Ep 87: What’s your number?

[00:00:05] Hello, everyone, and welcome to the RC Plane Lab podcast. I'm Ron. I'm Tom. Today, we're going to talk about what's your number?

[00:00:11] What's your number?

[00:00:12] Well, I don't know. I don't want to say it. Yeah, but what's your number? That's our talk.

[00:00:16] That's what we're going to talk about.

[00:00:17] So last time when we had the wives on, happy 2022, by the way. This is our first time recording just us for this year. It seems so weird to, like, write that date down.

[00:00:29] It seems like that every year, like early in the year, the new year. It just takes a while to get used to it.

[00:00:34] I'm going to be honest. This is the first time that I've not had a problem. I have not written 2021 once yet.

[00:00:40] Oh, I've done it at least a half dozen times.

[00:00:43] 22 is, like, my favorite number. I don't know why. That's odd. It is weird. It goes all the way back to, like, grade school. Like, I've always liked 22. I've had…

[00:00:52] You must have liked writing your twos or something.

[00:00:54] Somewhat odd affiliation with the number… No, actually, I know…

[00:00:58] So I bet you really loved your 22nd birthday many, many, many years ago.

[00:01:03] I don't even remember. So, actually, I can tell you exactly why. And I've never, ever… This is weird. I've never, ever told a single person why 22 is my favorite number. And now you're getting ready to tell the world. Yeah, because it doesn't matter. I had a crush on a girl in grade school. Yeah. And in grade school, we all had numbers based on, you were numbered in school. And her number, the first year I met her and had a crush on her, was 22. 22.

[00:01:29] And that has stuck with me.

[00:01:30] Lucky number 22.

[00:01:32] I can't believe I said that. Like, I've told nobody that in my entire life. And now here you go. Why? And now everybody knows. Well, because I never really… It's not something that comes up in conversation. Like, what's your favorite number and why?

[00:01:41] Your secret's safe because, the wives don't listen to this anyway.

[00:01:45] Nobody else does either. So, we're cool. It's just us.

[00:01:49] All right. So, happy 2022.

[00:01:52] Happy 2022 with just the two of us. Okay. So, a couple reminders first before we get into what our numbers are.

[00:02:01] Yeah.

[00:02:02] Build Night is coming up in late February. Yep. Okay. So, I still haven't figured everything out. But I will. I promise. So, it's going to be a Zoom call or Hangouts or Discord or something like that.

[00:02:18] All of that, by the way, Greek to me because I'm a crusty old curmudgeon. I think I used that correctly. I was called a curmudgeon the other day. So, it stuck with me. And now I'm going to go ahead and…

[00:02:31] And own it again? Own it. That seems to be a name you're called often.

[00:02:37] Yeah. Thanks.

[00:02:39] Anyway. So, when we do this, like I said, late February, Tom and I, you and I are going to be doing or assembling our Goldberg Chipmunk Arfs. These are ones that we got when we went up to Brian's over a year ago.

[00:02:56] Yeah.

[00:02:57] And are finally getting a chance to put them together. This is going to be our first live Hangout and only for patrons only. I hate to do that to the people that want to be a part of it. But for the first one especially, I think it's best to try and keep numbers lower so I can learn what I'm doing and not disappoint a lot of people. And it's also our way to say thank you. Sorry. Apparently, my phone didn't get muted. But it's also our way to say…

[00:03:23] That was an eBay notification, by the way.

[00:03:24] Yes, it was. I wonder if I want it. But anyway, it's also our way to say thanks to our patrons. They've supported us for a long time or not a long time, depending on who you are. But no matter what, we appreciate it. Yes.

[00:03:36] Absolutely.

[00:03:36] So something else I wanted to say. So if you were a patron and are no longer a patron, which has happened to a few people, and I understand it. It doesn't matter why. Yeah, no, that's fine. Email us, and we will make you a part of this also. Absolutely. You'll be a part of it. So if you've donated to us in any way whatsoever, just reach out and say, hey, I want to be a part of this. We'll get you the link and the invite whenever I figure that out, and we will move on from there.

[00:04:04] And it will be as exciting as watching two guys assemble an ARF can possibly be.

[00:04:10] Well, I don't want to set the sights too high. I don't want to aim for the stars. That was sarcasm. I noticed, but it didn't have the tone to it. Oh, I'm sorry. It's not too much like,. Oh, really? Too enthusiastic?

[00:04:23] Too real. Too real. Yeah. And I just… We will try to make it interesting. We'll leave it at that. How about that?

[00:04:30] I don't even want to say that. I'm just going to sit there and put my playing together. You're not going to try to make it interesting? We'll have conversations.

[00:04:35] Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

[00:04:36] Whatever guys, girls, whatever you want to talk about, they can ask us questions.

[00:04:40] If they post a question, we'll answer it if we can.

[00:04:42] I don't think it's post. I think it's just talk.

[00:04:44] Oh, is it talk?

[00:04:45] It's going to be like a video chat.

[00:04:48] Well, isn't there usually like a running thing?

[00:04:50] Well, see, considering I have no clue how we're going to do it yet, I can't tell you that.

[00:04:53] Oh, true. Okay. That's fair.

[00:04:55] Okay. We'll figure it out. We, let's walk before we run. Okay. Next, please contact us.

[00:05:05] Yeah. I say it a lot, but utmost… I would say a good portion of the podcast comes from listener questions, emails, things like that, suggestions. So keep them coming, please. We love to… Actually, we like hearing from you folks, good and bad, but a lot of that stuff actually makes it into the show. So without you guys, the show would be really, really boring, like way more boring than it already is.

[00:05:33] I actually agree because we've said it before. If not for our listeners, we would be sitting here talking to ourselves, which…

[00:05:42] Nobody wants to listen to that.

[00:05:44] It's fun for us, but we don't know what everybody else wants to listen to. So if you don't let us know…

[00:05:48] That's right.

[00:05:49] …then it's on you if it's boring.

[00:05:52] Yep. Lots of ways to contact us, as always.

[00:05:55] Use the contact us form on the website, email us, phone number we gave. Those are probably the best ways. I know, like, some people have posted on, like, YouTube and other places like that. I don't necessarily see all the comments. Like, Facebook, I don't see all that either. I know you try and do Facebook more than I do. Yeah, I'm trying to get better at that. We are both bad at responding on social media stuff. Yeah. So,…

[00:06:23] Well, Crusty, you're a curmudgeon. That's me.

[00:06:25] True. I own it. And I definitely spend more time on stuff other than that. Right. So I don't… Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to say I'm a curmudgeon, but I'm going to say I don't know that stuff

[00:06:35] Very much. But if you want to get a response from us, the best way is to use the contact us form on the website.

[00:06:41] It's probably… And most responses will come on the podcast. We will try to respond to emails that we get, but bear with us if we don't get right back to you, because we are also terrible at that time-wise at time. So… Yes. Anything else you want to say before we move on?

[00:07:00] No. No, I just want to thank the folks that have already, sent in ideas and things like that, and just keep it coming.

[00:07:06] Okay.

[00:07:07] Right on.

[00:07:08] Well, thanks for listening, everybody. Oh, wait. No, not yet.

[00:07:10] No, we're not done yet. We still got to talk about this stuff here on our outline.

[00:07:14] What… So what have you done? You've got a couple of things that… You've got one thing done.

[00:07:19] Yeah. We got together tonight, and I said I haven't done anything. Well, I lied to you. I did actually manage to bolt an engine to the… Gosh. Kristen Eagle. Thank you. Kristen Eagle, that you got the electric motor off of. So I did actually bolt an OS46SF to that. Didn't do anything else. I have it bolted in place, but no throttle push rod or fuel tank or plumbing. But the plan is to…

[00:07:48] I want to fly it at least once with a nitro motor just to see the difference between electric and nitro on that airframe, see what kind of difference it makes. At least one. And then who knows? Maybe I'll fall in love with it with a nitro and just fly it all the time. Fly the wings off of it. Well, I don't want to fly the wings off of it, but what I mean.

[00:08:04] And yeah, fly it until it can't fly anymore. Anyway.

[00:08:08] Yeah.

[00:08:10] So obviously that had an electric motor on it before. Right. Which the nice thing about that is there's no holes in the cowl. I think we talked about that already. Have you cut anything for that yet? No. Okay.

[00:08:20] Nope.

[00:08:20] So you literally just put four screws in and…

[00:08:23] Well, it was a little more than just four screws. I had to put blind nuts in also on the backside of the firewall to thread the screws in too.

[00:08:31] So you just put four screws in? And then I also had to…

[00:08:33] Well, and then I also had to drill and tap the motor mount for the engine. So eight, I guess.

[00:08:39] Oh.

[00:08:39] Eight screws.

[00:08:40] Look at you go.

[00:08:41] Yeah. And that… Well, I had to do some measuring, to make sure I got the spinner… Excuse me. The spinner back plate right where I wanted it to with the cowl. True. True, yeah. So, I mean, there was, 15 minutes or so worth of…

[00:08:54] Well, at least you found time to carve that 15 minutes out to do something RC airplane related in the last two weeks.

[00:09:02] Well, and also in the last two weeks, I've discovered that my transmitter won't take a charge, but we talked about that. I'll download some new software update or something, I guess.

[00:09:11] Well, yeah. So I don't know. This is frustrating because you bought your iX-12 and then you were so excited about it, but you talked me into buying one. I didn't have to talk very hard. And now yours is not working.

[00:09:24] Well, it still works. It just won't charge. So it's going to work for a little while until it's completely dead. And then I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do.

[00:09:31] So…

[00:09:31] I think it's a software issue.

[00:09:33] Here's the thing. From what you told me, you said that the actual software, the Airware software, says that it's at 30% charge.

[00:09:43] 30-ish. Yeah.

[00:09:44] Whatever it said. But then, since this is Android-based, you said on that screen it shows it's 100% charged. Yes. I think you're fully charged, and that's why it's not charging.

