Ep 161: Many Maidens and the big Spektrum Update

[00:00:11] Hello everyone and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I’m Ron and I’m Tom and I’m dave. Gentlemen, sir, hi, hi. So I think we’re all tired. No, not you. Yeah, I’m tired, tired. It’s been a rough week, tough couple weeks. It’s been some fun, though we have had fun. We did get to go fly, got some good things to talk about and some other good things to talk about, I guess I don’t know. It’s all good things. It’s all stuff you guys want to hear. Yes, well, you said yeah, hopefully, and if they don’t,

[00:00:52] They’re gonna hear it anyway or turn it off or turn it off send your complaints too yeah not me.

[00:00:57] Anymore, I got one, by the way, ironically. Oh really said that. Yeah, so we’ll talk about that, okay, right now. Oh had a complaint about the amount of commercials. Oh that we have one thing that.

[00:01:09] We really did have no control over well that’s not true really we do oh do we and I change it.

[00:01:16] Ah, well, okay. So let’s a little behind the scenes, okay, action. So because I’m gonna learn too, because I really know nothing about what goes on behind the scenes, when I upload an episode, the ad time slots are automatically inserted by our podcast host, which, that is true. I have no control over where they put them. Once it goes in, I have to go and delete the ones that I don’t want, and then I can put them at certain positions where we want them. There are times because we- so we are to the point.

[00:01:51] Where we record thursdays and we release the next day that’s kind of the what we’ve fallen into which.

[00:01:56] I think works out fine it’s okay yeah doesn’t leave a lot of time for editing well yeah you get other.

[00:02:03] Stuff. At this point you get what you get right because I don’t edit anymore. I still run through scrubbers and stuff for audio and all that, but that doesn’t matter when I upload it. There are times I upload it and I go to bed and forget because it takes some time to process and all that stuff and there are times I forget to go and do the commercial thing. I think that’s happened two or three times that I remember. Okay, when I remember I go back and take care of it. So then people that download from that time on don’t have all of the commercials, gotcha. So I forgot apparently this.

[00:02:39] Last time and I got called out on a very not nice email about too many commercials. I will no longer be listening. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, sorry, I mean it is what it is. Yeah, this costs us money.

[00:02:54] Yeah, we’re still not, we’re still not making. No, we’re not, and that really kind of is not the point I mean, and it’s not at this point. We do it because we enjoy it. We do enjoy it, but it would be.

[00:03:05] Nice to have it pay for itself. It would. So that’s all I’m saying. So, so that’s why you guys get commercials, hopefully. Sorry about the commercials, hopefully, if I remember it’s only one or two during the hour and a half. It seems like where you’ve been doing now episodes. Okay, today’s probably going to be shorter because I don’t have a lot to talk about. I don’t know about you guys. Well, we have some stuff to talk about. Okay, yeah, we spent three minutes on a complaint. Well, there’s some new stuff.

[00:03:29] That was announced and some other new ish stuff that we’re going to talk about so yeah sorry we’ll.

[00:03:35] Try better. No, I mean I’ll, yeah, I’ll try to take them out when I can, but if I forget, I forget and just know that’s why. And if you really don’t like the commercials and want commercial free, how do you do that, tommy? Well, you, you can be a patron. There is no minimum cost. We don’t have tiers set up, we don’t have anything like that. It’s just a simple. We like what you guys do. Here’s a buck, thousand dollars a month, whatever it is. So, yeah, yeah, sorry about that. That’s all I wanted to say on that. Well,

[00:04:03] He’s not listening anymore, so there’s no well to any other of the three listeners that we have that are also bothered by the bothered by the commercials. I apologize, but yeah, it is what.

[00:04:15] It is so, and I don’t know if it’s just my own thoughts or how this is working, but when I listen to different on different platforms, it seems like there may be more or less commercials. It seems like when I listen to iheart radio, which is my preferred, it seems like there’s less commercials. Oh then maybe.

[00:04:32] They’re adding that I don’t know so maybe we should look into that I’m not going to I was.

[00:04:38] Gonna say like I said it might be just in my own head but yeah that’s what I seem to see I mean.

[00:04:42] And it’s possible, like I don’t have control over all the aggregators that pick us up and all that stuff right where people download from. So, once again, the only place I can tell you to have no commercials for sure is through patreon. That’s right, and we usually try and release a little bit early on patreon. We do by a little bit early. Now it seems to be like an hour minutes.

[00:05:02] 30 Seconds about the time it takes for you to listen to all those commercials it used to be.

[00:05:07] To get it there you go it used to be that we would do a day or two early when we recorded a lot.

[00:05:10] Earlier but we don’t anymore yeah and that’s okay and who knows maybe we’ll get back to it once.

[00:05:16] Things settle down who knows I don’t know I kind of like this though I mean like yeah it seems to.

[00:05:23] Work for us so I don’t see yeah I like the current setup so that’s probably how it’s gonna stay yeah.

[00:05:29] Okay, okay, so now let’s go on to happier things. Yeah, one thing I saw a while ago that I wanted to talk about that I forgot until I went back to look today to see if it had been released yet, which it has not. It’s going to be august. Pilot rc is coming out with a auto start for the dle 55 ra nice. Why am

[00:05:51] I excited about that. You ask: well I know why. Why is that? Because you happen to have a dle 55 ra that needs. That’s neat. That would be really slick with an auto start. Yeah, so I actually already bought an auto.

[00:06:03] Auto start for it. I did buy the wrong size, which is on me, and that’s okay, and I thought about I bought for the 35, yeah, oopsies, but I thought about buying the bigger one to put on there. But then I started looking at it. I would have to cut the cheeks off of the- and this is the 12 foot Telemaster we’re talking about. I’d have to cut the cheeks or cheeks off in order to have it fit, yeah, and that would look ugly, it would look weird. So this one that pilot’s coming out with from all the pictures and the youtube videos and stuff I saw on it, it’s in line. It’s no wider than

[00:06:38] The motor itself yeah I like that’s gonna be perfect that’s purple slide right in there yeah.

[00:06:43] Purple I don’t know about. I mean, it’s cool color but there’s no purple on there. Well, the blue and red kind of make it look purple. Yeah, from a distance it will look purple. So there you go. Good enough. So yeah, I don’t know pricing yet. I’m hoping it’s not going to be ridiculous. It’s.

[00:06:58] Probably going to be ridiculous, but it’s still a cool little feature worthwhile. So yeah, pilot, it could be almost like a motor glider. At that point I never thought about what I mean. Yeah, catch maybe some thermals with that huge wing and shut the engine off. With my luck I’d go to

[00:07:15] Restart it. It wouldn’t start. Wouldn’t start or something stupid. But one of the things I said too, though, is that the controller for it- because it’s brushless, which is, I mean, like the one that I had before- is brushed and it’s just a plane, so it has an extra battery, and then it’s just a simple relay that you can, that you can control just an off button, right. So, this being an actual whoops- brushless motor, I don’t know what all is going to be in it, but it says it has a kill built into it, and then it’s bought or it’s ran off the same battery as your. Yeah, that’s handy.

[00:07:50] So, yeah, that’s cool. Well, and we all know you’ll have plenty of battery. I do have. I’m pretty sure the battery in my truck is smaller. Okay, anyway, moving on, 15 000- and I’m not exaggerating, no, you are.

[00:08:03] No, I’m not, you are, because it’s only 10 000. For the actual flight surfaces there’s 5 000, but there’s 15, 15 000 milliamps of battery power that are going to be in the 12 foot Telemaster, still missing. What your point is? It’s a lot of battery, that’s all I’m saying. It’s not that much. I probably ought to double that up: 47, 47 is not that anyway? So, yes, moving on. Oh, moving on. Okay, there are a couple actually.

[00:08:36] In the last two weeks, has? No, it’s been a little over two weeks since we recorded last time, hasn’t it? No, it was two. No, it was actually just two weeks today. So a lot has come out, yeah, from horizon in that amount of time. Pretty exciting: two airplanes and spectrum had a big update- huge. All of us update air users more, so everybody else other than me with my radio, but that’s okay. Yeah, that’s true, I got the shaft. I didn’t get an update. That’s because yours is from 1986 and it works just fine, okay.

[00:09:08] Anyway we’ll talk about that in a little bit so two airplanes came out yeah I’m really excited so.

[00:09:15] They finally released details and pictures of the 20 cc size. I think this was like one of the worst kept secrets. Yeah, I mean, I’ve known about it for at least a couple months. Yeah, more than that, but no, it looks. It looks really good. Horizon announced it on facebook and instantly it seemed like people were a lot of heartburn over the price, which don’t get me wrong.

[00:09:46] For the for the fully equipped one twenty one hundred dollars that is a lot of money at one time.

[00:09:51] However at one time however well hold on let’s let’s start with the ARF okay what is just the ARF I think.

[00:09:58] It’s like 15.99. 15.99, Yeah, which includes the gear, yeah, includes the retractable control. Yeah, exactly, I don’t think that’s bad. I don’t. I don’t either, considering. I mean, it’s 94 inches. Is that what I read somewhere? I thought 84, 84, 84. Excuse me, yeah, yes, 84 inches. That’s a big airplane it is. I mean, maybe not by like hugo gigantic standards or whatever, but that’s still. It’s still a good size airplane, and even for an ARF of this size.

[00:10:34] 15.99 Is really kind of not out of that, not that out of line, yeah, and then to get the gear and the controller with it, I mean, I think that’s. I think that’s pretty fair and it’s a good scheme I like. Yeah, it’s a cal, the cal aero scheme, the firefighter scheme, red and white should show up nice in the sky. It’s not the, it’s not the weathered look, which I appreciated they. They left it kind of bright and clean, yeah, which I like I do too. But no, it looks, it looks really good. I’m I’m still not sure if I’m prepared to buy one. Oh, I’m definitely not prepared to buy one right now.

[00:11:09] Because, yeah, that’s the same with me, but even later on, this one is more palatable to go electric than the big one. Yeah, because we’re down to 6s batteries, which are slightly more reasonable. Single battery and a single battery, exactly like you said, so. And the 21.99 Price, I with avian electronics and the gear and all that. I don’t think that’s honestly all that bad. So what comes? What are? There’s three levels: 15.99 Is just the ARF, so 15.99, Yeah, that’s the ARF.

