still trying to.

[00:56:20] Convince crystal. We need to buy a camper that I’ve been hitting her hard on that one and let me say I’m failing, but I’m the death. Look, I’m wearing her down. I think in the next 10 years, like you never know, you’re switching my hand, hers, down to you. No, I doubt that. But although you never know, they might buy a nicer one. There you go. This was kind of their wouldn’t be hand down, but I think this is their. Let’s see if we’re gonna like it, if we’re gonna use it, kind of thing.

[00:56:52] But I have always wanted one. I’ll be honest, and I have- like I think I have justified it in my mind- buying one more than crystal has, because there, I mean, there are a lot of fly-ins that I would like to go to, right, there are a lot of fly-ins that we do go to, and if we had the ability to just drive there in a camper and have everything with you and then stay there for a weekend, that would be.

[00:57:16] So nice my camper’s out in your driveway right now but my travel agent kind of likes to keep that.

[00:57:22] Thing moving well. Plus, you don’t have a lot of space in it for depending what trailer I’m pulling. I guess that’s true. Yes, Reggie’s semi is parked in my driveway right now, which that’s a nice truck, by the way. Thank you, appreciate it. It’s brand new. Oh, is it really? Yeah, just got beginning of the year.

[00:57:37] Oh, how many miles on it now. About 45 or 44 000 on. I gotta think it had like maybe 1500 on it in four months. Yeah, wow, it’s been to california back. It’s been a few places on the east coast, about four.

[00:57:52] Five times it’s been around. So you, you really don’t mind the drive. No, no, you say it all the time in the back of my mind. I’m like man- I hope he’s not like just saying that to be nice, like this is my 30th year driving. Oh, man, you started when I was like 12, just saying that’s how you look. That much has changed anyway. What anything else? Oh, crash stories. You said you had. You said you had a couple.

[00:58:24] A few, probably a lot more than you’re willing. Good man, this is the part of the, the show he will come for. I want to hear that we saved the best for last, although the last one was the p39, which I waited for two years to put this thing together, get it in the air. I’m sorry I have to cut you off, just I’m so.

[00:58:43] Sorry we’ll get back to this I have to ask you by the way about the mustang you have that dave has.

[00:58:50] Been working on for ages. That, Ron, don’t jinx that one. Please don’t jinx it. Please don’t jinx it. I’ve waited forever for that plane and I’m going to fly it. Okay, he’s put so much work into this. He has put a lot of work into it and it makes me nervous, for I mean literally like the s-bock. If you, you was there when I flew the s-bock for the first time, wouldn’t you? I don’t think so. I think he was shaking. I think you snuck away and tried to do it without me. I knew tommy was there, and I think dave might have been there, but I was literally shaking. I couldn’t even fly it right at the back to give it to tommy.

[00:59:25] Let him do it, make sure things, okay. And then he handed me the radio. I was kind of like what, I don’t want that, what are you doing? What do I do with this thing? He said you’re gonna fly it and I ain’t taking it. And he talked me through it and within about five or ten minutes I was in the air. So yeah, I was. I was a nervous wreck, I. I was having trouble breathing the whole time. It was in the air. When I finally landed, it’s when I finally calmed down- I thought I pissed myself. But I didn’t. I was okay. Okay, sorry, sorry, but it was that bad, it was that bad. So

[01:00:02] I think I’m trying to remember, I think I bought that one just before the s-bock the mustang. The mustang 1.50 Hanger, 9 mustang, which is about what- 84 or 80 something inches, the 150 sizes around.

[01:00:21] There I think so you’ve had that for quite a while it was in a box forever and then when I.

[01:00:27] Finally got it out. This is when mr stucky was around, still. So this was a new airplane. This is a new airplane. Yep, he actually had two of them on the floor and told me to pick one. As far as the hobby shop owner, when I was, I picked it up out of, oh, champagne, illinois there at slot and wings. Okay, he had a whole batch of these things sitting in there in the back room and there was two of those and as soon as I saw I was like, oh, I gotta have one of those, I’ve got to have one. And it’s been

[01:00:58] Through, probably including tommy and now dave- four people working on that, because I was too scared to mess with it. As far as put it together and one of the people that put it together or worked on it, he just did a sloppy job. I mean, things were not right at all. I went to tommy about it and tommy just shook his head and he straightened quite a few things out and even after I was done I was still didn’t want to mess with it, just scared to death. I was going to destroy this plane.