[00:09:55] That was sort of what was going through my head also. So I left it on for a considerable amount of time, night before last. And the meter didn't move on the Android app. Well, so… Or on the Android screen.

[00:10:11] Yeah. So here's the thing, too. I left mine on, which I didn't realize. When do we go out to the field? It was the first of the year. Well, yeah. Or before the first of the year. It was the 31st, December. So today is the 18th of January that we're recording. Three days ago, I started working on some stuff, and I needed my transmitter. -huh. So where I'm going. Yeah. I didn't turn it off at all. And I don't know if it was fully charged.

[00:10:38] Did you put it to sleep, at least? No. So the screen, last time you handled the transmitter, the screen was on?

[00:10:43] No, I think it kind of got on its own. Oh. Okay. Like, I set it down, did some stuff, went back to it, the screen had timed out, and so I just thought it was off, because any other transmitter I've had, when the screen is off, it's off. And so I put it in the case and brought it home.

[00:11:00] Well, that's slightly concerning to me, that it would go into a sleep mode or whatever if it was transmitting when you had it on before. Like, without a warning or anything like that, or if a warning went off, maybe you didn't hear it.

[00:11:12] I mean, we were doing so much stuff in there that, or when we were at the field, we were doing so much stuff in and out. I was walking up and down, talking to you guys, that it might have given me a warning and it might have timed out afterward. I mean, I don't know how they work. I haven't had a chance to look at it. But my point is, it was put away on, because when I got it out, it was still on, and it was still like 60% on the Android screen. Okay. So, in two-ish weeks…

[00:11:40] An hour or so is not going to make a difference on the screen.

[00:11:43] Yeah, in two-ish weeks, if it's not actually transmitting, it doesn't use a lot of power. Okay.

[00:11:49] Well, I'm hopeful that I'll uninstall Airware and then reinstall it and see if there's an updated version.

[00:11:55] Well, first I'd see if there's an update before you uninstall it. Okay. Because, I mean, after I got mine, I went into the Play Store and there was an update for it and it worked fine. Other thing, though, if you do uninstall it, I would definitely try and back up stuff. Yeah, I'll have to figure out how to do that. But, yeah. Yes, you will. And when you do, let me know. Let. Because that way I don't have to look it up myself.

[00:12:17] Well, yeah, I'll probably have to do it before you will, so I'll let.

[00:12:20] I would hope so.

[00:12:22] Yeah, hopefully yours never gives you any issues.

[00:12:25] But, to be fair, I've really, really, really enjoyed the radio. I mean, I really do.

[00:12:31] I like the features of it. I like, so far, knock on wood, it's been a rock-solid connection between it and any airplane I've flown with it.

[00:12:39] Yeah, my only issue is just how long it takes to turn on.

[00:12:41] It does take a long time to boot up.

[00:12:44] Yeah, whatever.

[00:12:44] Do people still use that term? I don't know. But it takes a long time to turn on, yes.

[00:12:48] Yeah. But, okay, so when you first turn it on, I'm guessing ours is the same. But it goes into a screen, and I think it says, like, airware, spec, I don't even remember what it says on it, but it's like a bluish-gray screen. And it has, in the background, a little, like, twisty kind of design. Every time I see that, I think my screen is cracked.

[00:13:13] No, I don't think mine, I have an issue.

[00:13:15] I'll have to show you sometime. I'll have to go turn mine on and show you what it does when it boots up. But anyway, that's my only major complaint about it. Yeah. Because then I get concerned, like, how did I break it?

[00:13:23] Mm-hmm.

[00:13:24] And then I'm like, oh, I didn't break it. That's just me being me.

[00:13:28] Yeah, so those are the two things I've managed to get accomplished, airplane-related, so far this year. Potentially break my radio, and I bolted an engine to an airplane.

[00:13:39] There's better days coming, right? I hope so. There's going to have to be. Golly, I hope so. I did take some time, though. You did. You've got a lot done. I don't. No, don't say that, because that's not true.

[00:13:48] Well, compared to what I did, that's a lot.

[00:13:50] Like, you didn't do anything, so anything is a lot.

[00:13:53] Exactly.

[00:13:54] But anyway, so I had to have my transmitter. Once again, over a year ago, when we bought our chipmunks, the kind of part of the deal that he gave us was, if you guys buy these, here's four other small, I mean, let's be honest, crappy airplanes, just small, tiny, electric little things that he didn't want, nobody else wanted, they needed a lot of work, that he just threw in with the deal. Honestly, I threw two of them away, because they were…

[00:14:33] They were just going to be too much work.

[00:14:34] Well, they were that quality. I mean, like, one of them, I think we talked about before, but one of them looked like it was something that you would have bought at, like, Harbor Freight, 15 years ago.

[00:14:45] Yeah.

[00:14:45] I mean, it was just not…

[00:14:47] Yeah, brush motor, yeah, the whole, yeah.

[00:14:49] And then Nikad batteries.

[00:14:50] Foam, I think it was plastic, even. I think it was hard plastic.

[00:14:53] Yeah, it was heavy for what it was, had a little foam wing that just was crinkled already.

[00:14:57] Probably would not fly very well.

[00:14:59] No. If at all. Needed way too much work for what it was in order to get it back up. So anyway, that one got pitched. There was another one that was torn up really bad, foam, not worth trying to fix the wings, not worth any of that stuff. So those two got away. Other one was a House of Balsa… Cherokee. Cherokee. Haven't done much with that. I guess I'm in the same place you are. I did bolt a motor to the front of it. See? But it's electric, so it's a lot easier.

[00:15:29] Literally just four screws is all I did. But so this other one that we got, I have no clue what it is. Do you have any idea as you're belching?

[00:15:37] It's a very old trainer. 15, like a 0.15 Nitro Motors sized trainer with no ailerons and a foam wing. And I honestly don't know what model it is.

[00:15:50] Okay. It's kind of neat because it's like a hybrid. It's got the foam wing with, as you said, no ailerons. But it also has the foam elevator, the foam rear stab. I guess the elevator is not foam.

[00:16:03] Which is airfoiled, which is unique.

[00:16:04] Yeah.

[00:16:05] For something this size.

[00:16:06] And it's held on with rubber bands.

[00:16:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:09] The wing and the rear stab.

[00:16:11] Yeah.

[00:16:12] I just think it's kind of weird.

[00:16:14] Yeah, that's interesting. Kind of weird.

[00:16:15] Yeah, I've never… The body is made of balsa.

[00:16:18] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:18] Everything else is foam, except for the elevator and the rudder, are a weird, like, almost looks like hardboard. what, I mean… Like an MDF?

[00:16:29] Like, really thin, though.

[00:16:31] Not even MDF. No, not even MDF. Like, like, hardboard. I mean, like, if you've ever… Gosh.

[00:16:36] Like melamine or whatever it's called?

[00:16:38] No.

[00:16:38] Like wallboard? No.

[00:16:41] Like, like, hardboard. I mean, that's actually what it's called. I don't know how to describe it. Rather than it's like cardboard that's really, really, really tightly packed with a resin in it.

[00:16:50] Oh, okay.

[00:16:51] So it's strong.

[00:16:53] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:53] But it's usually pretty heavy for what you're doing, but the whole elevator and rudder is made of that. And it's just a weirdly put-together plane that I'd never seen before. Mm-hmm. And I kind of was taken by it. Like, I liked it. It was kind of neat looking. Our original plan, because it had the Enya 15 on it, was to fly it with that. Because that was put on it.

[00:17:17] Mm-hmm.

[00:17:17] You didn't seem to want to do anything with it.

[00:17:20] I have way too many irons in the fire to mess with, yeah.

[00:17:24] And so I said something to you about, do you care if I just make it electric? And you're like, ah. No. Have at it. Yeah. Give me the motor.

[00:17:31] It probably has a better chance of being flown with an electric motor than it does with a nitro at this point.

[00:17:36] Well, absolutely at this point, because it's electric now. Well, but I mean, yeah.

[00:17:39] But what I'm saying. Like, it had a much better shot of flying, being converted than…

[00:17:45] Well, it's going to be easier, I think.

[00:17:46] Yeah.

[00:17:46] I mean, you don't have to worry about all the stuff you have to worry about with nitro.

[00:17:50] Well, the small nitro motors are kind of a pain.

[00:17:52] Oh, are they?

[00:17:53] Yeah. The smaller they are, the more, the difficult they can be to tune. Yeah, exactly.

[00:17:57] I still want to hear that one run, though. Oh, we'll run it eventually. Yeah. That should be easy to run if it's not on an airplane anyway. It's just four bolts. Four bolts. Yep.

[00:18:06] Or two if I put it on my stand. I can get away with two on my stand.

[00:18:11] Well, we should do that then, because that is a… That doesn't provide a lot of power. No. I think it's got like an eight-inch prop or something. Yeah, it's very small. But anyway, so I finally got that down and got everything converted over to put an electric motor on it, speed controller, battery box. I mean, there was nothing in there beforehand.

[00:18:30] So it was weird, because it almost looks like it was built many, many moons ago, and then the wing was put on with two rubber bands, and then it's like it hung somewhere or just was stashed somewhere, because you can clearly see the markings from the rubber bands, but there was nothing on the inside to show it was ever put together. There was a motor bolted on the front, so it looked finished, but everything inside that needed to be there to make it finished was gone.

[00:18:57] Gone.

[00:18:57] The control horns, wow. I mean, like, I've heard of dried out plastic that if you just touch, like, crumbles, that's exactly what happened to those. So we need to make a trip, by the way, up to Brian's. I know, yeah. I have a list of things I need to get, of which smaller control horns are on my list.

[00:19:19] Oh, I have some if you need some.

[00:19:21] Well, cool, but too late. I mean, like, when it was going on, I didn't want to go anywhere, and I just wanted to be able to get done with it. So my original plan, I retraced the control horns that were on there, so I had the right sizing and, everything, offsets and stuff. And I was going to cut it on the laser cutter out of Falcata.