[00:11:43] You’ve got these pages all out of order. 14.99- Excuse me, 14.99- For the ARF, 17.99 With the avian motors and speed controllers and then 20, basically 2100 bucks, gets you the, the servos plus all that stuff. So does it say how many servos? I don’t remember how many. It takes a lot. It does nine. That’s a lot of servos. Yeah, well, actually I take that back, it’s 10.

[00:12:15] 10 Servos, that’s even more than nine. Yeah, the 2100 price gets you all of the electronics, gets you nine of the 6380 servos, plus a 6330 which is, I’m sure, for the steering probably- yep, exactly, and the landing gear. And then 100 amp speed controls- yeah, times two. The nice- yeah, they’re nice avian outrunner motors, so I don’t know. 20, 2100 Bucks for all that stuff, and all you have to do is put in a receiver and a battery. That’s really not all that out of line, well, yeah.

[00:12:52] Okay, yeah, I mean that’s. Yeah, all the hard stuff is included, exactly. So, yeah, I like it a lot, I’m really excited about it. It’s gonna be a while, but if I get a bronco, it’ll be this one, not the big one. Just I mean, just because it’s half price, just because, honestly, it’s more, because by the time you

[00:13:11] Look at all the yeah gear and stuff that comes with it to buy the bigger one yeah if you want to go.

[00:13:16] It’s gonna be more than your jet. Yeah, exactly, it would have been over, yeah, would definitely have been more than my jet, by at least a little, and a lot easier to store and a lot easier to store and transport the bronco you’re. You’re saying yeah, yeah, but if you want to go gas, 20 cc’s which are, by all accounts, somewhat more inexpensive- inexpensive than budget from a pair of 35 ra’s, for example- so yeah, by you save yourself several hundred bucks.

[00:13:49] That way, and then about half by just going to slightly smaller, and it’s still a big airplane, so I think it’ll fly well. I can’t wait to see one, like actually see in person. Yeah, so I agree. Yep, so that’s new. Can’t wait to see one of those at the field. Are you gonna get one? I no, I can’t right now.

[00:14:09] I have no room. I mean, eventually the room is this part at this point. Oh, I understand, like I’m out of room. Okay, if I can get rid of some airplanes that I don’t want to get rid of because I’m, there’s not a lot I want to get rid of at this point. Yeah, maybe I understand, but we’ll see okay.

[00:14:25] Yeah, so, anyway, I encourage you all to go out and check this out, because I think it’s pretty slick and that was just released today. Today, yeah, it’s brand new. Well, the information is brand new today.

[00:14:37] Officially public. Yeah, today, I guess neat, what else? What else, dave? So I got umx me 262. That’s a. It’s pretty cool too. I was so close on that one. Oh, I was so close as well, as I was pulling it up. It’s like oh crud. The oh crud is when he saw the price, I think, yeah, I’ve got a.

[00:14:59] Price limit on umx and this, yeah, needed it, I get that, but it’s two motors. It’s two motors, two speed controls, and I bought my one a10, for, I mean, with a little bit of, with a little bit of tinkering, you could go like adverse thrust or differential thrust and you could do some neat stuff with it.

[00:15:18] Maybe probably I don’t know it depends on the board hardwired yeah oh but with the a10 when did you buy.

[00:15:26] That when it first came out however long ago that was that’s the same one you have no oh no I had.

[00:15:33] The one previous. Okay, so how long ago is that? Roughly five years ago. So what else can you buy for the same price five years ago as you can today? I thought it was nothing, nothing. So 165 to 200 bucks in five years- I don’t think is bad with the way prices have been going on stuff personally, well, this.

[00:15:59] One has a clear canopy, though this one has a clear. I was so, so happy. What it’s a? That’s cool, no, that’s good. Clear canopy is great because if it was painted, that would be a definite no. Yeah, it’s a big no, yeah, I’ve lost my mic, it’s dropped. Let’s keep falling just a second better. Yeah, that sounds better. Yeah, all right. So, yep, this is the umx me 262, 30 millimeter edf jet with basic, which they’re always.

[00:16:31] Basic. There’s never a plus. Yeah, I don’t know what the bnf basic means anyway, with AS3X+ and safe select, but it’s got launch mode in. That’s nice, that’s pretty slick. Yes, so hand launch because, yes, yeah, I know, really nice, Ron knows too, and it’s 660 millimeters, so that’s, that’s a good.

[00:16:53] Size for her that’s I don’t know what that means anymore give me inches dave I don’t speak.

[00:17:00] Millimeters Ron said I don’t know how big 660 is in my head but I can’t tell you here just a second.

[00:17:05] Well one meter which would be a thousand is almost three feet by two I thought it was like 39 inches no.

[00:17:12] Oh baby 25.98 So 26 inches that’s actually a good like the umx planes are growing yeah that’s like you.

[00:17:20] Know what’s a what’s a umx a10 I’m asking questions I have nothing in my phone’s way over.

[00:17:26] There you have to look it up yeah hey hold on you keep talking I keep talking head over here dave.

[00:17:33] Keep the show going. Ron’s gonna go look up one of my glasses. I’ll second read this. I’m there with you. How the heck do we get anything accomplished? It’s like it says we do. Comes with four linear servos, so they’re still keeping with those linears. Yeah, speaking of linear servers, I’m gonna have to replace the ones in my umx. Yours are like gear slop all over. I’m pretty sure that’s from flying it on the beach down in florida. Get that sand in there. Standard way the teeth. But man did I have fun with?

[00:18:01] That anyway sorry that’s the gears on your or your umx ultrax you got to tell people what.

[00:18:08] You’re talking about? Right, I did. Did you say it? Yeah, I wasn’t listening. I was looking at this. Sorry, two spectrum brushless outrunner motors and these are the same ones they’re using in the a10- I’m supposing I would think so, and those work really nice. They are very fast. That’s a fast airplane. I like that one. You didn’t like that one at first. I didn’t, I do now. It does have two brushless ESCs. I wonder if it can be. See, I’m telling you it might be able to be hacked a little, yeah, a little tinkering.

[00:18:38] Get some advert or differential thrust and make it jailbreak it yeah do some cool flat spins.

[00:18:44] Oh a 262 and a flat spin that’d be slick I think that would be awesome.

[00:18:50] So what did you say? That was how big 20, what 600 and something, five inches, I think, 25.9 Inches. So the a10 is 22.1 Inches, 562 millimeters. That’s bigger. So see, if you go by price per inch, it’s about right. It’s about right. And, by the way, the a10 is 179.99, That’s.

[00:19:12] More reasonable. But I mean, yeah, anything lower would be more looking at it and it. It does look really good. It has, yeah, it has a really good paint scheme, is really nice on it. Yeah, it’s missing the swastikas, but that’s okay, that’s all right, that’s easy enough to make. Sorry, I’m authenticity. It’s got a nice flat coat, a little weathering on that. That would look pretty sure it would look very it.

[00:19:35] Looks very good by itself but with a little bit of work it even has the skids on the bottom of the.

[00:19:39] Plastic on the bottom, so that’s nice, finally. So somebody was thinking, yeah, yeah, so good job, brian, if you’re listening, really like this, I’ll have to pick one up second hand.

[00:19:55] Maybe by did you guys speaking of deals and picking up stuff? Second, did you guys by any chance take advantage of the 12 christmas days of summer, whatever it was horizon was putting on? They didn’t have anything on that sale that I wanted, yeah, but they did have. Well, I guess that was just their.

[00:20:13] Summer deal. That was their summer sale, yes, but I did buy the air tractor, yeah, and I was so close, but I couldn’t pull the trigger on the big a10. Oh, was it after 60 bucks off? Oh, it was like 369. Yeah, honestly, like I’m not gonna lie, I’ve been kind of watching my money, knowing that the bronco was going to be coming out, but I was expecting actually a little bit.

[00:20:39] Smaller really I was are you disappointed that it’s not smaller probably not because I know I’m.

[00:20:44] Not going to buy it right now if it would have been if you go much smaller then you got the flight.

[00:20:50] Line one or free wing or who are me yeah oh that’s right yeah they do have one but is that foam or balsa.

[00:20:55] It’s foam. It’s foam. Yeah, see, that’s what I like. About the hanger 9 being balsa: me too I was thinking it was more of that size and I was thinking like, out the door, less than a grand would have been where I was. But I’m happy that I’m not spending that, so maybe I will go buy the a10, who knows? Yeah,

[00:21:14] Except I don’t have room. Dang it. See, there you go back to the no room thing. A10s are cool, though a10s are cool. All right, I digress. So me 262: yeah, I like I, if I was gonna buy a new umx, that’s what it would be right now. Really, yeah, I would buy the 262 if I, if I was buying a umx right now, which, as we all know, I’m not buying anything right now except jet stuff. But jet stuff, yeah, that even with the good deals that they were having on the 12 days of summer.

[00:21:45] What a deal, whatever was, on their summer scissors, like all the stuff that they like of all of that stuff. None of that enticed me enough to buy it, but the me 262. It’s just at that price point where, yeah, 200 bucks, I can delay buying servos for my jet for another month, or whatever what I mean.

[00:22:05] So what about like obviously you didn’t buy the air tractor but you have flown the air tractor I almost.

[00:22:11] Bought the air tractor when it was at the same deal yeah after flying yours that’s how much I like flying.

[00:22:16] Gears. Yeah, we can talk about that, even though it’s gearless. So I was gonna say we can talk about that in a minute because it comes to peer pressure, but that’s not. Yeah, it’s not gearless anymore. No, it’s been fixed. He’s repaired it, it’s been fixed and flown and I gotta tell you I like it gear. Well, you should tell the story. So we’re gonna okay. So, yeah, I’m gonna talk about it yet. But oh, I’m sorry, do you want to wait? No, I just want to make sure we hit stuff because I don’t know. That’s okay, okay. So we ended up going. Well, the day I got it- actually now was the day I got that- I flew to.

[00:22:48] The field. No, you got it. You flew it here. So the day I got it within 10 minutes because I knew it was coming, I had batteries charged and stuff within like 10 minutes. I got home, saw it, took it out of the box, really liked it, went out back here and flew its maiden. It is probably the best flying umx airplane that I have flown. They just keep getting better and better. I mean I don’t want to put it on too high of a pedestal, no, it flies, but it flies great. It’s got a little bit higher wing loading.