[01:01:32] And I figured I’d wait. What I mean? Just wait, yeah, get more time in, more experience, it sticks. I try to fly warbirds as much as I can. I even bought a p-51 foamy- the fms 1700 millimeter model, to see if that’d be any different. I don’t do bad with that at all. I actually do pretty good with it and I know it’s. It’s a whole different flight characteristic. But yeah, you still got to land that and you don’t want to bounce them, you don’t want to come in.

[01:02:05] Too slow. You don’t want to come in blazing hot either, so I get the whole gist of it. So I’m kind of hoping when I finally get to this one here I’m gonna probably- oh, I know dave or tommy’s gonna fly first before I fly it. That’s funny. When I talk to them they don’t want to. I’m sure they don’t. I’m sure they don’t, especially now all the work’s been in it. But I can’t see me flying at first, not that one. So I’ll made them with anything else, but I won’t.

[01:02:32] Fly that one, so I lost my train of thought on that. So you, you had it. And was it completely together then and ready to go before you had? Dave, start on the. Yeah, well, it was missing when it came.

[01:02:48] Back from the first two guys that was working on it. There was stuff missing out of it for the canopy, the actual cockpit interior, some things missing that nobody could tell me where they were at. So I don’t like the battery box, I think. Maybe I can’t remember if the chair was missing some cockpit details, decals and whatnot. So that would have been the time to fly it, by the way.

[01:03:12] Probably, but I didn’t. When I bought the kit I didn’t realize. As far as the cockpit kit, I didn’t realize it was going to be all that at all. I’ve seen a few brian’s from dynamic boss’s kits. It’s already kits, yeah, and I didn’t put two and two together like how much work was involved in that and I didn’t realize that until after I actually opened the box to see all these molded.

[01:03:36] Pieces they’re all white nothing colored nothing oh yeah it’s just plastic that’s been vacuum formed.

[01:03:42] And I was like, okay, this is gonna be a problem. So that’s why I asked dave and he was hesitant, but he decided to do it. Dave needs to learn how to say no.

[01:03:53] True just not to me oh yes to you so you owe him a lot I know if you even if you’re only paying.

[01:04:01] Him like 10 bucks an hour. You’re into it. I asked him: am I gonna need a loan for this? Hey, let me know. So, yeah, I will take care of dave. I would take care of him. I’ll take care of tommy, whichever need to be.

[01:04:14] Done just I’d like to learn maybe dave’s buying a jet good luck dave off of you that’s a possibility.

[01:04:25] It is. That’s a possibility. I might fly at one time and just like, nope, I can’t do it. No, I mean, you owe him that much, so we’ll have enough money? I hope not. Needless to say, between dave and tommy I learned a lot. I’ve had learned a lot and still learning. There’s a lot more to be learned. So I think I gotta get my confidence up as far as actually hands-on, so like when you’re doing your covering. I listen to you guys talk about you covering. I’m still sketchy with it and it just I get pissed off quick while I’m doing it and before long I got a mess going on. Then I tear.

[01:04:59] Something I poke a hole I get to the point where I gotta walk away I think oh I hope I’m not telling.

[01:05:07] Tales, but do I remember this has been gosh 10, 12 years ago. Were you out here working on an airplane, putting it off together or something, and are you the one that moved the chair and put the leg of?

[01:05:22] The chair right through the wing on the ground hey are we talking about old blue when I was doing.

[01:05:29] That out here. Maybe that’s what it was. I just remember you working on an airplane, upstairs at the kitchen table and you move the chair and you- you put the leg down on. That may have been me, I think.

[01:05:43] It was it’s it’s just silly stuff like that yeah is what makes me so aggravated not wanting to do.

[01:05:49] It. You telling those stories is what made me think of that and it’s like that way- I think that was Reggie. That sounds like something that’s my life. That’s my life right there. Oh, that’s, it’s like.