[00:19:43] So I had it all designed for that, and as I was going, like, I had a small piece in my hand, and I was walking outside, and I was just kind of playing with it. I was like, man, this is a little flimsy. Like, I don't know if I feel comfortable with that, because Falcata, it's strong in one direction.

[00:20:00] Yeah.

[00:20:00] But in the other direction, it's very weak. So I was kind of trying to think, what can I do? Maybe if I do that, and then just saturate it with CA. Cut it on a bias, or whatever. Well, yeah, but it's still weak on that angle. Like, I guess if I cut it in an angle, 45, but you're still going to have…

[00:20:19] Yeah.

[00:20:19] So as I was out there kind of thumbing through stuff to thinking about it, I found a small piece of plexiglass that I had out there that's eighth-inch thick plexiglass. And I was like, let's try this. we'll try and cut it out of the plexiglass. So I went and redesigned the holes and stuff for the right size, or for that thickness. Cut it on there, and it actually worked out pretty good, I think, for what it is. I don't…

[00:20:45] I definitely would not use it for anything bigger, or something that I cared about. Like, is that… what I mean? Like, this is a low-risk airplane. Like, if something happens to it, I am okay.

[00:20:57] Okay.

[00:20:58] It'll be fun to say, I tried it, we flew it. If something happens, then electronic come out, and I move on. So anyway, I cut that out of the plexiglass, and it seems to work good. My only problem, though, is it's a little…

[00:21:12] Yeah, it seems… It seems plenty stiff. Oh, it's… Yeah.

[00:21:14] …beyond plenty stiff, but it's a little thick. Like, I wish I'd have had, like, some 080, or maybe even, like, some 060 thick plexiglass, but…

[00:21:24] But it's a little airplane, and yeah, I mean, it'll be… I think it'll be fine.

[00:21:27] Yeah, you make do with what you have. What I don't like, though, is that it seems a little thick for the clevices. So, like, they're all the way through, but they're not clicked on very well. Like, I didn't get that nice, solid, like, click, and then… Yeah. But it still held on with the…

[00:21:43] Piece of fuel tubing.

[00:21:44] Fuel tubing, which, by the way, I gave you all my fuel tubing when I got out of Nitro. Yeah, so…

[00:21:48] So you need some fuel tubing now, too.

[00:21:50] Well, luckily, I had already cut a few pieces, and it was in my box, but I think I have, like, three left now is all. So, yeah, if you think about it, just snip off a few pieces. But, yeah, so that… I mean, that thing is pretty much all ready to go. How much… Did you want to talk about how much you had to add to the nose? Oh, I forgot about that. So, yeah, I don't… Okay, when I put, like, the servos and stuff inside, I didn't know exactly where stuff was going to be.

[00:22:17] I figured with the heavy battery up front, it was okay to get the servos a little farther back, so it's a little behind the center of gravity. But after I got all that done and tried to do the CG, I ended up having to add three and a half ounces of weight to the front of that airplane.

[00:22:36] To an airplane that weighs, like, eight ounces.

[00:22:38] No. Actually, I need to weigh that. I don't know what that actually weighs. That's a good question.

[00:22:42] It's not much more than a pound, but it's definitely a pound, at least.

[00:22:46] Oh, it's… I bet it's two pounds, at least.

[00:22:50] Okay.

[00:22:51] Now I want to go find out. Have you picked it up, though?

[00:22:54] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:54] Oh.

[00:22:56] Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'm bad at guessing weights. But, so that was that. Yeah. It took three and a half ounces of weight in the front just to get it close. And it could probably use a little bit more, but I figured with that lifting tail… Yeah, it'll be fine. It should be… Yep….pretty good. And for as simple as that plane is… Right….there's not going to be much that I think is going to go wrong.

[00:23:18] Another thing I did that I have not done before, I didn't have enough long push rods to get to the back.

[00:23:27] Mm-hmm.

[00:23:28] So, I think I did it right, but I used a dowel rod. Yeah. Which seems to be… Oh, yeah.

[00:23:35] That's going old school.

[00:23:38] I know.

[00:23:39] Yeah, we used to make push rods all the time out of dowel.

[00:23:42] What I did…

[00:23:44] So, tell me how you did it.

[00:23:46] Okay.

[00:23:48] What you did.

[00:23:48] I feel as though I'm getting judged here, but we'll see.

[00:23:50] No, no.

[00:23:51] Okay.

[00:23:51] I just was curious how you would…

[00:23:53] So, remember when we were at the Hobby Shop in Decatur, I bought… Well, we both bought a bunch of the shorter push rods. They had like the six packs for a dollar.

[00:24:03] Mm-hmm.

[00:24:04] Threaded on one end. Right. And they're, what, 10 inches maybe? Yeah, 10 inches. Yeah, 10 inches.

[00:24:09] Yeah, somewhere in that.

[00:24:10] So, my original plan was to take and solder those together and make one long push rod. Still not long enough. Like when I held them even like end to end. And I didn't want to go through and do a bunch of soldering and all that stuff. So, I found, I think, 332nd dowel rod. It's fairly small.

[00:24:30] Mm-hmm. It's a small airplane, so…

[00:24:33] Yeah, that's what I figured. So, I drilled a hole straight through it on both ends.

[00:24:38] Mm-hmm.

[00:24:38] And then 90-degreed the end of the push rod.

[00:24:42] Okay.

[00:24:42] And then I used the Dremel to kind of make a little…

[00:24:45] Yeah.

[00:24:46] Okay. So, that's… A notch. A notch to run. And I think I went back about three inches or so…

[00:24:51] Yep.

[00:24:51] From each end.

[00:24:52] Yep.

[00:24:52] That way I had plenty of room to run the CA glue. Okay. I used thin CA.

[00:24:57] Mm-hmm.

[00:24:57] And I covered it with thick CA.

[00:24:58] Okay.

[00:24:59] And then I covered that whole thing with shrink tubing. Perfect. And shrunk it.

[00:25:03] That's exactly… Yeah, that's exactly how I would have done it.

[00:25:06] Oh, cool. Yeah. Because, see, I've seen a lot of people do it where they, like, wrap it with string.

[00:25:10] You can do it that way, too. But with shrink tubing and a little airplane like that, oh, yeah, that's perfect. That's exactly how I would have done it.

[00:25:17] Oh, good.

[00:25:18] Perfect.

[00:25:18] Like, that was my thought. Like, this is a small airplane. Yeah.

[00:25:21] That doesn't mean it's right, okay, just because that's the way I would have done it. But you and I would have…

[00:25:26] Yeah.

[00:25:27] …thinking along the same lines.

[00:25:28] Well, that was one of them. Like, the other one, I actually had a long enough push rod, which I think came from you from something you left over here. And I was like, eh, it's here. I'm going to use it. So, that's why I had to do one of them.

[00:25:41] Yeah.

[00:25:41] And then I used threaded on both ends because I figured that's easier to adjust.

[00:25:46] Yep.

[00:25:46] And I wasn't sure exactly how close I was going to get alignment-wise when I was doing that because that's kind of hard to figure out, too. So, I figured if I have more play on both ends, then I can make it fit better.

[00:25:57] When you get it perfect, make sure you lock one end of that so it doesn't spin. what I'm saying? No. What do you mean? So, like, if it's threaded on both ends and you have clevises on both ends, vibration will tend to make that thing want to tighten or loosen, depending on how you're looking at it. And eventually, if it's loosening, it'll come all the way out of one end while it's threading into the other. Does that make sense?

[00:26:20] Yeah. I never thought of that.

[00:26:21] So, if you put a little lock nut on it or CA or whatever, just make sure one end of it at least is locked so it won't rotate.

[00:26:27] Okay. That's a good idea because I never thought of that. Yeah.

[00:26:31] Don't ask me how I know that.

[00:26:33] Although it's electric, so it's not going to have a lot of engine vibrations for sure.

[00:26:36] That's absolutely true, but I would do it anyway.

[00:26:38] Okay. That will be next time, I think. That and when I was looking at it with you, I realized I left one screw out of the top of the servo.

[00:26:45] Yeah.

[00:26:46] I got to find it. I don't know where it went, but I'll get that done. And then after I do those two things, that's completely ready to fly. And it should be fun.

[00:26:53] I think it will be. I think it'll fly okay. Based upon the thickness of the wing and the shape of the wing and how much dihedral is in it, I think it'll fly good.

[00:27:02] Yeah. Me too. That's going to be fun. I'm actually looking forward to a simple, hopefully, a simple little flyer.

[00:27:09] So, let's talk about what the show is about. This show, what we wanted to talk about.

[00:27:16] This episode is about COVID brain. Don't shake your head. It's okay. COVID brain.

[00:27:20] No, I'm shaking my head at me.

[00:27:21] I forgot about that. Can you taste yet?

[00:27:23] Some things. I can taste some things and other things. And it depends on the day. Like, yesterday was a good day. I tasted a lot of my food yesterday. Today, not so much.

[00:27:33] Really? Yeah, it's weird. That sucks.

[00:27:36] Yeah. And I still can't smell. Of course, I didn't have a really good sense of smell to begin with. But, yeah, I have a hard time smelling anything.

[00:27:44] Lori's completely fine, though.

[00:27:46] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:47] Well, at least one of you is. That's good.

[00:27:49] Yeah. Yeah. Well, she got hers back, like, right away. But, anyway, we talked about that already.

[00:27:53] We did. Okay. So, main topic.

[00:27:56] Yeah. What's your number? So, as a reminder, our wives, were on the last episode with us. And Lori posed the question. She wanted to know what our number was.

[00:28:07] Which I did not know.

[00:28:08] I didn't know mine either. I had a pretty fair guess, though. And once I actually counted, I was pretty close.

[00:28:14] I could not venture to guess because it's so.

[00:28:19] They're so easy to forget about. I hate to say it that way.

[00:28:22] Oh, my gosh. I can't believe you said that.

[00:28:23] But it's some, like, even tonight when I was coming up with my list, you were telling me airplanes I had that I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot to add that one.