[00:23:19] Than like the umx turbo timber evolution, I’d slow it down, yeah, so it just it handles really well. It’s fast, like it’s. It is so much faster than I was expecting. Yeah, it’s a lot of fun and it has- it has a whistle to it. I don’t know what makes it whistle, but the whistle makes you want to fly at full.

[00:23:40] Throttle all the whole time yeah just to whistle with the gear on it yeah oh yeah because it.

[00:23:46] Whistled the first time. So, like I said, I think I got three flights in at home, was very happy with it. I had flown it. Obviously, by the time I went out to the field was that the first flight at the field? Yes, okay, it was the first flight, first flight at the field. For that tommy decides to goad me into.

[00:24:09] Well, just it didn’t take much goading. I was surprised I didn’t think it through. I said no at first. So there was a. You said no as you were carrying it towards the table. Oh, I wanted to look, so we have used.

[00:24:24] The tables out of the field to like take off with a slow ultra stick. Yeah, and it worked fine, works perfect. T28, there’s a video of that somewhere. Yeah, and so tommy said we’ll take off from the table, to which I said, no, I don’t want to hit the fence that’s in front of the table, and I, I mean, I don’t know what happened. I, I dumbed it, I did something full throttle right off the table. What?

[00:24:57] Do I? Do I hit the fence and just knocked the gear clean out. Clean, I mean like perfectly, just knocked them off, didn’t hit the propeller, so it was perfect height, completely missed the propeller. It just didn’t quite have enough lift to get that the butt end down to where I could get more, pull more of an angle out of it, yeah. So yeah, knock the gear clean out, so I flew. Yeah, you finished the flight flights, I think that whole day. Yeah, flew really good with the gear off. Yeah, with no gear.

[00:25:28] And it’s kind of fun without gear like I’m gonna be honest so yeah I gave it a peer pressure.

[00:25:34] Well, here, here was my thought, like when I, when I first suggested flying off the table, it was it was not meant as a challenge, the I mean for umx. It has big, big tires, but we’re flying off of a grass field and I didn’t divots, yeah, and I didn’t think it would probably take off very well in the grass and I thought, oh, we’ll just take off the table, this thing’s probably got. And then it was like, oh yeah, take off the table, Ron, take, yeah, use the table. And then it was a challenge and it

[00:26:06] Would have been fine but at first it was out of concern for not being able to take off in the grass.

[00:26:10] If I’m honest, oh, that’s fine, and I didn’t even plan on trying to take off in the grass, it was just going to be a toss it. That’s how I did it here. I mean, so I got the safe select toss thing built into it? I don’t think so. Even if it does, it doesn’t need it. I mean, like it’s so yeah, overpowered, yeah, that airplane it’ll, it’ll do vertical, unlimited vertical. I mean it’s just on 3s, it is very overpowered, which is fun to fly. Good, yeah, yeah, and the whistle is super cool, yeah.

[00:26:42] I’m pretty sure the whistle are the servo covers like you pointed out because they have holes like.

[00:26:46] In the front. Which surprise like. I don’t understand that, like any of the other umx servo covers I have seen have been closed in the front the little bulb has been completely enclosed. That keeps stuff out.

[00:26:57] I wonder if it’s for cooling to keep the servos cool I don’t know it’s a good question I don’t know but.

[00:27:02] That is by far, at this point, my favorite umx airplane. It is fun to fly, that’s for sure. It looks good, it, I mean it really. It slows down extremely well, has functional flaps, all that kind of stuff on it. Good airplane, a lot of fun, but I would without. But I would buy the me 262 right now.

[00:27:23] If I was going to buy a umx? Well, yeah, because I have that, because you have the tractor that I can fly, yeah, I would fly that one if you bought it. Would you good to know? Yeah, I’m looking at some airbrush.

[00:27:37] And chalk work yeah that would be slick yeah it’s too much work I mean like it’s fine just to fly it.

[00:27:43] As is. No, it’s a good looking airplane, just out of the box, but, yeah, I think a little weathering would really kind of bring it to life. Yeah, that shiny paint toy look, yeah, good airplane. So, yeah, do you want to talk about flying then, or is that next on the agenda? What’s next? Yeah, we can talk about that. So that’s the new stuff. That, yeah, that kind of finishes off the new stuff for.

[00:28:05] The last couple weeks and I’ve not seen any new announcements from any other companies, like I haven’t either. I know it seems like we talk about horizon all the time, but they’re the ones that seem to be coming out with new airplanes. Yeah, yeah, I mean we notices anything that I typically watch. We talked about the hobby king pc9 when that came out. Oh, hobby king got their new racer, which I mean.

[00:28:27] We all know about it, but it looks like it’s up for sale now. The ef extra- is that the one you’re talking about? It’s like that- oh man, I should have looked it up. It’s like the little for self racer thing that you got that you bought little kind of mustang looking thing, but it’s not. Oh, the like the v900, yeah, kind of. Oh, yeah, their version of that. Yeah, I think that’s. I think that’s up on their website.

[00:28:50] Now it’s for sale. Nice, because they’ve been out of stock for a while. Right, well, they got the new version out. Oh, okay, well, that’s okay why they’re out of stock. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it’s called the ef.

[00:29:01] Extra, I think I think is what it’s called. No, I don’t see it, but sorry, I did not do any show prep, that’s all right, but anyway, yeah, so flying, yes, one thing: I wanted to talk about dave’s slow ultra stick mods. Oh wow, what a difference. Oh, my gosh, yes, you need to do that to yours. I plan on doing it. So we all have exception of tommy, because whatever we all have slow ultra sticks, I’ll get one eventually. They are well, I it’s. That is actually. It’s really.

[00:29:34] Weird. When we went to the field last time, what you just have my mind just jumps and jumps, probably adhd or add whatever it is, but anyway. So the last time I went out to the field, first time I took the slow ultra stick with me and didn’t fly it. Hmm well, you had a lot going on that last round, but still like I was surprised. When I got home I was like, oh, I didn’t do that one and that’s one of your go-to’s.

[00:30:00] I know because it’s just a fun easy flyer but anyway it’s even more fun after dave’s mod so dave.

[00:30:06] Let’s talk about everything you’ve done to yours, because you also did the, the dual aileron setup which I bought, the servo and stuff for that I just haven’t done yet. So let’s talk about the.

[00:30:15] Differences and how they fly with that and what you did I. When I first got it- I never even flew it with the single aileron setup- I saw that it had the holes for two, so we went and set that up. The flap works really well. I only use half flap I don’t. It doesn’t do much more in full flap it gets. It seems like it gets a little unsettled with full flap. Now the problem with what I’ve got going because I fly an older radio and I can’t do anything about it.

[00:30:46] The AS3X+ only operates one aileron, so it’s a little sluggish. When it comes to correcting for wind and so forth, I know you say yours flies great in the wind. My experience with any wind, mine doesn’t fly so great. I’ve flown mine and I think like 28 mile an hour gusts. Yeah, yeah, and I wouldn’t even think about flying mine that and I do apologize for my voice. I’ve lost it this afternoon, sorry guys.

[00:31:08] Me too I’m a little under but that’s okay you guys sound fine to me the flap though.

[00:31:15] Modification in my throat. By the way, in no wind conditions the thing crawls. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Just it will not stall either. No, it kind of sits and wing wags a little bit, but it just mushes. It just mushes and wobbles its wings. Yeah, I mean like I’m pretty sure.

[00:31:34] That you could with the dual aileron mod and then the other mod that you’re getting ready to talk about. You could set that up in a stall and just let it float all the way down and it would land.

[00:31:44] With no trouble with the new mod. I’m not even using the flaps, yeah, because it won’t land, yeah. So what’s the other mod? The other mod and it’s. It’s a got to. In fact it should have came from the factory this way and it would not have cost him a penny. Swap the electronic speed control mount with the battery mount. When it comes from the factory, the battery mount is a forward of the landing gear and the sc is immediately behind the landing gear with a 2200 three cell. Those two items switch.

[00:32:17] Perfect. Oh yeah, yeah, much, much snappier and still plenty rock solid. Yeah, not, not twitchy in the least. I didn’t even change my throws or expo on the elevator. Are those the same mounts? There’s, they are the same mount, so you don’t even have to unscrew anything. Well, they’ve glued some velcro or something to the sc mount, which you can do to the. So, yeah, I guess you could pry it off there and glue it onto the. Oh okay, I see what you’re saying. It’s just easier. It’s literally just a few screws and

[00:32:50] Sliding stuff around a big deal. 10 Minutes of time? Yeah, if that, okay. It took me longer to find the right screwdriver because they got oddball size screw screwdrivers in it, but yeah, it should come out of the box that way. Yeah, putting the battery immediately behind the landing gear is dead-on. Perfect, and what?

[00:33:09] Kind of got us thinking along those lines: is that journal? We can’t do an episode without talking about journal. So we saw, was it miguel? No, luca. Oh, luca flew his. His battery was pretty much back by the tail, I mean, like it was- I’m exaggerating, but it was like as far back as the battery lead would allow him, like I think it was not completely under the wing, yeah, and he didn’t seem to have any. No, granted, it’s luca bowman. But so that kind of got us all thinking, hey, maybe the CG could shift.

[00:33:45] Aft a little bit and still be okay and I think you could probably even go farther back and I think it.

[00:33:49] Can but I it’s really it’s really fun to fly yeah with that aft CG like that it’s such a good flying.

[00:33:56] And like I said it like it’s still super stable if not more stable it is more stable the glide.

[00:34:03] Yeah I mean it glides forever yeah without any elevator yeah so if you guys have one of those e-flight.

[00:34:09] Slow ultra sticks. Highly recommend. Swap the esc and battery mounts. You’ll be much happier and you need to buy one. I will. Would you get off me? I will buy one eventually someday. One more mod: all the rudder.

[00:34:25] Throw you can get out of the thing. Oh, yeah, okay, I tend to do that with all my airplanes. Anyway, I think I’m gonna beef up the rod back there. Put a piece of carbon fiber on it because it flexes. Yeah, I remember you saying that when you were flying. It washes out when I turn. I can’t remember which way it is, but yeah, it definitely turns sharper one direction. Then you could just put a piece of carbon over the rod. Yeah, okay, cool. And one more thing I’m going to do to it is cut off part of those wing bolts. There is no reason. I know. I don’t know why those are eight times longer than they need to be.