[01:06:00] It was the, the free wing b24 liberator. I want to say: that’s what. It was brand new, get it all together. Perfect on the kitchen. No, I’m sorry, the dining room table had the batteries in it. Props were on it. It was on. Everything’s ready to go. I was testing something and I put my controller down over on a stack of laundry and walked away, only to look back in time to see the controller slide.

[01:06:37] Off the laundry, flip the plane into full throttle and watch it take off from the table and hit straight into the wall. It went about two feet- oh, that’s not the one I was thinking of, okay- and it fell down onto the floor I had. I got to my controller just in time to turn it off, but it already hit the wall. Yeah, so ouch, that was three props in fixing two narcells, a loss of a gun and a ding somewhere. I can’t remember. I had something dinged up but I hadn’t been fixing it. Are you the one that had the plane into your jeans too, the twin star, the one you had afterwards? Is that okay? Yeah, I, I can’t remember.

[01:07:14] It caught the throttle but it was up against my knee and I was just. I was running the throttle for a little bit because I thought one of the motors were spinning up a little faster than the other, for whatever reason. I turned him down and twisted move or something and went full throttle. The damn thing was up against my knee and it spun around and caught me in the knee- gosh. So yeah, there’s a lot of safety violations that go on. In my place there’s a throttle cut button right you can put on there. Yeah, I got them on. It’s always I it’s all set on all my planes.

[01:07:49] But I failed to turn them off at their proper time okay and I like do you take props off when.

[01:07:56] You’re? No, I won’t know. That’s your problem. Like you can that sea wind? I literally just put the prop on that last night after I was done with everything. Like the prop was just off, you can see the cub over.

[01:08:09] There the prop is still off because I need to practice that I do, I’d be the first to admit it. I normally figure I put everything together and I’ll right off the bat put throttle kit on and when I’m working on I’m trying to just throttle up, trying to see what’s going on with it. I’ll flip it off, whatever. But it’s always that little something or another, whether it be just sleeve shirt or shirt sleeve or just a nudge or something, and next thing throttle’s on.

[01:08:36] And guess who’s right in front of the props? Well, that’s we’ve talked about before. That’s problem with electrics: because they don’t care, they’re not going to die and you don’t have to start them first. So that’s why it’s so easy, so quick: just to pull a prop off it is and you don’t have.

[01:08:54] To worry about it’s something I should be swallowing every time after especially after the whole hand.

[01:09:00] Incident with this spock which by the way how’s that doing stiff is it’s just stiff everything.

[01:09:07] All healed back up though. I think so, I think so. It’s just, it’s stiff. I think the whole- sorry, I think it’s just the whole getting older thing, arthritis- I’m pretty sure that’s sitting in.

[01:09:20] Pretty good hell yeah so did you get did they have to go back in or what was it with the carbon.

[01:09:25] Fiber, do they get all that out now? The middle finger still had quite a bit of it in it. Of course it did. Yeah, imagine that so- and they got about little 40, 50 pieces of it out, but the finger’s still numb. Oh, those actual two fingers are still just numb, like it just went to sleep.

[01:09:47] Or something, yeah, but, as you can see, they still don’t sit. Oh yeah, they’re not even nope, not at all, wow, but they’re operational. I can see, but I can. Yep, yep, yep. It’s just fast, remember. It’s like a.

[01:10:02] Pair of tweezers folks basically if you think about what tweezers look like that’s what these two.

[01:10:07] Fingers. Yeah, how they go together just like that. Huh, well. Well, I’m glad it’s at least healing and getting semi back. I’m just happy I still have them. Yeah, and you can still fly. True, true, I did by.

[01:10:19] Fact. I went back the next day- I believe it was you did. That was: yeah, it was the right next day. That was nuts I did, I couldn’t, I wasn’t gonna let defeat me like that, yeah, but you were still on medicines and I came down. I came down as a matter of fact, I think if anybody thought I was loopy out.

[01:10:35] There. They wouldn’t let me on out there and fly. True, very true. But now let’s get back to one thing: that we didn’t finish talking about crash stories, I think you probably were hoping I forgot. Oh no, oh no.