[00:28:30] Yeah, that's pretty pathetic, actually. If I can remember something that you.

[00:28:33] Yeah, you have too many when your friend tells you, hey, did you count this one?

[00:28:38] Well, here's how I had to do it. I had to go take pictures of everywhere I have airplanes and then sit down on the computer.

[00:28:47] That's cheating. I'm just saying.

[00:28:49] Well, if that is cheating, then my list would be about a third of what it actually ended up being because I just, I, yeah, I don't remember.

[00:28:58] I guarantee you the list that I came up with tonight, I could go home after our show, after we're done recording tonight, and I could probably add, I bet, I bet I've had five more that I've forgotten about.

[00:29:10] Well, see, that's why you should have done it before you got out here.

[00:29:13] I know. In the last two weeks. Well, yeah.

[00:29:16] Two weeks that we knew this was going to be. Yeah, all right, all right. So anyway. That's okay. Call it in. Nice. No, so, okay. I think, how many kits do you have?

[00:29:30] So, according to my spreadsheet, I have.

[00:29:34] I laugh, but I have the same thing.

[00:29:36] I have 10 kits that are still in the box. And now those are kits, kits, not ARFs. Those are like wood kits.

[00:29:45] Oh, so you, I combine mine, kits and ARFs, because I don't have very many at all. Oh. I have eight.

[00:29:53] Well, that's only two fewer than me.

[00:29:55] No, that's both.

[00:29:56] Oh.

[00:29:57] Yeah. That's kits and ARFs.

[00:29:58] Okay, so I have 10.

[00:29:59] How many ARFs do you have?

[00:30:00] Five.

[00:30:01] So you have 15 kits and ARFs. Yeah, come on. So you're double me. And I actually, I don't want to say cheated. Okay. How many of these do you maybe not plan on building?

[00:30:16] Well, none of them. I plan on building and flying all of them.

[00:30:19] Oh, really?

[00:30:20] Eventually.

[00:30:21] Okay.

[00:30:21] Like, so in the back of my head, and yeah, it's probably faulty logic, but in the back of my head, I think that someday I'm probably going to get to retire and not have to work. And I don't want to be bored, like in retirement. I don't want to be that guy that retires and then like next week dies of boredom, right?

[00:30:40] When do you want to die?

[00:30:41] And if you ask Lori, she will tell you that I hate being bored and I have to always be doing something. So kind of in the back of my head, I've always, whenever I buy a kit, it's always with the anticipation or the expectation that, hey, when I retire, if I don't have this built by the time I retire, this would be a great thing for me to do in retirement. Now, I'm going to have to do some flying to make room for these things that I'm going to build when I retire.

[00:31:08] But yeah, that's, I plan on building and or flying everything that's on my list.

[00:31:13] What do you mean I'm going to have to do some flying? Does that mean I'm going to have to do some crashing? Exactly. Okay.

[00:31:18] Yeah, I'm going to have to make room.

[00:31:19] Okay. So lawn dart on accident or purpose?

[00:31:23] Well, definitely not. I'm not going to crash on purpose, but I would imagine if I pick up the flying, the percentage of crashing, if it stays the same, then if I increase flying, it's going to increase crashing also, right? You would think?

[00:31:36] I mean, yes. If one goes up, then the other would also go up.

[00:31:41] Yeah.

[00:31:42] See, that's where I'm a little bit different. Like, I can think of three that are kind of like, okay, so one of the, I bought one of the willy-nillies kit. Yeah. I don't know if you've seen that one or not. You showed it to me.

[00:31:54] Yeah, we couldn't figure out something.

[00:31:56] Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't know if I'll ever finish that. Like, I wanted to see how it went together. I wanted to see, what an airplane that size was like. But that's such a small airplane. Like, it's smaller than, I shouldn't say it's smaller than I like. Excuse me. It's smaller than I'm used to. Maybe I'll build it, and it's probably, what, an afternoon worth of work, honestly. Maybe I'll get bored one day. Yeah, to frame it up. I shouldn't take that long.

[00:32:22] And see what I think. I don't know what electronics it takes, because that's so much smaller than what I'm used to also, which I think is something that kind of pushes it away for me. But that's one I don't necessarily, like, know I'm going to build. Like, it's just one I have. Interesting. Maybe yes, maybe no.

[00:32:41] See, I don't. Well, so maybe that's a difference also. Some of the stuff that you want to experiment with are relatively inexpensive. Like, that Willie Nellie's kit was, what, 50 bucks, 60 bucks?

[00:32:55] No, I think I paid 25 for it.

[00:32:56] Yeah.

[00:32:57] Maybe 30. I don't remember.

[00:32:58] But the airplanes that I tend to buy and kits are considerably more expensive than that.

[00:33:06] Yeah, I see that.

[00:33:06] So I'm not going to spend it just because I'm curious. Does that make sense?

[00:33:13] Well, okay, yeah.

[00:33:14] So if I buy a kit, then I'm committed to building it.

[00:33:19] To building it someday. Right. Or getting rid of it and giving it to me like you did the stick. Well, you really wanted one. I do.

[00:33:28] And that's why.

[00:33:30] Yeah. Well, I appreciate that. What else do you have that I really want? Well, you have the list now, so. Oh, I do. That's giving me the power. But the other thing I have, and that's why it's almost cheating calling these kits, but when I first started flying, probably about a year after it, I don't remember where it was or who the guy was. There was a guy that was making profile foamy airplanes out of the harder foam. I don't remember what it was called right offhand.

[00:34:00] Depron? No.

[00:34:01] No, I think Depron's the floppier ones. This isn't that. It's almost like the insides of the Dollar Tree foam board if you pull it off, but it's stronger. Maybe not stronger. It's stiffer, but brittler. Does that make sense? So this is a foamy airplane. I actually have two of them that you're supposed to obviously put together. It's profile foamy, and then it has all the little braces that are supposed to go on.

[00:34:29] Kind of like the old Great Plains Flat Outs.

[00:34:31] Not a clue.

[00:34:32] So the old Great Plains Flat Outs were foam board like what you're describing, and then they had carbon fiber rods that was all bracing on the outside, and they tied into a little molded tube-looking things that were glued to the…

[00:34:45] Yeah, kind of something like that.

[00:34:47] Yeah, and everything just kind of hung on the outside of the airframe.

[00:34:50] Yeah, like no instructions, no nothing whatsoever.

[00:34:53] I think that's how Great Plains had them.

[00:34:55] Yeah, this one doesn't even have pictures. It just came in a box with all the parts and pieces. Yeah, pretty much. So at that time, I didn't know what I was doing for putting stuff together like that, so it just sat in the box and sat in my hobby room to where it, to this day, still sits there. So honestly, I don't know if I'll ever get to the point of putting that together or not. Maybe. Maybe I will. But that's not one high on my list that I really want to do.

[00:35:22] Although, oddly enough, the more I talk about it, the more I kind of want to get it out and do it. Weird how that works. It is actually weird how that works.

[00:35:29] But no, I think you can still count that, though. I mean, it's a radio-controlled airplane that you build, right?

[00:35:37] Okay.

[00:35:38] Sure. So I mean, yeah, you should still count it. It'll be counted as a kit then because everything that I need to build. You have to put it together. Yeah. Okay. You count that one.

[00:35:47] Well, then, so my number is still eight for that whole thing.

[00:35:50] Eight for kits and ARFs. Okay. So I'm at 15. All right, so.

[00:35:54] So what ones, by the way? So what, so I've got the stick that you gave me that I've started working on, the top that I just bought. Yep. Because I still want to get into that.

[00:36:04] It's cool. You should build that next, unless we're working on the trimester.

[00:36:08] It's all about wood. I know. Anyway.

[00:36:11] But I'm just saying.

[00:36:11] The GWSA 10, I still would like to put together one day. You've done that before, so I might like to do that with you.

[00:36:18] What's that?

[00:36:18] The GWSA 10.

[00:36:20] I still have mine.

[00:36:21] I know. Oh. But I'm saying, you've put one together before, so I wouldn't mind doing that with you. Oh, okay. Yeah. Just to kind of see.

[00:36:27] Yeah.

[00:36:28] Easy peasy. It's foam. It's just weird.

[00:36:30] There's a few modifications that, that will make.

[00:36:34] Well, there you go. To make it better. And see that stuff that I wouldn't know to do, just doing it myself. Yep. That is one I would like to do, by the way, soon.

[00:36:41] Yeah, it's a fun airplane to fly to.

[00:36:43] By soon, I mean within the next, like, five years. Right.

[00:36:47] Yes.

[00:36:48] The Space Walker that I just got, and that is one that we're going to be doing, hopefully, a YouTube series on putting an ARF together.

[00:36:54] Yep.

[00:36:54] And then the Chipmunk, which we'll be going together here in the next month and a half.

[00:37:00] Towards the end of February.

[00:37:01] So that's all I got for.

[00:37:01] So that's it.

[00:37:02] That's all I got for ARFs and kits.

[00:37:03] So quickly, I'll run down my kit list. -huh. Top Flight P47, Top Flight Contender. Actually, so that's, my numbers are off. So I actually have 16 kits in ARFs because I have two of the Top Flight Contenders. I have the old original Redbox version, and I have the new Gold Series. Top Flight Gold Series. Yeah. The new, improved version.

[00:37:29] What's the difference?

[00:37:31] The construction. Oh. The old version was, like, no kidding, sticks that you carve and, that sort of thing. Not a lot of die-cutting, things like that. The new version was tab lock and die-cut, a few slash sides and all that sort of stuff. It was just an improved.

[00:37:48] Big difference.

[00:37:48] Yeah. It's a big difference, but it's the dimensions and the appearance, exactly the same. J&J Enterprises, which is a small company back in the 80s, they made pattern plane kits, and I have one called the Bootlegger, which is a really cool-looking airplane. I'm going to build that.

[00:38:06] Soon within the next five years?