[00:34:58] So yeah those are going to undergo the dremel real soon it’s so you can put the airplane on the ground.

[00:35:02] And you can screw the wing on without bending over at least get it started that way yeah those are.

[00:35:09] They’re pretty long. They’re, yeah, yeah, ungodly long so I was ready to get rid of it. It was so boring I didn’t care for the airplane. Yeah, I was hoping you were going. I was going to get it. Sadly, no, yeah, the CG change made all the difference. Yeah, I’m not surprising. And inverted flat spins are.

[00:35:28] Oh yeah, they’re awesome it’s. It’s way more- for lack of a better word- unhappy upside down than right side up. It’s much more aerobatic, but it’s still so totally solid. Oh yeah, for sure. I was doing very, very like dave, let me fly it. I was doing very, very short inverted loops, not loops, but circles, racetrack pattern above the field at like 25 feet inverted, comfortably. That’s how well it wasn’t.

[00:35:58] Your plane so well I mean it would be even less comfortable normally I get it yeah I.

[00:36:03] Think it’d be someone else’s, but I get the receiver reprogrammed for the AS3X+, I’ll be even happier. Yep, yeah, just borrowing a radio that’s capable of doing that. Well, Ron’s got one, mm-hmm, so did tommy.

[00:36:15] Which we’ll talk later but you can upgrade that to the new AS3X+ plus also oh yeah that’s right that’s.

[00:36:21] The other new things we’re going to talk about sorry that’s right we’ll get to it okay I’m just.

[00:36:25] Saying you can actually get the whole new setup, which is kind of cool. So, yeah, big happy with there. Mm-hmm, yeah, so it was a, it was a good day of flying, and you also, tommy, got another airplane. Oh.

[00:36:39] Yeah, I got a. I got a night radian. Yeah, thanks dave. Yeah, no problem, yeah, flies awesome. Well now, it took me a while to get it trimmed. I’m not sure why I was having such trouble with it, but it flies beautifully now. So it was not one of my favorites. Yeah, I, it flies like yours does now. Yeah, which is hands off, without throttle. Trim it, yep, trim it with the throttle off and it just sits there and putts.

[00:37:02] Along it’s and the lights are cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we. Yours has the wing nut tech light controller and it also that dave put in for you. Yep, yep, thanks, dave.

[00:37:14] They do look really good with it like all the different shows you can play with them yeah.

[00:37:19] They’re pretty cool. I found the easiest one for me to see, though, is just the simple wing lights that are green and red, oh, and no other lights with no other lights on, and then just the. The flashing lights, yeah, and then the headlights and tail lights, but then just the.

[00:37:36] Flashing nav lights on the wings too. Yeah, that’s probably, although, like I said, I said mine have to just be solid red. Yeah, plus the red and green on tips, and that was that was pretty easy to see. I like the cylon one where the red went back and forth. Yeah, I know, I like that one too, but in certain positions it disappeared. It’s like I wish I had a little more light. Oh you, still.

[00:37:58] Need to put the headlights and tail lights and that’ll make a big difference yeah it’s got to.

[00:38:03] Have some sort of leading edge light, because I mean it just completely disappears. It does, and with certain curled up like they are, they disappear. Yep so but yeah, I got a new to me: airplane.

[00:38:14] Made and the double vision I guess we haven’t really talked much about the beast either no we.

[00:38:20] Have that’s that’s on my list of things for you to talk about too so what do you want to go for.

[00:38:24] First, well, we did a lot of maidens. We did well. So the week before the week of maidens, if I could say that, I took the beast out all by myself. I didn’t because, well, laurie was there, but well, yeah, she was there. But anyway, I, yeah, I didn’t want to crowd because I, to be honest, I mean this airplane was, I mean, I don’t want to say rebuilt, but it was pretty much rebuilt, like I would. I would say, and I had concerns about the, the gear, because there was just not a lot of material.

[00:39:00] In the fuselage left to work with, so I was a little bit worried about my gear repair, but in the end it was fine it’s. It’s got four, three or four flights on three, three flights on it. Now the maiden, the actual, or would that be a remade? Either way, it’s a maiden to you, so was very exciting, exciting. Yeah, so why was that, tommy? Well, do tell it’s, because I

[00:39:30] Did not do a proper, a proper pre-flight, and by proper pre-flight I mean stand behind the airplane, go through all the controls and make sure they’re going the correct directions. Gonna argue with you.

[00:39:43] On that one you can still do a proper pre-flight without standing behind it yeah but it’s easier.

[00:39:48] To get confused if you’re standing in front of it, like I did, understood. So I decided so I got the airplane fueled up, put together, fueled up, I fired it up- fired right up, by the way, a dla 111, and I had it on the hold back device and I thought, okay, I’m gonna go and do a range check, because we talked about this- it’s been a while back now when I decided that I was going to use the smaller batteries, still using two batteries, not just one, like I originally wanted to. But we

[00:40:20] Talked about doing a range check just to make sure, which I did, right. So it’s running, it’s idling against the stand. I walked 30 paces, whatever it is that spectrum says to do. I put the transmitter in range check mode, right, it reduces power, and I’m going through the controls and while now, granted, I’m kind of off into the side of the airplane, right, and there’s four ailerons, not just two.

[00:40:46] So I’m off to the side, 30 paces away, kind of in front of it, going through the controls and everything’s responding fine. The engine is not surging or anything like that. I’m not getting any stray signals right, it’s the. The range check is my focus. And then while I’m there I’m like, oh well, I just do the pre-flight here while I’m standing here going through the stuff, so I’m like, yep, right, left up down, yeah, right, or left right, okay, I’m good, just that quickly I went through the yeah and walked back to the airplane, put the, put the stand down and proceeded to taxi out and took off.

[00:41:22] With the ailerons reversed. Huh, yeah, that would yeah. And I knew immediately, like, as soon as the aircraft broke ground, I wanted to do kind of a gentle left turn to get it out over the beans, just in case anything happens. Yeah, what I’m saying: lose the motor or something, right, right, because, yeah, that airplane eats up a lot of real estate pretty quick. Even though it’s big and it looks like it’s slow, it’s actually moving at a pretty good, yeah, rate. So anyway, as soon as it broke,

[00:41:53] Ground I fed in a little bit of left aileron and it rolled to the right, or it I shouldn’t say rolled it- sort of banked a little because I was going very easy on the controls, first flight, right, yeah. So right off the bat I knew the ailerons were reversed. So knowing that, right off the bat you can, if you’ve been flying long enough, you can kind of reprogram your brain to do everything the opposite on your right hand, right, if you’ve been doing, it’s hard, it’s not easy, right, but it’s not. It’s not like

[00:42:25] Intuitive, but it can be done. Obviously, because I did it, I made it. I did two big loops with reversed ailerons, just trying to figure out what I wanted to do. Did I want to try it on yourself down exactly? Do I want to try to reverse the ailerons while it’s in the air or do I want to try to get it on the ground? Well, I’m not sure if I have the skill to fly reversed ailerons all in a pattern and get it on the ground in front of me safely. So I thought first. Thought is okay, I’ll get some altitude.

[00:42:55] Altitude and then I’ll, I’ll slow it down a little bit and then I’ll, I’ll just hold the transmitter up high enough to where I can kind of look at the airplane and I can throw it scroll through the, because you the airplane. Yes, the ix 14 is really super easy to get into that mode and reverse, especially the 14 because it’s so much faster than my 12, right? So that’s what I decided to do, right? Well, I, I do that and I get one aileron reversed and then I’m like: oh crap, there’s four ailerons. I have this thing set up on four separate channels, so that’s four reversing switches that I’m going to.

[00:43:29] Have to try to look at my menu and remember which one I’ve already. And so by now I’ve hit two of them and I like, even now I can’t tell you which two I reversed, but at some point I had all of the ailerons going the same direction. So I’d move the stick to the right, they would all go down. I’d move the stick to the left, they’d all go up or whatever. So it’s like okay, well, that’s not going to work well. So I it’s getting kind of low because I’m fiddling with the reversing and stuff and when I

[00:44:02] Say kind of low. It’s 75 feet or so, which is still pretty high, but for an airplane that big out over the corn, like a long ways from me, that’s a lot. That’s pretty low, yeah. So I’m at the point now where all four circles are going the same direction and I’m in a like a left hand bank kind of pointing down towards the corn and I’m like, oh, this ain’t good. So I holler at laurie. I’m like laurie, can we reverse these for me? And of course she has no idea, she’s never even held my ix 14, she doesn’t know.

[00:44:35] What to do. So then I’m like to myself, I’m thinking: well, that’s not going to work, just look down real quick, feed it some up elevator to get it going away from the ground. Look down real quick and see which two. And I thought reverse. And I got it back to being reversed, right, yeah. And then I’m like: okay, so I’m not going to be able to reverse four channels while this thing is flying, I’m just going to have to land it with reverse down runs. And that’s exactly what I did. Did you give yourself a nice long approach? I absolutely did. Yeah, in fact it was. I mean, it wasn’t you could. So we have trees and

[00:45:09] They’re probably what 800 ish feet away to like, if you’re standing looking at the field, I would say probably pretty close to that. Yeah, it wasn’t past them. So I was at least inside those trees when I made the turn to final, but not that was out there. But yeah, I wasn’t. That’s Reggie distances, I know, I know, but I wanted to get it set up as close as I could to the center line of the runway, right, so I would have to make minimal corrections once I got it settled and the thing landed beautifully like it was a. It was to the, to the far edge of the field, which is what you want. Yeah, but not to the ditch like.

[00:45:47] I still had plenty of room and it, like it actually touched down like directly in front of me. So, yeah, that was exciting, so I, he’s a superman. So I taxied it back, shut it off, took about 10 minutes to stop shaking because I was like, oh lori, thought I was having like a seizure or something. My hands were shaking. But yeah, I settled down, reversed the or corrected the ailerons and then took it up for another 15 ish minutes after that and flies. Great, yeah, yeah, the landing gear repair held up. Now I

[00:46:22] Haven’t, I didn’t, I haven’t bounced it or anything yet, which I’m sure is coming, but so far the gears hold up and my center wing mount structure held up to basic flight. So from here I’ll continue getting it trimmed and then I’ll start testing the add a little stress here. Yeah,

[00:46:44] I’ll start testing the integrity of the wing mounting system by some snaps and things.