[01:10:45] Okay see the last crash was the e-flight p39 air cobra and like I said I’ve waited two years to get.

[01:10:54] That thing in the air and I finally get the fuse so what why two years because that’s an awfully.

[01:11:00] Long time it was a discontinued plane. I mean, I got to fly for about maybe half a year and the last crash I had with it was out in salt lake flats. So of course, when I went to go order parts I didn’t know it was discontinued, couldn’t find anything. I well, no, I found the prop. I found the spinner and an elevator. That’s all I found, and I got to look around for it, eventually found the

[01:11:28] Wing over in irving texas at a hobby town near and I drove there and got it I made no doubt about it.

[01:11:35] I went and got it. That’s interesting. The fuse, however, disappeared for a while. It literally just showed back up here about a month ago. I know, two months ago. What do you mean disappeared, as in nobody had it. Oh, I thought you meant like you lost. No, no, it was just. It was discontinued okay, and for some reason they always kept saying it was going to come back and it never did. And all of a sudden, just out of two months here, it just suddenly reappeared, and the first one I got the rudder was tore off of it. I was just going to leave it at that, but I made the mistake of using the screws from the first.

[01:12:10] Air cobra out of it into the new one and they were just snapping- I mean literally snapping into the fuse where you mount the motor at. They were just breaking off in the fuse. The whole head would come right off the screw. And I’m thinking maybe because it was in had been in that salt, maybe possibly, I don’t, I don’t know. That’s weird. I should have took that as the big hint there.

[01:12:37] Because I think when it crashed it ingested quite a bit of salt. The motor sounded a little funny. Salt was definitely inside the receiver, which I didn’t see that. But I finally looked at and it’s all the corrosion going on in there. After the second crash, one of the smart batteries on the balancing plug it’s got a little green on it and that was the one that was in the plane.

[01:13:02] So I should have took all that and just been done with it and just like, let me replace everything, and did not. So when she went up for the first flight, she was sketchy, I was fighting her but she flew, so I figured I can just kind of trim it out a little bit. I knew I had a servo that was seeming like it was locking up a little bit. It was a rudder servo, if I remember right, but it had just enough to where. That’s all I needed. I didn’t even really very much out of it and I just kept. So you knew this before you took off. I knew that before we took off. Oh, but it was fine on the rudder.

[01:13:36] Servo was fine. It there was a spot in it and I knew even if it got hung up it was deflection was just going to be minimum on what it was going to be. So okay it was, it was fine. She flew good. I mean especially trying to refigure how, how the setup was on that, but it just it still didn’t seem right and I couldn’t figure out what that was. So I went to go up again at the check-in battery make sure everything was good. Apparently the double-sided tape on the bottom of the receiver.

[01:14:12] It was coming loose and I didn’t catch that and that was one of the safe receivers. So once it got up in the air and that receiver popped off the gyro and that just let it go. So she went up, she inverted and I was flying it inverted for about I don’t know 10, 15 seconds but she was coming down so I just kept as low as I could keep it. I couldn’t flip it back over and just watched it nose in and we went in about maybe I don’t know, maybe 20 degree angle, 15, 20 degree angle- that’s still pretty good, yeah.

[01:14:46] They didn’t destroy it. But after seeing it I just completely discouraged with it and I just let it go. So it’s in the garbage now- not yet it’s gonna make its way, though I’m, I don’t trust anything in it, and that’s when I looked inside the receiver. You see, it looked a little crappy in here. So it’s like, yeah, I.

[01:15:02] Think this is done, so I have bought recently a few of the like ar631s, the AS3X+ and safe receivers right. I’m not a big fan of safe, but I understand if you need it’s good to have right. So if I’m flying and the sun gets in my eyes or something stupid, I get a bug and something stupid. It’s nice to kind to have that as a backup, but one of the things I do, so I will set up flight modes and have three

[01:15:34] Switches: one is safe, obviously, one is AS3X+, and then the other one is AS3X+ off, safe off, so you’re just flying it yourself. So if anything ever happens where, like if a receiver comes loose, I can flip into just flying it- old school right- and you don’t have to worry about any of that with your receiver.