[00:38:08] Well, I don't know if I'd say that, but a great plane's fun one, which what that is.

[00:38:12] I do.

[00:38:12] I have a Goldberg Cub that I really want to build. Actually, I want to build that soon. I have a Long John Laser Kit from Eddie at Laser Works. Thank you. I bought that quite some time ago and was supposed to be a fun afternoon frame. Yeah, and it's still in the shrink wrap. I have a Top Flight Elder biplane, which you like the Elder, and this is the biplane version

[00:38:33] Of that. I don't like biplanes.

[00:38:34] Top Flight Hot Canary, still in the box. A Hobbyco Viper 500, which is like a Quickie 500 pylon racing type V-tail, kind of a cool-looking.

[00:38:44] Yeah.

[00:38:45] I've had one before. They're pretty fast. And then I have a Midwest Super Stearman biplane kit. And those are my kits. And then for RFs, yeah, I have the Hangar 9 Showtime 50, which I got up at Brian's last time we were up there. I have a Great Plains Escapade MX. This is the mid-wing 40-size hot rod.

[00:39:05] Purple and white?

[00:39:06] Is that the?

[00:39:07] Yeah.

[00:39:08] GWS-810, well, most of it anyway, because I had to cabbage the nose off of that one to repair my other one some time ago after flying it into a tree. Yeah, we talked about that upside down. I have the Chip Hyde Double Vision, which I also got from Brian up there, and then the Goldberg Mini Chipmunk that we're going to be putting together late February.

[00:39:26] So that's going to be nice to actually have those off our list of things to do.

[00:39:30] Well, that's two out of my, yeah.

[00:39:32] I have it on things to done.

[00:39:34] Exactly.

[00:39:35] So next, yeah, this is the one I like. This is the one I don't like because it makes me see all the stuff I have to do. Needs work.

[00:39:44] Yeah. So I call this tab under my spreadsheet, Planes Under Construction. Various Stages of Put-Togetherness.

[00:39:53] How does that work?

[00:39:56] So these are airplanes that I've started the assembly on or that airplanes that have had assembly started, not necessarily by me, but various stages of completion.

[00:40:05] Let me ask you this then. Maybe I have miscategorized this one. So under, because mine needs work. Okay. So that's what I have this called.

[00:40:15] Yeah.

[00:40:17] The black and yellow Yak 54, the 50cc one, what would you put that under?

[00:40:24] I would put that under construction.

[00:40:27] Needs work.

[00:40:28] Okay.

[00:40:28] Yep. Well, then I was right on that one.

[00:40:30] Yeah.

[00:40:30] Because that's just, I mean.

[00:40:32] So what's your number? Planes Under Construction or Needs Work?

[00:40:35] I'm at eight.

[00:40:36] Oh, you got me beat there. I have five.

[00:40:38] Really?

[00:40:39] Yeah.

[00:40:39] What do you have on yours?

[00:40:40] So I have the Sopwith Camel, which is, I think, a lifetime.

[00:40:43] I wondered if you remember that one. I was hoping you forgot it.

[00:40:46] It's a lifetime project.

[00:40:47] Yeah.

[00:40:47] So it'll be done, hopefully, before I'm dead. I have the Midwest Aerosport 60, which is basically a stick with a symmetrical.

[00:40:55] Is that the one Jim started? Yes. Okay.

[00:40:58] Yep.

[00:40:58] That's in good, I mean, that's…

[00:41:00] That's in very good. And, like, I could complete it probably in a weekend.

[00:41:03] Yeah.

[00:41:03] Covering, and, I mean, because they're so simple, and I love sticks, as you all know. I have a Lanier Jester, which is from the 70s, and it was a blow-molded plastic fuselage with a foam wing with a tough hide, or whatever it was called, the covering. And it's really almost… I mean, I could probably fly it, honestly, the way it is, but there's some things I want to do to it. Like, I want to paint it, because it's just all white.

[00:41:29] Yeah. And that's just molded in white. And that will get lost very easily. Are you going to, like, I mean, what? When?

[00:41:35] Well, eventually. I have a Goldberg SU-26MX aerobatic airplane that I got from someone else.

[00:41:44] I don't know that one.

[00:41:45] The assembly or construction has been started. The wing is nearly finished.

[00:41:49] No fuselage, though.

[00:41:50] It's got a fuselage. It's framed up, but it's just, it doesn't have all the curved bits. I don't remember seeing one of those on there. I don't remember seeing one of those on there. Curved bits.

[00:41:56] Oh, maybe that's why I don't remember seeing it, then, because, like, I'm thinking of the curved nose, but I don't remember seeing it.

[00:42:01] Oh, no.

[00:42:01] Okay.

[00:42:02] I had the fiberglass Specialties cowl for it. It's in the big white square box. I showed you the cowl.

[00:42:09] Oh, God, my memory's shocked.

[00:42:10] And then I have the Great Plains Kristen Eagle on here, because it's not quite ready to fly yet. So, like, I still have, yeah, to install the fuel tank and throttle, servo, and push rod, all that kind of stuff. So, five. Yep, that's my five.

[00:42:23] Well, I've got a lot more than you. Okay. So, I've got, like I said, that the Yak, the 50cc Yak frame. I don't know what you would call that. Airframe. Yeah, from up at Brian's. Still needs quite a bit of work. If it ever gets assembled. That's one that I don't know if I will ever do. And really, that's because I have another that I just got off of you, 50cc aircraft. Yak. So, I don't need to do that one also.

[00:42:54] But I guess, like, maybe I'll keep that as a backup airframe in case I crash that one. Because I don't know if I would want to go through, I mean, that's a lot of money to put out for a new motor, for all new electronics, for everything, for another one, just to have two 50cc of the same airplane.

[00:43:13] Which is why you ended up with it, because I already had another 50cc airplane that I

[00:43:17] Really enjoyed flying. And they weren't both Yaks.

[00:43:19] Well, that's true.

[00:43:20] So, I mean, that's, I mean, for me, it would be both Yaks, just different colors.

[00:43:24] But I like Yaks. So, I guess maybe it doesn't matter. I don't know. You do like Yaks.

[00:43:29] Another one I have, it's actually kind of cool, but it's not going to be mine. My brother-in-law, out at his old farmhouse after his dad died, we found an old, and I don't, your planes better than I do. I don't even know if you knew what it was. It's an old, like, 60-size trainer. Had a nitro motor on it. It had everything with it that I don't trust anymore, because it sat in an old farmhouse that was not heated or cooled for probably the last 10 years.

[00:43:56] Windows got broken out. I mean, it was just, it was pretty much sitting outside. And that's one that they're going to be turning the house down and all that stuff. So, he got it out of there, and he gave it to me. My plan, which I shouldn't say this in case I don't do it, but my plan, honestly, is he's, so he's deployed this year, and he'll be back at the end of this year. I would like to have that finished. Oh, yeah.

[00:44:20] And just be able to hand it to him and say, here you go. Here's an airplane for you. This is your airplane. This is the one, it's ready to go now. I've got an old radio I can give him.

[00:44:29] I think it's a Hobbyco AvaStar, I think.

[00:44:31] No, I don't.

[00:44:33] No? Okay.

[00:44:35] I don't know. It's that style. It has the plasticky wingtips. Yeah, that stars have that. Oh, did they? That are like, once again, shot. Flimsy. They will probably just come off, and I will probably just fill it with balsa and make a fillet or something like that.

[00:44:49] Yeah.

[00:44:51] Because there's no need to keep them. But it has a motor on it. It has a nitro motor already. It has everything.

[00:44:56] We can get that all cleaned up and going.

[00:44:57] It still spins. I'm sure it's not even rebuilt.

[00:45:01] We'll see.

[00:45:02] But I'll recover it. I'll do some patches and stuff. I don't want to make it too pretty, because he doesn't know how to fly. So I don't want to spend a bunch of time on it.

[00:45:10] Well, we should recover it, at least, instead of putting it back, because that covering is going to be brittle.

[00:45:15] Oh, I guess so.

[00:45:16] Well, that's easy enough to recover. Yeah. That's a big job.

[00:45:19] Yeah, it's a piece of cake.

[00:45:20] So yeah, that'll be a fun project. That's one of my to-do lists this year. The Nobler that we just picked up, that's one that I want to convert to electric.

[00:45:29] Yep.

[00:45:30] So that's, yeah, that's going to take some thought. For the battery, yeah. Yeah, just because of the setup on everything. And I learned, we'll talk later, like in another episode. But I learned with my Cavalier that it's hard, it's, it's, it can be difficult to get it to balance without making major modifications. So I might have to do a lot to this one in order to get it to balance correctly.

[00:46:00] Hopefully not, but.

[00:46:01] Yeah, we'll see. It's just a weird, it's a weird setup that just doesn't lend itself well to a battery up in the nose.

[00:46:07] Well, we can always put a nitro on our back there.

[00:46:09] Well, then you can have the airplane if you want it.

[00:46:11] No, you bought it, it's yours.

[00:46:13] Well, then we're not doing that.

[00:46:14] Okay.

[00:46:16] The big GAC, the big GAC still needs recovered and pretty much put back together. That's not difficult, but.

[00:46:23] That's going to be a big project because that's a big airplane.

[00:46:25] Big airplane, but not, I mean, when you do covering on something big, that's easier than something small.

[00:46:33] So you're looking at me like you don't agree. No, I'm just, I'm processing what you just said.

[00:46:37] Like for me, it's easy to cover a big surface than it is to cover these minute little tiny area. And there is no small area on that airplane.

[00:46:48] Micro airplanes, I agree. Yeah. But like a 40 size trainer, super easy to cover.

[00:46:52] Yeah, I agree. But I'm, I'm kind of thinking on some of the other small ones, like.

[00:46:57] Okay.

[00:46:57] Yeah, I agree. Yep.

[00:46:59] I would agree.

[00:46:59] Fillets and things like that are not fun on small ones.

[00:47:02] Yep. You're right.

[00:47:02] So I think that will be a fairly.