[00:46:48] Like that. But yeah, it flies really good. I’m really happy it looks. Oh my gosh, it looks so nice in the air it does sounds good. It does sound good because it’s on pipes, it’s. It doesn’t have the factory mufflers, it’s got the tuned pipes on it and it really it’s. It’s nice and quiet. You can hear the prop over the motor, which is kind of cool. I like the sound of the prop ripping through there. I like that sound me too. So yeah, I’m very happy. The beast cool lives nice. So, yeah, and then the week after that was the night of maidens and we did a lot that night. Yeah, all of us. That’s awesome, that was.

[00:47:22] A fun night it was a lot of fun yeah and no stress whatsoever like I didn’t feel any no even with the.

[00:47:29] Airplanes I flew that were different than normal, yeah, yes. So what did you made? Well, so I, I did have an incident that I do not take as my fault. So I, I, the tower, harbor, tower, hobbies, piper, cherokee, oh yeah, that’s not. No, that’s not your fault. So, tricycle field, tricycle airplane: the our field, even though the grass was cut fairly short, is divity. Yeah, there’s lots of lots of divity. Yeah, I don’t.

[00:48:06] Dead spots in it yeah so smaller airplanes they have a little bit harder time which this is.

[00:48:13] 44, Maybe it’s a pretty small wingspan. Yeah, a 3s 2200, taxied it out and then went to take off. You stop before you go, you just kind of do one last check when you’re lined up. Went to take off full throttle. Just sat there like, oh, come on. So it had settled itself into a divot. So I ended up going out, moved it forward a foot or two and not in a divot, and I didn’t think it was going to take off. Like I don’t remember if you were watching that or not, but yeah, full throttle and that thing.

[00:48:44] Just took its time it was in no hurry whatsoever but I finally got it to break free yeah once I flew.

[00:48:50] Once I got out of the grass it accelerated and yeah pretty good I thought it’s a fun flying little.

[00:48:55] Airplane. That’ll be really fun at eli. Yeah, like no problems after I fix it now. But yeah, no problems with flight. I need to add a little expo to it because it’s a little twitchy, but other than that I mean it flew great. So I came in for my landing, which I thought was a pretty nice looking landing, nice approach, nice touchdown. As soon as the front wheel hit the ground it must have gotten caught in one of those wonderful divots and it flipped it over, did a tricycle okay, so that usually didn’t happen.

[00:49:28] With tricycles flipped over, landed on the, the rudder didn’t break anything on the airplane except for stripped the servo gears. So I don’t know if that happened when the rudder hit the ground or when probably then the front wheel hit the divot. Yeah, because the flip over was so violent that it.

[00:49:46] Actually got air under it and then it was landing speed, like it didn’t have a chance to slow down at all. But yeah, it was probably side loaded, the rudder and well, yeah, when it came down against the rudder, because the rudder’s the tip, well, and, like I said, it could have very well been.

[00:50:00] When the front nose wheel touched down, because that’s what stopped it like it was on the mains, and then when the nose wheel touched down, that’s what flipped it. If that hit a divot it could have just knocked that nose off to the side too, and that might be messed up. The gear caused it to flip too. A nice little metal gear in there. Yeah well, I mean it shouldn’t have to have a metal gear.

[00:50:22] For a plane like that. This is, unfortunately, one of those things to where now, I think small airplanes that have- I’m our field sucks at this point. I’m sorry, the local field here. I’m gonna be honest. It’s, yeah, it looks nice, but ever since they tried to fix it has just gotten eaten up and it’s, it’s not. It’s not conducive to planes smaller than 40 size. I agree, yeah, it’s, it’s probably the roughest I’ve seen it.

[00:50:55] For me ever so. Yep, yeah, larger planes don’t have an issue, but like even the other plane, one of the other planes that you made, even it had a little bit of an issue taken off, it just took.

[00:51:08] Forever. Oh yeah, so I talked about that one then. So I flew the sorry- no, that’s all right. The, the stinger 90 that I’ve had for a year or two. Now I finally got that. All that thing flies awesome. It flies really good. I love that thing, but I think the nose gear on it like I don’t know if it’s too, too light, like if there’s a spring missing, if there’s a way to tighten that up, but is and maybe you think maybe it’s the grass too, like I don’t know, I guess I ought to try and just set.

[00:51:40] It somewhere, like maybe add eli on the actual field, when these happens, you need to shim the gear. That’s what I think needs to happen, like where the gear is mounted. Put a quarter inch or something underneath the gear to raise the nose a little bit. I think that’s what would help. You think so because see like, when- when it gets- of course I wasn’t watching- does it, does the, does it collapse? Yes,

[00:52:01] Oh, absolutely all the way down. It might need a strong got a trailing like those gear on it. Yeah, yeah, my f15 is like that. I had to change the springs out to a stiffer spring, so maybe that’s.

[00:52:10] All it is, and that might help, but I mean, that was the first time I flew it too, so I didn’t know if that’s how it’s supposed to be, if it’s just the field we have, but anyway, so take off on that. The rollout was a little bit longer than I would have preferred also, but your first takeoff was without flaps, true?

[00:52:27] Going back to my previous experience with the f18, I was like I knew I had plenty of runway, like that part didn’t bother me. But since it was sitting with that nose gear folded, it was sitting at such a down like you, you weren’t going to get enough lift from the wings the way it was sitting. No one for a negative incidence, right. So it’s pushing it down onto the ground. So I was very paranoid to just give it too much elevator to make it break ground because I didn’t want to stall like that f18 did.

[00:52:59] Right, but I ended up getting the nose up enough to where it was getting air underneath it took off. I stayed low for a little bit to get more speed built up, and that thing does. I mean it.

[00:53:10] Flies. It flies really good. I enjoy that airplane like I was. It looks like to me I didn’t fly, but it looks to me like it flies a lot like the viper. Yeah, yeah, which also maybe went a little bit slower.

[00:53:21] Yeah, okay. Yeah, the viper is pretty quick. It is, but the like. I took it out because it’s in my way like it was one of those where I was like all right, what, this is the night if I crash.

[00:53:34] It I don’t care it’s out of my way that makes me sad because that’s it’s such a good flying airplane.

[00:53:39] Well, I didn’t know that at first, I did. I told you so how you haven’t flown it, though I’ve seen them fly but anyway. So yes, now that I have flown it, I like the way it flies. I ended up throwing one of the old ar636 AS3X+ receivers I had in it. Got that all set up by flashing it and stuff, so it was bone stock. If, yep, and I mean it, how are the settings? You feel the need to mess with them?

[00:54:09] At all. So I need to turn the gain down just a hair, but not enough to where it’s going to prevent me from flying it the way. It is cool, like if you were doing like an aileron roll and stopped as soon as you stopped. There was just a little bit of twitchiness, okay, but that was it. I mean like normal flight, it was fine, it didn’t have any problem and it’s got a good roll rate, like it rolls nicely. Yeah, I don’t know what the throws are supposed to be on there, so it’s like max throws. That’s probably what they’re supposed to be. It flew fine, so I can’t say anything about it. No, I’m

[00:54:41] I’m yeah I like that airplane I think it looks good the red and white it shows up good in.

[00:54:46] The air and it looks like it flies really nice I don’t want to like that airplane like.

[00:54:52] Honestly that is the one I don’t know dave sounds to me like he’s trying to get rid of it.

[00:54:57] He needs to make more room. You already got rid of the smaller one. I like it, though, so I don’t know if I want to get rid of it now. Like I said, I fully had it in my mind that I’m getting rid of this. All right, once again, like said, if it crashes I don’t care, that’s good, I have room to store something else. But then it just turned out to be a good airplane. It is a good airplane. Who makes that?

[00:55:15] One free wing no is it free I think so okay yeah flies nice free wing does some nice stuff they.

[00:55:22] Do? That’s my first that I can remember free wing airplane and oddly enough, I bought that to practice for the jet and we flew it and the jet has more flights than the phone, yes, which that’s okay. That’s only because of batteries. I mean it’s a pain. Three minute flights on a battery that takes. That’s the downside. Yeah, to those I’ll probably need to get.

[00:55:48] Which is kind of what makes the conversion look kind of appealing oh until you see the price of.

[00:55:54] The conversion there’s that, then it’s not appealing, right? But so what else did you made? I also made. This is another airplane that I wasn’t sure if I was going to actually fly or just get rid of I’ve. I bought it at jonal and as soon as I bought it, I regretted buying it. And as soon as I had to deal with the box and get it home, I regretted even more. As soon as I got home and had to find a place to store the box, I regretted it. As soon as crystal saw the box even more. Yes, that was another.

[00:56:30] Regret, regret, regret. So I thought it had been flown before, so, but it was still put in the box and I was like, all right, I’m just going to put it together, fly it once and then get rid of it.

[00:56:43] Damn don’t do that like and what is it so okay you’re right so this is the e-flight ec 1500 the.

[00:56:52] Like, I got rid of the twin timber because it had the dual nacelles with the dual motors and all that stuff. They’re hard to store. Got rid of that one because it was too big, bought this one, which is even bigger because the fuselage. I’m here to tell you, though, that ec 1500.

[00:57:12] Tommy’s opinion flies way better than that twin timber I agree twin timber is kind of.

[00:57:18] Yeah, I agree, and that’s why I got rid of it. I don’t regret getting rid of the ec 1500. Like you, let me fly it and what a hoot. It’s fun, it’s so much fun. You can hover with an ec 1500 like you shouldn’t be able to hover with a military cargo plane- hovering cargo plane, I know. But even if you,

[00:57:37] Choose not to fly that way. Yeah, it is still a blast. It’s a good. It rolls really good. The rudder is extremely effective, especially like: did you tinker with the differential thrust at all? Because you can do that too. I know I have not done that yet. That thing is gonna like, once you get like, if you fly it enough and get really comfortable, that thing is going to do such.

[00:57:58] Awesome flat spins, the flat spins like the, the ultraxes do. Yeah, exactly, it’s. Yeah. It’s unfortunate that I like it as much as I did, because that was, like I said, one I planned on getting rid of, but

[00:58:09] Now I’m, you got a really good deal on that. I think, yeah, I would have the deal at joan all. Yeah, those were. That was a really good deal. So I’m keeping it because.