[01:15:59] Well, something we’re thinking about. I- I was almost positive, the switch that I normally would use for safe. I could not get it to do anything. I mean literally I would move the plane around, I wouldn’t see anything moving. I kept flipping the switch back and forth to see if I could see it move and I couldn’t see anything move. But yet I could hear. I watched dance do the whole little bit when you first plug it in.

[01:16:25] And so I didn’t think there was nothing working at that time. As far as safe, when I flew it around, she did not act like she had safe at all to her. I even had, because I put all my throws all in one switch like a switch e. So 50, 70, 100 or whatever it may be for the plane. Oh okay, and your rates, my rates, thank you. Generally when I flipped safe on, those rates would still work with safe.

[01:16:55] So I can still get so much out of it. But this one here she just act like there was no safe going until that last takeoff and then all of a sudden she had it. Yeah, and for whatever reason she decided to go inverted, because I looked at the receiver once I went over to it: it was definitely off and it was off to the side. I really don’t know. I just assumed that safe said hey, this is not right, and flipped it.

[01:17:19] Over could it have been on a different switch that you accidentally flipped I checked everything.

[01:17:23] Before it took the off the ground I mean I was checking every switch trying to see if I could find.

[01:17:27] It’s normally on that plane it was.

[01:17:33] What the hell is that b I think not the landing gear which is I think a it’s one right above it.

[01:17:41] For this radio three position yeah I think so I think so I don’t know why I think that’s e but I.

[01:17:54] Could be wrong he’s over on the right side it’s on the face of the radio this one here is at the very.

[01:17:59] Top of the radio on the left side. See, I never, I never look at it, because when I go to program stuff all you got to do is tell it what you want to do and then flip the switch and then it automatically switches or uses that switch, right. So I don’t pay attention to what each one is called, but yeah, like I know, I do those on a three position switch. So yeah, that’s kind of a goodbye, good riddance.

[01:18:21] Thing to this one here I know fms came out with another one which not worried about it right now.

[01:18:28] Maybe something down the line, maybe, if they still have it, so that one was crashed twice or three times, that’s twice. For that one, twice, okay. So number two took it out. Number two’s done. What else have you cracked? Oh, what can’t? They don’t even remember. There’s always so many. I do recall seeing a picture.

[01:18:49] Of an f-16 with a cracked. Oh yeah. Yeah, I was out flying with tommy and jd at the church and I came in for a landing and the landing was actually pretty nice. It’s just I bounced it and then it bounced again and again, and again and again and again. So that’s the opposite of pretty nice. It was nice coming in.

[01:19:11] It’s just one so the approach was good but the landing left a little to be desired oh yeah it matter.

[01:19:17] Of fact, that was a brand spanking new nose gear I just put on there and sure enough, it bounced it hard enough to crack the fuse up there in the landing gear area to the point where, if you grabbed it hard enough, you could probably pull about a good six inches of it off. Well, the picture you sent you could see the separation of it. So, yeah, I’ve got some spars for it. I’m planning on getting to it eventually sometime here to try to see if I can fix that. It’s actually a really great flying plane. I mean I love it. That whole rotation as it’s coming in it’s, it’s beautiful. Yeah, that’s the e-flight f-16.

[01:19:49] Yes, 80, 80 millimeter. Yes, yeah. So I’m planning on keeping that one. So, at worst, come worse. If I got you, I’ll just get a new fuse for it, but we’re gonna try to see if we can’t fix it okay. And of course, you remember the, the whole deal with the. Oh, what the heck is that? Oh, oh, I can’t think what that is. Oh, extreme flight, extra 300. I have no idea how I missed this. This is the one with the latching.

[01:20:19] Wings. It’s a little latch that goes down on the wings. I have no clue how I missed. I know I did the one, but somehow or another I missed the right wing, I believe it was. So you’re admitting to not doing it, not having it come undone. I don’t think it came undone. I think I just never got it all the way down. Okay.

[01:20:36] So that makes me feel better I don’t I have not had an extreme flight plane so I don’t know how.