[00:47:06] Straightforward.

[00:47:07] Good word. Yeah. Laborious. But easy and straightforward.

[00:47:11] Straightforward. Yep. Should not offer any complication.

[00:47:14] No.

[00:47:15] Hopefully. Should not.

[00:47:16] There's always going to be something, I'm sure. But anyway, we have the, the Red Bull or the Red Bull Pilotus PC6.

[00:47:24] Which we're going to do a repair video on.

[00:47:26] Yes. And that should, I think I have pretty much everything ready to do that. Oh, okay. So that will soon go off of my needs work list. Yeah. Am I ready to go? Ready to fly.

[00:47:36] Yeah.

[00:47:37] I've got a UMX MIG that I bought many, many, many, many, many, many, many years ago. So, it needs, like, I bought it used and somehow, like, I've flown it a few times. It has AS3X on and stuff and it's a good, good flying airplane, but somehow the tail got messed up. It needs a tail replaced.

[00:47:59] Oh.

[00:48:00] And that's going to be hard to find. I looked online and so apparently they made two of those. One is an old red one where everything is red. Okay. And that's the one I have.

[00:48:11] Okay.

[00:48:11] And then they made a newer updated version. Was it red and white? Red and silver.

[00:48:17] Because I had one of those at one time. I can't remember it being silver, though. I think mine was all red.

[00:48:23] Was it all red? Maybe this one came from you then. I don't remember.

[00:48:26] Who knows?

[00:48:28] I would have gotten this one the same time I got the, the UMX Beast.

[00:48:36] Yeah. Those were both mine.

[00:48:37] Okay. So this is your old one. That's kind of funny.

[00:48:40] But it was, the tail wasn't messed up when you got it.

[00:48:43] No, it wasn't. That's what I'm saying. Somehow it got messed up here.

[00:48:45] That's unfortunate.

[00:48:46] Yeah. Don't look at me like that. I didn't bring your airplane. No, I'm just trying to figure out what. Like, I mean, I've flown it and it's flown fine. Oh, okay. But something has happened.

[00:48:53] Okay.

[00:48:54] Since then, where it needs to be replaced. Okay, or since. But anyway, so I was looking at, or trying to look up for repair parts. Can't get them for the all red one, but you can't get them for the silver and red one. However, the tail looks identical on the two of them. The tail is all red on both of them. Perfect. But I don't know if it'll bolt on right. Or glue on right, I guess, because it's all foam. I don't know how they have it all together.

[00:49:15] I wouldn't think it'd be that difficult to modify it if you need to.

[00:49:19] It's like 22 bucks. I might just go ahead and buy it and see.

[00:49:21] It's kind of pricey for foam.

[00:49:22] That's kind of what I thought, but yeah, I get it.

[00:49:24] So it's on your.

[00:49:25] It's on my.

[00:49:26] Yeah, needs work.

[00:49:27] Yeah. I would like to do it, though. Other one on my needs work is that House of Balsa Cherokee.

[00:49:34] Mm-hmm.

[00:49:36] Yeah, I mean, that's going to be another fun one that I think I will enjoy doing.

[00:49:40] That'll be a fun electric airplane, I think.

[00:49:42] Perfect size. It's about the same as this yellow monstrosity thing that I just finished. Whatever. I don't know what to call it.

[00:49:48] I don't know what to call it. Call it a cadet. It looks kind of like. I know, but it kind of looks like one.

[00:49:53] I think something that they're not.

[00:49:55] Okay.

[00:49:55] Anyway. And then my Shrike that we both got out. Oh, you got to add that? Yeah. Okay. So my Shrike that came out of the dumpster is another one I need to work on. Yep. There you go. Your list is expanded. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:50:14] Okay. So, yeah. So you have some that need work and I have less that need work.

[00:50:21] Well, now, this. Okay. So the Red Bull Pilotist, the PC6, that's kind of on you since you're going to be the one doing the fixing on it. Yeah. Don't look at me like that. -huh. I can. You're trying to get out of that. I can see. I'm not trying to get out of it.

[00:50:35] I will do the repair on that.

[00:50:37] I mean, you're trying.

[00:50:37] Because we're going to record it for the YouTube. No, I'm not trying to get.

[00:50:41] But I'm. For the YouTube.

[00:50:43] The YouTube channel. Sorry. So then that should be on my list, not yours. I mean, yes, you own it, but it's on my list of. So how do we count that?

[00:50:53] Well, this is airplanes that we own. Like each list is our airplane.

[00:50:57] Well, then it seems like the owner should be responsible for the list and everything on

[00:51:03] It. Well, then I'll. I guess I'll do it. And that's fine. I mean, we'll see.

[00:51:07] Okay.

[00:51:08] You're going to fix it.

[00:51:09] Okay. We will. I will.

[00:51:11] All right. What do we. What do we own that's ready to go? Here's my favorite list. This is the one that I was actually surprised about.

[00:51:17] Yes. And luckily, this list is my longest list.

[00:51:21] Mine too.

[00:51:22] So that's good.

[00:51:24] Mm-hmm.

[00:51:24] Right. You want to go over yours first or mine?

[00:51:27] You can go over yours. Okay. So this list is. Sorry. I know I said you can go over yours. Here's what I'm impressed by though.

[00:51:33] Okay.

[00:51:34] You did all this from memory.

[00:51:36] Yeah.

[00:51:37] And. I didn't cheat. your airplanes.

[00:51:40] Well.

[00:51:40] I mean, like.

[00:51:41] Obviously, I don't know them all because I look at all the chicken scratches on the list. That I've.

[00:51:45] Well, you don't remember them all. But what they are. Oh, yeah. Like when you remember one. I don't know. I mean, that's my problem. Like I. I don't have. I don't remember what some of them are called even.

[00:51:56] Oh, I follow what you're saying. Yeah.

[00:51:58] Like even having them in front of me. I'm like, what is that? I don't remember.. So, my list is much more descriptive in some ways.

[00:52:06] Yellow and black plane hanging on the wall. And Tom calls it a yak. Yeah. No, I know what you mean.

[00:52:13] No, I do have one on here that's just red plane.

[00:52:18] Oh, is that the electric one?

[00:52:19] Yeah.

[00:52:20] Yeah. That's a Cessna 195, right?

[00:52:24] No, it's not. What are you talking about? I'm talking about the one that's out there. It's the red clear covering that I want to recover with an open tail.

[00:52:35] It's an elder looking thing, but it's not an elder.

[00:52:38] But it's not an elder. Yeah. That's why I don't like the. Right. I guess that gives you the idea of what it is, but it's not. So, anyway, your list. Sorry. I didn't mean to tromple all over you.

[00:52:46] Yeah. So, this is my favorite tab on the list. This is the planes that are built and ready to go.

[00:52:52] Just ready to go. Yeah. Throw a battery in. Maybe a little tuning.

[00:52:56] Yeah. Throw a battery in. Yeah. So, yeah, I'll start. So, I call these my foam air force, right? Because I don't have a lot of foam airplanes anymore. So, I have the MiG-21, a T-38, an A-10, and then I have the E-flight, I think it is. The SU, not SU, but the 27Q, the Stryker. It's called a Stryker. F-27Q, I think is what they're called.

[00:53:20] Oh, I know what you're talking about.

[00:53:22] The one that needs the. The servo.

[00:53:23] The one that needed the servo or needs, I don't know if you fixed it. But, yeah. I have not fixed that yet. Well, shouldn't that be on your needs work then?

[00:53:29] Well, I mean, it'll fly.

[00:53:31] Okay. That's true.

[00:53:33] It's all, it's just a servo swap out, right?

[00:53:34] So, that's easy peasy. Sure.

[00:53:38] Next would be my Hangar 9 P-40, ready to go. House of Balsa P-51, my little combat size P-51, the silver and yellow thing.

[00:53:47] Is that the half A one?

[00:53:48] Yeah.

[00:53:49] Okay.

[00:53:51] Believe it or not, it's ready to go. I just have never.

[00:53:53] Well, you didn't put the graphics on, but other than that, it's done, right? Right. Like, it's just missing a couple decals?

[00:53:59] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:59] Yeah.

[00:53:59] Okay. Hangar 9 Super Stick, which is my go-to. I fly that one the most. Great Plains Contender. Mm-hmm. The Pica Rapier, which is the one I just got, and we flew December 31st, Seagull Yak-54, and, of course, our Duelists, Hangar 9 T-34, which, honestly, I should probably put that over to needs work, because it really needs recovered. I mean, it's ready to go.

[00:54:26] Well, if it's flyable, then I don't think that's under needs work.

[00:54:28] I'm afraid if I flew it, the covering would come off, like, during flight.

[00:54:33] Here's the question. Would, you said you're afraid, but would you fly it like that now? Would you take that out tomorrow? No. No? So then it needs work. It's not. Okay. So I want to move that over.

[00:54:46] So anyway, yeah, Hangar 9 T-34. I'm going to ride a little arrow, move it over there.

[00:54:50] Oh, I remember that one, the Mentor.

[00:54:53] Yeah.

[00:54:53] Yeah, okay.

[00:54:54] Yeah. Scorpio Fiesta 45, which is that cool little 40-size pattern plane that I put the 70s.

[00:55:01] Oh, yeah. That you hate. I don't hate it. I just wouldn't want it.

[00:55:05] I have my Sandpiper, which I should probably move that over to my foam Air Force. Great Plains Super Sky Bolt that I just got from you. I have a Red Wing S-Bach, which is my 50cc-size airplane. And then Great Plains Reactor Biplane. Bringing that total, if I count the one I don't move over, is 17 planes ready to fly. And I believe that's the number I quoted.

[00:55:28] I think that's what you said on the other one. You were guessing on it, and you were actually very good.

[00:55:33] Well, 16, really, because I got to move the T-34 over. But yeah.

[00:55:37] But still, I mean, that's a good list.

[00:55:41] I'm happy with that. I'm glad it's not more than that.