[00:58:19] I actually got rid of the boxes already. Yep, they’re gone. Yep, I have nowhere to put it back into, to get rid of. So yeah, and I mean really it, it stores nicely for what it is. Yeah, the, the cargo door is kind.

[00:58:34] Of neat. Well, yeah, I mean for like. So, for example, next year, it okay, I’m good. I told you next slim next year like rc fest you could do like a candy drop or something like that.

[00:58:49] With the kids or I mean not for that but one piece at a time I don’t think yeah you could fit.

[00:58:54] A small handful of like jolly ranchers or something but anyway yeah that thing that thing’s a hoot to.

[00:59:01] Fly. It’s pretty fast and it slows down really well with the flags too. So I flew it on a 4s 3200. You can actually fly it on a 3s. It says like I’m not sure that would be as much fun, it would be more scale it would, and I bet it would still fly okay, like I wonder. It says 3s 32 or 3400 is what they recommend as the base. Wonder what it would fly like on a 3s 2200, because I have plenty of those to

[00:59:29] Try. I mean, might both try just to see. Yeah, even if it’s- and it has so much power, I mean granted 4s, yeah, like it had zero issues with the field. Oh, I know, that was the other thing. It was like what?

[00:59:42] Seven feet and it was in the air. I mean, yeah, it had no problems whatsoever with all the divots and stuff. And the other thing that’s cool is the lights that are on it, very bright, bright, and it has the, the tail light, the clear tail light that’s on it, and I just I love that when it has a beacon on top.

[00:59:58] The red flashing beacon that I didn’t notice until we were flying it’s like yeah dude it’s got a.

[01:00:02] Beacon on it. That’s awesome. So, yeah, yeah it’s. I mean I wanted to not like it, but I like it. So, yeah, that’s another one that will be staying in the hangar for a while. Good, I’m glad because that one.

[01:00:12] Looks like a well I mean it is a blast to fly thanks for letting me fly yeah only come up with a.

[01:00:17] Four engine version wouldn’t that be cool I think I’ve seen somebody do a conversion on it oh yeah until.

[01:00:23] It’s time to store it yeah there’s that but yeah and that’s one that’s big enough to where it has to.

[01:00:29] Be taken apart in the car yeah good sized airplane it’s yeah it’s bigger than it looks.

[01:00:38] But it’s, it’s weird. It flies like a really lightweight, it almost flies like a umx, almost the way you can toss it around, I think. So I mean, I don’t know if I’d go that far, but

[01:00:48] It is agile. How’s that? For what it is like? I would not expect that airplane to be as agile as it is. Yeah, I agree. So that was my. I think that was all my maidens. I took a few other airplanes to fly, flew them, went through a bunch of batteries, did my little dlg a few times. Oh, that’s right. Okay, it wasn’t a maiden.

[01:01:07] I was thinking you had another one. But yeah, the dlg. You’ve flown that before, so flew that here. This was the first time at a field. Yeah, so there’s a lot of there’s video of you flying the dlg on our facebook page, so you did post that. Check out Ron’s technique. Looks pretty good. Actually, I was not.

[01:01:24] Dressed for a video so I was not planning on that at all but whatever sorry that’s okay I thought.

[01:01:29] It was interesting because I had really never seen a launch before so well I don’t know if I’m.

[01:01:35] Doing it right, but got it in the air, so that’s all that matters. I think that’s probably needs to watch the olympics. Awesome, yeah, that’s coming up. And then, daniel, yeah, you didn’t have any, or maidens, did you? Dave? It was the f4. Oh god, I think I blocked that one out of my mind. Oh my gosh.

[01:01:54] That thing flies it’s so pretty oh man does it fly as good as it is as it did yeah like you didn’t let.

[01:02:00] Me fly it but yeah it flies great way better than mine ever did so discuss what happened to it and all.

[01:02:07] That stuff. I’m gonna go ahead and just leave. So this is the f4 that Ron destroyed for me when he- man, I don’t know- launched it, yeah, into the ground. But anyway, yeah, this is the one that dave rebuilt and man does it look good. It looks like a full-size one at thousand feet- it does, I mean it- and still looks as solid as it used to. Yeah, it flies great, look good, looks real good. I’m happy that it flies as good for you as it did for me, because- and I completely guessed at the throws-

[01:02:36] Because I can’t find throws anywhere in my documentation so we did a good job guessing.

[01:02:40] It seems yeah it seemed like it was pretty good maybe next time you’ll let me fly it absolutely.

[01:02:45] Okay it’s I don’t know who’s gonna launch it for you though but yeah not you looking there but not me.

[01:02:50] No, no see, that’s the one thing that dave did modify. Instead of putting the retractable hand holding thing, he just put a fixed piece of plywood. So now I think it’s kind of scared. Just about anybody could- just about just about anybody- not me- could launch it. Now I’m not even gonna try it.

[01:03:09] On the plus side the skeg also keeps the tips of the wings out of the grass I like it yeah that.

[01:03:15] See that retractable one. Just there was something just off about it. It stayed in my hand, for god’s sakes okay. So I don’t think I can take that much. No, I can take all the blame it was, but I will still.

[01:03:29] But no, that went fairly smooth after you got it trimmed. Yeah, I got a couple flights on the auto gyro and that scared myself too bad. No, that thing looks like you’re, you’re getting more comfortable. It’s weird. Yeah, it’s. Yeah, it sounds cool. It does it sounds cool. It looks cool, but it just looks it’s weird. It’s weird. Yeah, right up your alley. It’s a different. I like weird that flies normal. This is weird. That doesn’t fly, that flies, yeah, fly, it’s weird, that flies weird. Yeah, it looks it looks cool though. Yeah, I agree, and that’s the hobby king one. Right, that’s not okay. Yeah, okay, cool, and then.

[01:04:02] Daniel actually made the cub and then had the great plains cub. I can’t remember what size it is. It’s kind of: is it the 60 size? It’s the 60 size cub, okay, but I don’t know what scale it really is. It’s not fifth scale, it’s not quarter, it’s like a little bigger than fifth, but not quite quarter it. Anyway, if it’s a cub, it flies like a gas, like I didn’t realize that and like he didn’t realize.

[01:04:29] That when he bought it yeah has one of the evolution 15 cc gassers right 15 or the 8 15 okay yeah.

[01:04:36] Yeah those were supposed to be good running engines I never had one seemed like a run pretty.

[01:04:40] Good. Yeah, it’s good. It’s a little cranky to start, but when it runs it’s fine. That 8 cc one was cranky to start too, the one they put on the bus down. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Probably. Yeah, they don’t like to hand flip, they refer to the starter. Yeah, just for the speed. Yeah, but once it fires it’s fine. Yeah, but you made that for him right. I did the takeoff and then handed it off because, oh, it’s a cub, it’s a cub. Yeah, it’s like. Here you go, a couple trip clicks of trim, nothing major. Not bad for an 80 airplane? Yeah, no doubt. And then on the. Was that the?

[01:05:14] Second flight. That he the second flight. He had a little boo-boo with it. Yeah, I think it was just too slow. I think, yeah, cubs are weird. I mean, like cubs, you have to fly them on the ground. I think he, he horsed it off. He didn’t. Yeah, he didn’t let it roll. I think long enough and, yeah, not enough air.

[01:05:29] Speed and it tip stalled and which it rolled to the right which is unusual they usually roll to the.

[01:05:34] Left no it went to the left oh it did yeah because he was taken off away from us and it ended up.

[01:05:39] Maybe because I saw about I didn’t see the crash I just saw the bounce after the crash so.

[01:05:44] I didn’t see the crash either, because I was flying. Yeah, the tail never really came up, like it. It left the ground at that same angle that it was rolling at and almost as soon as it broke ground, I just did one of these and then hit the wingtip and, yeah, he horsed it, drove the nose and then, yeah, was he? Full throttle? Could you hear? It sounded like full throttle. Yeah, it’s not overpowered, but it’s not right. I mean it’s cub? Yeah, it’s not. It’s not a easily fixable, though right, he said.

[01:06:12] I believe it is fixed already done a picture the other day wanting to know if the engine should be.

[01:06:16] Off to the right. It’s like well, yeah, yeah, yeah, a couple degrees, yeah, so, yeah. So I’m not surprised dan’s pretty, daniel’s pretty quick about well, yeah, he doesn’t like broken airplanes hanging around.

[01:06:25] Either, and it was not bad. Like for the sound that it made. I was expecting a lot worse, yeah, but oh, it made a horrendous sound. Yeah, yeah, but if you were watching it’s a sound you would: yeah, well, I was flying so I didn’t get to it pulled. So of course, I’m flying and you’re like, okay, I’m watching my airplane, watching my airplane crash. I’m like, look away for a minute. What happened? Where’d it go?

[01:06:44] Thumping quiet yeah but yeah just what pulled the blocks out of the wing for the struts.

[01:06:49] One of the struts pulled out of the wing. Yeah, and it looks like a giant dowel. Yeah, it’s just. I think that’s exactly what it is. Yeah, just go poxy it back in half-inch dowel. And then he knocked the firewall out of it, so no biggie. Yeah, peace cake done. Before I refly it, I’ll give it a good twisting and good yank. Yeah, see, if the motor stays on. Tug on stuff, twist the wing. Yeah, that was a lot of a lot.

[01:07:12] Of maidens that night. That was a lot of fun. Oh, and then I made in the double vision. Oh, how’d that go? I forgot about that one. I love that airplane. Yeah, oh my gosh, from the first, like two seconds of flight. From the second I saw I just fell in love that it was. Yeah, it’s awesome. I have too much work, by the way, for me to put together much less work for the double vision than it is for the bees, like you see how I store the wings on the double vision right. Yeah, it actually goes for a biplane with.

[01:07:42] Four aileron servos. It goes together pretty quick, I think, for that size of an airplane. So how do you store the wings on it? So I pull them off in pairs like: so I’ll pull the two because I leave the

[01:07:55] Combine interplane or the cabane. One of the cabane is the center. I leave the interplane struts attached to the wing panels and then I pull off one complete side at a time and then, when I have them off, slide the wing tube back in them and I store them as if they were still one piece attached to the plane. Yes, they take up a lot of space that way, but the assembly is much quicker that way. Yeah,

[01:08:20] Triplanes that way too I leave top wing and middle wing together same idea yep this one has.