[01:20:41] Those work well. They lock in place once you push them down. Okay so, but I don’t think I got it all way down, or if I even pushed it down, let’s just leave it at that. Judging by your stories, you might not have, I might not have, so history dictates. When she went up, everything looked fine, it was great and

[01:21:02] I think I did a lap and when I came back around, all of a sudden the right wing panel just completely did a 45 or 90 degree angle all of a sudden, and I was up high enough and I was like what in the hell? And just she started to kind of do a spin. Yeah, that would work as a break. Then, exactly, and I what I did. Then I was like I gave it full rudder, I do believe an elevator to go with that spin. It was the best.

[01:21:34] Flat spin I’ve ever done- I mean the best one. I thought it was almost intentional until I saw the wing like that. So I’m so proud of myself. I was, I was, and when it hit the ground it came in so soft it didn’t only thing it broke was the landing gear on the one side, but it was. Nothing else was broke. Well, that’s awesome. So, as a matter of fact, I to be honest with you and this to be being honest,

[01:21:58] I was so mad at myself that I went over to the plane, looked at us like this is stupid. How did I forget this? How did I miss this? And I latched it down. The wings were fine, even the end pieces were fine. What I did after that: I put the plane over on the pavement, fired it back up and I flew it.

[01:22:20] Really, I flew it. I was missing one gear. I didn’t know. I didn’t know where we were going with that. I wasn’t sure if it was going to be I flew it or I stepped on it and I threw it away. No, no, I was I.

[01:22:31] Was figuring what I’m gonna fly this plane. I brought this battery out here I’m flying this damn plane and then- and I didn’t care what the landing gear looked like on the one side- I flew it. Oh good, I didn’t realize that, so I flew it and I went through the whole battery and I landed. I came in for the softest landing I could, didn’t tear anything else up, but I flew it. That’s a new one too like I don’t remember you having that for very long. I’ve had that one, that net the 330, for about a year a little.

[01:23:02] Over a year and a half I think no I just don’t take them out okay I’m trying that’s the ones I was.

[01:23:08] Flying in all that wind here what a month ago yeah that’s all we’ve had excuse me that’s all we’ve had.

[01:23:14] As wind, hurricane type wind. Yeah, it’s silly, it’s still, as a matter of fact, this friday. I’m sorry, this sunday is actually supposed to be a good day- five to ten, if I’m understanding right. Oh really.

[01:23:24] Yep because not tonight last yesterday was 30 sustained with 40 mile an hour gusts.

[01:23:33] Welcome to the midwest. All right, I can’t think of anything else at the moment. Ron, I think I had something else, but I can’t think of what it was. Well, if you think of it, write it down and come back.

[01:23:45] On, but I’m I’m about to fall asleep in my chair. I’m sorry, I don’t mean to be so exciting. No, it’s the, it’s the time. Yes, it is late. Oh, my gosh, I have to be working like hours. Yeah, you and me both. Okay, you want to take us out, or do you have anything else? You can end this however you want. Do you have anything?

[01:24:04] Else you want to talk about? No, let’s. Let’s talk about ending the end here. Thank you, rc. Plane lab. Podcasts: viewers, listeners, I want to say thank you for asking me to come on the show and I appreciate that for people that asked about me. So I want to say thank you and if you haven’t,

[01:24:24] Filled out the listener survey. Go do it now and tell us how much you like or dislike Reggie. Thanks, Ron, happy to help. All right, take us out because I’m ready to go bed, all right? Well, as always, we want to say thank you. Why is it? By the way, you get really close to the microphone now. Like the whole time you’ve been sitting back, but now you get all official and you’re like: oh, I don’t know.

[01:24:47] Let me get right in here now well I’m only on here once every six months so this is all I know how to do.

[01:24:53] Okay we’ll have at it I won’t interrupt again now I can’t promise that we’ll see I don’t plan on.

[01:24:58] Again, thank you, viewers and listeners, for listening to us. As always, we say: fly good, fly great, fly straight, whatever. Nonetheless, I’m Reggie and I’m Ron. Have a good night, good night.

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