[00:55:44] And the cool thing about some of your foam ones, though, they were kind of made before, I don't want to say before foam was cool, because I guess foam was a thing back then.

[00:55:55] Yeah.

[00:55:55] But they're hand carved out of, is it called fan fold foam? Mm-hmm. Whatever you call it. Exactly. Insulation. Like pink or blue.

[00:56:05] Yep. Dave Taylor, my good buddy, he built these for me, which hopefully, if he's listening, hopefully we'll have him on the show.

[00:56:12] Yeah, I think that would be good. Soon, hopefully. Just to kind of have him talk about how he does the test.

[00:56:16] Yeah, he built those for me out of foam insulation fan fold. And man, they look fantastic.

[00:56:22] And they fly pretty good, too.

[00:56:23] The T-38, I mean, it's painted up in Thunderbird, like I get excited to think about it. It's painted up in the Thunderbird colors, and it flies awesome.

[00:56:31] What about the one I crashed trying to launch it for you?

[00:56:34] That was the T-38. It's ready to go again. It's fixed, and if you never.

[00:56:37] I felt so bad about that. Ah, whatever. Yeah, I did. But still.

[00:56:41] Oh, I forgot one.

[00:56:42] Now what?

[00:56:43] The F-4.

[00:56:44] Oh, come on. Really?

[00:56:46] Yeah, that one's ready to go, too.

[00:56:47] So I'm going to write that down there.

[00:56:50] That's part of the foam air force, also. Another one that Dave built for me. I can't believe I forgot that one, because that's the best flying one of the bunch.

[00:56:56] And that's the best-looking one, too, I think. Really?

[00:56:58] Well, he does a fantastic job.

[00:57:01] I've always liked the Phantom, for some reason. I don't know why, but I've always liked that airplane.

[00:57:07] I like the wingtips. they're bent up, and then they have the fork, almost.

[00:57:13] Yeah.

[00:57:13] Yeah, it's just a mean, awesome-looking airplane, I think.

[00:57:16] Okay, ready for my list?

[00:57:17] Yes.

[00:57:17] Okay, so for my ready-to-go airplanes that I can pretty much just go throw a battery in and go.

[00:57:25] Right, because you're all electric now.

[00:57:27] Well… Except for the gassers. There's one on here that's nitro.

[00:57:31] Oh, right.

[00:57:32] Okay. Eventually, maybe… I'm still counting it, but yeah. Yeah, so the eFlight Advance 25E, that was the one I got from Jerry, a guy that was a member of our field many, many years ago.

[00:57:45] Yeah.

[00:57:46] I've got my Twin Star.

[00:57:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:57:48] This one's kind of cheating calling it mine, but it's in my garage. So, the Telemaster.

[00:57:54] Well, that one lives here, so I think it's fair to call it. I'll put it on your list. Okay.

[00:57:59] So, there we go. That's why it's on here. Yeah. I agree. That Red Bull, the Zizlin or Zin, whatever that was.

[00:58:07] Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce that.

[00:58:08] Yeah, I don't either. But yeah, we did the repair video.

[00:58:12] It's ready to go.

[00:58:12] The Duelist, of course. This is the one I was talking about before, the Red Plane.

[00:58:19] Yeah.

[00:58:20] I don't know.

[00:58:21] Yeah.

[00:58:22] It's a cool-looking plane. It looks like an Elder.

[00:58:24] But it's not an Elder.

[00:58:25] I don't know how to. Yeah. Cool plane.

[00:58:27] But it has an exposed framework tail end and all that.

[00:58:30] Yeah, which I would like.

[00:58:30] It's really neat. Yeah.

[00:58:31] The fun one, which is one you built.

[00:58:34] Many, many years ago.

[00:58:36] -huh. And you have a kit still. I do. So, you should make another one that matched.

[00:58:40] Mm-hmm.

[00:58:41] No. Did you not like that one then?

[00:58:42] No, I like it. They fly awesome. I'm just, that's not high on my priorities.

[00:58:46] Okay. Maybe one you want to get rid of?

[00:58:48] No.

[00:58:49] No. Okay. It's okay to get rid of some if it's not high on your priorities.

[00:58:53] I know.

[00:58:54] Let's see. The Air Tractor.

[00:58:55] Mm-hmm.

[00:58:56] And then my transparent yellow electric airplane.

[00:59:00] I know which one you're talking about.

[00:59:01] The e-flight one. Like, I don't know what, it's an e-flight airplane. Yeah. But I cannot remember. Like, I found it online. Not, well, it's been a little while ago.

[00:59:08] It's been a while. Yeah.

[00:59:08] I remember. I found it. And, like, for some reason, I thought I kept, like, a screenshot of it or something. And with the name, not a clue.

[00:59:16] Well, now you have a spreadsheet. You can put it on your spreadsheet.

[00:59:19] If I ever find it.

[00:59:19] Well.

[00:59:20] So, here's the thing, all of our friendly, wonderful listeners. I said the name of that somewhere on this podcast. Somewhere between episode five-ish.

[00:59:31] Yeah.

[00:59:32] And now.

[00:59:33] Yeah.

[00:59:33] If you guys remember that, please send me an email. If not, listen to everything and let me know what you find out.

[00:59:41] Homework for our listeners.

[00:59:42] Well, like, I really, I really would like to know, because I just, that's bugging me. And I, I've tried the Google search. I've tried the image search. I've tried all that again.

[00:59:49] Did you try Google Lens?

[00:59:50] Yeah. That's the image search. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's what I meant by image search. Okay. And it just doesn't bring it up right. So, I can't find anything. Let's see. I've got the Cardin Yak that came from you. The Mini Stick. The ugly foam Edge 40.

[01:00:06] Yeah. The airplane everybody hates.

[01:00:08] But it flies so much. I know.

[01:00:11] That's so weird. Anyway.

[01:00:13] Yeah.

[01:00:13] The Edge 540 Mini.

[01:00:15] Mm-hmm.

[01:00:15] The Super Sportster, which I need to fly that one again soon. That's a really good flying airplane. I love that airplane. Yep. The Shoestring.

[01:00:22] Mm-hmm.

[01:00:23] Carbon Z Yak 54. Mm-hmm. Sandpiper. The, what?

[01:00:29] I was, you said Sandpiper, and I was like, did I? Yeah. I got it. It's on my list.

[01:00:33] The blue and yellow hybrid. This is another one that I don't know what to call. The one that we were just talking about. Oh, yeah. In this episode. Mm-hmm. so that, we'll have to find a name somewhere, but whatever. And then my Cavalier, of course. Mm-hmm. The Micro Yak 54. Mm-hmm. That one I got not that long ago. I've got my Piper PA 20. I've got, and this is, well, okay, the, eFlight Piper L4. I will say that now because I continually forget about that one.

[01:01:02] Poor airplane just gets forgotten. I forgot to put that on my list until I almost hit my head on it, doing something down there. But then the last ones are kind of cheating, but they're not because they are airplanes. Yeah. I've got the two Mini Vapors.

[01:01:16] Yep.

[01:01:17] And then the Micro SU-26.

[01:01:19] Well, those are radio-controlled airplanes that are ready to go, so you count them.

[01:01:23] But they're tiny. I mean, like.

[01:01:24] It doesn't, I don't think that matters. I think that's an airplane that you count as a flyable airplane.

[01:01:29] That's why I almost didn't count the Sandpiper either because that's just, I mean, you're right. It's an airplane ready to go. You put a battery in, I can go fly it.

[01:01:37] Yes.

[01:01:37] But, I don't know. It's quality over quantity to me, I guess. I don't know, but, so my number sits at 25.

[01:01:47] 25 ready to go.

[01:01:48] More than I thought.

[01:01:49] Yeah, that's a lot.

[01:01:50] Like, when we were sitting there, like, I was thinking I might be able to get to 17, your number, counting everything I had. Not counting everything that was ready to go. So, I just, yeah. I was surprised by where we ended up on that one.

[01:02:06] So, the total, like, what's your number? Like, what is your total number of airplanes?

[01:02:13] I didn't do the math.

[01:02:14] Oh.

[01:02:14] What did I say? How was that?

[01:02:16] I don't know. You have the spreadsheet.

[01:02:17] Why don't I?

[01:02:18] You have your tab. You didn't print me off a copy of your tab. Like, you did not want me to see it or something?

[01:02:24] 41.

[01:02:25] You got me beat by one.

[01:02:26] Did I do that right?

[01:02:27] I don't know.

[01:02:28] 25? Yeah, I think that's right.

[01:02:29] Yeah. Because we, yeah. I'm at 40. So, yeah, you've got me beat by one.

[01:02:35] But, I'm not, it's not a race. Well, it's not a competition, I guess.

[01:02:39] No, you say that because you're in the lead. Now, if it was the other way around.

[01:02:43] No, do you want me to take off the ones I really don't know if I would count, like the foamy kids?

[01:02:46] No, you have to count those.

[01:02:47] Okay. Well, then, I'm sure you're going to find two or three more at home tonight because you're going to forget about it.

[01:02:53] I'll be honest. When we're done recording, I'm moving on to the next episode. I won't even think about it when I go, I promise.

[01:02:59] Okay. Well, so that's our numbers.

[01:03:01] There you go.

[01:03:02] Let us know your numbers.

[01:03:03] That's our number.

[01:03:04] And before we get out of it completely, I still want to talk about some stuff.

[01:03:08] Okay.

[01:03:09] But, seriously, let us know how many airplanes you guys have and what you have. If you have any that we have.

[01:03:15] Yeah, let us know.

[01:03:16] Let us know. That'd be interesting. So, one of the coolest things that has come out of this podcast, for me, at least, I think, one of our listeners reached out, a friend of the show, who has the Pilotus PC6, the Red Bull one, and he is missing a couple parts and was asking, like, I guess he's posted on a few websites and stuff and not really gotten information he needed. And so, he was able to give me information on how the front of that airplane goes together.