[01:08:27] Dle 55 ra on it, so you’ll be familiar with that. You could also get a auto start on it, all right, I don’t know if I want the extra weight, I’m just saying you could. Yeah, just in theory you could. But man, this thing flies good. It needs a muffler, so I think I may. I may put a pipe on this one, kind of like what the pipes on the on the beast. What’s on that one, by the way?

[01:08:49] Muffler wise, it’s the factory dle muffler, really that, oh man, yeah, that sucks. That’s what I have on that. I don’t want it that loud, it’s crazy loud. Yeah, that’s what that was. That’s the brand new dle 55. I got from brian what two, three years ago? That sucks, okay, yep. Well, let me know what you.

[01:09:08] Do on yours, because I might have to do the same. Well, actually, no, I’m not going to do a can. Why not? Well, because I want the bottom to be able to open. Well, just run it off to the side a little bit.

[01:09:18] We’ll see. I still want to do a candy drop. Luckily for me, the double vision has a tunnel built into the bottom of the fuselage, so I can. It’ll still be on the outside, but it’ll be tucked up, that’s.

[01:09:28] Probably what it’s made for I mean like to have an actual can put on it to make it look nice and it is.

[01:09:33] But it flies it flies really I was comfortable immediately with it like it was.

[01:09:39] A little bit of nerves for the takeoff. But, like once I made the first turn I was like: oh yeah, this thing’s, this thing’s fine until you can tell your story. Oh yeah, yeah, that’s weird. So I think I must have had the idle a little bit too low. So on the second or third flight- I guess it was whichever second one, I guess, because the third and fourth followed- yeah, I took it up and was doing some stall type stuff just to kind of see what it was going to do, and it stalls.

[01:10:10] Beautifully like. It just mushes like a sport plane, like a good sport plane. It’s probably why I like it so much, because I like sport anyway. Once I was comfortable with that I thought I’ll see what, see if I can get it to do a flat spin. So I got it. I got it up there, got it stalled and got it just as it started turning to start flattening out. The engine died kind of, had it at idle. So I’m like, well, that’s not good brand new airplane whoopsie. Yeah, luckily I had plenty of altitude and I probably could have turned sooner and sharper, but I was so worried about stalling it.

[01:10:48] And hitting the runway, because runway’s hard. Yeah, I, I kind of widened out the turn, flattened it out and put it in the beans- oops, flattened it out and put it in the beans- which zero damage whatsoever. But yeah, not, not. Yeah, it wasn’t bad at all, not proud of that. But well, I mean you did better than yeah, I got it down on one piece, there’s no damage to it. Yeah, so even the wheel pants were fine, because I

[01:11:13] Checked them when I got home and not even a crack on them so yeah so I got lucky it was slow I mean.

[01:11:18] Like it went in very slow. Well, and I think that’s probably why I was okay with putting it in the beans, because I had already stalled it in the air and knew that it was going to be pretty uneventful if

[01:11:30] It did happen to stall so yeah I was okay with flattening it out and just letting it settle in the.

[01:11:35] Beans. Yeah, it worked out well, nice and soft. Trying to find something. Sorry, okay, but yeah, that was it was. That was it right, I think, for maidens? I think so because, yeah, we flew some other stuff, but

[01:11:52] I think that was it, for, yeah, I pulled a Reggie and flew into myself. You did, I didn’t hear. You missed that. I missed that too, but what was I doing? You were flying, I think hi, yeah, what was he doing?

[01:12:05] I’ll let you tell the shadow seeker the shadow see her yeah -huh it’s kind of hard for me to.

[01:12:12] Toss and not fall over. I found out because he’s got one leg. I think I know what happened. Yeah, I think I heard it, but I didn’t see it. I have found out that I can set it up on its tail fin and if I push forward on the stick and give it enough throttle, just jam the throttle, it just launches straight up off the ground like a rocket ship and then flies away. Most times, most of the time. Well, you got to make sure that it leans ever so slightly away from you because with the battery it actually wants to fall backwards. So when this one started coming off the ground, it fell backwards.

[01:12:46] And flew directly at me. It’s a pusher, so it is. It’s a pusher, it’s no big deal. It didn’t hurt, but it did. It did fly directly into you. There was nothing I could do with it. It’s just like I’m going to eat this.

[01:13:01] That’s awesome and I apologize if I laughed when it happened, but it was pretty funny because you were confident that, oh, watch this, just set it down on its fin, watch this, okay, I can’t wait to see.

[01:13:15] Ouch and every launch since then has been dead perfect yeah but that one where tommy was.

[01:13:20] Watching. I think actually, tommy is the one that set it down for him, so it’s my fault. That’s what I was going like. Yeah, seven, it’s definitely not a fast airplane, but it does look really good. It’s got a lot of lights on it. It’s very bright, very solid. Yep, I’ll have to get something similar, I think.

[01:13:52] I’m used to the one- yeah, I was gonna say I think I’m used to the sounds of like the assassins and the wings and stuff at joan all where they are just booking it at that pitch, right, and then you hear the pitch on dave and daniels as they fly by and it’s like you start to look at it. And then you look past it you’re like wait, it’s not going that fast. Yeah, I’m looking: 35 mile an hour. Yeah, yeah, first gear, yeah, yeah, but no good airplanes, they seem to be fine, easy to launch. These guys have

[01:14:19] The launches: yeah, right, and yourself. Yeah, daniel got it right away, it looked like. So, yeah, yeah, so, anyway, the night of maidens was seven maidens, I think it was. We counted between all of us. Yeah, I got it all done before dark. Yeah, yeah, and then it was night flying after that, which I love, night.

[01:14:37] Flying. We’ve been doing a lot more than yeah. I actually got the shiny out again and flew that several times. That’s such a good flying. It’s a great airplane. Yeah, any hints about night flying?

[01:14:47] For the guys: just do it, just do it. Yeah, just get an airplane with a few lights, that with a lot of lights, orientation, and just do it. You haven’t, it’s a lot of fun. I’m trying to think you’re start.

[01:14:59] Before dark: right, work up to dark. Yeah, yeah, start around dusk. Yeah, your, was that the vamana that you put lights in. Have you found that in dark, dark yet? Oh, that’s right, I was there, wasn’t I? Yeah, it was.

[01:15:14] The night. I remember that one. Yeah, that was the night of the beast maiden. Yeah, you guys showed that was that first night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it needs nav lights. It needs, you need something. You can see it easy enough, that’s no problem. It looks very cool in certain, yeah, in certain positions it looks really, really cool, but in some positions it completely disappears, yeah. So, yeah, I need to, I need to get some lights on the leading edges. I think somehow I was gonna say that kind of makes sense because it’s

[01:15:38] You’re lit up and down so when it’s coming right at you there’s nothing that you’re gonna see yeah.

[01:15:43] But you can see it from behind, like if it’s going away from. Yeah, there’s enough taper in the wings. You can see the light, but I was gonna say you have the wing taper on- yeah, there’s. So I need to put something on the leading edges. I will eventually- yeah, probably- do something similar to what we’re doing on the radians. Remind me, I’ve got leds I can give you if you want, okay. So, yeah, cool night flying, go do it.

[01:16:06] It’s a lot of fun. All right, two more things I want to talk about, if I can, unless you want to say anything else on that. Nope, that was it okay. So last week I talked about the truck charger question. Last two weeks- okay, two weeks ago I talked about the truck charger question. Oh yeah, and ask the question of the listeners. I got many responses, oh good deal, most of which were nice, some of which pretty much called me a dummy. No, because you’re not. I over complicate things. 150 Watts makes sense to me. That 150 watts with

[01:16:40] Volts and amps and all that kind of stuff. You can divide it out to figure out how many amps you can charge your 3s battery at. I’m cool with that. But I was trying to add the level of complication to. Somehow we’re going from 110 volts at 150 amp or 150 watts to how do I convert that over? Well, it doesn’t matter, it’s 150 watts, is what is out of that? So if you’re charging a 3s battery or whatnot, you can go up like 8 amps or something like that and it will work just fine. The higher the voltage.

[01:17:11] Battery obviously the less amps you can charge so I’m yeah thank you for the nice responses.

[01:17:19] Thank you for the not so nice responses I appreciate we like those yeah no I mean.

[01:17:24] I’m, I’m okay with it, like I tell me I’m, I have broad shoulders, I can take it, but yeah, so that’s that. That’s the gist of it. And I also did find out by trial and error that if I do put too many amps into a battery in the truck, it resets itself, like it just turns off and turns right back on. Oh, which is nice, because then you hear the charger beep and hey, wait a minute. Hey, something’s going on. Yeah, I’m gonna go turn that down now. So, cool, no harm, no foul. It was easy, good deal and appreciate.

[01:17:59] The feedback most of you. Anyway, yeah, it’s. It’s great that you can. You can charge your batteries from with the truck running in the pits. It’s a pain that it runs. I’m hearing. Yeah, we love listening to.

[01:18:13] That well what. We don’t have electricity there, so we got to make up for it somehow. I’m not sure a generator would be better. Honestly, it’s going to be a higher pitch, yeah, although maybe the generator could be put further away. Daniel’s done his with the trailer we just put.

[01:18:28] The generator behind the trailer you don’t even hear it well then maybe daniel needs to bring his.

[01:18:32] Next time I’ll bring the fuel. He brings the generator I thought about. Or maybe you just need to buy your own trailer. I’m trying. Trust me, my god, I’ve pushed crystal so hard on that. I it’s. He’ll be living in the trailer if he pushes. Yes, and I’m probably fine with that, as long as I put air conditioning in, and that’s okay with me. I’ll sleep with my airplanes. I’m gonna say my true loves, but that’s not true. Yeah, you shouldn’t say that, I shouldn’t, so I won’t. So what was the other thing? So the last thing I want to talk about was the big spectrum firmware update. Yes,

[01:19:09] It’s kind of a big deal. Tommy hasn’t updated his yet. Well, I am the only one that really doesn’t get anything out of it. But mine is completely up to date. So I’m off tomorrow and my plan.

[01:19:21] Was actually to go downstairs turn my transmitter on and download the firmware update you do that with your.