[01:03:52] Because, like I said, when I got it, it was crashed. So, it's hard to piece together a crashed airplane when you've never seen it before. Right. And you're not sure what pieces go where. So, I got nice pictures from him on how that went together. And then I was able to, because of the podcast and having that connection, which I thought was neat, send him measurements and everything off of the gear block that he needed. The way the gear mounts on that airplane is really weird.

[01:04:20] And there's a special aluminum plate, angle bracket, but bigger, is all I can say, that mounts on the belly of it. And the gear actually goes into it because the gear moved quite a bit. So, it's a weird setup on the landing gear. I remember that. Yep. And he was not able to get anybody that actually, or find anybody that had that same, exact same airplane to get a measurement. So, I was able to send him that. So, I thought that was kind of neat. That is neat. Yeah.

[01:04:51] So, I completely lost my train. I thought I'm wrong.

[01:04:53] So, you said there was more stuff you wanted to talk about.

[01:04:56] Oh. So.

[01:04:59] Yeah. So, now we've got the number.

[01:05:00] Mm-hmm.

[01:05:01] Mm-hmm. How about, are there any that you want to build soon? Like, off of your kit list, for example.

[01:05:11] Oh. Yeah. Do you want me to tell you what they are? Yeah. Well, the stick.

[01:05:16] That's the point of asking you the question.

[01:05:18] Okay. Well, I can pretty much just read the whole kit list. Okay.

[01:05:21] So, how about for brevity, how about just, which one would you want to do first out of your list?

[01:05:29] Well, I've already started on the stick. So, that's probably going to be first. Sure. But what one do I want to do first at this point? Yeah. The top.

[01:05:37] Okay. Yeah.

[01:05:38] I mean, I want to see that one. I think that's going to be neat.

[01:05:40] Yeah. For me, I really have the itch to build a cub. Like, I don't have a flyable cub.

[01:05:46] I don't.

[01:05:46] Shh. Yes, you do.

[01:05:48] Yep.

[01:05:49] Which is odd, because everybody should have a cub, I feel like. So, I want to build that Goldberg cub that I have, and then a trimotor.

[01:05:56] I had a cub. So, the first kit, actually, I don't think I can count that, because it's not any good anymore. No. Actually, that would still be, I have another kit I forgot about. The very first airplane kit I bought was a cub. Mm-hmm. And that's still up in the rafters. I don't remember, I don't remember who made it, but I started building the wing. It was a one-piece wing.

[01:06:20] I think it's a SIG kit, isn't it?

[01:06:21] I don't remember. I'd have to look.

[01:06:23] But anyway, so I started building the wing. It's like a 78-inch wingspan, I think.

[01:06:28] Mm-hmm.

[01:06:29] Single-piece wing.

[01:06:30] Mm-hmm.

[01:06:31] And then I bought the, I think it was the Hangar 9 cub that had an 80-inch wingspan that was finished.

[01:06:37] Mm-hmm.

[01:06:37] So, I was like, oh, why would I build one? I might have taken some of the wood out of there, but I think that kit is mostly still ready to go.

[01:06:44] So, there you go.

[01:06:45] So, there's another kit. Yeah. Ah, that's fun.

[01:06:47] Do you have any of your kit list that you will never build?

[01:06:53] Well, I think I kind of talked about those before, maybe.

[01:06:56] Yeah.

[01:06:57] But the more I talk about them, the more I want to do them. So, it's funny how.

[01:07:01] I can honestly say there are zero on my list that I don't want to build someday. So, yeah.

[01:07:06] Yeah. Yeah. Depending on my mood, how's that? I mean, I think that's the easiest, honest thing to say.

[01:07:14] Yeah.

[01:07:16] So.

[01:07:17] So, go ahead.

[01:07:18] No, that's fine.

[01:07:19] Do you have an airplane that means, like, more to you than any others out of our lists?

[01:07:25] You're getting so deep with your questions.

[01:07:27] Well, I mean, I have airplanes that, I mean, they all mean something to me, or otherwise I wouldn't have them, right?

[01:07:34] No, I disagree with that.

[01:07:36] Me, personally. Like, I would not own an airplane that didn't mean something to me.

[01:07:41] Really?

[01:07:41] Mm-hmm.

[01:07:42] Why? Can't you just have anything? Why have it?

[01:07:45] If it doesn't mean anything to me, then why have it?

[01:07:47] Well, because it's another airplane to just go and have fun with.

[01:07:50] Yeah.

[01:07:50] I guess, what do you mean?

[01:07:51] That's what it means to me.

[01:07:52] Okay, but there's no, like, sentimental story behind it.

[01:07:55] Oh, no, not behind every single one.

[01:07:56] Okay, that's what I thought you were going for. Like, it means something to you.

[01:07:59] But, I mean, that's sort of the point of the question. Like, do you have an airplane on any of the tabs of your list, unfinished, finished, whatever, that means more to you than any others, that has more sentimental value to you than any others? You're not big into sentiment. I get that.

[01:08:14] Well, there has to, it depends on what we're going for. I don't mean to, I don't mean to be argumentative. I know I come off that way sometimes. If it, if I had to pick, I can, I think I can get down to two. the Big Yak is important and sentimental to me because it's my first big airplane and it's cool and I really, really like it.

[01:08:39] If I have to drill down into more, like, personal, like, emotional level, which is so hard to do, the do list, obviously, because that's one that you had reasons behind wanting to build. And once again, because of the podcast and our conversations, we built together and I thought that was a lot of fun.

[01:09:02] We built together separately.

[01:09:04] We separately. Yeah.

[01:09:06] So for me, yeah, I have.

[01:09:08] Yours was faster.

[01:09:09] I have air, not by much, but still, I have airplanes that, that I have sentiment, like I get attached to things. You can ask Lori and it doesn't make any sense or whatever, but I get attached to things for whatever reason. And there's a couple on my list that I have strong attachment to that I will, it's an airplane, like for instance, the Kristen Eagle. I'll, I'll never get rid of that. I just can't get rid of that.

[01:09:32] I can't bring myself to get that because of the circumstances, on how I got it. And long story short, a club member, knew I liked it. He was an older gentleman. I had flown it for him many times. I shouldn't say many, a few times. And he knew that I liked it and he gave it to me. And then shortly after, sometime after he, he passed away. So I can't get rid of that airplane. That's, that's mine.

[01:09:58] The airplanes that Dave built for me, same thing. I, he built those for me, what I mean? And they're awesome. So I can't get rid of them. so I, I do get, I do get sentimental on some of them, but there's some airplanes that, I keep them around because they mean fun to me, if that makes sense.

[01:10:17] Yeah.

[01:10:17] Like I don't want, I'm not going to hang on to an airplane that I don't enjoy. Cause that means it doesn't have meaning to me.

[01:10:23] Yeah. I see how you're, how you're going about that one now. Like there's not sentimental value for all of the airplanes I have, but yes, I enjoy them. So I guess that means something in that regard.

[01:10:35] Yeah. So, and of course the dualist, for the same, same sort of reasons, cause we built those together and that means something to me and we enjoyed that process together.

[01:10:45] So I agree.

[01:10:47] I'll never get rid of that airplane either.

[01:10:49] Hopefully.

[01:10:50] Well, I will never gift it or give it away. I gotcha. Hopefully the only way I end up not owning that is if it goes down in some spectacular crash or something, but I will, that airplane will be mine until it is not flyable anymore.

[01:11:03] And then you have to build another one.

[01:11:04] And then I'll probably try to build another one.

[01:11:06] Yeah.

[01:11:07] Cause they're awesome.

[01:11:09] Well, and it's, we have the files now, so it's an easy build. I mean, as long as I don't lose all my, my stuff. So have you ever thrown an airplane away?

[01:11:21] Yes.

[01:11:22] Okay.

[01:11:23] Yep. Me too. Yep. Quite, quite a, probably more than I would be willing to admit.

[01:11:29] Probably are you, do you regret any of them that I've thrown away? Yeah. No. Do you think any of the ones you have thrown away could have gone to another home and been redone or were they literally all so far gone that it just needs to be pitched? what I mean? Like, yes, no, I know what you're saying.

[01:11:50] One that it comes to mind, it could probably have been salvaged by somebody who cared more about it than I did.

[01:12:00] Okay.

[01:12:00] But the rest of them, no, I think they had no redeeming qualities.

[01:12:04] Yeah. I would, I would agree the same.

[01:12:07] Either they were too far gone or, or they were crashed beyond what I was willing to spend on them to bring them back or ugly or whatever. Didn't fly well. I've thrown a number of them away that just flat out didn't fly well.

[01:12:21] Like ones you built or? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can understand that then.

[01:12:25] Yeah. So, but yeah, I've, I have taken electronics angrily out of an airplane before and jumped up and down on it and threw it in the trash.

[01:12:34] Really? Yeah. I wish I could have seen that.

[01:12:35] In my younger days. Yeah. I've done that. Not proud of it. Like I said, but.

[01:12:40] Yeah. It takes a lot to get me to throw them away. I mean, it's gotta be a bad airplane. Airplane.

[01:12:46] And I have no qualms about throwing anything foam away. Not, not to make our, not to make our, our foam, friends, our foam preference or people who have foam. I don't want to anger anybody, but I'm not a big fan of foam.

[01:13:04] So I really, I was not aware. but yeah, I would agree with you like that and the old plastic ones too. Like they just don't do much for me. And that is mostly what I have thrown away. And by thrown away, I mean like literally thrown into a garbage can or if it's balsa stuff, just burnt because it gets to the point where they're not worth anything.

[01:13:26] Yep.

[01:13:26] Okay. Do you have anything else you want to talk about or?

[01:13:29] No, that, that pretty much covers it. That's, that's our numbers. And, now you guys all know our number.

[01:13:38] Well surmised. At length too. So, all right. So thank you. That's all I got. Thank you everybody for listening until next time. I'm Ron. I'm Tom. Have a wonderful night. Good night guys. Or day or whatever. Goodbye. Goodbye.

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