[01:19:29] Wi-fi or you have to have your computer running. No, it’s so easy. It’s just like updating an app on your phone. It took me like less than a minute. I’m sure it will take no time at all, but I just

[01:19:39] But it’s nice. No, I get it. Do it. So they. I get the big. I’m sorry, I get the big, the big. Pay increase, if you will. I go from 14 to 20 channels. So I’m going to be honest. If you look at the lineup,

[01:19:52] On all spectrum’s radios and look what they got, look at price points, look at all that kind of stuff. The sweet spot to be in is an nx8 or an ix14. Yeah, I agree, because at this point your radio can do everything that mine can do, minus the fancy gimbals. Well, again, I don’t want to give those up, but I’m saying functionality wise. I can’t do that with the ix14. It can do everything mine can do at 1100 less, I think. Yeah, roughly, yeah, I guess I guess you’re right. Yeah, it is, but sorry, so they.

[01:20:31] Gave no don’t be sorry I’m still like I do not regret your screen’s bigger I know and you have.

[01:20:36] The fancy gimbals yeah and your transmitter is a little heavier if that’s important they’re getting.

[01:20:41] Heavy- yeah, mine is still pretty light. My, my ix14. I’m gonna be honest, my ix20 feels really good in my hand, like I’m so used to the, the feel of that, the size of it. I don’t think I want to go back to anything else. It would feel toyish. Well, you wanted to say toy, I did, but I wasn’t going to. I was going to say it would feel not as refined, which is a nice way of saying toyish, right? So they updated the nx7e, nx6, nx8, nx10, nx10 se, nx20, the ix14 and the ix20 and ix20 se, like said, out of all of them.

[01:21:25] The ix20 se, which is what I have got the least updates, but that’s okay. I might sound butthurt about it, but I’m not. It’s all. See. No, actually, here’s the thing. Anything that’s on this that we are given now great as a bonus, like I was not expecting any of it when we got it. It just so happens that my bonus was bigger. You were not expecting to have a 20 channel transmitter- not at all- when you bought.

[01:21:50] That three, four months ago, whenever it was. So, what has motivated this act of kindness? Well, I don’t know. There’s no profit involved in this. Well, I would say that I would say that they’re constantly.

[01:22:03] Improving their products in the interest of selling more products. So if you, if you make an existing product better and then, shortly down the road, discontinue that product and produce another product with those features, it makes sense financially to do that. I’m not following, yeah. So let’s make the ix14s more capable right for free, not charge our customers anything for doing this, and let’s let them play with those new features for a while and then let’s discontinue the ix14.

[01:22:36] And it’s like, oh, you want those features. Well, buy you this and make something else later. Let’s call it an ax8 or an ix18 with 30 channels or whatever. Do what I’m saying. No, I don’t follow that.

[01:22:47] Like I? I see what you’re trying to say. Are they using it maybe like a beta to see how this works out? See, I don’t think so. I don’t like. I think I didn’t take it that way. This is a real yeah, this is a final launch of this. Is what you can do now with these which or maybe they’re trying to give people more.

[01:23:05] For their money to make up because there are options now where they can get similar performance.

[01:23:12] For a lot less money sky radio master etc exactly maybe also it’s just a logical next step that could.

[01:23:19] Be too I mean there’s a time where it’s we can now do this so let’s do this I mean I don’t.

[01:23:26] Know I don’t know what yeah not complaining about it’s great but just wonder what the motivation is.

[01:23:32] I don’t know I’m happy about it cpi that’s what we call it at work continuous process improvement oh.

[01:23:40] I’ve heard it’s continuous improvement. I didn’t realize that. Yeah, p no, but anyway, so you are now 20 channels. The nx- well, not yet, I will be tomorrow. Well, okay, but you have that ability. The nx7 is now up to 14 channels. Yeah, I think that’s the only one that’s 14, right, because the nx8, actually the 8, actually the, the nx6 might also be, oh, 14 channels. I don’t know, that’s a lot of channels on a six channel.

[01:24:12] Radio, yeah, yeah. And then the nx8 plus. No, the nx8 went to 20 channels. Everything above that is 20 channels. So they did. They are selling now the nx8 plus and the nx7e plus. All the plus means is it already has that firmware loaded onto it, and I think the nx8 plus has a little bit bigger battery, like 200 milliamp hours, but other than that same radio. So that’s cool on the transmitter side.

[01:24:42] There’s also updates now where they’re moving to AS3X+ plus on all of- I shouldn’t say all on a lot of their air receivers. So the old ar630, ar631, the ar637, ta, ar637t, ar8350 t or 8360t and the ar10360t, which is the safe, big, safe receiver, those all get the cool little AS3X+ plus added to it. So my

[01:25:20] Jet has a x3s, blood or plus on it, it’s very easy to program with forward programming, with initial setup, with all that kind of stuff. I was so when I, when I went through that and did that on the jet, I honestly didn’t think I did it right, because it was so simple, I mean like there’s not much to it. You, you go in, you have to like on the bigger ones, you have to tell, like the bigger airplanes, you have to tell it how you have it set up, like what actual direction, how you have the, the gyro in it, if you.

[01:25:55] Have a smaller airplane you can pick up- which I could have done on a jet too, but I didn’t want to because you got to pick it up. You literally pick it up and you it tells you hold it down, hold it to the side or whatever, and then it knows the orientation based on like two measurements. So it learns its center. Yeah, it learns itself based on how you tilt it. The other thing that it has, that I really thought was kind of neat and I don’t remember what it was called, but there’s an option in there under the, the setup, to check your throws to make sure corrections are correct.

[01:26:29] To make sure it’s correcting in the correct way. And what that does is it turns up like the gain: the gain to as high as it will go. So you can clearly see the direction. Yeah, yeah, so you take your wing. Yeah, yeah, you take your wing and you raise it up six inches and then it goes to full deflection. Trying to fix that, so you can very easily and quickly see: okay, that’s set up correctly.

[01:26:54] My correct direction. Yeah, if you change the, the tail will, we’ll do the same thing and everything else do so. No more sitting in my office chair and spinning mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean because.

[01:27:05] Before to check. I mean you’d have to. You’d have to do this again, exactly like that’s what I had to do on the, on that singer 90, and it was, I’m gonna be honest, kind of a pain because it moves so fast that you’re you’re trying to see it while you’re doing it fast and it’s difficult and it doesn’t move a lot, which it’s not supposed to, but when you’re trying to eye it up, it’s kind of a yeah, interesting. That’s a cool feature. I like that feature. The other thing: now they all have nose, hold the, the steering.

[01:27:36] Like heading hold or heading hold, yeah, for the, for the steering wheel, which is nice because it keeps you straight on the on the tarmac when you’re taking off. I’m trying to think what else what?

[01:27:50] Taking the pilot out of the equation. Well, you can turn it off. I have jailbraked all my AS3X+ receivers and turned everything off. Well, yeah, you can do that, but I’m just teasing, I’m just yeah.

[01:28:04] Because that’s inevitably going to be the argument that you’re going to hear from somebody out. They’re saying: oh well, geez, what do you even need? An airplane floor just flies itself and blah, blah, blah. It’s like: well, I like AS3X+ myself. I love this. It smooths out the bumps, just like what? Yeah, like your shocks, how they described it to you. So you’re taking the rough air out. Yeah, so yeah, and I’m

[01:28:29] Not going to get into AS3X+ plus over the AS3X+ because I really don’t know all the differences in it. But I know there’s a few extra settings in there that you can change that make it behave better, like quicker, but different parameters and stuff. It works great on the jet. So I’ve seen like mb339s fly without any kind of stabilization and they just don’t look locked in mine. The way it was set up, I mean it’s like it’s on rails, it flies so good. Sorry, but it does. But there’s

[01:29:04] A lot of different things like the nx transmitters get. I don’t know just by reading them what a lot of them mean, so you can look that up on your own. Ix got a bunch of updates. Also one of the things that it says that has that- I’m not sure what it is either- updated the handling of turbine off condition status. Yeah, I don’t know what that was either. I don’t know either, but I mean, sounds fun. I have a turbine. It’s good to know. That’s added. I guess I have no idea, but yeah, so there’s, there’s a lot.

[01:29:38] Of things. Look it up. If you haven’t downloaded it yet, download it, go play with it. It was easy for me to download with the ix series. It’s just updating an app and yeah, but all of our- except for dave because he’s way old on transmitters- but all of our current transmitters just got a major upgrade and they’re a lot smarter and a lot more channels. Now the only problem I see- naming convention is.

[01:30:03] Way off ix. Yeah, ix 14 is a 20 channel, ix 20 is a 20 channel and x8 is a 20 channel and x7 is a 14.

[01:30:15] Channel yeah and x10 is a 20 channel so I mean I don’t know how that will bear out in the.

[01:30:24] Long run yeah but who knows sad kind of to see that the ix 12 didn’t get any love that’s so old.

[01:30:33] Though I know I mean that’s that’s the problem, I know. But although I mean we got the latest update where we can do the forward programming and stuff, that’s true with the oh, what was it? The AS3X+ plus programming can be done on it. It just didn’t get the extra channels which is

[01:30:51] Fine I mean that I don’t use mine you’re gonna seldom use that many channels but it’s good to.

[01:30:57] Have the option it’s nice that they’re there yeah I mean that new hanger 9 broncos.

[01:31:04] That’s 10 servos plus two more. For if you double two more, for what? Well, for each throttle, right, because that’s not a servo, right? So that’s 12 plus gear 13.. He’s got drop tags. Plus. You’re going to use a separate steering servo channel, probably? Oh, yeah, so that would be well. No, that’s still going to be your 10 servos if you put each one. Oh, I guess that’s not true. That’s true. So yeah, but yeah, I don’t know. So that was exciting. Lots of updates. Go look it up, figure it out, do it. I will download mine tomorrow.

[01:31:39] That’s what you say. We’ll see. If I get home early enough tonight, I’ll do it tonight. It takes five minutes, okay, well, that’s all I got. That’s all I got. Too dave, I’m good- not a bad episode- for not having anything to talk about here. It is an hour and a half. Yeah, we’ll see, all right. Well, until next.

[01:31:58] Time I’m Ron I’m Tom and I’m dave thanks for listening good night how do we I don’t know how.

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